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You claimed Israel is only talking about a cease fire now because they think Trump will be president. That flies completely in the face of any reasonable real world understanding of the situation.
Yeah, you are right. It is just a one in a billion coincidence that this was never ever on the table until Netanyahu met Trump and Trump was favored to win.
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@3RU7AL
one of the proposals is TERM LIMITS
That is terrible. WOW. So it's even worse than I thought.
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@3RU7AL
This is referring to increasing the number of judges on the Supreme Court and throwing in a bunch of liberals just prior to radical life extension becoming feasible
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@Moozer325
I like them. I think they will help prevent this super-majority that Trump has made from happening again with either side.
They will not. They will just make sure that democrats always alhave a majority and this is a pretty transparent attempt to make sure there is never any way liberals can be challenged for power
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@TheUnderdog
How is this any different than public school?
Public schools are not for profit. The lack of a profit motive makes them care more for the outcome of students.
States subsidize education to a significant extent. I don't agree with an income tax, but the idea that corporations will pack up their bags and move to where there are low taxes is not well thought out. There are 193 nations in the world; only one of them has the lowest tax rate for corporations in the world (unless there is a tie). If your argument was true, then corporations would already move out of any area that did not have the lowest tax rate in the world.
Multi national corporations can actually rent an office and call it a Chinese Business or an American Business or a Samoan business for less than $500 a month. The corporate headquarters matter because taxes on profits made overseas can only be done if the offices are located in the United States.
There are good and bad left and right wing places to live. CT and Westchester are good left wing places; Putnam County and Orange County, CA are good right wing places; the rust belt has a lot of bad right wing areas; Bridgeport has bad left wing places. The Economic freedom index argues Scandinavia has high economic freedom (and it's what Bernie Sanders wants to turn America into).
Yes the leftwing places you mentioned are predominantly white. As far as the economic freedom index is concerned, adding the policies Sanders reccomends would drop us on the index and create worse life outcomes, because those benefits unlike in scandinavia would not come with erasing the other business policies that those countries don't have which balance it out.
A better solution is to solely focus on whether a policy moves us up or down on the list and only enact policies that move us up so we can have a higher standard of living. I see no point in making college free if it hurts us overall and we also no for a fact socialist health care policies harm us by letting more people die as evidenced in the following article. https://fee.org/articles/if-american-healthcare-kills-european-healthcare-kills-more/
We also can look at economic interventionist policies of the United States and see if they came with any down sides and every single intervention has had some down sides.
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@Double_R
So both of these countries are cheering on the prospect of another Trump presidency because they think it will let them do whatever they want. To claim they are suddenly talking because they're scared of Trump is the epitomy of partisan hackery.
Why can't people just work on win win deals for everyone without fear coming into play. People dying is pretty bad. Also what is wrong with Israel finishing the job of eliminating the threat of terrorism?
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@3RU7AL
For anyone who wants to be informed I should say. For those who don't please do turn off the pings
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@whiteflame
Yeah, I was bracing myself for a fight with Savant. Actually had a few ideas on how I'd respond, but didn't end up having to go there.
It was hard not to tell him what to do in the scum chat. I just wanted to tell him his options. Maybe given both of their inexperience I could have roped Earth into the scum chat to coach them.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Hey, I sent Wylted a guess that a role like yours existed via PM. Why you no save me?
Austin was taking too long to get on so I just made an executive decision. There was from town POV 2 potential town deaths there so I didn't want to make the call but wanted to make sure we moved along fast enough for everyone's tastes.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If DP 3 was a mislynch then scum would have immediately won as Savant would have been able to instalynch hated Barney DP 4 and anyone else DP 5 and so on.
This is why I feel savant should have claimed that whiteflame was creating some sort of gambit and speculated the scum team had 3 members and fought harder for the win
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@Double_R
lol so Trump gets credit for things the Biden administration is working out. If the left did this you'd be screaming TDS.
So he these deals that are happening in the final months of Biden's presidency and only after world leaders open up to talking to Trump are happening because of Biden?
If Biden could do it, why not 2 years ago?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I was right about the "I can role confirm" shit needing to stop though. I stand by that. If your role confirms your alignment that's one thing but come on. Just be normal, people.
I think in a future game if I get to mod again than I will punish people for this belief. I usually like to set up games to punish town for what I believe is having a bad meta
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@whiteflame
Very much appreciate that Pie also refused to claim, made him look like he had a powerful PR.
Scum role copped him the same day you did and knew his role
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@AustinL0926
@Savant
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
Endgame up
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## Mafia wins
1. Casey, you are Kanye west - "I see good things about Hitler" Your jewdar is off the charts. You can know the true nature of anyone and therefore can investigate them to reveal their role and character. You win with the mafia
2. Savant, You are Donald Trump, a proven time traveler. You use your time travel abilities to spark chaos and to flip the script on the deep state. Each night you may swap 2 people's roles. You are the chaos agent. You win with the mafia
## Town
1. Austin: Jim Kindeldon from the movie Groundhog's day. You keep returning to the same day as a result you are the timelord. 1x per game you may reset the timeline in the twilight period of the dp and it restarts. You win with town
2. Owen: You are Howard dean. Your scream can end any attempt to vote you at all. You may use the dean scream to end your vote train 1x (used dp2). You win with town
3. Lunatic: You are Dennis Green- They are who you think they are. If you correctly guess who is on the mafia team by submitting your choice than you will lose your vote the next dp. You win with town.
4. ilikepie: You are terrence howard. Due to your superior math abalities you can multiple your 1 vote by 1 and have 2 votes. You are a 1x double voter. You win with the town.
5. whiteflame: You are John Titor. You came back to not only warn us of the coming tragedies, but potentially fix our timeline so it doesn't end up like yours. You win with town.
**Temporal Archaeologist :** Studies past timelines, uncovering a player's previous roles if they have been swapped or changed
6. Joebob: You are Big Red. You can defeat the patriarchy by telling people to STFU. Therefore you are the silencer. You win with town
7. Disc: You are Adolph Hitler. You can travel through time and use this ability to travel back in time after your lynch to take somebody down with you. You are the hunter. You win with the town
8. Barney: You are Short king. As the short king you are simultaneously hated by all women, and unfairly so. You just want some God damn respect. You are the hated and require one less vote to lynch. You win with the town
np1 actions
2. ilikepie - no action
3. whiteflame - cops pie
4. lunatic - cops owen and dies
6. Joebob - does not use ability acquires lunatic's role
7. Disc - N/A
8. Austin - N/a
9.owen N/A
10.Barney N/A
scum
5.casey role cop pie
1. savant kill lunatic and swap him with joebob
NP2 actions
mafia
savant kill and role swap pie
town
1. austin - NA
2. owen - NA
3. whiteflame role cops savant
4. joebob- cops pie
5. Barney- NA
## Thoughts
This was supposed to be a highly experimental game, but things did not work out like I expected. For example Savant swapped roles with a dead person and swapped another dead persons roles. I don't think Casey needed to fake claim a character when the theme was deemed not to be discernable. Barney is also right that Bill O'Reilly is not a reporter, but wrong that Fox through their news team under the bus. They just differentiate their news shows from their talk shows,
Not discernable does not mean a theme does not exist though. The theme was MAGA vs the world. Disc, made an excellent play. no DP2. I think scum got a bit unlucky with who whiteflame role copped, and I also think Savant could have maybe sewn some more Chaos by switching the roles of live players. If the roles of half the town were swapped at the beginning of DP3 than the game would be a bit harder to figure out. Maybe if they did not find their own role cop useful, swap it with lunatic on NP1.
I hope it doesn't seem I am being harsh with the scum team. I was just hoping for the scum team to win and so the most feedback is always going to go that direction. I think Casey's scum game has improved. I do feel like and town didn't see this but that this particular scum team could work on their IDGAF atttitude, as there was some panic when they get to L2 or even L3 that just doesn't need to be there.
I hope you all enjoyed
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(4/4)- Whiteflame, barney, savant, savant
savant was lynched. He was guilty. Endgame up soon
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subscribing to the discord channel will cause you to get pinged for every new video and the content if I continue, will move more towards debate in general. I legitimately don't know anything about debate so I would be interested in interviewing those on the site, involved in competitive debate to explain some stuff about it to me. https://discord.gg/mY74Zkts
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I am subscribed. I think I am going to try and get a bunch of live debates on moderndaydebate. I have already changed my name on the MDD discord server to be debateartdotcom .
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Dead
Town
LUNATIC- You are Big Red. You can defeat the patriarchy by telling people to STFU. Therefore you are the silencer. You win with town
Disc- You are Adolph Hitler. You can travel through time and use this ability to travel back in time after your lynch to take somebody down with you. You are the hunter. You win with the town
Pie- You are Donald Trump, a proven time traveler. You use your time travel abilities to spark chaos and to flip the script on the deep state. Each night you may swap 2 people's roles. You are the chaos agent. You win with Town https://youtu.be/D7Y32lyE5c4?si=9LzB2eNOyDFonlrE
Mafia
Casey- you are Kanye west - "I see good things about Hitler" Your jewdar is off the charts. You can know the true nature of anyone and therefore can investigate them to reveal their role and character. You win with the mafia
Alive
1. savant
2. whiteflame
3. Joebob
4. Austin
5.owen
6.Barney
With 6 players alive it takes 4 vote to lynch. DP ends in 72 hours
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@Best.Korea
Here is a relevant song for when we take power. No more goons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExXG-II_8eY
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I think people say it when an ideal is consistent with either liberal or conservative ideals. Like discussion on the sentencing lengths of prisoners, would be considered apolitical because your opinions on it, likely do not fall cleanly on left or righ
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I think people say it when an ideal is consistent with either liberal or conservative ideals. Like discussion on the sentencing lengths of prisoners, would be considered apolitical because your opinions on it, likely do not fall cleanly on left or righ
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@Savant
I sent you a markdown file on discord so it would be easier to send it to professor Kagan
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@FLRW
I like you more each time you upgrade my IQ
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@Savant
Finished, please get his feedback on that
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### The Law of Accelerating Returns
Earlier we learned from Mr. Seymore that technology can move in the blink of an eye but it is often not noticed until we look back. When we look at the years 1650 to 1750, it was almost exactly the same. It was like that throughout most of earths history. mostly 100 or 1000 years of time sometimes 10,000 years of time where the beginning and end of the time period was indistinguishable. If we go back to the 1850s and then to the 1950s, not to dissimilar to what Mr. Seymore did, the world looks completely different over that span of time. The same sort of jump happened between the 1950s and 2000s. The technological advancements are not just happening rapidly, the rate of progress is also accelerating. We call this "The law of Accelerating Returns".
Ray Kurzweil the originator of the law of accelerating return says;
“An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense “intuitive linear” view. So we won’t experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century — it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today’s rate). The “returns,” such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There’s even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, [leading to The Singularity”[3]](https://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns)
He goes onto showing us an example of this in our recent past. The human genome project started in 1990, and critics pointed out that at their pace and with technology what it is, it might take 1000 years to finish the project, less than 5% of the project was complete by year 5, but the 15 year project ended up being completed 1 year ahead of schedule.
**Predictable advances in technology**
Kurzweil used his law of accelerating returns to make several startling predictions on the advancement of technology that came true. Of the 147 predictions he made since the 1990s 127 of them have been correct. 12 of those were off by a year or 2 though. This gives him close to a 90% accuracy rate, showing that the law of accelerating returns is a reliable predictor of what the [future will look like. [4]](https://www.diamandis.com/blog/86-accuracy-rate-in-tech-predictions)
A sample of Kurzweil’s predictions that have [come true;[6]](https://www.businessinsider.com/15-startling-incredible-and-provactive-predictions-from-googles-genius-futurist-2015-9#for-kurzweil-the-law-of-accelerating-returns-rules-the-future-10)
1. We will mostly use portable computers by this time
2. Personal computers will be available on clothing such as watches
3. Cloud computing will be common-sense
4. Predicted Google Glasses
Kurzweil as late as 2016 has predicted that within the next 10-15 years, we will see our life expectancy increase by 1 year for every year that passes, putting us at [escape velocity.[5](https://www.therecord.com/news-story/6552546--radical-life-extension-coming-futurist-says/)] He uses some current technologies to prove this. . He does not refer to unknown technologies, but known technologies and what they will be capable of when they are predictably improved at the predictable rate.
For example in the 2020, he says 3d printing will be advanced enough to start to replicate human
organs. By the 2030s we will have computers the size of human bloodcells, which can repair cellular damage or deliver drugs. Some companies are already working on this. If we look back to earlier in this round I mentioned one strategy for extending lifespan being cellular repair because of cells damaged by the aging progress.
If Kurzweils predictions hold true and let's remember they are 90% true than we should reach escape velocity by 2030. I have affirmed the resolution that I will most likely be alive to see us reach escape velocity, if he is a little off and escape velocity is reached by 2040, I should still most likely live to see 200 years old.
Those who bet against technology, typically lose.
### Conclusion
Death is bad, Death is avoidable.
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## Death is Bad
Death is to be avoided because of the fact we cease to exist should we die, and fear of death is good because it helps us to have a sense of self preservation, and may help us to overcome death.
Some will argue that death is good. That it helps us to avoid some naturally bad things such as overpopulation. They will also tell you that we should not fear death and give various arguments for this, most famously by lucretius and by epicurus.
Some of this is just a way to cope with death. Some of it is legitimate criticism and fear for a society where some individuals have access to life extension technologies, while others don't.
I agree with Aubrey DeGrey when he says that it is just as unethical to prevent cancer if we have a cure as to prevent another fatal disease (aging) should we also have a cure. https://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_a_roadmap_to_end_aging
I can imagine the outrage if somebody were to argue that we should not cure aids because it helps curb overpopulation. So why don't we get offended when people say the same about aging?
It is my belief that we don't because we fear death so much that we are almost in denial that we will die. We cope with the inevitable by pretending we want it.
It is like in this study where somebody makes a piece of IKEA furniture or is offered a more expensive furniture to trade it for,when they are done building it. Most people deny the more expensive furniture because if the prior investment. https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/11-091.pdf
This is why you will hear people proclaim. "Death is good and we should welcome it". They have fooled themselves thinking it is better merely because it was unavoidable, however now that avoiding it is within grasp, this psychological coping mechanism will prevent us from achieving it sooner.
Everyday that passes more people die from aging. With the prevention of it possible in our lifetimes every man woman and child on the planet should be working on it's arrival. Just like how Americans came together during world war 1 and 2. Everybody was a part of that war movement because winning those wars was the most important thing on the planet at that time.
I heard it said by Ayn Rand who got it from somebody else. That when she dies the world will end. This is true. As far as any of us know we seize to exist upon death. As leo tolstoy talked about. Life gives meaning. Like the age old question, if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Our existence gives meaning to life. If nobody is around to enjoy the apple from a tree, than the apple serves no purpose. Beyond that, if we die than what we have done is for nothing. There are two solutions for this, and I believe both to be important. Though some just choose the first.
First. The only thing that matters is this moment. Enjoy it to the best of your ability. Make this moment count. However, once the moment has passed, it no longer matters. The only way to make any of this matter is to achieve immortality.
That is mainly why we should pursue it. So our entire lives are not pointless. However before we pursue it, we should deal with whether we can even create for ourselves an indefinite lifespan at all.
## Common Objections to Radical Life extension
The most common arguments against preventing people from dying earlier than necessary is the following;
1. If people die less than there will be overpopulation
For this to be a good argument, you have to assume that people will just stop dying from other ways or that this will always be a problem and never solvable. Hell, even if we took the Logan’s run approach and just killed everybody once they hit 150, it would still be an improvement on the status quo, where most of us are dead by 80.
I certainly would not advocate for the Logan’s run solution. If we take into account the mortality rate, of people from dying of non age related diseases, and do the math the average lifespan would be about 1200 years. [5] This is assuming that people just don’t feel like they are done at earlier ages like at the 200 or 500 year marker. So we won’t just be filling up the world indefinitely.
In 1968 the book “The Population Bomb”, made similar over crowding predictions as my opponent is likely to make. It predicted mass famine would occur in first world countries, that we would no longer be able to sustain a growing population. It failed to take into account that we would see progress in food production, transportation and in other industries that pushed back those predictions and will continue to do so as technology advances. With advances in global standard of living, we will also see a reduction in reproduction. Industrialized nations see a reduced amount of reproduction.[6] Population Alarmists are misguided.
2. We Would Get bored
I disagree, and life is fun. It would take thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years to run out of novel things to try. I could think of about 200 things I could take an entire year exploring off the top of my head, this excludes things that would be fun that take considerably less or more time to explore
3. Only the Rich would benefit
I think this is silly as well. When a technology first comes out, it is xpensive, like the computer, which got a man to the moon. Now we have the same computer power, within our cellphones.[7]
4. Society would stagnate
This is hard to get behind when you see what people did late in life. Such as Beethoven late in life, or colonel Sanders with his 13 original herbs and spices, or John Glenn's space flight at 77.[8]
sources
[1] [https://www.debateart.com/debates/1719/radical-life-extension-is-more-likely-than-not-in-our-lifetime](https://www.debateart.com/debates/1719/radical-life-extension-is-more-likely-than-not-in-our-lifetime)[2] [https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2005/9/report_kurzweil](https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2005/9/report_kurzweil)[3] [https://singularityhub.com/2016/02/14/denying-death-is-radically-longer-life-good-for-society/](https://singularityhub.com/2016/02/14/denying-death-is-radically-longer-life-good-for-society/)[4] [https://www.aish.com/atr/120-Year-Lifespan.html](https://www.aish.com/atr/120-Year-Lifespan.html)[5] [http://www.senescence.info/immortal_society.html](http://www.senescence.info/immortal_society.html)[6] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255510/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255510/)[7] [http://theconversation.com/would-your-mobile-phone-be-powerful-enough-to-get-you-to-the-moon-115933](https://theconversation.com/would-your-mobile-phone-be-powerful-enough-to-get-you-to-the-moon-115933)
## We Can live forever
Imagine living in a time where people get around on horseback. a place where there is no refrigeration, you just keep your food in a cool cellar. For comfort you don't have TV or radio, you have a book and the more your read it by candlelight when nightfall comes, the more your eyesight weakens. This isn't as far back as you may think. There was a gentleman who watched Abraham Lincoln die in 1865. There was a guy like that who does have an interview you can watch in 1956. His name was [Samuel J. Seymore. [14]](https://www.businessinsider.com/interview-with-the-last-living-witness-of-the-lincoln-assassination-2019-7)
This man was born into the world described. He went from living in a world where people got around on horseback, to one where people took trips on planes, A place where a family was lucky to have electricity to a world where nearly every man woman and child had access to a television. He went from salting meats to eat later, to constantly having fresh refrigerated food on hand.
The world they live in today, will be as alien to to our kids as the 1960s was to Mr. Seymore. These changes happened to Seymore in a slow gradual way, and only looking back does this technological advancement look fast. It's the same for me at 40. All the changes came slow from tapes, to CD's to MP3's and then the slow transition to just listening to music on my phone. It's only looking back that I can see how alien the world has become, and you too will have this experience.
The whole point of relaying that information to you is to show you that these slow gradual changes really add up and some changes look miraculous if you were to just jump your life 20 years, but are mundane when you experience it as it happens. Slow increases in life expectancy won't be noticed as you experience them, and then one day you are looking at your mother who is now celebrating her 500 year birthday and maybe you will pause to think.... "How the fuck did this happen?".
Life expectancy is currently about [80 years old. [1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy) People watching Mr. Seymore on television in the 1950s explaining that he saw Lincoln shot in the head, would be dumbfounded at the alien world he lived in. The people watching that show had a [life expectancy of 40 years old. [1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy) The doubling of life expectancy between their time and ours had to be a welcome surprise. Had some health conscious person debated them saying he would live to be 100 many of those people would tell him, he was crazy.
To achieve life extension to get us from 80 to allowing us to live to 200, we don’t need a big leap in technology. Baby steps are good enough. The currently we are progressing on average of adding 3 months of lifespan for [every year we are alive. [2]](https://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/life_tables/situation_trends_text/en/) In order to reach escape velocity, all we need to do is add one year of life, for every single year we are alive.
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Nearly all of us fear death. Many are in denial of this fear. Terror management theory explains how we psychologically adapt to the existential threat of death, which we become aware of long before anyone cares to admit. https://www.ernestbecker.org/terror-management-theory
To deal with this existential threat people will develop certain increased self esteem, cultural worldviews and striving. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1088868309352321 . In listening to your lecture on the fear of death, you seemed to say that fearing death makes no sense, if you know it is coming and you know it is certain, and you know the magnitude of the event. This is simply false. Not only because the result is the repression, not the elimination of fear, but also because it's simply not true that death is inevitable.
The existential terror of death is not something that can be easily dealt with, nor should it be. I will go over the coping mechanisms used and why the solution I propose is not a cope, but in fact the solution for death.
## Pain of Death
There is a common misconception I run into, where people seem to think those afraid of death or dying, are scared because they believe it to be painful. I find this odd.
I don't think these people are saying this because they lack a fear of death. They say it because they are coping, and have repressed their own fears. I say they are coping because I don't want to believe they are so stupid that they just don't grasp the concept of death.
Pain sucks. Pain is bad. Some people will try to escape pain through death. However it isn't the pain that is feared, especially when we consider the positivity bias. Most people likely think their death will be painless and yet fear it anyway.
The real fear people have is of non existence. The ceasing to exist is what gets us. We want to live and even though most of us realize that living is about pain management and that sometimes pain can be so unbearable that we seek death, Nobody wants to seize existing unless they have developed a cope where they believe death is like falling asleep or like being in darkness or unless they believe in an afterlife.
Now this isn't to say that death copes are inherently bad. They are bad if they cause us to forsake happiness in this life for an eternal bliss in the next. . I also believe that there are some people who take use death copes to do horrible crimes, for example how John List thought he was sparing his life pain and sending them to heaven. He allowed his death cope to be so believable that he actually thought he was helping his family.
## Death Copes
There is a myriad of death copes but they can mostly be narrowed down to 4 things, and they are copes used by almost everyone.
- 1. Immortality through religion
- 2. immortality through genetics
- 3. immortality through becoming a historical figure
- 4. immortality through the fountain of youth
### 1. Immortality through religion
This is a cope that if you follow God close enough, or that if you are a good enough person than you will have an afterlife. While God may be real or your religion true, it is for most people just a cope to deal with the inevitability of death and ease their existential dread.
### 2. Immortality through genetics
Many people think they can escape death through creating children. That some piece of them will survive in their children and that they will live forever through them. Most people with an urge to create children are expressing this coping mechanism.
### 3. Immortality through becoming famous
Many try to achieve immortality by living on forever in the minds of others. Very few realize that they are dead whether people know who they are or not.
### 4. Immortality through the fountain of youth
While the radical life extension people get it right (more on them later), there is a large group who chases the philosophers stone, or the fountain of youth. Like many of the religious folks they seek a magical fix for their problem and while radical life extension people may fall into this category, it isn't necessarily so. Many just think of death as unethical and would readily give their life to preserve the lives of others, even knowing that death is permanent.
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All of these copes are bad, because they get in the way of actually solving for death. You essentially have two options once you come to accept death as inevitable. You can either lay down and die, but have a blast in the mean time with unbridled hedonism or you can fight the heroic battle and save some lives.
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@Savant
You said 2 days so I just hobbled some of my writing together. Please read the next 5 or 6 posts.
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@Savant
I am going to submit an essay to him. Can you have him read it and give me feedback?
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Fair enough don't ask about the comments being turned off, but it does go against the principles of the socratic method to turn off comments.
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@Savant
No his lectures are titled, I will skip to the relevant ones.
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Question 1.
Why is the comments on his lectures disabled?
It seems like it isn't conducive to discussing the material in the location people will congregate to watching his material
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Here is the course on death. Anyone want to split up watching it so it can be appropriately argued against in the short amount of time we have?
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEA18FAF1AD9047B0&si=lQYgZxToVHwsSe6V
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I found his course on death. I just don't have time to watch it in 48 hours bro. Like wtf
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@Savant
can you link me to his work on death?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
This isn't exactly a detective mystery. The wealth got siphoned off by vampires
Reported for antisemitism
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A larger workforce does usually mean poorer Americans. It's why prior to women entering the workforce everyone owned single family homes and had 2 cars
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@IwantRooseveltagain
They are the Neocons and I think me and you can agree that neocons are irredeemable and will not be missed
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casey (1/5) Austin,
Disc (5/5) Pie, whiteflame, casey, owen, DISC
Disc has been lynched he is INNOCENT
Casey has been assassinated and she is GUILTY
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@badger
Another question. Do you think liberals might be more agreeable on issues like the border and crime if they weren't contending with actual legitimate self-proclaimed Nazis on the right? It's a give an inch take a mile kinda thing, right? A political tug of war. If liberals leave any slack at all, they're wiped.
I agree with this. It was a mistake for the right to create a culture war and what you mentioned is the result of that and yes the right is fully to blame,
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@badger
Does it not give you pause that you're aligned with white supremacists and literal Nazis?
Richard Spencer has endorsed Biden. A lot of Nazis hate Trump for his pro Jewish stance
That Trump has previously refused to disavow white supremacists?
He hasn't he has disavowed them. He was at some point asked this in like 20 interviews even after disavowing it and he bitched at the reporters and then disavowed them again. Some republican strategists have said he should have just immediately disavowed them in the interviews and that he was being unreasonable by expecting everyone to know who he has and has not disavowed prior to the interviews.
That Trump's election saw a dramatic increase in hate crimes against minorities?
At that time people were literally being attacked for wearing red hats. One famous example is the guy known as "bike lock man", and we also have several examples of people faking hate crimes on themselves. Just recently this senator was arrested for faking a hate crime https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-democratic-candidate-charged-faking-racist-comments-himself but you have the famous examples of rachel Dolezal and Jussie Smollet. I think it's a bit of a social contagion. I don't understand why electing somebody who believes border security or who is populist would cause people to commit hate crimes. It;s not like he would pardon any of them, so I don't get the logic of somebody going "Trump got elected so I am going to kill me some black people" .
Liberals aren't going to vote in the next Hitler.
I think Nikki Haley was basically the next Hitler and in open primaries Democrats tried to get her to beat Trump so they are playing with fire a bit, though even she would not be as bad as Hitler.
It's my personal belief that the only thing that keeps the country from sliding into tyranny is the bill of rights and personally I look for candidates who will better protect the Bill of Rights. When Bush was a bigger threat to the Bill of rights I voted Democrat. Now I believe it is the left. Freedom of speech of course being the biggest issue, which is why I have had issues with Texas and Florida recently attempting to create bills that threaten to harm my ability to criticize Jews, judaism and Israel.
With that said, I think Trump has some very clear weaknesses, but those aren't things you would likely notice. He is a bit of a security threat, I will list some reasons off the top of my head.
1. His twitter account was hacked into twice. His first password was "You're fired" his second password was something like "MAGA2020" . So this is not how you prevent an enemy from accessing your twitter profile. Somebody that can send out a single tweet and do a lot of damage with just that tweet.
2. He let classified information slip that America bombed the nordstream pipeline. He does this often.
3. When shot at, he is not supposed to be standing up pumping his fists. He is supposed to bend over at the waist and follow the directions of the secret service. He also remained unsafe by refusing to move until he retrieved his shoes, so he didn't help his security detail at all.
There is more. I do have concerns about him. I am not just on his nuts. I just do not believe that he is the next Hitler and I am more concerned about the norms being violated to harm him than I am with the norms he is violating himself.
I also view Trump as somewhat of an empty vessel. He is whatever the MAGA movement tells him to be and right now the paypal mafia and their avatars are in control of his administration. The project 2025 people essentially failed at their coup attempt, which I knew that even if they did fill out his administration, some shit is just so stupid it would never fly. The porn ban as one example. There will never be a porn ban in the United States due to the 1st amendment.
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