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@SocraticGregarian96
He says half of all the vehicles on the market by 2030 will be electric (that sound more like a mandate than a choice)
It’s neither; it’s a goal. He wants electric cars to be better quality so people are more willing to buy them.
And we both know biden has a history of mandates (covid lockdown and vaccines)
Biden’s standard was, “vaccinate or test” (definition of a soft mandate). If you didn’t want to get vaccinated, then all you had to do was test regularly. Eric Adams did the hard mandate (get vaxxed or else lose your job) (and so did Fox News) and they both should be condemned here. But that’s not Biden’s choice. That’s a local government. It would be like getting angry at Trump because CO decided to legalize abortion until the moment of birth. Blame their governor for that; not Trump.
I meant that Biden is unreasonable as POTUS.
Depends on the issue.
Trump said that, no matter what, he will NEVER put a federal ban on abortion. It is up to the states.
Leaving abortion up to the states was a Trojan horse to ban it federally but gradually. But this should be accompanied with a culture of vasectomies.
Does that sound like somebody who wants to get rid of free and fair elections?
His abortion position isn’t why I believe that. His “every election I lose is rigged” position is why I believe that.
First of all, it’s not Trump's job to tell a guy to get a vasectomy
It’s not. It’s the government’s job to tell women to only have vaginal sex with vasectomized men to prevent abortion and unplanned pregnancies.
If his argument is, “leave it up to the states”, then why not go further? Why not leave it up to the counties? Or the cities? Or the precincts? Or each individual woman? This is why “leave it up to the states” is weasely and I would rather have a nationwide abortion ban at conception with a culture of vasectomies.
Second, if every guy got a vasectomy, there would be no more reproduction.
Not inheritely true. This is why pre vasectomy, men should store pre vasectomy sperm in a sperm vial in a hospital freezer (preferably in spread out hospitals) if they ever want kids. Now you can reproduce at will instead of dealing with unplanned pregnancies.
I’d stop listening to cnn if i were you.
I don’t listen to them. But I don’t think it’s hyperbole.
Until I hear from the man himself that he wants to end elections
He said we should terminate the constitution and he has endorsed project 2025, which would make him a dictator. He won’t just go on X and say we should end elections, but he will endorse bills with a bunch of things in them and one of them would make Trump a dictator. It has to be hidden because otherwise Trump would lose the independents, but it’s there.
I claimed I’m a moderate left. I’m not a trump fanatic but you can’t deny he’s better than sleepy joe.
It’s better to have dementia than to be a dictator.
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@Mall
So your claim is that you think it’s free speech, but Big Tech will censor it because to them, conservative speech is hate speech?
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@SocraticGregarian96
Sorry, I missed the part that he wants to ban porn; but is banning porn worse than mandating e-vehicles?
Possible, but E vehicles aren’t mandatory and nobody is suggesting forcing people to own EVs with the bad infrastructure that exists right now.
I’m pro-environment, but more importantly, I'm anti-mandate.
Most people (including myself) are. Most cars on the road are gas cars and most new cars being sold are gas cars. Nobody in power in 2024 is advocating forcing people to use EVs. This is different than wanting to promote EVs.
but with trump at least we can have a rational discussion about this. With Biden and his posse, they are crazy extreme.
Biden is POTUS right now. You are allowed to debate whether Porn or gas cars should be banned.
If you agree with criminalizing roe v wade, then how is that an anti-trump argument?
Because overturning Roe V Wade won’t virtually eliminate abortions. Vasectomies for men before they have vaginal sex with women would. I support a nationwide abortion ban at conception, but that is only plausible with a culture of vasectomies which Trump didn’t promote.
You mentioned January 6 and yes he instigated but he never said to storm the capital.
Trump caused Jan 6 to happen.
And Jan. 6 doesn’t impact your life.
If Jan 6 succeeded, then there would be no more free and fair elections in the US.
If Trump really was a dictator, he would have shown that in his first term.
I’m glad you brought this up. The reason why Trump didn’t take away elections in his first term was because the people he was surrounded by were mainly establishment republicans; people that believed in elections and that were not Trump loyalists.
Trump the next time (if he wins) will fill his administration with Trump loyalists who won’t question anything he does. If Trump wants to end elections, then he would do it and his new administration won’t do anything to stop him.
And you didn’t actually give any reasons why you like Biden,
That’s because I don’t like him either. But why don’t you like Trump? You claim you don’t like him.
you just stated why you hate trump but I debunked all of them.
And I rebutted your responses. And you probably will rebut some of mine. That’s how debating works.
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@wylted
However, the danger in doing this is that by voting your favorite choice first knowing they are likely to be eliminated in the first round, it may be best to vote your 3rd favorite choice first.
Why? If your 1st and 2nd choice get eliminated, then your 3rd place vote would be the one that gets counted.
Also I am not sure why you started this thread yet. I haven't written my argument out yet
I thought you wanted me to start this thread.
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@SocraticGregarian96
Pro environment and pro-cheap healthcare are some good examples
Fine. I'm pro nuclear energy for the enviornment and I don't like UHC, but whatever.
Project 2025 does not ban porn.
Here is what I got from Wiki:
The Project seeks to infuse the government with elements of Christianity.[19][20] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[21] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[21][22] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs,[4][22] as well as affirmative action.[23]
You only have one single reason for hating trump. That’s not good enough. Name three things that he did as POTUS that negatively affected your life. Also, name three things Biden did that positively affected your life.
Project 2025 has:
- Porn banned
- Trump being a dictator, eliminating free and fair elections and democracy
Project 2025 seems to be full of a whole array of ideas that are designed to let Donald Trump function as a dictator, by completely eviscerating many of the restraints built into our system.
3. Jan 6
4. Repealing Roe V Wade (which I actually agree with) but then not enforcing a culture of vasectomies. If abortion is to be banned (which I agree with), then men should get vasectomies before they have sex (like what I would be willing to do). Trump did not promote a culture of vasectomies (probably because bodily autonomy for me, but not for thee).
I prefer RFK to Biden, but I don't like Biden or Trump.
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People will still vote strategically in RCV
I don't agree with that. People will still rank their best option as #1, their 2nd best as #2, etc because if their #1 gets eliminated, then they have a 2nd place vote to rely on.
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@SocraticGregarian96
When there is a problem in the USA, it is the POTUS’ fault. Always. 100% of the time. He’s the commander-in-chief and is the one responsible.
Biden didn't appoint the federal reserve people responsible for inflation.
And regarding free speech, yes I agree that hate speech is free speech. But threatening to commit a crime is a crime.
Advocating for Israel to not exist is not the same thing as saying, "I'm going to murder Issac Shalom".
It’s possible to be pro-Israel and America first.
No it is not.
I’m not one of those nikki haley retards who puts everything on the line for Israel, but just stick up for your biggest ally and tell Iran to stop funding terrorist proxy groups.
The left says the same thing about Ukraine and the Russian terrorists. It's all an excuse for war.
As for the border, when people say “run the government like a business”, as Vivek said before, it means implementing zero-based budgeting, not allowing people from mental asylums, that are drug addicts and criminals through our southern border.
The vast majority of the undocumented don't meet this criteria. The ones that do should be left alone if they are crazy and minding their own buisiness and if they are addicted to drugs like weed or similar. The ones committing a crime like murder should be executed. The ones committing a crime like driving 60 on a 55 should be left alone.
Illegals can’t increase the GDP because they are gosh darn illegal.
Why would that matter? Green card requirements should stop being a thing for jobs.
How in the hell would the government track illegal sales?
Sales tax. Like if someone buys an AR 15 and the state made them illegal, then why would I care? But if someone was buying crack or cocaine, then you can't even track it if an American Citizen bought it.
My uncle’s car was smashed by an illegal last year.
That person should be doing community service to generate revenue to pay off the debt of your uncle's car (and if she runs off, then she should get lashed and her sentence increased). If she needs to be whipped to get her to fall in line and improve our infrastructure through hard labor, then so be it. This is not reflective of the majority of the undocumented though.
I’m curious, why do you genuinely prefer Biden?
Because Trump supports Project 2025, which bans porn (if you are a liberal, then you would be strongly against this).
because as liberal as I am, even I know that the case was a sham.
I'm not the first person to accuse someone who calls themselves left wing of being republican, but I also don't like it when someone like Russel Brand or Tulsi Gabbard calls themselves leftist when they are not.
How are you left wing?
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I will make my case for rank choice voting.
I don't like the idea of being pressured to pick between only 2 parties since 3rd party votes are deemed, "wasted votes".
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@Mall
Apparently it is not saying something. It's calling for the death, encouraging, spreading threats.
Calling for abortion to be banned is the same as saying abortion should be banned.
Calling for rapists to be killed is the same as saying rapists should be killed.
It would be a threat if I said, "I'm going to kill this rapist" and if I encouraged vigilantes to do so without evidence. Me calling for rapists and murderers to be killed is free speech.
If you rape someone, then you should get killed. My free speech matters more than the feelings of felons (hate speech is free speech) and my tax dollars matter more to me than rapist's and murderer's lives (part of cutting government spending).
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I support it; Wylted does not.
This will be the starting thread for it.
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@Best.Korea
Their military budget is very high, given that they have so many missiles, ICBMs, tanks, artillery, soldiers...ect.
$3.6 billion a year.
That's less than half of Finland's.
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@3RU7AL
try and imagine what it would be like to live in a world where nobody lies
I can imagine a better world; a world where nobody murders.
Murder is worse than lying; hands down.
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@Wylted
If you looked into the history of the phrase you know that is a call for the genocide of every jew in Israel and giving the land to Palestinians.It's pretty obvious that platforms will censor calls for genocide
In other words, according to X, hate speech is not free speech.
In reality, hate speech should be classified as free speech.
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@SocraticGregarian96
When I go to the grocery store to buy eggs and milk and the prices are higher than they were under trump, My vote says Trump
Infation exists and it's the federal reserve that does that, not any POTUS directly.
When I turn on the news and see biden falling off another staircase, My vote says Trump
We've had POTUSes in wheelchairs before. I've fallen before. Biden might be mentally incompetent; but then he's being controlled. Lets say it's Jill Biden that's controlling him.
Treat the election as Jill Biden vs Donald Trump.
When there are fewer wars and we aren’t going into trillions of dollars in debt for foreign countries, my vote says trump.
Trump and Biden both got us deeper in debt. I don't like either one of them.
When Millions of illegal aliens are flowing through our southern border, my vote says trump
Ice should be abolished and the US should open our borders in the name of running the country like a business. Businesses don't care if you are documented or not, they just want your money. This country should be run the same way. If the business can make money, then it's borders are 100% open.
When stores are shutting down and in CA you can steal up to $900, my vote says trump
This is an argument against Newsom. Like, I hate Trump and Newsom.
When Biden takes crack to seem somewhat senile, and is pedophilic with children, my vote says trump
If sniffing children's hair is pedophillia, then my Dad is a pedophille. The only thing that should be illegal regarding pedophillia is having sex with children.
When it’s hard to find a job and wages are cheaper and when I do make the money, it’s worth less. Then my vote says trump.
The unemployment rate went down under Obama, Trump, and Biden. The GDP per capita has consistently gone up.
When Trump wants to make america great, and biden wants to enforce stupid identity politics and DEI and just keep bending the knee to woke garbage, my vote says trump.
What is Trump's plan to make america great? Affirmitive Action got repealed under Biden's presidency and it's not the law in any state (not even California where Affirmitive Action lost the vote).
When Trump makes great speeches and biden mumbles, my vote says trump.When Trump is strong (for his age) and Biden is weak, my vote says trump
Both presidents have made speeches. I don't know how strong physically each POTUS is. Trump is definitely fatter, but he could have more muscle.
One more thing about the Border btw.There are a reported 7.2 million illegals that have crossed the border under biden. And when you look at all the interviews of ICE, that’s an extremely conservative estimate.Anyways, let’s use that number just for kicks. If even 1% of those people commit a homicide, even just once, we have 70+ thousand killers on our hands. To put that into perspective, there have been about only 5000 killings from gun violence this year (as of Feb.’24). Who knows how many of those are illegals?How many more Laken Rileys will have to be killed in order to secure the border. And don’t tell me Biden is trying to close the border. We both know that’s bullshit to get more votes.
Far fewer than 1% of undocumented immigrants are murderers.
The undocumented might be more or less likely to commit murder as the native born depending on the source. The penalty for murderer should be beheading, blood and organs taken from them, and it goes to save the lives of AMERICAN PATRIOTS!! But the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are totally harmless.
If an undocumented immigrant is 4x as likely to commit murder, then they should be 4x as likely to get executed for murder. All of the peaceful undocumented immigrants should be left alone.
Just like men are more likely to rape, but that doesn't justify executing every single man.
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@ILikePie5
Quality of care will decrease. More low skilled workers, same amount of doctors = worse care
More low skilled workers, roughly proportional amount of doctors = same care. You want more doctors? Then make medical degrees free so people are more willing to become doctors. Raising taxes on the globalists can help pay for this.
Low skilled Americans can increase the GDP will higher wages.
Yes, and so can workers that want to move here. Why not both?
Again, why don’t they do that in their own nations?
Definition of Group A: Indians in India, Nigerians in Nigeria, etc.
Definition of Group B: Indian Americans in America, Nigerian Americans in Nigeria, etc.
For every $1 someone from group A earns, someone from Group B earns about $4-5.
People earn more when allowed to live in America.
America has laws and sovereignty.
So change the laws. How would our sovereignty be threatened by abolishing ICE?
By definition, if you accept everyone then America becomes more like Latin America.
Latin American countries don't have open borders. In fact, Latin American countries didn't even unite; American states did. Latin America is tougher on immigration than America is. They shouldn't be, but they are.
As for liberty, why can they not do that in their own nation?
Too much government red tape in their own nation. America has much less government red tape. Too strict gun laws, making gun ownership rare and thieves more likely to take your stuff.
It’ll make a dent. Discretionary spending is still 30-40% of the budget.
So what discretionary spending do you want to cut to balance the budget?
Let it run on until it becomes insolvent, then people will realize.
If this happens, then a lot of erldely people would die due to lack of social security. Everyone who is on social security should stay on it for the rest of their lives.
Trump has said he wants Israel to end the war quickly. Not the US. Israel. Right now Biden is actively hindering Israeli operations because of “muh human rights.”
Israel ending the war would be the same as Israel hindering it's operations.
So you agree we need tariffs until other countries agree to remove their tariffs. Great—vote for Trump
NAFTA and TPP made free trade more expansive and mutual; I heard Trump ended it. We need like a GFTA (Global Free Trade Agreement) between all the nations in the world that don't have child slavery or legal marital rape.
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@Swagnarok
If Trump loses, it'll probably spell the death of political pluralism in America. If he wins, political pluralism will survive. Even if he doesn't do a good job as president in his second term, the survival of political pluralism is worth this in the long run.
Definition of political pluralism:
Pluralism as a political philosophy is the diversity within a political body, which is seen to permit the peaceful coexistence of different interests, convictions, and lifestyles.
This label only applies to libertarians. If your lifestyle is getting abortions every Sunday, then the right would not accept that (and they shouldn't) but political pluralism is not unconditionally good or bad.
As we speak they are tightening the noose around the average person, demanding ever stricter and stricter purity tests, so that now you're a "bad person" for watching films with wrongthink content
If Big Tech wanted to censor conservatives, then nobody would know who Ben Shapiro is because he would have been banned before he became famous. Big tech has a vested interest actually in censoring leftists because the more people vote red, the more republicans are in power and therefore, the lower Big Tech's taxes can be.
for trying to keep a neutral stance on Israel-Gaza or being indifferent about politics
This doesn't get you censored.
for saying "all lives matter" and believing it, for being upset because your only son just cut his testicles off, and so on
And neither does this.
But saying, "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free" will get you censored on X. I don't even care about Israel/Palestine, but people should have the right to state pro Palestine views.
This is what we'll get if Trump loses, because the oligarchs will seize this opportunity to smash the Republican Party.
Trump lost in 2020. Why didn't the oligarchs smash the GOP right now? You think the oligarchs are going to smash the party that keep their taxes low?
It will tarnish the Republican name, and this will be all anyone remembers about Trump.
Why do you care if the GOP name gets tarnished? It's not your name. It's the name of an organization. It would be like me caring if my school's name gets tarnished; there is a school in my area that had a teacher rape an underage student; that school's name is tarnished. But you aren't shamed upon simply by you going to that school. You want to clean up the GOP image? Then get rid of Trump.
But more importantly, the Biden Administration will continue to let illegal immigrants into the United States. This will have consequences in 2030 for Congressional reapportionment, and in the long run either they or their children will be eligible to vote in US Federal and state elections, where they'll vote like 90% Democrat so they enjoy a patron-client relationship with the party that let them get away with staying in this country illegally.
What is wrong with immigrants being more likely to be democrat (or republican)? Like what's the worst that would happen? So what if the person living in the white house is more likely to have a D next to their name? How does that objectively make anything worse? If you want immigrants to vote republican, then stop threatening to deport their families and they would be more willing to vote republican. Until that happens, prepare for a blue waive.
BTW, this idea of deporting undocumented immigrants is a contradiction of when you claimed Trump supports political pluralism because undocumented immigrants have being undocumented as part of their lifestyle.
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@ILikePie5
That’s irrelevant to the quality of life Americans currently have that will suffer.
How would Americans have a worse quality of life due to more customers coming here?
Not to mention that most that come are low skilled laborers who will solely provide cheap labor.
The GDP per capita of undocumented immigrants (with all the job restrictions that they deal with) is comparable to the Canadian GDP per capita. Canada is not a poor country.
And if your hypothesis is true then businesses wouldn’t pass down costs.
What does it mean to pass down costs? Companies make a profit margin of a comparable amount whether there are more or less people in the US, but they make more profit due to more people buying their stuff and more of their stuff being produced, creating more jobs.
Either way, it goes against common sense that we wouldn’t have a border while every other nation does.
Every other country in the world is based on an ethnicity; America is based on an idea; Liberty. This is what makes America the greatest country in the world.
Cut foreign aid. Cut the Department of Education.
I agree, but this will raise little revenue for the federal government compared to the deficit.
Let social security and Medicare collapse under its own weight, so the band aid gets ripped off.
You've just lost the elderly vote (who normally goes republican). We are keeping social security, and that's what Trump said.
His policy is not having war. He will end the war in Ukraine. End the war in Israel.
Trump wants us involved with Israel, but you are right on Ukrainian interventionism.
Free trade is great…if it’s actually free and other countries don’t tariff us.
Yes; free trade should be mutual.
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@GP
The ones Biden stole, like keeping the tax cuts, and suddenly deciding to secure the border months before the election.
What government spending are you willing to cut to make your tax cuts a reality?
Immigration: America should be run like a business. Buisinesses don’t care if you are documented or not; they just want your money. This country should be run the same way and this means end deportations; have our borders be as open as the Harley Davidson buisiness is, and use massive population growth to grow our GDP to stay ahead of China.
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@ILikePie5
Immigration, tax cuts, foreign policy, trade
- America should be run like a business. Buisinesses don’t care if you are documented or not; they just want your money. This country should be run the same way and this means end deportations; have our borders be as open as the Harley Davidson buisiness is, and use massive population growth to grow our GDP to stay ahead of China.
- You support tax cuts. What spending cuts do you support in order to make your tax cuts for the globalists a reality?
- What particular foreign policy are you referring to? His Israeli foreign policy is not putting America first, so I don’t approve (same with Ukraine).
- I believe in capitalism and the free market; I therefore oppose tariffs on any country that both (does not use child slavery) and (does not have marital rape legalized in that country). But other than that, I believe in capitalism, free markets, and free trade Bill Clinton style.
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@Best.Korea
I wouldn’t worry too much about it. It’s like expecting the USSR to worry that the US formed an alliance with Belize.
Belize and Guyana are both insignificant.
North Korea could come and directly help Russia in war in Ukraine, which would mean that Ukraine would be now also up against millions of North Korean soldiers, millions more artillery pieces, thousands more tanks and missiles.
There are several PEOPLE in the US with higher net worths than the GDP of North Korea; their military is going to be poorly funded; and if they send any of their troops to Ukraine, then it makes it easier for South Korea to invade NK.
Russia could guarantee protection of North Korea, so North Korea is free to invade South Korea and USA wont be able to come to help South Korea without starting a global nuclear war with Russia.
NK won’t invade SK, although SK should join NATO just incase.
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@ILikePie5
Which ones?
Do you like his policies? Or do you only like his vibes?
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@SocraticGregarian96
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Biden:
- Did not do Jan 6
- Is not a convicted felon
For anyone valuing law and order, these are very strong positives. You have said that you lean left, so I will say some things about Biden that would appeal to a left winger
- Biden respects women enough to not commit adultery to his wife anytime she is pregnant with a porn star. Biden is more feminist in this respect.
- Biden is less of a racist than Trump is. Biden's most racist thing that he's done recently; generalized when he said if you vote for Trump, then you aren't black. The racist stuff Trump did:
- Advocated for deporting undocumented immigrants from our southern border and by supporting a border wall there. Keep in mind, the US doesn't have a border wall along our Canadian border (because Canada is stereotypically white). But our Mexican border is different. He says it's because the undocumented immigrants are rapists and drug dealers (the, "some I assume are good people" saved him). Full disclaimer; if Trump said, "Most of the undocumented immigrants I'm certain are totally fine, but there are a few murderers and rapists in your group and we need to keep them out", then it wouldn't be racist. But he didn't say "most I'm certain" are good people. He said, "some I assume" are good people. To claim the majority of undocumented immigrants are rapists and drug dealers is just sheer ignorance.
- Claiming we need people from Norway and not from Haiti. I think the more people that want to come to America, the better. His argument, "Norway is rich while Haiti is poor". Does Trump prefer Russian immigrants or Qatar immigrants? Trump talks more favorably about Russia than he does Qatar; so I would assume he prefers Russians (poor and white) over Qatar (rich and brown). He can't say, "They are poor, therefore they shouldn't belong here" because many of Trump's supporters are poor. He says Haiti is a bad place to live so he doesn't want their people. This would be like saying the trailer park is a shithole so don't accept redneck travelers into NYC.
But Biden deported more than Trump
True. But if Trump didn't run for POTUS, then Biden probably wouldn't have deported half what he did because a huge anti undocumented bias wouldn't exist in the US.
I'm curious as to why you believe Trump is better than Biden.
Virtually everyone that likes Trump I believe just likes the vibes of Trump, not any policies he did. Trump is not the same as Hitler; the former never did a genocide. But I love the vibes of Hitler (just as I do Trump). It doesn't mean I would vote for them. To me, Hitler speeches and Trump speeches are entertainment; I know better than to vote for him.
You can love the vibes of Trump while having enough sense to not vote for him. Trump has great vibes and charisma, but he doesn't belong in the white house.
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@SocraticGregarian96
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This is the fourm where SocraticGregarian96, myself, and others if they so choose can post about why they prefer one over the other. I prefer Biden to Trump.
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@WyIted
Yes, and I stand by that claim.
If you deport 1 million undocumented immigrants, then you are being tough on the border. If you don't deport them, then your immigration levels will be higher.
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@WyIted
The point of border security is to funnel immigrants into the country in a way where they can be vetted and keep out things like the cartel travelling back and forth.
Here are some things people have with the cartel:
They bring drugs
So does Boehringer
But these drugs kill children and they aren't medical
The people bringing in child killing drugs should be beheaded. However, the vast majority of undocumented immigrants aren't doing this. Dead drug dealers sell less drugs than living ones.
You can stop 1 million illegal immigrants while simultaneously expanding legal immigration by 2 million a year.
Why not legalize the 1 million by executive order and get 3 million more taxpayers in the country? If 1.2 billion people want to move here, then what's the issue? If America did this, then our population density would only be half that of England. America has way more land than many people realize and every county can decide for themselves if they want to build undocumented cities in their county (by this, I mean letting the private sector build cities).
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@WyIted
Lets say 1.200 billion people want to immigrate to the US. Border security that keeps out 1.197 billion of them leaves 3 million immigrants per year. Border security that keeps out 1.199 billion of them leaves 1 million immigrants per year. The former situation is less border security and more immigrants; the ladder is more border security and less immigrants.
My ideal amount of border security keeps out 0 immigrants and we get 1.2 billion the year they want to come. It will be a brain drain on other countries, but I believe in this thing called America First. If other countries lose smart people because the US took them, then great. That benefits America, because population growth is a strength whether that population comes from Nigeria or Russia. I think it's good for White Americans (and all Americans) to have as many kids as they can afford to grow population and long term GDP the fastest.
This is how we stay ahead of China in terms of GDP.
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I as someone that is 25% Italian and 25% Maltese (the other half I'm not sure), I feel super marginalized (Maltese people alone are a marginalized community in the US since they are so rare (I think the most Maltese community in the US is only 2% Maltese) and I think I need my own separate safe spaces for people exactly 25% Italian and 25% Maltese who aren't sure about their other half.
My great grandparents moved here to integrate and learn English and now Irrid nitkellem biss bil-Malti. Il-kultura tiegħi qed tiffaċċja oppressjoni!
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@3RU7AL
What is your ideal penalty for murder? Because whatever that is, if you were logically consistent, then you would have the penalty for lying be the same.
I think that's crazy. Murder is worse than lying; hands down.
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@3RU7AL
lying about the purpose of a payment 34 times isn't exactly MURDER
It shouldn't be, but I believe people that commit adultery while being at least 25 years of age while their wife is pregnant should be banned from political office. Politicans need better morality.
i'd love to live in a world where lying is a crime equal to MURDER
That would mean death penalty would be the punishment for lying (or life imprisonment). Pretty much every American has lied at some point in their life or will lie at some point in their life.
I strongly disagree with this belief.
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@Wylted
Probably one of the reasons he insists on high levels of immigration while also balancing that with tough border security
The tougher on border security you are, the lower your immigration levels will be. You can't have it both ways. I prefer to run the country like a business and therefore abolish ICE (very good for businesses). Anyone that disagrees can't call themselves an economy voter as abolishing ICE would be tremendous for the US economy.
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@FLRW
Well, his wife is an immigrant who come here illegally on an Einstein visa. She was a sex worker.
But you see ... if Trump knows you and likes you, then you get an exception even though if he didn't, then she would be kicked out.
All versions of authoritarianism I support I assume somebody I know has that apply to them and I am willing to punish them the same as if all the people I knew that had the thing I'd want to restrict were strangers. For republicans, it's different.
Like, if someone I know turns out to be a murderer, then I would still want them killed. Many republicans would be fine with that person being freed if they murdered someone for being a democrat and they were on good terms with them.
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@Mall
Saying things versus calling for the deaths of people, sure you're going to get censored.
Who am I calling the death for? Is it Bob down the street for flipping me off? No. Is it Steve for making a joke at my expense? No.
Is it murderers and rapists? Yes.
What is your alternative punishment for murder and rape if not the death penalty?
And me advocating for the death of murderers and rapists is me saying things. You know; conservative things. Not even far right conservatism; conservatism about 60% of the country agrees with for murder and probably more for rape (Most Americans Favor the Death Penalty Despite Concerns About Its Administration | Pew Research Center).
But to you, I'm a leftist (even though I'm not), so you will disagree with everything I say and I've come to expect that.
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@Mall
Well out of all of Trump's 34 convictions, please state why they are all wrong. If even one of them is correct, then Trump doesn't belong running for POTUS because felons should be banned from office.
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I believe in something similar to race and IQ.
People from South Central tend to have higher IQs than people from Venice Beach.
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@FLRW
While technically correct, it shouldn't matter.
Donald Trump could be 100% Native American in a country 90% Native American and support the same policies he does now. He would still be wrong on the issue.
Anyone should be allowed to live in any country they choose to.
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@Mall
Yes; they did the studying on the issue and I didn't.
The people on the jury got approved by both the prosecution and Trump's lawyers.
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@WyIted
Who cares if your family doesn't endorse you? I wouldn't endorse my sister if she ran for POTUS; she's borderline socialist. I also wouldn't endorse my brother; he believes rape victims that get abortions should spend the rest of their life in jail. My mom and dad both believe some things that don't make sense; they want to deport undocumented immigrants and give them free healthcare.
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Deportations should not exist under any circumstances.
"But what if they murder/rape?"
Then you behead them, take their blood and organs, and use it to save the lives of American PATRIOTS!! However, the vast majority of the undocumented are harmless and should be treated as such.
High slope ideology is ideal regardless of what the feds want:
Note: I'm posted this comment several times and YouTube felt like taking it down. I don't like that, but there is nothing I can do to stop them. Being pro death penalty is hate speech according to the YouTube algorithm. Not that I'm against their right to censor me; because it's a product of the free market (which YouTube controls). But they let white nationalists utter racist stuff but they won't let me say murderers should get beheaded. It makes no sense.
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@Wylted
I have never had a relative run for president, but I can imagine if I did ai would endorse them even if the openly supported nuclear war.
If my sister ran for POTUS, then she's a hardcore leftist; I'm not backing her. Gavin Newsom's son doesn't endorse him and neither does Ted Cruz'es daughter.
The Kennedys are major pieces of shits and as a Democrat, I encourage my fellow democrats to Vote RFK to return common sense liberal values to the white house.
I try and be a fair dude. RFK is against the vax mandates; so am I.
But RFK has a double standard with Israel and Ukraine that I don't like. He preaches, "anti war" to justify Ukraine isolationism but doesn't apply that same mentality to Israel.
I'm anti war and America first on Israel and Ukraine; I support isolationism.
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@Mall
Do you just believe something that was written by somebody?
Depends on what it is. If it’s whether or not Person A did something everyone believes should be banned, then I trust the jury. If it’s whether or not what Person A did should be legal, I tend to have seperate opinions on it from the trial (not always, but often).
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@3RU7AL
guilty of what though
I heard one of the charges was he stiffed his workers for one of his businesses. He also committed adultery with a porn star while his wife was pregnant with their kid. I heard he even committed the R word. He has 34 felonies. Maybe those are some of them.
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@Wylted
No, IQ is inherent intelligence not a measure of knowledge. Education has no effect
Then why does NY and CT have higher IQs than TN and TX?
This is how I know you are not smart. It doesn't make you a lesser person. You just aren't smart.
Haters gotta hate, but there is no official definition of smart. It can be any scale you want. It doesn’t even have to be consistent.
The average IQ is 100. Now if you eliminate low IQ people like retards. The average maybe jumps to 110.
And if you eliminate geniuses, the average may go down to 90. IQ distribution is symmetric.
Eliminate blacks from the pool and average the remaining IQs and it may shift to 120.
Eliminate anyone from a poorly funded school and you would get a shift. I’ve met white people from Bridgeport that I would consider to be ghetto. They were 14 and their body count was at 4. That’s some ghetto stuff right there; all a product of poorly funded schools.
If your IQ is below 145, you my friend are either mildly stupid or a complete retards.
With this standard, pretty much everyone is a retard.
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My rule is that whatever the jury says, I believe.
The jury found Kyle Rittenhouse innocent, I believe that.
The jury found Andrew Tate innocent, I believe that.
The jury found Donald Trump guilty, I believe that.
Nobody here was reviewing all of the facts and evidence about Trump's charges; the jury was.
I believed in innocent until proven guilty, but iff you are proven guilty by a jury of your peers, then you are guilty.
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@FLRW
Looks like we are both living long then. We both are smart people, as is I believe everyone on this site regularly (smart being defined as IQ above 100).
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KKK: Only a fool thinks the people that built Europe will benefit from people that built hutts.
Me: Only a fool thinks the people that built Manhattan, Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam Counties will benefit from people that built trailer parks; but here you are. I'm not worried about low IQ trailer park trash replacing Westchester residents because we have this useful tool that converts stupid trailer park people into smart people; it's called public education and well funded schools funded by high taxes. That keeps our IQ pretty high.
Maybe Alabama should copy NY to increase the IQ of the people there. Maybe the UN should give teachers worldwide a subsidy if they bilingually immerse their kids in the local language and English and the kids get an incentive to move outside of their language zone, find someone from a different language zone, live in a totally different language zone, and have 3 kids with them. Those kids would have English be their primary language.
More money for public education + time -> higher population IQ.
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