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1. No longer post vote removal notices on FF or conceded debates2. No longer post vote remove notices on FF, troll, or conceded debates
This was a ridiculous burden you imposed on yourself in the first place, so I'm not exactly impressed with your "openness" to undoing that.
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@bsh1
How about a suggestion box for forum moderation?
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@1harderthanyouthink
There is no potential for constructive discussion with Bsh1. It always ends in "agree to disagree." He refuses to budge from his views on moderation policy. He will never consent to any moderation policy that is significantly less strict than the current one. Replacing him is the only viable option.
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@thett3
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@1harderthanyouthink
You're clearly rejecting Bsh1's vision of moderation for being too strict. And we all know Bsh1 is never going to change that vision. This is how he's always been and always will be. I urge you to consider explicitly voting to replace him.
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@1harderthanyouthink
I don't really like the way the mod position was established and introduced. I think there'd be less shit if the site was left in a laissez-faire state for longer, and moderation rules were stipulated before appointing a single mod. That would have allowed for community input without creating a dramatic cause of dissent that results in instability.
100% agreed. Arbitrarily going with Bsh1's vision of moderation was a terrible idea.
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@1harderthanyouthink
So, you want to turn the mod position into a quasi-Presidency? Everytime you disagree with the mod philosophy you overthrow them with a new one? Eh. I'm not voting - at least not now.
One of the core functions of the Presidency (in theory) was to serve as a check on moderation via popular vote. So yes.
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@Imabench
I counted your vote as is, but just FYI, the moderator basically controls moderation policy. Bsh1 wrote much of the current policy himself. So this poll is essentially over whether or not you'd like to see more lax moderation generally.
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I won't include the votes of banned members, because then I'd also have to include the votes of the moderators. Clear conflicts of interest in both cases.
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@drafterman
The site owner says he is responsive to popular opinion, and this poll helps him see where popular opinion is at. You should vote to ensure its accuracy.
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@thett3
@BezosFuturist
@drafterman
@ResurgetExFavilla
Thanks all for proving me right about the silent supporters that the dissenters are ignoring the population-size of when saying everyone hates bsh1.
Vote.
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@Mopac
Someone who joined the forum not even 3 days ago is already trying to overthrow the order of things. I don't think that makes sense.
As Thett indicated, I'm incredibly smart and a very quick learner.
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@YeshuaBought
You don't have to justify yourself. The point of the poll is to honestly assess how the site's userbase feels about this issue. Thanks for voting :)
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I feel bad for arguing with someone who is so clearly mentally disabled.
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There we go again with the false equivocation. Reciprocating a block is not the same as initiating a block.
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There is clearly a meaningful difference between the two. If you can't see why, that's your problem.
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It is incredibly dishonest to equate
"I'm indifferent to the whether or not you change the status quo"
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"I support the status quo."
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Yes... I'm trying to get an idea of how many people actually care one way or the other.
Also, unblock me, you fucking bitch.
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Please indicate if you agree, disagree, or have no opinion:
Bsh1 should be replaced as chief mod by someone who has a more lax approach to moderation.
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You're such a loser, dude 😂
Imagine thinking "OOOO YOU BROKE THE RULES" is a sick burn.
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This is so sad. RM is going insane. Again. And he's gonna end up getting perma-banned. Again.
History repeats itself.
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@Logical-Master
Or less rule enforcement. For the most part, I think users here can police themselves in the current forum climate. They shouldn't even waste time moderating a fully forfeited debate. And unless a user is flooding/spamming the forums, posting pictures/links to obscene images or doing anything else that seriously and reasonable interferes with most of the other members' ability to enjoy the site, they shouldn't get involved.
I endorse this.
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^ couldn't tag RM because he blocked me after PMing me an insult... I guess he was scared of the response?
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worth noting that most of those users almost never post, whereas the people who have a problem with the mods are actually active on a regular basis
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I don't ignore you, I just can't handle all of the comments here at the same time without loosing context.
Fine. I apologize for misjudging your motives.
Okay, let's imagine I just say fuck it and make you or drafterman a mod, can you imagine what shit storm RM would start? He would make it his life mission to remove you and drafterman from the mods position. And nothing would change, people will always complain.
Drafterman is a reasonable choice as a mod. He's clearly demonstrated the seriousness, attentiveness, and willingness needed to do the job.
I already conceded that no mod can please everyone. But some mods clearly please more people than others. I think RM throwing a shit storm is better than more than half the site throwing a shit storm (as is currently the case).
But if to be serious, I do think that the current mods do rather a good work, they are not perfect but nobody is or could ever be anyway.
You don't think the tendency to overreach is a problem?
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@DebateArt.com
I try not to go against the users if there is a way to avoid that.
If this is true, then you should take my suggestion seriously. I don't expect you to make me a mod after the ruckus I've caused on this site. But you should definitely make Drafterman a mod (if not outright replace Bsh1 with him).
Regardless of my history, though, there's no excuse for blatantly ignoring me like you're doing right now. Don't be an asshole.
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@RationalMadman
You are never going to be a mod.Tyrone and drafterman would be among the first I'd ban as mod.
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@DebateArt.com
I see Drafter has volunteered as well. So don't pretend that Bsh1 and Virtuoso are the only options. There is obviously a shit ton of discontent over their moderation style. If you care about being responsive to the concerns of your site's user base, then you can easily make a change to the moderation team.
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@DebateArt.com
I would gladly take on the responsibility of being a moderator.
And yes, it's true that no moderator can please everyone. But some moderators come much closer to doing so than others. Bsh1 has managed to piss of a majority of this site despite it having like 10 active members. I'm confident that I and many others could do better than that.
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@DebateArt.com
Are you at all open to the idea of removing Bsh1 as moderator?
Has nothing he's done concerned you even a little?
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Amen. The current moderation team is blatantly incompetent.
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@DebateArt.com
Appoint TheHammer as Bsh1's replacement. He would make an excellent mod.
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@DebateArt.com
Removing Bsh1 as mod would increase the number of users substantially.
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@DebateArt.com
Right now we have like 10 users, with 2/3 of them being trouble-makers.
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@Tyronebiggs
Rap battles are for bitches. Street fighting is the way to go.
I am the superior black man.
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@ArgentTongue
"Heated and difficult" is okay with me.
These restrictions are unnecessary, and anyone who supports them is objectively wrong.
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@Polytheist-Witch
You seriously need to get laid.
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