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An Interview with 3RU7AL
Welcome. Today I interviewed the second candidate, 3RU7AL.

3RU7AL said this about promoting the site and getting it active...
"https://bbs.market/ZLOGIC/posts - - it's easy to reach tons of people here
I also have 35+ members on my discord channel and even more in my contacts list who would be good initiates for DebateArt.com
and 422 followers here - https://hive.blog/@logiczombie
I recently exposed some fundamental errors in the HIVE system and my notoriety has skyrocketed there."

3RU7AL has a way to cooperate with the moderators...
"I will ask the moderators to think about their fundamental goals and principles on which each decision is based. Moderation is, by definition, a normative process and as long as the moderator action is coherent with the stated goal of that specific action, it is justified. I'd love to dissect some specific examples if you have any you'd like me to demonstrate on."

3Ru7AL was asked why he wanted to be president, he stated.
"I was asked if I'd be willing to fulfil the role as defined, and I accepted the nomination."

There you go, the presidential nominee 3ru7al. Go and vote for the presidency tmrw
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Resolved - Lunatics recent actions toward RM are unjustified
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@Mikal
Yes it can be. I am busy personally but if others will this is fine if RM agrees
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@Mikal
I propose the next 2 live mafia games we do Luna quotes and whoever volunteers themselves 
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Axolotl image request.
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@Dr.Franklin
So has Airmax
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An Interview with Airmax
Yesterday, I was able to speak with Airmax about his plans for the presidency and what his goals are

Airmax's main focus for this election was advertising. He wanted to make an effective ad campaign for DART to function on.

"I believe DART needs to an activity boost to the highest degree. For a site with excellent functionality, there is no reason why we should have only 20 unique members posting in 24hours. While activity is needed, our ad campaign needs to be gradual. A mass spike in users would hurt the site due to people logging in and then leaving. In order to maintain a stable level of activity, we must slowly boost the activity and advertise enough to gradually make this site boom."

In regards to moderation, Airmax stated...

"I believe the moderators are capable of handling their jobs well. I should only have a small input in the say of moderation. I am a person who believes in lassiez fair and current moderation hold my beliefs true."

Airmax stated as to why he is running for president.

"I had a strong urge to come back to the site when asked. I was advising with one of my friends and she actually encouraged me to do this. Focusing on a hobby that I enjoy doing is something that will benefit my mental health overall and gives me something to be passionate about and invest my time into."

There you have it. My interview with Airmax. There will hopefully be an interview with 3RU7AL coming soon!
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The mods did a good thing today. I will give credit where credit was due.
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@Lunatic
I appreciate the post and compliment

I am hopeful to push more a more lassiez fair agenda in the future to create a fun and engaging site for people to commentate on.

I am also hopeful that we can start an ad campaign to garner traffic to the site so we can get new users to come and engage on the site

2 goals for the future
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
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@RationalMadman
This isn't a high school friend group. There's no peer pressure
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Mod Issues
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@RationalMadman
You and I clearly do not have the same definition of abuse 
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
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@RationalMadman
I find it unironically hilarious how you would think at an 18 year old college student can "peer pressure" adults that have families and are already in the workforce
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
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@RationalMadman
I will allow them to speak on it, but note this was unanimously concluded
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Mod Issues
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@RationalMadman
I would not ban either you or Luna, and hell, I wouldn't even give a warning. I'm saying that administrations in the past would. Remember your whole fiasco with David and your 2 month ban.
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
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@RationalMadman
Do you not understand that this was unanimously decided by the mods lol. They will give you the same response.
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Mod Issues
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@RationalMadman
My leniancy applies to you and luna. Both of you have said stuff that David/Virt would most likely ban you for (no offense to them). I am much more lienant in what I do ban and don't ban for
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
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@RationalMadman
This was review by both moderators and they allowed me to do as such

1. This thread is not harassment. This is the biggest thing about this thread that decided us to unlock it. People are calling you out or your behaviors, not harassing you

2. It does not matter what happens. You and luna will continue to bicker at each other in threads that aren't this one until time can tell. There is no point in me blocking this one when you will just go at it in a different thread

3. Moderation is not babysitting
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@Lunatic
The thread has been unlocked
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
The thread has been unlocked
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Mod Issues
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@Lunatic
I am going to confirm with whiteflame if that is the case, and then I will do it
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Mod Issues
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@Lunatic
Well I can't say how your personal experience is with Ragnar is, but if it makes you feel better, we technically can override a decision he makes
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@RationalMadman
Can the user see who is reporting what posts? No. 

And that is simply not true. TheRealNihilist is banned from reporting posts due to his overreporting, so we are allowed to disclose.

Most of the current mod team shares the same view I have, so your response you get what from Ragnar or Whiteflame is similar to what I would say. So you avoiding me does no good but makes yourself look foolish
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Mod Issues
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@Lunatic
I don't know about other mods, but I haven't done that, in fact I deny more RM reports than approve
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PROPOSAL TO END ALL MODERATION "PROBLEMS"
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@3RU7AL
If people feel the need to silence members, they should not be on a debate site
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Mod Issues
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@3RU7AL
Absolutely not
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Why the gaying of society is happening
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@Wylted
I tend to agree. LBGQ+ month do nothing for the actual cause and instead inflate this idea that by changing their profile picture to a rainbows, they are doing a good thing. It's manipulation. "Oh look at me. I have a rainbow to show I'm active, buy my product. 5% of the revenue from my purchase goes to some LGBTQ+ charity."
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Revive Mafia
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@Lunatic
If I am going to host it will likely be after elections to
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Revive Mafia
If anyone is interested in doing some mafia revival, put a post in the chat!
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Mod Issues
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I believe you are referring to this section...

5. If a user’s content includes unwarranted (or excessively toxic) systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, moderation shall:
a) FIRST, request the user cease & desist such behavior.
b) IF adequate time passes and A is ignored by the user, OR IF the user complied initially after A but again unapologetically engages in unwarranted (or excessively toxic) systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, moderation shall issue a 30 day ban and repeat A.
c) IF the user continues to defy moderation after the 30 day ban, moderation shall issue a 90 day ban and then repeat A.
d) ALL additional infractions after C shall be met with bans according the formula
y=6(x2)y=6(x^2)y=6(x2)
where "y" equals ban time in months and "x" equals the number of infractions after C.
We are hosting soon after the election is over to reform this set of rules. Please do vote on it
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Mod Issues
Frankily it is a tough decision to ask. I doubt that DART has the funding to launch a massive ad campaign on the internet to promote site activity. It isn't backed by a major company like Juggle was
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@Ramshutu
The question is not the why, but the how. How are we going to get more people to engage? How will we try to achieve the top of said bar to set
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Formally want to MEEP
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@Mikal
A MEEP is coming after an election
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Why 3ru7al should drop out of the race and his supporters should vote Airmax
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@RationalMadman
Lmao
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@Wylted
What. I never did this
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@Wylted
Please mark me a time where I have locked a thread for stirring up drama because I highly doubt that I have in the past 6 months
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@Wylted
You act like I locked the original thread lol
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Why I won't let up on RCB (RationalCrybaby), and I encourage Airmax to ignore him from now on
This thread is going under moderation review
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Mod Issues
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@Mikal
I'd agree and fair on asking for whiteflame, I am just stating my opinion on it. I agree with you, but I am an enforcer of the rules
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@Mikal
My issue with that statement is that Airmax is running for a position that can directly influence moderation, which is a fair reason to call out someone because they will have a position of power. Hence why Luna's why you shouldn't vote RM thread was not taken down, hence why Airmax's thread against him was not taken down. Because they are running for a position that would grant them power

Luna made a post about RM after his withdrawal, and thus is not fair game for the call out thread, since he is not running for a position in power, thus making him a regular user, a violation of the CoC

As I said, if you would like the reform that rule, feel free to lead the charge
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@Mikal
If you want to lead a call to action for the next MEEP where we get rid of the call out rule. Feel free to do so. I was able to do as such with RO's and making a more effective system. 
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@Mikal
attacking RM's character*
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@Mikal
Call out threads themselves are not allowed by the CoC. If you would like to protest that and have a call to action, that is fine. In fact, I would be in support. I am speaking as someone observing the action and my take on it and enforcing said rule

RM's thread was about Airmax's presidency. It's perfectly fair to call out a candidate in their campaign

Luna's thread came after the withdrawal by RM, technically making it a call out thread, thus it is against the rules.
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The thread in question is going under the review
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@RationalMadman
I saw now
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@RationalMadman
You are allowed to call out moderation
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Debate Art Truthbox
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@Mikal
Thanks Pie
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Something you may not know about airmax
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@Mikal
Lol
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Good mice/mousepads
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@RightBehindYou
I tend to like Logitech gear as well. Best bang for your buck
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NFL Wild Card Playoffs
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@airmax1227
Tempted to say Pats beat Bills to
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NFL Wild Card Playoffs
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@airmax1227
Wild Card
Bengals beat Raiders
Bills beat Patriots
Chiefs beat Steelers

Bucs beat Rams
49ers beat Cowboys
Rams beat Cardinals

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Divisional
Bengals beat Titans
Bills beat Chiefs

Packers beat 49ers
Bucs beat Rams

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Conference
Bengals beat Bills
Bucs beat Packers

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Supa Bowl
Bucs beat Bengals
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Debate Art Truthbox
I enjoyed these on DDO
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@zedvictor4
The ban was done by Ragnar, who he likely notified to close the account, so ask him
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I am not sure if I'm breaking a rule by making a new thread about the election but...
If you believe that Airmax is a better fit for the site over you and stepping down is the only way of doing so, that is your choice and I commend you for that decision.

You led an effective campaign that managed to get lots of traction. Hats off to you RM. While I may disagree with you on some issues, you are an essential part to the community and hope you continue on this site
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