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@IwantRooseveltagain
It’s stuff like this that makes me independent and not conservative. I’m pro life, I oppose vaccine mandates, I am pro death penalty for murderers and rapists, and I want looser gun control, but I’m not a conservative because I also have many left wing beliefs and conservative politicians are hypocrites.
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@Best.Korea
Polytheist wasn’t a troll; she was probably far left. A troll defends rape. She from my experience hated anyone that is pro life. She was far left, not a troll.
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@Intelligence_06
Press X to doubt.
I’m not a hardcore liberal or conservative. I think for myself.
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@Intelligence_06
Occasionally maybe with the extra hot ones, but we are all taught to suppress these kinds of urges to not act it out.
We are also taught to not be racist.
Black people are less rich in general
The black per capita income is comparable to the white Canadian per capita income. Blacks are doing fine in America.
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@Intelligence_06
Looks like shitting on conservatives is another reason why you are not considered a great political speaker here.
I shit on both sides.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Liberal Logic:Republicans: Mr. President, we have a crisis at the border please helpLiberals: No, we won't because doing that would be racist.Republicans: Well, can you at least take a look?Liberals: No, because we don't care. And as a matter of fact, open them borders, and let all the immigrants come through.Republicans: Oh great, now we have an even bigger problem.
I do not believe that not having open borders is racist. It’s just too authoritarian; the more taxpayers we can get in America, the better. If republican counties aren’t fine with accepting the undocumented, that’s fine, the left counties can accept them.
I’m not a liberal; I’m an independent. I’m pro life and I oppose vaccine mandates and I think murderers and rapists deserve the death penalty. I think we need looser gun laws. I also don’t like ICE, I think trans women should be classified as women if they pass as female, I support renewable energy, and I’m anti war. I’m a mixed bag, like Joe Rogan.
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@Double_R
And who are these “Cuba lovers”?
Anyone that wants to turn the US into Cuba. Basically communists. Not Bernie Sanders supporters; not AOC supporters. But instead, the tiny portion of the US that thinks Cuba is a good place to live.
I am aware of no serious political figure who advocates for a Cuban style society nor have I observed this sentiment within any significant portion of the American electorate.
Gloria de la riva. Not AOC; she just wants Medicare for all; I don’t agree with her on it, but the people that live in countries with Medicare for all like it, so Medicare for all supporters won’t be sent to Cuba. It would be the communists and all the people that want America to be communist that would get sent to Cuba.
It sounds like an entirely made up phenomenon.
It’s not; I’ve met multiple people on the internet that I would send to Cuba, 2 of whom I know personally. Cuba will give them free food, clothing, healthcare, and housing. Be sure not to criticize the government though, or else you will be jailed and maybe killed. America is where woke goes to die.
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The Trump mob: We believe in small government and that fathers should stick with the families they create.
Me (a normal person): So are you against ICE? They are big government and they increase the single motherhood rate?
Conservatives: Absolutely not; expand the government for ICE, let them create more single motherhood, and fuck any sort of consistency.
Me: It’s shit like this that prevents me from being a republican.
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The radial left: “It’s so unfair that women were legally raped by men all the way up until the 1970s. We need to give every woman millions of dollars based on rapes that other women endured.”
Me: Giving every woman $2 million based on hundreds of years of rape would cost about $320 trillion. That is 50x higher than the US federal budget.
The radical left: Doesn’t matter; pay up your bigot!
If you think this is crazy, this is what I think of giving black people millions of dollars for slavery.
Me: Giving every woman $2 million based on hundreds of years of rape would cost about $320 trillion. That is 50x higher than the US federal budget.
The radical left: Doesn’t matter; pay up your bigot!
If you think this is crazy, this is what I think of giving black people millions of dollars for slavery.
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@zedvictor4
Where did you get that nonsense from?
On that basis there would probably be reasons for kicking all member States out of NATO, including the US.
America can deal with being kicked out of NATO, we got 400 million guns in our country. Foreign troops land in the south, there will be pickup trucks and Nascars heading down I95. Military shows up, nothing but beer cans and shotgun shells. No country will invade America with as many guns as what we have in this country.
Though, if a child is misgendered,* then an error must have occurred and therefore must be dealt with appropriately. Which in the UK is unlikely to result in a custodial sentence.
Misgendering trans people is not only free speech, it’s common speech. Jailing the majority of the country that doesn’t believe in transgender theory is a nonstarter.
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@Double_R
I remembered him. In any decently run universe, Roy Moore would have his head chopped off for child rape.
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@RationalMadman
How am I clueless? You’re probably not one of the people that would get sent to Cuba. And now you know why I consider myself an independent and not a left winger. Trump is a horrible sexual assaulter that has no place in the Oval Office, but all Cuba lovers should get sent to Cuba and all Cuba hating Cubans should get sent to America.
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@ludofl3x
And are you really for forced relocation of Americans based on what, a committee (comprised of: TBD)'s assessment of your ideology? Can you please illuminate the zeal with which one can 'defend' Cuba without getting forcibly relocated? What's the due process look like? Or are we just scrapping all American ideals and deciding "You liked a pro-Cuba post on facebook you faggity commy lib, hope you enjoy toiling on old cars and rolling cigars" is our overall domestic policy?
Anyone that prefers Cuba to America, let them go to Cuba. They prefer it there, so I imagine they would consent. Any Cuban that prefers economic freedom to the opposite of economic freedom (aka communism) can come here. We will appreciate them and their red votes.
Countries have forced people to move throughout history; the British forced Acadians to move to Louisiana, the Germans in the sudetenland were forced to move to Germany after WWII. There is a historical precedent for this.
I think it can work out wonderfully; Cuba gets woke adults that love communism and helping out the poor and America gets freedom lovers.
Edit: I'm curious what country you think all of the anti-democracy conservatives should be forced to go live in.
There aren’t too many anti democracy conservatives. Some don’t think Biden won the election, but this is not the same. I think Biden won and that Trump is a piece of shit, but the communists that prefer Cuba to America can move to Cuba. It’s tropical, it has a low infant mortality rate, it has a life expectancy slightly higher than America’s. It’s a communist’s wet dream. Once they relieve how terrible communism is, once a majority of the Cuban residents vote for American annexation, America will be happy to annex them, once they learn how evil communism is, we got more freedom lovers in America.
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I think the following deal should be made between America and Cuba.
Cuba gives us every single Cuban that wants to flee communism and censorship (probably the majority).
In exchange, America gives Cuba an equal number of pro communist Americans. Note being part of ANY of the following groups of people:
1) People that don’t like Trump
2) People that like Medicare for all
3) People that like Bernie Sanders
Just being in any group out of what is above doesn’t make you egilable for forced relocation. It takes a defender of the Cuban regime to warrant forced relocation to Cuba. And I’ve met people that defend Cuba. They love Cuba because their infant mortality rate is 4 per 1000 whereas America’s is 8 per 1000 and that Cuba has a higher life expectancy.
If you value QUANTITY of life over all else even if it’s slight, this makes sense. But most Americans (and most normal people) would rather live 6 months less and have their infant have an extra .4% chance of dying if their income quintuples and their kid is significantly less likely to live in poverty and extreme poverty (Cuba has a lot of poverty). Quality of life matters just like quantity.
But the hardcore ideologue communists (doesn’t include your typical Bernie Sanders supporter) don’t see it that way even though over 95% of America does. This is fine for them, they get to go to Cuba and live there. They would help make Cuba a multicultural paradise, with Anglos and Latinos, and the Cubans that move here would assilimination and learn English.
I think this is a win for everyone involved.
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@RationalMadman
Possible. How can a homeless guy afford to give a woman a good time? He’s broke.
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@oromagi
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm states although the rape rate decreased after Keneddy v Louisiana, it was falling before 2008, the year the Supreme Court passed it. After Coker V Georgia in 1972, the rape rate skyrocketed. Rapists deserve their head chopped off.
If a policy is working successfully to greatly decrease crime, why mess with it?
Getting rid of the death penalty for rape increased the rape rate and my main argument for killing them is I don’t want taxpayers to spend $27 billion a year taking care of murderers and rapists. Use that money to give our teachers a $9000/year raise. Invest in our kids!
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@TWS1405_2
Colion Noir is a first generation immigrant who realizes what made America great. We need more people like him in this country.
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@RationalMadman
Some homeless people are fun. Others aren’t. But girls want economic security, and the homeless can’t provide that.
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Convicted rapists and murderers deserve the death penalty because I don’t want the government spending $27 billion taking care of horrible people. Spend that money giving our teachers a raise.
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@Sidewalker
The fact that a single congress person can get a bill to impeach a house representative is funny to me. But it’s what you expect from Matt Gaetz. I predict McCarthy does one left wing thing and the right wing squad will vote to impeach him. Cancel culture at its finest.
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@Reece101
Why do you care if bees are vaccinated?
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@RationalMadman
How so? And what group are you referring too?
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@RationalMadman
That’s possible. But do you see that many women willing to marry a homeless guy? No; women want stability, and that includes economic stability. The poor can’t provide economic stability. So women probably want a guy with a good personality that’s also rich (or at least middle class). Trump (whether you love him or hate him) has a personality some people love. So some women would be into that.
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@Double_R
I still do; I don’t agree with the left 100% of the time, just 51%. The people that agree with the right or left 100% of the time aren’t thinking for themselves. The people that agree with the left between 25 and 75% of the time are.
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@RationalMadman
I know; I give them credit here. But they shouldn’t be pragmatic with undocumented immigration; they should be ideologue and advocate for open borders for the counties that want it. If the undocumented don’t want to settle in rural Wyoming because rural Wyoming won’t take them; that’s fine; they can settle in NYC and Boston.
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@zedvictor4
I'm assuming that the USA has some sort of social care system, similar to the UK's.
America probably gives their parents more parental rights than in the UK. The UK jails you for misgendering; they need to be kicked out of NATO because of it. NATO is a freedom alliance, and jailing people for political speech is not freedom.
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@RationalMadman
I may have blocked you years ago in protest to you blocking me, but your not blocked anymore.
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@RationalMadman
You couldn’t tag me if I blocked you. I don’t like it when democrats or republicans deport the undocumented. I’m an independent now, remember?
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@YouFound_Lxam
You can't support abortion and support conservative values at the same time.
You can be pro choice (while wanting abortion to be free) and pro back the blue, pro secure borders, against the vaccine mandate, pro America first, not want transwomen in women’s sports, and whatever other right wing current things are. None of these issues are connected to each other.
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@YouFound_Lxam
What do you mean?
I’m not claiming it’s about money. It’s about tribalism. If planned parenthood said a bunch of right wing slogans and stated a bunch of right wing opinions, the right would back them. They backed Herschel Walker who paid for an abortion because he said a bunch of right wing stuff.
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Biden is keeping Title 42 in place, which are deportations.
In my America, nobody is getting kicked out of the country. If the migrant is on welfare, we kick them off; strongly pressure them to get a job. If the migrant rapes or murders, we chop their head off in the middle of Times Square; let the socialists in NYC protest the death penalty of rapists, but do it anyways because we aren’t having tax dollars feed the men that rape or murder.
Let every household decide for themselves whether or not to accept undocumented immigrants; if the undocumented immigrant is a father, the household will accept them. Don’t let the counties decide; let families decide for themselves if they want an undocumented immigrant in their house or not. This is called parental rights and family values. I don’t want undocumented dads abandoning the kids they create through reckless sexual habits. If they produce a kid in America, then they should be forced by the state to raise the kid they create in America or pay child support and get sterilized if they decide to be a deadbeat dad.
The claim that the undocumented will take jobs from the native born citizen: Population growth in the US has NEVER led to the unemployment rate rising significantly. It doesn’t matter if this population growth was because of births, documented immigration or undocumented immigration. Population growth is not correlated with the unemployment rate.
The claim that the undocumented won’t be vaccinated against COVID: I don’t care if they got the jab. The government under no circumstances should violate the right to refuse to get vaccinated against a disease with a .1% death rate. End this authoritarian socialism.
Let’s Go Brandon. Fuck Joe Biden.
But let me know what y’all think. I don’t block. I believe in small government to a very big degree.
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@oromagi
That’s a good point, but I think it’s at least possible that some women would be cool with dating someone because of their money and power. Women are attracted to powerful men.
As long as it’s consent and not coercion, it’s legal. But yeah, Trump pisses me off for adultery. I got so deep in the hype. I don’t know why.
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@oromagi
The part that made me think it was consensual:
And when you’re a star, they let you do it.
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I never thought this would happen, but according to my own spreadsheet, I agree with the left over 50% of the time now.
Here is the spreadsheet:
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@oromagi
Trump is a sexual assaulter who openly bragged of doing to women what Schlapp did that staffer.
Trump bragged about getting consensual pussy grabs. You can consensually grab someone’s vagina. Although it’s adultery, it was a long time ago and I believe adultery should be punished with lashings and rehabilitation.
Trump was friends and neighbors with Epstein for 15 years. Epstein threw parties for Trump where it was just the two of them alone with 30 girls. At least one 13 year old claims to have been raped by both men.
Give Trump a trial; if he is found guilty of child rape, cut his head off. But innocent until proven guilty.
Schlapp is accussed of one grope and you're ready to condemn, Trump has at least 26 credible accusers- most far worse than a simple grope - so why isn't your opinion as at least as bad as Schlapp?
That’s a good point actually. I’ll have to update my spreadsheet.
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@zedvictor4
It’s sustainable. If you want a kid, you provide for them. The state does not get to decide what happens to our kids; parents do. Parental rights matter. Black Parental Rights matter. All Parental rights matter.
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@zedvictor4
A factory farmed populace would be adopted, reared and educated by an atheist State. (Religion illogical and divisive).
I don’t want my tax dollars paying for other people’s kids, and people have the right to be religious.
Authoritarian is just telling people what to do within a social system. In essence, no different to what we endure now.
There are forms of justified authoritarianism like anti murder and anti rape laws. Forcing people to adopt and pay for other people’s kids is unjustified authoritarianism.
A new system would not necessarily need to be any more or less oppressive than what we endure now.It might turn out to be less so. Especially if education is consistent
Turning all kids to the state is too authoritarian and parental rights matter. We aren’t turning America into Beijing.
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@RationalMadman
I wouldn’t call myself a left winger; I would call myself an independent (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1am8aMPQnpDifFbaMqpXHXGD6V72ly0Yvcvfd9ksFEko/edit). If Biden faces Trump or DeSantis, I’m voting for Trump or DeSantis because of the stock market. If Bernie runs against Trump or DeSantis, I’m voting for Sanders because he is not curropt. I want our politicians to represent we the people and not we the corporations.
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@K_Michael
Taking a political stance on anything outside of that field would be a failure of their mission statement, just as NRA should not have an opinion outside of protecting the 2nd Amendment.
If the NRA ended up saying left wing things in addition to pro 2A stuff, like if they quoted Karl Marx when he said, “Under no pretext shall the firearms be surrendered”, then since the right is more tribal than the left, the right would start to equate gun control with communism. Then the right would stop funding communist NRA. The NRA has to be right wing to keep the only support they can get. The NRA won’t get much left wing support outside of the socialists if they start saying, “Armed black people are harder to get killed by the police” or, “Armed undocumented families are harder to separate”. And since socialists are less common than republicans in America, the NRA would lose power.
Planned Parenthood is a global organization. It definitionally cannot be isolationist.
America’s planned parenthood chapter can be in order to appeal to isolationist right wingers.
This is factually incorrect. The government has been mandating vaccines since George Washington.
Planned parenthood can be vocal about how they don’t want vaccine mandates because, “my body, my choice”.
Conservatives just hate abortions that much,
If that was true, then they wouldn’t have voted for Herschel Walker who paid for an abortion. Conservatives don’t care if you have paid for or have had an abortion as long as you h call yourself a Republican and lean into right wing talking points. For democrats, this is less true. There may be some corporate dems that call planned parenthood out on saying right wing stuff, but then conservatives would be praising planned parenthood.
any attempts to align with the right would be met with hostility and accusations of lies (which they would be)
How is it a lie? Surely you can be a woman that has gotten several abortions that is right wing on several other areas besides abortion. Since the right is tribial, they would back planned parenthood.
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@Greyparrot
Planned Parenthood doesn't care about "being accepted"They care about money. And there is only one path for money in today's government.
If planned parenthood is accepted by both parties, it’s easier to get more money from the government.
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@YouFound_Lxam
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@Sidewalker
To define the Dakotas, you have to use the term Montana. To define the term Montana, you have to use Dakota. It’s circular.
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@Greyparrot
There are competing interests with both the left and right.
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Matt Schlapp gropes a guy’s crotch without his consent. Now, he is innocent until proven guilty, but if he is found guilty, the conservatives should fire him for this. He is an adulterer. He is a sexual assaulter. He is gay (I don’t judge him for this, but the right wing base does). But I hate sexual assaulters and I hate cheaters. They need to be lashed 100x. Family values people. Same thing with Herschel Walker. He preaches pro life things, but he paid for a woman’s abortion that he got pregnant. He has had 4 different kids with 4 different women; wasn’t in the house raising one of them. And the right still voted for the guy because he calls himself a Republican. If the republican candidate was proven to be a child rapist, most right wingers would back him simply because he is a Republican. This happened with Roy Moore vs Doug Jones. In Underdog land, child rapists no matter their party would get their head cut off, not be in public office.
Family values my fucking ass.
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@Greyparrot
I respect those feminists for thinking for themselves. But they aren’t what the left wing base wants them to be. They also aren’t what the right wing base wants them to be. If planned parenthood said a bunch of right wing things for long enough as long as they stood their ground on abortion (and they state that they are proud of Kid Rock who has paid for an abortion before while being loved by the right wing base), then the right would back them just like the left.
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@YouFound_Lxam
If you’re going to define the Dakotas as being between various other piracies of land, I could define those other pieces of land as being bordered by the Dakotas, making the definition circular. It would be like if I defined Montana as:
“A state bordered by Wyoming, Idaho, Canada, and the Dakotas”. This makes a definition circular.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Dakotas:Two states, in the USA, that are bordered by Canada, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, and Minnesota.
If you define the Dakotas in this way, you would also have to define Montana as a state that borders a bunch of states, including North and South Dakota to be consistent. This is a circular definition, which you claim isn’t good. I however, think circular definitions if you go far enough can be unavoidable.
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@zedvictor4
I think having the best among us breed would make America a better place, but it seems too authoritarian to force people that aren’t deadbeat parents to not be able to reproduce. I don’t want biological kids, but 95% of America does. It would also mean you would have to force people to adopt, which also seems very authoritarian.
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