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@Alec
After I broke up with my abusive exAren't you 16? Isn't that too young to be engaged/married?
An ex can be a boyfriend. It doesn't necessarily mean husband.
I don't know why people are flaming you instead of simply answering the question. I think they must've forgot you were autistic or something. I guess it had a part to play when you didn't understand how to communicate that properly. If it is an iffy topic say something nice before you ask questions. I think it is a good rule.
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@DebateArt.com
Can you increase the debate comment character limit from 2,000 to 5,000 or whatever you are able to do?
Thanks in advance
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@Pinkfreud08
I think you are supposed to add it in the comment section but there is no official rule so you won't get banned. Just do what Ragnar does in his votes. Simply go to his profile, debates, votes, click on whichever and read his comments referring to the post. If you are having problems adding what I think is more than 2k characters then I'll say something to DA and you can too to increase the character limit.
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@Greyparrot
Grammar nazi before and a non-sequitur comment now. Remember this is about whether or not Trump is stupid not whether or not professors were presidents.The country already had professors as presidents. They do a terrible job because all that time in the Ivory Tower destroys their spine.
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@Greyparrot
Didn't even attempt to engage with the core argument, be a grammar nazi. I'll wait for why Trump wasn't able to wear glasses, use contact lenses, commit to laser eye surgery or move the teleprompter forward and also see how this is not a sign of stupidity.
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@Greyparrot
Maybe he should buy glasses or buy contact lenses or use a laser eye surgery or just move it forward.Maybe his eyes aren't good enough for teleprompters.
I don't think being able to read a teleprompter is necessary for running a country.
If he barely can see across and doesn't decide to fix it, it shows a lack of intelligence. Maybe do the things I said above. He has no monetary reason not to do any of those.
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@Trent0405
Never said they had to beWell notes aren't meant to be grammatically correct
and he didn't right the same thing four times, it appears that he repeated himself once with the phrase, "I want nothing." I have had situations where I repeat myself while writing, it doesn't indicate stupidity at all.
Lets quote what it says
"I want nothing
I want nothing
I want no Quid Pro Quo
Tell Zellinsky do the right thing
This is the final word from the pres of the U.S"
Sure not four times but to need to write things that is the literal base level response is really something. To not even remember a very popular subject does go into his stupidity. Stupid is a lack of intelligence. He is not intelligence in needing to jot down a simple response and a couple key words.
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@Trent0405
If he needs to write essentially the same thing more than 4 times then he is stupid. I don't know the point of this. Was he going to forget what he said first but then remember what he said later on in his notes? No because all of them are essentially the same.How is utilizing notes stupid? I agree that this isn't "4D chess", but this appears to be an odd call out.
If this isn't stupidity then you have such a low bar for it.
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@Lunatic
Also I don't know TheRealNihilist well but i know i've seen him post a bit and know his absence effects the activity around the forums a bit. Max commonly temp banned people but I don't often recall that lengthy of bans unless it was a very serious offense or if it was a repeat offence.
Banned for I am guessing more so "a very serious offense". I guess it had a bit of both but I guess something repeating would require a warning which I didn't get.
"his absence effects the activity around the forums a bit"
Thank you for noticing.
If you have more questions feel free to ask. I'll answer them, don't really think anything is stopping me.
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@HistoryBuff
If you are deporting them back to the country they came from when you are done with them, then they weren't an immigrant, they were a temp.
You just moved the goalposts instead of making your point about exploitation you have changed it to well they weren't permanent residents. Are you aware of this?
By actual immigration i mean people moving to america with the intention of remaining there. The guest workers are being sent back, IE they aren't real immigrants, they are just guests.
Guess 6.6% of the people who have had permanent residence are not actual immigrants. I'll wait for you to deport those Americans/immigrants back to wherever they came from.
those are the same thing. Once you fix the immigration system, you no longer need a "guest worker" program.
Abolishing a system which brought in immigrants is decreasing the amount of immigrants America receives. I didn't hear of a re-appeal or an improvement so lets say 6.6% was annually. Meaning you are pretty much advocating for a system that is brings in less immigrants without instituting an alternative. No 16 years doesn't count if he does get elected and if he is able to pass it in his first year. I am ready for you excuses
Old people will, yeah. as you go lower than 65 that ratio shifts to bernie.
Data.
I know what an implication is. The problem is that he did not imply that. You are choosing to infer it based on your own biased viewpoint. You want to see him as a flawed candidate so you choose to see a statement about the guest worker program as evidence of his opinion on immigration.
No you don't and your failure to know is actually making my point a lot more difficult to present. Let me put it in another I says guns can kill you and nothing else. The implication would be we should take-away guns because they can kill. Do you disagree?
He said a specific policy hurts workers and drives down wages.
You didn't deny it would work for immigration in general did you?
Here is a quote:
Do you see how this can apply to immigration as well?Theoretically it could
So is it my "biased" viewpoint or are you actually running out of arguments?
I also like how you didn't critique my position on what was said instead you decide to ad hom me. You went one step further and psycho-analyzed me. I'll wait for an argument or you know you can ad-hom me and psycho-analyze. If it wasn't clear I want you tell me what I am missing from my comparison and how it is not heavily implied that immigration are bad because they depress American wages.
Previous response you refuse to respond too:
"I can't believe you don't know what an implication is.
Okay the occasion is that immigrants depress American wages which seems to suggest that immigration is bad. This is a clear link.
Another example:
Dumbass says Spider-man 2 is bad because Spider man is in it. The obvious take-away would be Spider-man is in 1 and 3 therefore they all must be bad as well.
This is exactly what Bernie did.
Bernie says workers programs import immigrants that depress American wages. The obvious take-away from this is that Immigrants are not only attained through worker programs so they all must depress wages."
This is a pretty good example of how centrists defame progressives. Bernie criticized a specific policy because it takes advantage of workers. You take that sentence out of context to defame him. This is no different that trying to say that Tusli is a russian operative or one of the countless slanders against yang. You are reaching for anything you can find no matter how thin it is.
Again an attack on my character. You defame me instead acknowledging what Bernie says heavily implies immigration is bad. Here is another analogy I hope you actually critique instead of attacking my character and I will be quoting the very thing I said again even if you decide to question my character instead of making an argument. If I make a case in court that this guy is not innocent and here is the evidence without a good defense. Is it implied that he would go to jail for this?
My response I will be quoting until you stop defaming my character:
"Bernie says workers programs import immigrants that depress American wages. The obvious take-away from this is that Immigrants are not only attained through worker programs so they all must depress wages."
He never said he was against immigration!
It is heavily implied and by your standard he is an idiot and a bigot. I still don't think you know what implication means so I am going to keep asking you until you decide to give an argument so I understand what you are so hung about not attack my character.
You are choosing to infer what you want to infer.
infer: deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.
So let me use deductive reasoning on top of analogies and implications.
P1: Bernie said immigrants depress American wages specifically about worker programs.
P2: This also applies to immigration.
Conclusion: This is at the least Bernie giving an argument against immigration or heavily implying he is against immigration.
Oh I'll wait for the character assassination.
Immigration isn't the cause of low wages.
So Bernie is a liar?
Points you did not refute that I have no mentioned before but I will mention here
And once everything is exploitative, then it is meaningless.
Not the case. We call everything matter. Is that meaningless? No. We call everyone humans. Is that meaningless? No. I gave you a definition and you come back to me with that essentially applies to everything therefore meaningless. Do you have an actual argument against the usage or are you finally going to stop misrepresenting a definition?
no, he said he is against that particular bill because of the guest worker program. Please stop repeating that lie.
Nick Fuentes? You know this is was directed about Nick Fuentes right not Bernie Sanders.
Give me a week to respond. I got banned.
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@bmdrocks21
It is an assumption I accepted for this conversation. Personally from what I found wages barely drop and the positive outweigh the negatives.Are you against some immigration and worker programs to an extent because of said depression of wages?
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@HistoryBuff
That is not immigration. That is exploitation.
Didn't state how this isn't immigration. Immigration can be exploitation so you are going by a definition that excludes exploitation.
Immigration: is the international movement of people to a destination country of which they are not natives or where they do not possess citizenship in order to settle or reside there, especially as permanent residents or naturalized citizens, or to take up employment as a migrant worker or temporarily as a foreign worker.
As you can see no exclusion of exploitation is given.
Actual immigration is not the reason wages are low. Wages are low because the economic system we live in has been designed by oligarchs who like not paying high wages. Scapegoating immigrants won't help anyone. Reforming the system, like sanders intends to, will.
What so illegal immigration doesn't count? Please tell me what this "actual" immigration is and if you say well worker programs then you are contradicting the very first statement I quoted from you. Choose your words wisely like how you didn't here.
What video?
"That clip was just him discussing a bill he opposed. No one asked him about what his plan was." Are you implying here that he is for creating an alternative or wants to abolish it?
And once everything is exploitative, then it is meaningless.
Not the case. We call everything matter. Is that meaningless? No. We call everyone humans. Is that meaningless? No. I gave you a definition and you come back to me with that essentially applies to everything therefore meaningless. Do you have an actual argument against the usage or are you finally going to stop misrepresenting a definition?
no, he said he is against that particular bill because of the guest worker program. Please stop repeating that lie.
Nick Fuentes? You know this is was directed about Nick Fuentes right not Bernie Sanders.
but one of the biggest is voting for someone who will make their lives better.
Doesn't disagree with me. People love nostalgia which is why people would vote for Biden instead of Bernie.
He didn't imply it either. He was specifically talking about the guest worker program. You are trying to imply that is what he meant, when he didn't say that.
I can't believe you don't know what an implication is.
Okay the occasion is that immigrants depress American wages which seems to suggest that immigration is bad. This is a clear link.
Another example:
Dumbass says Spider-man 2 is bad because Spider man is in it. The obvious take-away would be Spider-man is in 1 and 3 therefore they all must be bad as well.
This is exactly what Bernie did.
Bernie says workers programs import immigrants that depress American wages. The obvious take-away from this is that Immigrants are not only attained through worker programs so they all must depress wages.
I'm not certain I am understanding your point. If you mean the idea that there should be no immigration, that is an utterly stupid idea. America cannot survive without immigration. Only idiots or bigots would advocate that.
Just read what I said just above this.
If Bernie cares about Americans and wants what is best for them then Bernie is an idiot and bigot for being against immigration. America can survive without immigration but will it thrive without immigration? Doubtful. I am not accepting this to be true for the sake of argument like what I did with immigrants depressing wages.
I never implied this was 15 years ago and therefore wasn't important.
Do you still stand by this statement after I taught you what an implication is?
He has never, to my knowledge, said that he is willing to lower wages.
So he is against immigration?
I didn't say Bernie will put in laws to lower the minimum wage or something, I said by accepting what Bernie Sanders says his policies being pro-immigration will go against the very argument he gave in a 2007 clip that heavily implies he is against immigration or people who would be listening are not in the wrong to say immigration is bad by what Bernie said. This means he has changed his mind or you are going to say all the policy proposals are lies.
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@Greyparrot
What are these beliefs?nuclear family beliefs
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@HistoryBuff
I found your response. Didn't realize you responded.
The argument would have some validity, but is over simplified. There are many other aspects to it. Blaming immigration is mostly a scapegoat.
I am saying if you cared about American workers like Bernie Sanders admits would that be a good case against immigration? Don't scapegoat by giving other policies only saying yes or no to this.
He never says he is against immigration.
This has got to be a joke. Have you heard of an implication or how arguments can work for other positions?
If most of them are being forced back to their home country then they weren't immigrants. They were temps being used in lieu of paying workers more.
How about the 6.6% it helped why not improve instead of abolishing it?
He said he wants to remove it. He also has plans for immigration reform. That clip was just him discussing a bill he opposed. No one asked him about what his plan was. Just because a short clip doesn't show him talking about his alternative does not mean he doesn't have one.
Can you find the video or I am supposed to believe you on faith?
Taxation is not exploitative. You are getting services for what you are paying. You get schools, roads, firefighters. The tax codes are decided by the elected representatives of the people.
Are you telling me the business doesn't make more money off of you then they do working and don't you think the government makes a ton of money of people that helps them?
A quick google search tells me he openly advocates hate and fear of immigrants.
But did he say "he is against immigration"?
You don't win swing states by advocating for failed neo-liberal policies that have ruined lives. That is a great plan to keep people home on election day and let trump win. You win them by promising you have a vision to fix their problems and getting people out to vote. Sanders is the best positioned to do that.
This is assuming people care about policy they don't. They care about buzzwords like free college or worked with Obama. Do you accept that?
About the swing states, I forgot all the polls point to any Democrat in the lead but there are 8 swing states so it can go either way. I am going to drop this point.
I don't know precisely what his opinions on immigration were 15 years ago. maybe you are right and he was against it. But I do know that taking one sentence out of a conversation he had about a specific program and applying it to mean his opinion of the broader question of immigration is an extremely weak argument.
Please read what I said again. I carefully used my words and I will quote the important part of it.
First point is that we shouldn't have immigrants because they lower the wages of American workers. This is "heavily implied" given this very same can be used against immigration.
You didn't actually attack my reasoning instead said well this was 15 years ago and like before he was talking about guest workers programs so by talking about a specific immigration policy he is against it but I can't extrapolate that into the general topic of immigration.
He has a numerous plans for how to improve wages for american workers. Just because he knows that immigration is not the main problem does not mean he is somehow ok with lowering wages.
Are you denying he is pro lowering wages but that goes against his 2007 clip where he said he cared about american wages which is why he is against a specific immigration policy?
I'll repeat what I said again:
"he is willing to lower the wages of American workers during that time and that is if he is able to pass the law not fail and continue to lower American wages."
You did not attack the point. I am not the one pivoting here. Instead of talking about this very real conclusion if he is in office you instead talk about other policies. Are you intentionally avoiding because you know this goes against him not being for lowering American wages in the 2007 clip?
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@Greyparrot
What do you think can help the culture and what is causing the problems? Specifics would be helpful.Something along the lines of an instant gratification culture over an invest in yourself culture. You know, the REAL reason why Asians are better at everything?
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@HistoryBuff
Remember when you said I didn't give you an argument about Bernie? I have so do talk about instead of pivoting.
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@Greyparrot
Like what?All I am saying is that the very people making these poor choices also happen to be poor. There is something else going on.
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@Greyparrot
Why do people make bad choices then?
Sugar tax does work as in people are buying less sugar related stuff but bad as an economic proposal. I would say a healthy populace is a healthier employee so I think it is worth regulating it.
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@HistoryBuff
Who said anything about corruption. Like I said before that Bernie is perfectly fine taking money from Amazon and Universities.So people who work at universities or at amazon donate money to him and you think that is evidence of corruption?
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Lol he is advocating a nanny state.
Lol I didn't think you actually didn't want to help people. It just goes to show if my person is saying it, it is okay but if someone who I am opposing is saying it then it is bad. You are not willing to keep people healthy by making sure you prevent health discrepancies instead allow people to be fat then the health facilities have to deal with liposuction, diabetes etc. I knew the socialist left was for the economically illiterate who don't know a damn thing about what things cost while also not knowing preventative care is the most important kind of care. If no one is ill then people can live longer lives and healthier ones instead of making them suffer waiting in a waiting room to be diagnosed and prescribed a medication that possibly will fix the problem but not help the person realize not too simply get ill again. This is specifically targeting preventative care.
Basically he is saying that the state needs to tax poor people because they are too stupid to take care of themselves.
They are stupid. No one with a sane mind decides to have kids with such shit conditions but poor people time and time again keep doing it thus repeating the poverty cycle.
Bloomberg is the exact parody of a "liberal" that republicans point to.
Basically anyone who isn't a socialist is a right winger. Lol.
He is the "perfect" mix of restricting people's freedoms because he thinks he knows better than them, while simultaneously doing nothing to actually improve their lives, like say providing health care or education.
I didn't know the mayor had the power of the president to enact laws. Oh wait he doesn't so by you saying this shows your ignorance in how things work. You need political support to enact legislation.
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@HistoryBuff
I think you are saying that your argument is the 1st video.
No I mean when I make an error I use the equal sign to mean this was what I supposed to say. Here is an erooor
Now here is how I tell you what is was supposed to say:
eroor = error
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@Greyparrot
Bernie is just mad that last election Hillary showed him he can't milk people like she does.
It is funny that he wants free college but is perfectly fine with taking money from Universities. University of California is one such Uni and guess who else Amazon, the very same company he and AOC screwed over while also screwing over the people who could've found jobs in the new facility.
Even now he is perfectly fine taking Amazon's money and a Universities.
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@HistoryBuff
Like how socialists who just can't help themselves critique this very amazing take:that is one really lazy centrist smear job.
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@Greyparrot
Do you have an opinion on that source?
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@HistoryBuff
No that = means it was supposed to be this.
I make an eroor like that and use
eroor = error.
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@Barney
The first draft had 9 forums, the final had 14. You want to make a fool of yourself by saying all 5 of those were just the single archive, I really can't stop you.
Are you allowed to change the forum topic after 25 days?
If so I am sorry. Didn't know the moderation team were able to change a thread in a much greater window than users.
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@Barney
Oh so you don't acknowledge that you didn't actually make a good faith effort to acknowledge the reasons you gave me to not have Sports in the Entertainment Industry even though I have demonstrated all the arguments you gave work on the other side as well.You wait over a month, within such time you complain that I did not finalize my suggestions up to Mike faster (even calling waiting for user feedback an "elongated ejaculation"), respond in the wrong thread... Need I go on?
Let me put it simply for you: No, I will not delete the Sports forum for you; no matter how much you dislike one user in it.
Let me try and be simple. You can't contest what I said so you even trying to put up an argument. You had a month to "finalize" no changes so I guess that was the reason why you didn't critique my position instead critiqued on the basis of data I do not have myself.
Maybe it would actually be fair to:
1) Actually provide evidence on how you got to ranking conclusions
2) Critique the points I clearly laid out above
3) Then ask me to respond when I have the data you created or you know don't give me and expect me to trust you on blind faith. If it wasn't clear I am not Religious so that isn't a thing that I do.
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@HistoryBuff
Some people do.
I didn't ask if people do. I was implying would the argument be also correct in respect to immigration?
You are trying to paint him as inconsistent on immigration and then showing him making an argument about a specific exploitative program.
Nope my statement was that Bernie is against immigration in that video yet is pro immigration now. This can clearly been seen. Worker programs even though only 6.6% have been permanent residents are still immigrants. He didn't say he wants to improve it, he said he wants to remove it without an alternative.
Taxation is exploitative. A job is exploitative. Having an outrage over a specific program is a red herring because almost everyone is exploited for their labor.
You have not shown him give any argument on immigration in general other than the one that is his current position. If you feel it has changed then the burden of proof is on you to show that it has changed.
If I am Nick Fuentes and say we need to protect our western values and people decide to take that as we should be against immigration, don't you think I am to blame for what the people who follow me believe?
People made the same arguments about trump. How the establishment would just obstruct him. But the republicans all bent the knee once he took over.
Why would the Democrats do the same again and how to do you propose Bernie wins the swing states?
Umm, 60,000 in a population of 900,000 is 6.6%, not 21%.
Yeah it is that sorry.
You wanted to argue that Sanders is inconsistent on immigration. You have failed to do that.
My argument:
This:
"and that gets us to the immigration issue if poverty is increasing and if wages are going down. I don't know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are right now"
is different to this:
"I believe we should move towards a path to citizenship" 2nd video 1:02
First point is that we shouldn't have immigrants because they lower the wages of American workers. This is heavily implied given this very same can be used against immigration.
Second point is that we should make immigrants citizens. Meaning he doesn't care about lowering the wages of American workers. This is also heavily implied because given the time it would take him to do this he is willing to lower the wages of American workers during that time and that is if he is able to pass the law not fail and continue to lower American wages.
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@HistoryBuff
He did not say he is against immigration in that clip.
Sure but can that very same argument be used against immigration entirely?
Bernie has specific plans for how he will actually help people.
How about the unlikelihood of him winning, support in senate and congress?
This link is from a pro-union source. Do you have a non-union source? I'll still speak about the links. Pro union "The Department for Professional Employees, AFL-CIO (DPE) was formed in 1977 to be the voice for working professionals in America’s unions."
- Employers have the option of sponsoring H-1B workers for permanent status, but few do. Just over 60,000 H-1B workers had their applications for permanent status certified in FY 2016 and for various reasons, not all of these certified petitions will lead to permanent status.[47] Considering 275,317 H-1B visas were issued and renewed in FY 2015[48] and the size of the H-1B workforce is projected to be nearly 900,000, few employers are transitioning guest workers to permanent status. If a skilled worker is exceptionally talented, a company should be motivated to keep the worker permanently. Instead, the lack of sponsorships is further evidence that guest workers are used as cheap, temporary labor.
So the claim here is that few H-1B workers are remaining permanent?
From the numbers using this link we find out that 21.79% of them are being employed permanently. What should the number be or should this program never exist? This can be when you talk about corporations again so I'll actually rebut the claim brought forward.
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@RationalMadman
Me.
Do you think stopping Brexit is worth pretty much f*cking over the majority of the population who voted for it?
I don't think the UK at this scale has had the government pretty much said Democracy doesn't matter.
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@HistoryBuff
No, they are not immigrants. immigrant implies they will stay.
Bernie said this in the video:
"and that gets us to the immigration issue if poverty is increasing and if wages are going down. I don't know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are right now"
Do you see how this can apply to immigration as well?
Being a populist just means you try to appeal to the people.
Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite".
The people you are referring to creating a dynamic called us vs them? Seems to me like instead of hating immigrants you hate the "elite" instead. Seems to me like Republicans already dislike the "elite". What separates Bernie and Trump specifically regarding populism?
Guest workers get discarded before they can get raises, benefits, citizenship etc.
Source.
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@HistoryBuff
So are they immigrants who decrease the wages of American workers?the 1st video he is specifically talking about the guest worker program where large corporations import workers rather than trying to hire americans.
He talks like a populist should that is why he is so like Trump.
The 2nd video is about undocumented immigrants already living in america or trying to move to america. Many of these people already live in america.
What makes them different to the guest worker program immigrants?
I am not going to waste my time with the other arguments you make until you bother to answer these arguments. Please make it short.
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@Dr.Franklin
So I need to talk to you like how you talk to make you understand noted.
Didn't you say this before?
"I don't have to listen to you rambling"
Yet are still here.
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@Barney
Oh so you did respond to this:
"The sports person might share a meme. The Netflix person might share a detail breakdown of how much time an actor spent on perfecting his art for the most recent move or TV show they were in. Here look at this video. If you wanted niche topics talked about here is a channel dedicated to it. If you couldn't find a niche topic here is one from the channel.
If Deflate-Gate wasn't niche then it has to be controversy. Well here is controversy for you.
Just so we are clear what I just did. I simply took the formulation of your arguments and applied it to be comparable to the other side. Meaning the differences you laid out are not actually differences instead you simply not realizing the other side that you are saying doesn't have, actually does have it.
A person shares a meme.
B person shares a meme.
A has detailed breakdowns.
B has detailed breakdowns.
Look A has this niche topic.
Look B has this niche topic.
A= Sports
B= Netflix or are more fair comparison would be Movies or TV shows because we would be comparing different forms of entertainment not a streaming service vs an entire industry. "
Oh wait you didn't actually instead you just said this:
- Here look at this..."
- No, I don't care to spend my time watching your videos.
Great job representing the most important point you gave for having Movies in a different section that Sports. Who would've thought you weren't actually there to realize and improve on the restructuring instead simply avoid what people say and not change a single thing.
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@HistoryBuff
So...
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Watch this before watching the next. You would be surprised that Bernie isn't actually as consistent as lefties say he is:
Then this one:
This is from a guy who is a protectionist that was against immigration and now for it?
Bernie is just like any candidate. When a position becomes untenable because of the Overton Window they decide to change. Politics is game of how can you win. Sure people can have personal beliefs but they are not going to say it if it does not benefit them.
Lefties as in socialists, commies or anarchists.
Liberals who make the majority of the left are the reason why Bernie is pretty much doing worse than Biden in any poll.
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I find it very ironic a popular person against globalism makes a ton of money off of capitalism. It just so happens the United States is open to external country markets and Tucker just can't help himself but reap the benefits of it. Maybe you should really take a long hard look at the people you idolize and realize they don't really care about you, only care if you keep watching thus making sure they are still making money.
Do find actually find me a proponent of protectionism that isn't a hack by being a hypocrite. No names don't count, don't expect me to care about an irrelevant 10k andy. Try and find a popular virtuous person who puts his ideas in front of the money they definitely need.
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@Dr.Franklin
I am not disabled, this is an outrageous claim you have zero evidence for
Outrageous? Something has to explain your incompetency. I'll choose this. I don't believe you when you want evidence. You simply want me to waste my time in order for you to retreat to your actual position. Just like in the debate.
Shitposting is a symbol that I don't care, it should be like that, I don't care about this site because it means nothing to my career and education and my self-identity, that's why I am anonymous.
I don't who would even care if you reveled your identity. Your a meme of this site. Your only claim is that your the literal shitposter of this site. A person who gives one word responses and now actually does more than one line response. I am sorry if this is taking too much out of you and you could've grinded your way to the topic with 5 different comments instead of one.
you are a human being argument is because you think that race traitors exist, we don't Homo Sapien is before race
???
Guess you still ridicule the historical legitimacy of an Uncle Tom. I know you care more about winning than you actually wanting to learn even though your position in the debate is indefensible even though how lazy you can be in the debate but I don't want to be dragged to a shitposter level like you.
Please tell me when you stop being a High School Libertarian.
I spend time doing things that is enjoyable, I think debating is enjoyable, you have an issue with that, hmmm not surprised
Okay dude. Guess a High School Libertarian can't even understand what constitutes a lie.
Why are you obsessed with my parents?
Me finding reasons why you lack critical thinking skills is me obsessing over your parents?
Okay dude.
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I mean I think a disabled person would have a much worse time than I do but guess you can't see it.Honestly, how do you even function in society when every little detail about life including an ONLINE FORUM triggers you and you need to Kritik it, you haven't made, understood, or liked.
Everything is serious to you, this website does not matter to me.
Why shitpost on a place you don't care about? It is almost as if you don't know what you are talking about. I don't care about gardening which is why I don't do it. Dr.Franklin over here is on a site he doesn't care about. Why are you wasting your time here? It is okay to leave.
It's a place to have a discussion while improving on researching and making arguments.
Talking to a person who uses "you are a human being" as an argument and who spends the majority of his time shitposting. I can't believe you can lie like this.
I don't have to listen to you rambling on about my incompetence and my parents when you have nothing to do with anything in my life.
I am going to add nuance to this conversation which I don't think you will understand because you are not here to improve instead shitpost and jerk yourself off with people you agree with. You spent your life on debateart.com. Sure it is not a lot compared with your parents but it is still time. You have decided to spend it on a site that "does not matter" to you yet here you are and you even said "I don't have to listen to you rambling" yet here you are continuing to listen to my ramblings. So basically you are wasting your time on a site that doesn't matter to you and on a person who you said you don't want to listen to their ramblings. I mean I say it once and I'll say it again, your such a liar.
Are you going to make a coherent point or is Dr.Franklin the same DDO member who still can't make a coherent point?
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@Dr.Franklin
I guess you being disabled is another reason for your incompetency. Guess I have another thing to blame on your parents.
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@Dr.Franklin
Wow that must be your attitude to your life. Are your parents proud of you for literally being incompetent?
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@Dr.Franklin
Cry me a river. I don't care you don't know you are wrong. You are doing a disservice for discourse and progress. You can't even formulate a coherent point, rely on shitposting in a way to bolster your rank on the leaderboard. You really must be insecure if all you have to go on is how much forum posts you create. Not if you are personally giving good arguments or can even debate to save your life. I wonder sometimes if people can actually learn from their mistakes but then I meet a person like you who I made predictions of your arguments but didn't realize I am speaking to a high school libertarian. I did get some right though. Even for how surface level you are you still can't be consistent instead flip flop around from being a skeptic, race is not real and well let me tell you something that is not relevant. There is only brief moments when you give arguments then I am so humbly met with the argument of "we are human beings".
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@Dr.Franklin
I am sorry, I don't think everything is a joke bro. I actually take things seriously not like you who can't even bother to demonstrate how he is right. You must be young if not then I am sorry your parents weren't there for you. Actually I feel sorry for you anyway. Indoctrinated into conservatism and Christianity must really make it difficult when every single decade the Overton Window pushes to the left. 10 years ago Alex was able to push 9/11 conspiracy theories. Now he barely has a platform. As much as I dislike censorship, at least it isn't me or anyone who I politically align with.
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@David
Part of the issue is that Mike is super busy and is working on getting this organized. The moderation team has no control of when these things happen. We can't simply add forums or add pages. That's something Mike has to do.
Mike might be busy but was Ragnar too busy to notify anyone in that thread your opinion doesn't matter unless you were people who were already agreeing with him in the first place?
Oh and my mistake he didn't actually change anything. I apologize, I actually thought he changed something from the 1st thread to his last on the subject.
Are you going to reply my private message or does the head mod choose whenever he graces me with his presence even when it doesn't concern him?
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@RationalMadman
I know you have a problem with Ramshutu but Ragnar is worse. I can see whatever he is doing with the forum restructuring. It took him more than a month to say he is acting on it incrementally. The only thing that changed was there was an extra section which was archived. I don't know if it just me but it doesn't take that long to simply add one thing or better yet implement the 1st Draft and remember you needed an archive section. Add it in all I am sure could've all been finalized in less than a month. He didn't take criticism seriously so I don't see the point entertaining a discussion.
1st Draft:
Working Draft (updated at 15:30 PST 11/26):
This will be edited by any moderator (probably Ragnar, but all have my permission), so new members joining the discussion need not wade through everything to understand the current state of the proposal. As of 11/19, descriptions are on the second line of each entry.
- DART Site ManagementDebateArt.com administrative matters, rules, refinements, and more.
- DART Community HubFor the users and by the users, this is the main social hub.
- Artistic ExpressionCommunity generated art, music, writing, etc.
- Current EventsNews and various micro events of the day.
- Entertainment IndustryMovies, TV, music, celebrities, etc.
- Mafia HubMafia and other forum games.
- GamingVideo gaming and related technicality, plus any discussion of board games, etc.
- PhilosophyEpistemology, Logic, Metaphysics, Ethics, and Aesthetics.
- ReligionSpirituality, faith, and religious concepts.
- Science and NatureThe natural world and the systematic study thereof.
- SocietyPolitics, History, Economics, etc.
- SportsNeeding to shoot a 3-pointer while screaming Kobe? This is the forum for you. Just don't airball!
- ArchivePrimarily for outmoded administrative threads.
- MiscellaneousEverything not covered within the other categories...
Last Draft:
- DART Site ManagementDebateArt.com administrative matters, rules, refinements, and more.
- DART Community HubFor the users and by the users, this is the main social hub.
- Artistic ExpressionCommunity generated art, music, writing, etc.
- Current EventsNews and various micro events of the day.
- Entertainment IndustryMovies, TV, music, celebrities, etc.
- Mafia HubMafia and other forum games.
- GamingVideo gaming and related technicality, plus any discussion of board games, etc.
- PhilosophyEpistemology, Logic, Metaphysics, Ethics, and Aesthetics.
- ReligionSpirituality, faith, and religious concepts.
- Science and NatureThe natural world and the systematic study thereof.
- SocietyPolitics, History, Economics, etc.
- SportsNeeding to shoot a 3-pointer while screaming Kobe? This is the forum for you. Just don't airball!
- ArchivePrimarily for outmoded administrative threads.
- MiscellaneousEverything not covered within the other categories...
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@Barney
Noted. Less scrolling for everyone is part of the goal of the forum restructuring project.
What is the more important reason since you didn't actually state the structuring will be based on what is the most relevant thread? I am guessing alphabetical.
Reasons for alphabetical were suggested first by a primarily religion forum member
Who, Mopac, Stephen or 3RU7AL?
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@Swagnarok
Do you have a different defense or am I going to have to converse with you on the claim it is just a joke bro?
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@DebateArt.com
Before clicking on any forum it looks like this:
Author: TheRealNihilist
Missing out the parts of the left because it isn't relevant.
The 1st line is basically the title of the forum post. The second line I would assume be the author of the thread itself but it is the author of the most recent comment. I think it should be changed to something like recent commenter because I think the author generally refers to the person who created a body of work not speaking about someone in that work that isn't the author of the work. You can of course add 4 lines like this:
Oh yeah, I know the author refers to the most recent commenter because you created the thread not me.
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@DebateArt.com
How likely is a dark mode feature?
I have tried alternatives but they are crap.
Do you have a date as well?
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