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@whiteflame
Never depending on how that player is. Grey and Pie are easy to read. Speed is somewhat easy but he's smart so he can get away with it. Harder players are drafter and Lunatic. Some don't even have a consistent playstyle to make them hard to read. There is no set amount
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@MisterChris
So are you or are you not scumreading me. You are being confusing lol
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@whiteflame
You vote on the lynch in private. We lynch our first suspect, then the second lynch is announced. There are two vote counts
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@MisterChris
Soooo... Now you're scumreading me because I'm not scumreading you explicitly when you initially scumread me for scumreading you.
So you scumread me then? You said that you didn't scum read me. Make up your mind
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@MisterChris
That still isn't enough games to know your style of play, sorry
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@MisterChris
You just said it rubbed you the wrong way and then tried to say that I was defending Bullish, who you scumread. By default, if you think I am defending scum (which I'm not defending Bullish for not being able to take a joke), then why are you not scum reading me?
I'm leaning more toward Chris
I'm leaning more toward Chris
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@MisterChris
This is simply incorrect. You've played 8 games, one of which you weren't active and one game where you FF as scum after claiming vanilla, so no I don't know your playstyle that much
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@whiteflame
It would've been used to confirm me, but you can VTNL on it so if we didn't have any clear results we'd just do that
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@MisterChris
You're legit being a hypocrite if you're gonna scum read for the same thing you are getting mad at Bullish for
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@whiteflame
Because if we mislynch here, it's 6v2, then it's NK, it's 5v2, then if we activate my role it's 3v2 if we mislynch. Worse if there is 3P
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@Lunatic
It works in the DP, but I select in the night when to use it. So if I use it tonight, the next DP it takes effect
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A couple days ago, I was feeling really tired and had a runny nose. I thought it was a normal sickness until my mom started to develop symptoms, loss of taste, sore throat. My mom took a test and tested positive. So I went to take a test and it turns out my test results were positive. My 2021 is going amazing :). I'm fine after that. I have smell and taste, feel nothing at all
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My role is that I give town two lynches. One public and one private
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@warren42
I didn't say it's abnormal, I just am not used to MisterChris's play to determine if it is abnormal or not.
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@ILikePie5
At the moment, VTNL is the best option unless another option arrives but the primary choice is VTNL
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@MisterChris
From my knowledge, no action have been taken DP1. It's best to leave mafia guessing versus being informed so we have a better chance of getting mafia.
And this is not true. You put a wiki link about irony humor, and I said Bullish has never been the humorous type, as he get mad over Luna calling me a cunt nugget. In no way was that a defense, in fact, it was more a joking critique, something that you did, yet you are somewhat targeting me, seems a bit hypocritical in my opinion
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@warren42
No because it isn't enough of a behavioral read to try to pressure. If I were to pressure anyone because a gun was to my head, it'd be whiteflame, but I don't have a gun to my head, so I am not
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@MisterChris
You took a response to #118 about Bullish not being able to take a joke as me defending Bullish.
You also said why shouldn't we push claims. No where did you imply that it was only for a certain behavior, you said, why shouldn't we push for claims
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@whiteflame
My playstyle is general defensive as scum and as town, so nothing unusual. While I disagree with the assessment of being overly defensive, I will claim only at L-1
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@whiteflame
My role can cause town to lose if it isn't used properly. It can be verified, but if not used correctly, it can cause town to lose. If it is better for me to claim, I will claim, but know town will have to use my role wisely
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@warren42
He is, let me recheck the VC, because if he is I'm gonna feel dumb. Even so, whiteflame quickly backing off is weird while saying he's got his eye on you, and whiteflame can read my sarcasm fine when I talk to him. I understand Bullish not being able too
Chris is being a bit aggressive. Maybe that's his playstyle, idk.
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@whiteflame
I understand that, but it doesn't explain why you put a vote on him. Bullish hasn't put a vote on Chris despite him reading it as serious and he struggles with reading sarcasm and humor as well. I have no issue with that, but my issue comes with the VTL
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@whiteflame
There has been a wagon on Speed and now me for a claim. Are you going to look for more claims? Please let me know what part of my behavior has been suspicious. I have remained consistent with the logic that looking for claims unless there's viable suspicious behavior. I have not heard why I am suspicious but that I am suspicious.
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@warren42
No because there isn't a character, so there wouldn't be a theme, so there would be no theme split unless I am wrong
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@ILikePie5
Idk what mafia roles are, whether they have either DP or NP actions. If we are going to take the assumption that town only have DP action (not an unlikely), if we decide to out roles and we end up outing are only NP action role as town, then mafia are one step ahead. In this game, mafia will always be one step ahead and the fact we will be outing ourselves serves nothing but to help mafia.Mafia are always one step ahead because they can communicate with each other whenever they like
And in a game where most roles are swingy (either helping or hurting town), if we mass claim, they know which roles are more swingy versus positive, thus making it easier for them to pick off pieces. I'd rather them not be informed of roles unless they have too
I am not against claiming, I just don't think we hunt just to hunt in DP1. We need to analyze behavior extremely and not produced half whim role claims to generate activityWouldn’t you say people are asking you to claim because of your behavior here?
I see no problem with my behavior
Lemme phrase it this way: have you seen anything scummy or something that warrants more questioning?
The only thing that doesn't sit right is whiteflame's response to a joke. He pushed a VTL on MisterChris then changed his logic after we called him out, thus changing his view. While Bullish is still pushing it, he isn't pushing a vote on Chris. MisterChris's aggression is weird, but I don't scum read it.
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@ILikePie5
The rest, you said that's there's no theme split which is true because there isn't a theme
And I said in this DP that I believe mass hunting for claims is idiotic in this game
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@ILikePie5
Your posts? I mean it's cool you played a tuba and the poem you made was good and I agree that Lunatic is paranoid of Speed. And your read on the game balance is probably the most likely case. What else did you post?
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@MisterChris
Idk what mafia roles are, whether they have either DP or NP actions. If we are going to take the assumption that town only have DP action (not an unlikely), if we decide to out roles and we end up outing are only NP action role as town, then mafia are one step ahead. In this game, mafia will always be one step ahead and the fact we will be outing ourselves serves nothing but to help mafia.
I am not against claiming, I just don't think we hunt just to hunt in DP1. We need to analyze behavior extremely and not produced half whim role claims to generate activity
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@MisterChris
That post I said was in response to #118
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When someone responds with what they wanna do, I will claim. FYI I believe claiming in this game just gives mafia much more of an advantage and if you think logically, you know why. There's a lot about the game we don't know about scum versus what scum know about us. This is so much of a what if game that claiming is ultimately a detriment in DP1. I, again, think claiming in DP1 is stupid and will abide by this notion and this applies especially true about this game
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I'm debating whether or not to claim because I am trying to think if there will be a third party in this game. Basically if the third party can joint win, in theory it wouldn't matter, but if third part has their own win con then I will not claim my role. Simple. If you want to take the risk of costing this game unless you decide not to use my role when I confirm it then go ahead
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@whiteflame
@warren42
I can prove myself next DP but it could cause town to lose the game if we mislynch or not lynch potentially, so pick yer poison
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@whiteflame
@MisterChris
Please inform me where I was critiquing your read on Bullish
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@whiteflame
@MisterChris
Bullish got mad at Lunatic for the word cunt nugget, so humor isn't really his cup of tea
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@Lunatic
No. I clearly talked about whiteflame. I'm not going to scrap at the petty things to force a lynch. We have no idea the roles mafia have or the other town have to try to draw a lynch. To pull at nothing and to force claims in DP1 only gives mafia the advantage by allowing them to be one step ahead of us. There's no reason to pursue anything at the moment
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@ILikePie5
I said that this is the most likely scenario in a post
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@Lunatic
I didn't complain. I just said there isn't anything to go buy
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@Lunatic
I wish to not pursue based on small things. That puts us at a disadvantage in this game.
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@Lunatic
There is nothing to pursue and to pursue in a daylight themed role game to me seems foolish. If we out too much info too early, mafia could use that to their advantage
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Althought I will say that whiteflame's (I believe) serious-esc reaction is weird, but it's not a conclusive readable behavior
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@Lunatic
There has been nothing to pursue. There was an overreaction to a joke. That's as much info as there will be so far
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Overreaction to a joke, seesh that's all the info we are getting in DP1
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@RationalMadman
You are not even an iota more entitled to be here than I am so first justify your existence on the website to me, before asking why I'm back.
I found this unironically hilarious
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@zedvictor4
Being objective with music leads to having an open taste
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