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Before I Move On: Project by SupaDudz
Dear Family of DART

I've been suspiciously quiet about a lot about my music projects that I've been working on. This is for the followings reasons

1) Most people on the site do not like the type of music that I enjoy making. There is a fear factor to play when announcing something that most people do not like
2) I am still learning about everything, so I am still new to mixxing, and writting, and autotune. I wan't to get better at this

So with this, I have a couple of announcements to make. My first ever project called "Before I Move On" is officially out on streaming platforms of SoundCloud and YouTube and is coming soon to Spotify and Apple Music. This YouTube Channel I have set up takes you to my links to everywhere I post music on. 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBWM1ML9bkrzcWKfu6dbNQQ?view_as=subscriber

Also, my first ever single, Townsboy, is out on every streaming service. You can find the links to that with the channel

While I know a lot of people may not like the style. A sub, a follow, and a stream goes a long way into helping me. If you want to support, go ahead. I'm new to creating sons, and this is a step into a potentially bright future

Regards, SupaDudz
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@BearMan
Voting yourself is scum

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My opinion is that we lynch Bear, and then NK someone

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If Bear flips town, it will either be me or RM dying in the night. 

If this is the case, the scenario plays as this

RM
Press
Croc

Or 

Supa
Press
Croc

At the point, I would vote Croc, due to his alleged visit.

In conclusion, we don’t need a VTNL to win. We shouldn’t jump to the lynch, but we should communicate and try to see what things we can catch
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He is acting extremely defensive in this game. I understand the will for defense, but attacking is a key party. Oromagi and Speed did all the attacking, meaning he most likely was the defense, only there to stay alive. This is why he’s hopping on VTNL wagons. I believe he was even on my wagon before the shift. His slight rubber ball (a sign of mafia noob), defensive play, and this NP, I am very inclined to believe BearMan is scum
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Bear was the only one not actively on the Speed lynch. He’s been on every VTNL wagon. He’s probably getting advice behind the scenes from Speed and Oromagi to tell him what to do.

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And no I don’t buy Bear’s stupid activity excuse. My life doesn’t revolve around mafia either and I’ve been busy with things as well. I was still able to submit a fucking NP action. It’s inexcusable
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I only slight sus Press for is unwillingness to cooperate with cards, but he’s not a worry. BearMan is strong scum 
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@RationalMadman
Meh. Ik it’s bold but when people come and respond, I’ll have a very solid read on people. Once Croc confirmes who he watched, I think it’s set and stone

If we mislynch and then mafia kill, it’s 2v1. At the point we can narrow it down based on our reads for the this day
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@RationalMadman
All I know is that you and me are town. That’s all. You did not kill Pie and I know I didn’t kill him

I’m down to 1/3
BearMan
Croc 
Press

I’m waiting for Croc to respond before I go with my vote
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@BearMan
You’re telling me you couldn’t log onto your phone, submit a night action within 48hrs, say one sentence, and then go about. No this is a scum move without a doubt. You don’t just, not use your action
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@RationalMadman
4 hearts and 5 diamonds
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@RationalMadman
Yes
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RM visited Croc.
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@RationalMadman
I mean fair point. I like Naruto much more than Sasuke, but I don’t like to say “OMG Naruto my favorite, just cuz he’s the main character.”
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@MisterChris
Well I don't either. I don't play much if all anymore

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VTNL
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@PressF4Respect
In a 6v4 balance scenario, that is extremely scum favored. Even in a 10 game, 7 v 3 is usually scum favorable. 
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@Crocodile
Dub? I liked Yuri a lot (voice of Sasuke). They all were good 
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He also had the right people to guide him. Jiraya, Kakashi, and Iruka were all excellent. He had fate come down to that. I think fate had to play with that, but he had the drive to be great and train in the first place
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I also won't be ignorant and say that fate didn't help Naruto. Naruto had fate help him a lot, but less than it did with Sakura. For one, he had the Akatsuki after him, and he wanted to protect himself from that. He also had a goal to be the Hokage and work hard everyday to get that. I think Sasuke leaving and wanting to be better just gave him the push needed to be an excellent and powerful ninja. I believe he would still be one of the strongest, even if not paired with Sasuke
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@RationalMadman
1v1 combat skills are key when in fight. I agree that she is essential to the story, but let's look at a combative.

I believe she could beat Kiba, TenTen, Rock Lee, Ino, and Tenmari easily. We can debate Choji and Shino but I feel she would beat Choji and lose to Shino, but I could see her losing and winning both of these

Her possession of attack type ninjutsu's are weak. She can not do a Substitution Jutsu at all, a key part of the fighting aspect to deceive your own opponents. She has no deception type jutsus. Compared to a character liked Naruto, who had Shadow Clone and Sasuke's substitution jutsu. While she can hold her own strategy wise, she would be much more of a lethal fighter if she had the knowledge to one of those jutsu's. Her strategy would be much more effective. Someone with a weaker jutsu based like Shikamaru could beat her due to strength.

Sakura only has two releases, Water and Earth. As a combat, she is no greater than Choji with her releases. Hinata has 2 plus the Byakugan, Shikamaru has 2, but he's such a genius that he would win. Kankuro would defeat her with his puppets, because he is obviously become a better puppeteer and can maneuver around Sakura. She can not just charge aimlessly and expect to win against the strongest opponents. It takes a strong jutsu to take out Hidan and Kakuza, and there is no way she would beat any of those two by brute strength. Naruto nearly died doing so by just his normal form. Sakura's ninjutsu battle techniques are too aggressive to take out ant Akatsuki besides Sasori.

Her strength comes after the battle, in her ability to heal others with her chakra control. That is where she is effectively the most useful character. Combat is not her strong point. There is nothing wrong with that. She is still useful after the battle.

In battle though, her abilities are a somewhat smart battle technique, immense strength, and healing. You can't heal immediately after battle, and even so, Naruto also has a healing ability as well. 

Obviously she was with a team of Naruto, aka the strongest ninja and Sasuke, the owner of a Rinnegan and Sharigan, so of course she gets outshined, her use is in after battle, making Team 7 the most ideal for her circumstances. If she were placed on any other team, she would not be a character of interest at all. Fate had it's hand for her. If she were not a team with Sasuke and Naruto, she would not have the drive and motivation to try to master Medical Ninjutsu. SPOILER ALERT RIGHT NOW SO DON'T READ UNDERLINED, if the Third Hokage did not die, or Jiraya accepted the offer as the Sixth Hokage, the story would be much different SPOILER ENDS NOW

Sakura had a lot of fate play into her hands. I give her credit for using that fate to become a successful healing ninja, but there are a lot of factors that went into Sakura's usefulness as well 
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@ILikePie5
I would, but it looks like he is not budging at all with his belief
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@ILikePie5
RM said that, not me

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@ILikePie5
That's why I suggest him being the NK target if you flip town. If he is not killed and someone else is. I have no doubt he's scum
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@RationalMadman
I judge a character based off 3 things in Naruto

1. Ability to Fight

2. Importance / Vitality To Kohona

3. Personality and Development



A character like Sakura is weak in combat, 1v1 style, but is essential to the story and Konoha and developed well in the story, in par with Naruto's development, maybe even better. Making her a good character.  I've said she's an important/good character. But her combat skills are extremely lacking in 1v1 fighting
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Let's look at Ino. Her fighting ability is inferior to Sakura's BY FAR. Her importance in the story is questionable. Yes, she had her moments, but IMO, the show would probably run at the same, maybe a bit less effective if she wasn't in. And her personality is mixed. Mostly a bit bratty and annoying, but rarely showing the kind side.

She is a character I don't like
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@RationalMadman
Exactly. But that isn't going to happen. Pie won't card claim and Press seems to not be actively and doubtely will. I'm not saying to lynch you at all. But I'm saying in the 1v1 tradeoff, we would probably cop/track press no matter what in that cycle. You being alive has no effect in this cycle 
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@RationalMadman
I was more talking to Bear who hasn't seen Shippuden.

I like Sai a lot. He's sort of a comic relief character just looking for some friends and to be accepted. He is also very wise. I like Sai
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@RationalMadman
He's a good mafia player and has taught me a lot. I respect a lot of what he has to say
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@RationalMadman
But if we lynch Pie then, its a 4v1, Bear Croc Me and Press. Press IMO is a slight town versus Bear and Croc's null. I'd much rather take the risk of the 1v1 trade off, where it's a 3v1, and the tracking cycle occurs
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@RationalMadman
Debatable. I've seen people like Lunatic bicker as much as possible to try and disinterest town as much as possible so they rush to mislynch. That's a strategy he told me. Mafia like to bicker, but not the point where a slip can occur
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My plan is we lynch Pie for the DP. If the flip occurs, if any of the town were to get the NK, they should kill RM. The 1v1 trade would hypothetical set a 2v1 setup with LYLO. I would be taking a huge risk trying to convince Croc of townness. You can even kill me in the night if that boosts the ability to track scum.

I am effectively giving my case as to why I am town in the 2v1 for the sake of the town. 
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I'm going with the 1v1 strategy that's happening right, hence why I am idle. There's nothing to say. Wherever the flip goes, that's how it ends. Scum is in a horrible position if it's either Pie or RM

Unvote

Not really confident in the Pie lynch anymore. I don't have any solid reads. The 1v1 scenario is extremely risky, especially if reads are off, but at this point it may be the best


The only thing I am certain is that I am town
So that leaves

1/4
Bear
Croc
RM
Pie

The most town is RM to me, but the 1v1 flip could mean he is a potential scum, so nothing changes

I'm putting Bear in the town right now. I had slight FoS on him DP1, but that sus has gone away
1/3

Croc
RM
Pie

That bickering between the two is leading me to believe it's one of them
Pie's push for himself to lynch seems like mafia desperation. I think 1v1 idea is good, but we need a lot more evidence. I think his aggressiveness to RM is town, as when he gets pissed, he does tend to get brash. However some careless reads on me are a bit sus. While they are reads, they are weak links IMO

RM is another option. His plan technically would work done proper. But there is no way of knowing mafia's hand and roles they have. This leaves me worried he might set up something in general. His jumping to conclusions leaves me a bit worried as well. But most of his behavior seems justified overall.

We know that scum was on Speed's wagon. Oro was scum. Croc, Pie, and RM were on as well. Bear and I were the only ones (but I did vote Speed in the end, I just came late to the party and my vote ultimately did not count)

I would not be surprised if one of those 3 was scum. 
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@Crocodile
Yes
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Sadly that world got lost and I had to restart. A very sad day. But my new city is great. A highway system that works. Better spacing. 
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I have 500 hours on Minecraft. I built a Minecraft server when I was 13 (it's discontinued now) and ran it. I also worked on a minecraft city world for 3+ years, that's a 1/2 of my time. I had 3 stadiums, a museum, airport, chinatown, beach, river, suburban area, gym, 200+ skyscrapers, theme park (it was relatively small), mall, park, graveyard, plaza.
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@MisterChris
Minecraft
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@BearMan
RM is not a confirmed town. He’s a strong town. Confirmed means his role was verified. No one is verified at all
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@RationalMadman
So your saying I should be suspicious if you die? How does that make sense?? You literally outed a strategy to mafia. 

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@ILikePie5
Wrong. I had 2 Nines and then Joker, which went as 9
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@RationalMadman
Clover not club
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@RationalMadman
Looking at Press’s logic and how he sees it

Also I have 3 hearts and Ace Clubs
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@PressF4Respect
I outed my cards literally first thing

Unvote VTL Croc
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Well if it comes down to my flip to determine a scum in Pie or to win, I’ll happily take that sacrifice if it means town will win game. I can card claim if you want.

I still think Pie is most sus. I have no reason to question others right now
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@RationalMadman
I am not against it anymore. I said that
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@ILikePie5
Sorry. You just my biggest scum read. You're kinda switchin up massively and it's making me sus.
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@RationalMadman
Well I'm not "going" for it. I'm just weighing the analysis together.
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@RationalMadman
I like this idea then if luck comes onto our side.

The one issue is we have no idea what roles mafia can choose. They could have a ninja, which would make the strategy a losing strategy
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@RationalMadman
actually that's an idea that might work
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@RationalMadman
No to cards. 

If Mafia has a killing role for a high pair, they can take out someone with a vital role
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