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@SirAnonymous
Careful. He has 3 people starting. Most have 1 or 2 playing, some with 0. Wouldn't jump to any conclusions. But yeah David Johnson and Patty Mahomes are helping him a lot
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It's not throwing shade because concession is bad for mafia on this site because it is objectively lazy. I'm not calling you lazy, but the action itself lazy, and condemning the action, not the playerIf people want to concede, let them. I didn't even care that mafia quit your game, I just thought it was silly that they blamed you for it. Who cares? Their loss.
Fair, but it is still detrimental
I was a lean town on you, so I wouldn't have went through with it depending on why died and such. Again, you had a chance to win, even if it was small, and I get why you forfeited the game. It still isn't the best thing to do because it is bad. The action is bad.You can't just say something is bad for the sake of being bad, you have to explain why its bad. I don't think the noobies care all too much, and not every game is going to be a concession.
I've said my reason, it is because it promotes lazy behavior in the game, ruins the game for the host who put the time in to make the mafia. Those are my reasons. Feel free to disagree, but then I guess we don't see eye to eye then
You didn't even get the idea from Naruto mafia? I find that hard to believe lolAre you saying I didn't know it was possible to concede prior to your game lmao? That's beyond ridiculous lol. I actually had another game on DDO where mafia was fvcked so hard after losing two team mates quickly, where we had to mislynch 5 times to win, and I encouraged my partner who was the sole survivor to concede there too. He actually somehow pulled it off, but yeah I definitely would have conceded in that one. Way too much work for win. Sometimes I will go through with it depending on the circumstances though.
I've haven't played mafia for as long as you have, so I never saw it in a major game before
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@Lunatic
You didn't even get the idea from Naruto mafia? I find that hard to believe lol
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@Lunatic
No you are not doomed as scum, you are just lazy. You have a very high probability of winning if NP actions are done correctly and you play smart. If you believe you have no chance at winning that means your play as town has not been good enough to warrant you being alive in the DP. Play strategically. A good example of a good scum is Speedrace. I specifically remember him losing his scum partner in DP1 and DP2 two times, and coming back to win the game? You wanna know how, by fucking playing smartThis was 100% directed at me, don't try to claim it wasn't lol. The whole thing is ridiculous anyway, you come from the position of being able to win after mafia just lost two.
No it isn't and it wasn't. This was mostly about Bear and Ragnar after Pie was the lynch because they felt they were doomed when they weren't. I did say I felt you could have won, but your case is understandable. I had no idea what you were saying in your scum chat, but I know in theirs, they acted like this was the end of the world when it wasn't. All they had to do was play smart and they would've won. Your case was more hopeless, and I said that. This was not directly aimed at you in anyway. Only part is concession being bad, which I will stand by concession is still bad in general. Your case was more understandable
And most of it is hypothetical. The quote itself no one ever said lmao, so idk where that notion came from
Of course you would want the game to keep going lol. Or you are making it seem like you care more than you actually do just to throw shade.
It's not throwing shade because concession is bad for mafia on this site because it is objectively lazy. I'm not calling you lazy, but the action itself lazy, and condemning the action, not the player
Regardless your acting like an idiot, and I don't regret my decision of quitting in that game.
You don't have to.
We had everything going for us, and two simple mistakes from people who were new (so it's understandable) made the game an uphill battle for no reason.
I said I understood why
It's okay, and the noobs will learn from the experience, but sitting there and trying to mislynch 3 times when town still had almost all their power roles didn't seem like it was worth the effort.
I understand the argument, again.
You guys probably would have caught me by POE and if I had succesfully led two mislynches prior to that just to get POE lynched, I would have wasted a lot of time. Town won it fair and square, but you seriously need to get off your high horse when you were the one in the winning position.
I was a lean town on you, so I wouldn't have went through with it depending on why died and such. Again, you had a chance to win, even if it was small, and I get why you forfeited the game. It still isn't the best thing to do because it is bad. The action is bad.
My goal is not to ride the high horse of "look at me," "wow, standing up for something." My goal is to help mafia become better just like you do. We both have the same agenda, yet here we are.
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I'm not calling out anybody either. I'm saying this behavior is in general bad for DART mafia
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@Lunatic
The town win was legit for your case because good town play led to forfeit. Naruto's game was a bullshit excuse with decent town play. And cmon, you seriously are gonna deny that Naruto Mafia didn't influence you to concede?
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@Lunatic
I wasn't necessarily calling you out because you admitted to it being no motive to do it, which I get. You actually try to help the site with mafia, so it isn't a big deal. But it still isn't the best behavior to encourage good play IMO no matter what. The whole other situation is what I most referring to
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@Lunatic
It's lazy and bad for mafia in general. You did say that the site is being lazy with mafia. Conceding a game in general is lazy behavior and is negative for mafia on the site. It's just an objective fact. Yes you can do what you want, but it destroys the quality of mafia on the site. We also have new people, so they may get used to the bad habits set in the place
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"MAFIA HAS NO WAY TO WIN THIS GAME!"
"SO BASTARD MOD! WE LOSE! WAAA WAAA."
RANT
To the new players who joined cuz of Naruto, I am sorry that 3 games have gone to shit, with 2 being concession and 1 with a bad setup, but it's time to go out and make this post.
To the new players who joined cuz of Naruto, I am sorry that 3 games have gone to shit, with 2 being concession and 1 with a bad setup, but it's time to go out and make this post.
Stop fucking conceding.
"But Supa, we are doomed if we lose ____."
No you are not doomed as scum, you are just lazy. You have a very high probability of winning if NP actions are done correctly and you play smart. If you believe you have no chance at winning that means your play as town has not been good enough to warrant you being alive in the DP. Play strategically. A good example of a good scum is Speedrace. I specifically remember him losing his scum partner in DP1 and DP2 two times, and coming back to win the game? You wanna know how, by fucking playing smart
"This game is so bastard, OMG, *rage quits*"
Well someone needs there diaper changed. What is quitting the game gonna do besides anger the mod? The mod will simply not care and not improve because of your stupid decisions. You take your concerns to the endgame and the mod will take that advice much better than you trying to make a statement, like LeBron James. You are making yourself look ignorant and lazy over something so simple
FUTURE
You know you now set an example for shitty play as mafia as well. It is fairly obvious we have new players who are playing mafia and wants to genuinely play a full game without your dumb bullshit. You are not only ruining the experience of a genuine town win for town, but you lead noobs into bad behavior as scum and have easy metas. We know there are lazy players on mafia, and we know it's an issue. But countering lazy for lazy is simply not the solution to fixing issues
That's all. Enjoy
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This is so easy. Oro is making a read off Skittlez's claimed role. Skittlez claimed the exact justification given and I claimed his visit and didn't die. This means Skittlez is town if I did not die from the visit. The logic behind Intel and Oro is bandwagon scummy
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@oromagi
They is skittlez. It is not plural. I don't know if they are a boy or girl. I'm assuming boy, but it's 2020 and I don't wanna be bitched at. These are bad generalizations you are making
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@drafterman
Might be tonight because Mharman screwed up his game
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@Intelligence_06
Can you not fucking read? Look at what he claimed Skittlez
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@Intelligence_06
And what's inconsistent is your logic. It's been so bandwagon, dog shit, horrible, that it's so anti town. You should've been lynched by now if this wasn't a bastard game
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@Intelligence_06
It's not my role dumbass. It's skittlez role
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Such bullshit. This is so ass. There's no reason to. It's a bastard game and Oro acting like it isn't. Mharman admitted balance is off. Plus Skittlez never disclosed the role.
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@SirAnonymous
I got a notification from Mharman telling me that he did
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Pie probs got killed by Ninja. Skittlez is town. I got visited by them and didn't die
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I took note into claiming vanilla is scummy so I'll claim vanilla. I don't it at all
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@oromagi
Interesting, I am a vanilla as well. My role is Hidden Twists and my just is nothing to see here. Since there is nothing, I am a vanilla townie
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@Intelligence_06
I joined the site in 2018 when it was first founded. I enjoyed the DDO community a lot and was an active poster there before the site fell. I enjoy talking to people as well and debating people. Also mafia takes up, like, 1,000-2,000 posts
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@skittlez09
Because there are so many types of food it's hard to label food as simply food
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So here we are, the first member of the site to reach 10,000 forum posts. I joined this site 2 years ago and have already done some crazy things. So cheers! I’ve met some great people here, from Speedrace, to Lunatic, to iLikePie, to oromagi, the moderators, RM, Press, Disc, SirAnon, Water, bsh1, Chris… so many more I could say. It’s been a great honor to be able to converse with y’all about certain topics and be a part of this community. I want to celebrate this achievement by doing something special, a chain of events. This is the first step in what I call, the 10k Celebration! This will be a series of threads that will have some community interaction involved and be interesting
The first part is an AMA (lol), Feel free to ask me any questions you would like in this thread
The first part is an AMA (lol), Feel free to ask me any questions you would like in this thread
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@MisterChris
He didn't even lose a life
*surprised Pikachu face*
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@sadolite
So you're gonna deny scientific research and just say "LOL stupid research." Doesn't seem like the best idea
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@SirAnonymous
I see him as more anti-town IMO, which leads to him being scummy
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@SirAnonymous
I would disagree. Anti town is usually scummy in a lot of aspects. Anti town goals are scum goals IMO. Bad town =/= anti town
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@SirAnonymous
Fair but sometimes it becomes so prevalent it's anti town
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@Dr.Franklin
I will try to get debate up by tomorrow
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