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@Lunatic
Yeah pie said you were doctor in the PM. Probably at least one scum team member picked up on it also. No major loss to claim here.
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@Mikal
If Casey is town he is scum. So which means you and him would be the scum team. I don't think RM can be scum so it's my opinion that it is extremely unlikely he is scum
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@Lunatic
Mikal has a point with his confirmation resting on you I was pretty sure we could lynch Casey with no further information but I think town may be over powered here so I support your claim.
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That's a fair point by Mikal. I have no strong interest in whether lunatic claims or not as a result of that logic
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@Lunatic
If it comes down to you claiming I will just put more information so the decision is more clear today. No biggie. I think we just lynch Casey. I also will put more information if whiteflame feels forced to claim so the decision today is more clear. I don't think we need to give scum more information though and me and Pie share a PM so there is no risk of the information we share going away absent a silencer
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@whiteflame
I can only recruit one person. I thought it was clear. My bad
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@Mikal
If earth forget he mentioned no fake claims in signups then I could see him answering that way for you and then when reminded answering a different way for us. I am not concerned about it
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@Mikal
Pie is more skeptical than me. I could see it being the way we phrased the question. We phrased it by asking if signups were accurate, he clarified "in terms of fake claims" we said yes and then he replied it is accurate. If you asked about fake claims dectlyningan see getting a different answer.
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In me and Pie's shared PM earth answered that the signups were accurate in their entirety. Not sure why he hasn't answered publicly or why the response to Mikal
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@Mikal
Wylted. Assuming your role is real. Could you have added scum?
Yes it's possible although in light of some things that have occured this DP, highly unlikely
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I also had a justification for it that you criticized for sounding like a Wikipedia article . It was not and I repeat definitely not Chat GPT condensing my PM into 2 sentences and me paraphrasing those 2 sentences enough to avoid technically breaking a rule.
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I feel like if we all are taking him at his word in the sign ups than he is obligated to correct the record if anything changes.
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I was getting a ton of pressure from you in the mafia pm begging me not to answer mharmans questions
WTF lol.
You guys that beg mods need to stop and it's pretty transparent the goal is manipulation of predefined rules when it happens
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If he said there were no fake claims in the set up, there is no reason to believe he changed that
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@Mikal
Pie can verify my results when I die so your role wouldn't be for me. Although you could check to see if he is lying by using it
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I don't think you can say it was for attention given no manifesto left. He has great opsec. You also couldn't claim mental illness again because of the great opsec.
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@Double_R
anyone on the left is 'on the side of those who tried to assassinate Trump'
Just deep state actors . His secret service was scaled back.
Only in your world is registering to vote republican a sign of likely Democratic activism.
It doesn't but a lot of Democrats did register to vote Republican to help Nikki Haley that year. It's not a sign of being conservative given the donations to liberal causes. Why would a hardline Republican try to kill the only real Republican running for president?
The Republican registration can be explained and I explained it. You have yet to give any explanation for the donation to act blue.
But the fact that he grew up in a Trump supporting household and his classmates recalled that he was clearly ideologically conservative... Well that means nothing.
No it's doubtful that a person donating money to liberals is openly conservative. Also my parents are libtards so it makes sense that he isn't the same as his parents and I doubt his parents are real Republicans either. Don't they have deep state ties?
Oh, and he also researched Joe Biden's schedule to see when he would be coming to Butler PA, but I'm sure that doesn't mean anything either.
I assume it means he wanted to attend a Biden event because he supported him. You probably had a million people doing that. If his real target was Biden I am pretty sure he would have targeted Biden . What is your theory that he was MAGA and since Biden wasn't in town he targeted Trump?
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@Lunatic
If I am wrong there can only be one reason why and I would be the NK.
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@Lunatic
Is the information like damning damning?
Yes, but let. Me cap how much I am giving away right here.
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@Lunatic
Tell me if it were me telling you "I think town should just trust me" and roles were reversed what would your reaction be?
I have no ideal. This was hoping for trust not expecting it. I think if the information is revealed we would definitely lynch Casey and keep the utility of something while lynching her. If it's revealed we lynch Casey but lose the utility of it.
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I have information that will 100% condemn Casey but I think town should just trust me. I also think I shouldn't reveal my result because it's an innocent and by not revealing yet it protects who I copped innocent from being the NK giving us a confirmed town in DP3.
But everyone should trust me when I say that Casey is scum here.
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@AdaptableRatman
It's probably Casey then. Let's not ignore savants read either
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He probably thinks me prodding him was about disagreements because I don't normally make my intent clear but it was always about learning.
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@Savant
I don't think I have ever disagreed with a whiteflame vote and I learned how to judge debates by watching him and prodding him for his reasons behind his decisions. When I actually am able to give a debate full effort I also make my arguments in a way I think would appeal to his style of voting since I believe it's objectively correct.
I think I disagree with him on one point. Say you have 2 scenarios
Argument A. This is a bigger threat right now and stays a consistent 30% threat
Argument B- this is a 10% threat but increasing at an exponential rate.
He would consider argument B to be more of a threat and think that's where resources should go. I personally think you attack the A problem until B is a bigger threat and then and only then shift focus.
He is a better voter than me though and the best here who at least votes on occasion.
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@Savant
Yeah grading votes would be awesome. Give them an elo for their votes also
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@Savant
It's the same thing if you game votes here you just delete them, but those who want low effort votes also are still encouraged to vote. The vote point differentials for length could be like
1 point for no explanation
3 points for 500-2000 characters
5 points for 10k characters
It wasn't abused on edeb8
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I like what latest did where votes were waited by length. Though imperfect, longer votes are generally more well thought out and should be weighed more heavily
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I think I am going to have pie carry out the investigation in case I am killed, but if he is killed I will still get the result
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My vote on savant is not for policy reasons. My thoughts mirror both RMs and Casey's but the reason Casey gave me holds heavier weight. I said between games before this even started the moment savant rolls scum he won't have the patience for that shit, but there are also legitimate concerns about his behavior irrespective of that
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I liked the title of the thread thinking it's worth discussing. Then I see it's Remy and am disappointed. We need a serious take on this issue
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@AdaptableRatman
I am open to switch to Mikal if he doesn't vote Savant soon.
I town read Mikal. I will literally lynch anyone but town reads so I am pretty open but not with him. It isn't a strong read but it's something
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@Lunatic
Never thought I would hear myself say this, but AR actually makes a good point here.
He is making a ton of good points in my opinion which is why I scheduled an appointment with my psychologist on friday
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@Lunatic
Whiteflame needs to hammer savant just in case savant is town and trying to draw a lynch.
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@whiteflame
So your point is "lynch your townread because I believe scum will be on whatever other lynch is setup." That's not a super convincing argument for why Savant is scum.
How would scum preferring one lynch to another not be strong evidence that the lynch they prefer is more likely to be town?
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@ILikePie5
I’m fine with the mass claim. For the record though, I think it’s a cheap move, but it’s technically the mod’s fault for not providing fake claims or the opportunity to get a fake claim.
This would be my objective to it. I think for correct balance scum should have about an 80% chance of victory
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@Savant
That's what I'm thinking, gives us insurance if people are a little off on the timing.
If they are a little off timing they should be policy lynched
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@Savant
Could we all claim at 6PM EST on the dot tomorrow? I feel like that's enough time to get agreement from everyone.
I have already claimed so it doesn't need to be a time I agree with
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@Mikal
Is that something that can even be coordinated? I am down if we can coordinate it but that's easy for me to say since my claim is out there. We all seem to be on around 8pm Easter from what it seems
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How would we go about mass claiming if we did. It would be fair to have savant lead the claim right and then popcorn?
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One vote man that's too close for comfort
Unvote
We still have time to make sure this decision is right
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@Double_R
. He also researched killing many different celebrities. So when it comes to his motive, pretty much everything we know about him conflicts with each other, and yet you take the one factoid that supports your narrative while ignoring the rest.
So let's look at the facts
1. Donates money to share blue - liberal thing
2. Registers to vote Republican when a bunch of Democrats were shilling for Nikki Haley who is openly fascist. Could be either thing but probably a liberal thing
3. Kills Republican-
4. researched celebrities. No evidence any intent to murder random celebrities but he did research them most likely because he is really into celebrity culture or something. Not affiliated with political party but often liberals are caught up in Hollywood culture and go to it for their beliefs.
5. Trump supporting household. Likely got political views from TV and friends like most plebs. Doesn't mean anything
Do cost benefit analysis for him and it's pretty obvious what he analyzes in his cost benefit analysis that determined killing trump was a good move. It actually could effect politics while a cost benefit analysis for killing a random celebrity makes no sense and it's a leap to think he would merely because he googled a celebrity name.
Yeah, cause Twitter bots are a great representation of what the average person is thinking.
True
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@AdaptableRatman
That's up to them but if they prioritize me it gives you an opportunity to dream
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@AdaptableRatman
Let's just see how things play out but my of mharman last DP was absolute shit last game so my only credibility is that I am most likely town. They'll trust their own judgement above mine.
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@Mikal
He has a result mid day ?
No result. It didn't specify it was a night ability so I tried but earth shit it down
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