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@ADreamOfLiberty
I was originally on the genocide all Karen's bandwagon when barbecue Betty came out. I gave it some thought though.
Amedical is essentially dying because social Norms are not enforced and in white culture the unfuckable women usually have the role of enforcing societal norms.
Amedical is essentially dying because social Norms are not enforced and in white culture the unfuckable women usually have the role of enforcing societal norms.
My theory is the attack on Karen's is just another way to defeat white culture. Remove the people enforcing societal norms so we can continue our descent into becoming a 3rd world country.
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@7000series
Vote with me. or not.
I get this feeling that you know for a fact every member of one scum team, so I am down
VTL RATIONAL MADMAN
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@whiteflame
You seem very confident. How do you know his faction kills on odd nights?
I just wouldn't put it past 7k to be in the same scum PM as him and be saying this and that would be why he is so confident
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Too many complaints about your society? Just kill the complainers. Problem solved.
Thats a Jewish stereotype . I am shocked to see you use it, but also proud of you for advocating genocide against jews
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@Barney
I thought saying good budgie was enough because I was under the impression people knew the only good budgie is a dead budgie.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
lol, well that is the classic solution isn't it.
It works. In less than 5 years Hitler fixed the German economy and got rid of the Jewish influence that caused the degeneracy of the Weimar republic. Also Julijs Caesar did a ton of Good as did napoleon.
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@sadolite
Make living on the streets illegal and create encampments to house and feed the homeless.
The current shelters kind of act like encampment. I knew better than to go to one when I was homeless. The rules make it impossible to get a job. I slept behind some bushes at Costco and went to day labor and worked myself out of it.
We are a free country and everyone should have a right to be homeless.
Have you heard of the Appalachian wild people?
They exist. It isn't surprising they exist but there I some doubt that they do. Anyway it's harmless to stay in the woods panning for gold to support yourself with cans of beans from the dollar store and fishing in a stream.
I don't see an issue with somebody being homeless if they want. It isn't for me but they aren't hurting anybody. For every homeless person you see that is a pain in the ass for society are probably 4 you don't.
I ran into one today who was very unpleasant to deal with and I think a mental institution would have taken care of him if liberals didn't ban them, but I probably ran into 2 more and didn't even know about their predicament
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@sadolite
Reducing homelessness is easy. Not that it should be a focus in politics but here you go.
1. Bring back insane asylum
2. Ban renting out single family homes
3. Close the border and deport illegals to reduce further demand
4. Shut down these corporations like Blackrock from buying up si gle fa ILY homes I. Whatever evil plot they have to create more homeless.
Just make me dictator adi can literally fix everything in less than 72 hours
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The lengths some people will go through to support pedophilia is amazing
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@Best.Korea
Guys, I promise you that my threads aint gonna get any better.
It never feels good to vote for the lesser of 2 evils
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If I have to be everybody's daddy here I will. I give you guys until Wednesday to get your shit together
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As I write this. Here are the 5 threads on the new threads list. The first thing you notice on the site.
I want to join a cult https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10691-i-want-to-join-a-cult
A diary entry essentially that is all fluff and no substance.
Do you think yourself a good person. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10691-i-want-to-join-a-cult
It is followed up with "Do you?" When you click on the thread.
This is not twitter and this is not your personal blog. Please cut this shit out.
Secularism view of man vs. the religious view. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10693-secularism-view-of-man-vs-the-religious-view
It's followed with
"The secular view of mankind is there are those that are good people.
The religious side of things particularly biblically based, all people are sinners, no good.
Which system do you accept that makes you comfortable and feel good about yourself?"
It's essentially another Twitter post with no substance.
Next thread "Sinner what you gonna do?"
A fluff post which is better served being a blog post on a personal blog or in a diary.
Final thread is titled list of bad things https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10695-list-of-bad-things
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So the site is being flooded with stupid shit non stop. Low effort posting and if it wasn't this shit it would be a 1 sentence statement after a catchy thread title and the 1 sentence thread post would be accompanied by a link to a video or a news paper article.
So my request from this community is to please actually use some level of effort in your posting.
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I think number 11 is targeting me
Also the title of the thread should be
"31 bad things (you won't believe number 17)"
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@FLRW
Can you explain th relevance of randomly bashing Tim pool in a thread about the may 29th insurrection?
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@Barney
That immediately reminds me of having had the misfortune of while in university having known a self-identified ANTIFA person, who got so far into that he turned into a Hitler quoting pro-genocide Neo-Nazi without realizing it and being utterly blind to the irony
A while back there was a professor taking mean kampf but rewording it to appeal to leftist antifa types and he was getting a lot of praise on the left until people caught on. I can't remember his name though.
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@7000series
Wylted IS the hero. Without members like Wylted, this site would go to absolute shit. Imagine an online community where everybody acts like RationalMadman
I appreciate the comment. Also thanks for taking a stand against evil
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I regret bringing you back, but I also didn't realize you would minimize child rape by making it the equivalent to an edgy joke
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jesus christ now your feelings being hurt is the same as a child being raped or ignoring a cry for help from a member who wants to kill himself. Get perspective
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19 million child brides in Pakistan.
The fact that RM doesn't know the difference between making edgy racist comments and raping children, doesn't reflect well on his character.
If we decide it is morally reprehensible to make edgy comments, raping children is still bad
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I want to start out by saying that this site should remain a free speech platform. It has a duty to remain a free speech platform and it's certainly okay and even recommended to be an edge lord. However some real and legitimate extremists exist in real life and we have an ethical obligation to interact with them in a certain way. Some things on the site remain in this area where they are taken too seriously. If I say the N word for example, there is a good chance I get banned. It's just a word. It hurts nobody. Neither does it hurt anybody for you to take an extreme or crazy position in a debate or in a forum post.
So we are in this absolutely fucking insane position as a site where trolling gets treated as a serious offense while genuinely concerning things are overlooked. I am by no means advocating for less freedom of speech, but for us as a community to behave more responsibly towards serious situations. I am not going to name names or get too specific but this is a small site so people likely no who I am talking about or what I am talking about.
I want this also not to be about specific situations but the attitude of the community as a whole. 2 important takeaways before I start.
1. Stop taking non serious stuff seriously
2. Start taking serious stuff seriously
Example 1
Recently a debate challenge was issued. Somebody was asking for their opponent to talk them into suicide. I accepted the debate afraid of who might take the debate if I didn't. I started the first round by giving resources to suicide prevention advocates and then proceeded to ignore the instigators request to talk him into suicide.
This is serious. somebody could end up dead. It doesn't get much more serious than this. There was an opportunity here to maybe get the person the help they need. Instead of site leaders PMing the guy and seeing what they could help him with. Instead of removing the debate before some immature kid or sociopath could accept it and try to talk the guy into suicide, what happened was that a mod informed anybody who might accept that they would not be crossing any lines by accepting the debate and talking the instigator into suicide.
There are at least 3 active mods on the site. So at least 3 people who can step up and say . Maybe we should do something here for this guys own good. There are lots of community members here and not very many have reached out to the individual to see if they could just be a shoulder to cry on. I understand the site isn't really built for that, but where is the humanity? Where is the empathy for a person that is likely experiencing a very tough time in their lives.
This community has already experienced one suicide and yet we are going to miss some red flags here and just let it go.
Example 2
Again I would like to emphasize that extremists should be welcome here. We want them here. Ultimately pretty much every form of extremism is due to cognitive biases and logical fallacies that the debate community should be well equipped to handle. So when an extremist makes an argument in a debate, what is the role of their opponent's? What is the role of the judges?
Their opponent's role is to put up the best fight they are capable of, to pursue the most persuasive case they can. The judges role, besides being a fair judge is to use their RFDs to outline the weaknesses of the arguments of the extremist even if they think the extremist won. If the extremist won than you point out his and his opponent's flaws and then you award the extremist his point. It's simple he gets the opportunity to become a better person and you fulfilled your duty as a human being who loves society.
To my surprise I come across a debate where one person is defending muhhamed having sex with a 9 year old. There is nothing wrong with defending this position. The debater defending the position did nothing wrong. Their argument was essentially that 9 years old should be considered an adult and the child was not being molested because technically 9 years old is old enough to have sex with a grown man.
Pro in the description of the debate defined the terms in such a way that having sex with a 9 year old would be considered pedophilia even if some culture considered 9 years old the age of an adult. So this is essentially a concession by con. Con admits that it is pedophilia though he has provided an alternative definition after he already agreed to the original one.
Later on both sides agree to tie the debate. The debaters don't get to decide what the judges do though. It's a great opportunity to actually come out against child marriage. But why is this important?
well normally it wouldn't be important. If you think it is a devil's advocate position. However in the debate con has made it clear that he legitimately thinks sex with 9 year olds is fine. He isn't trolling. He is very devout Muslim who comes from Pakistan.
Why is this important?
Devout Muslims in pakistan have resisted every effort to create a minimum age in marriages . In Pakistan about 20% of girls marry before 18 https://www.dw.com/en/why-underage-marriages-are-still-prevalent-in-pakistan/a-63860202 . About 5% total are married before the age of 15 and many of those girls are as young as 5 years old.
So we have an individual on the site who is defending a child marriage who comes from a region of the world where there is at least a 20% chance he marries a child, but if you consider his faith and his status in society and his political positions it is likely closer to 50% he will marry a child.
This is an excellent opportunity for the judges to award him a loss because he technically lost prior to the agreement to tie. It is also an excellent opportunity for the judges to point out how morally reprehensible it is to have sex with and Marry children.
Instead they just all conspire to tie the debate and in the comment section instead of expressing moral outrage at con who may reconsider marrying a child, who may urge those he loves to not marry children if he is persuaded, instead they merely type in the vote "tied as agreed upon"
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Between this and the mental gymnastics done to support the terrorist attacks against innocent Israelis on this site I am not sure I can be here much longer. Maybe I fulfill my debate commitments. Maybe I fulfill a few other ones and then leave, but I might just go. It was nice knowing a lot of you . This time really is different though. I want to be a part of a debate community. However I don't know that I can continue to see the moral decay of the site and it not effect me on an emotional level. I am on discord on the sites discord server. friend me if you want and message me if I decide to drop off the face of the Earth. I may get back to you, I may not.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Hi rez already using bloodbath for his trump rap
https://youtu.be/0TwnH-gmRG0?si=8cV7tYSHATMTZpja
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Todd was a very impactful character. I remember him. The little reboot they had for the series the movie. He was very distracting as he had gotten fat and his scenes took place just after breaking bad ended and it just had an odd feel
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A better way to show you the difference is Breaking Bad since you're a fan of it.
It's creepy that you know this but I have probably mentioned it before on here and consider myself to probably be more like walt than Gus. GUS is basically who Walt wishes he could be
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@FishChaser
You are getting off topic. You can atleast be a sociopath or a psycopath with high self esteem.
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Paycopath just sounds worse which is why I reversed the order. Apparently sociopathy is worse than psycopathy but sounds less bad.
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I think you are right. I should reverse the terms
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I do differentiate in the following ways
Sociopath- no human emotion usually. Maybe some but definitely not empathy
Psycopath- enjoys harming others
The DSM5 I think conflate narcissism with psycopathy and uses the umbrella term ASPD for sociopathy but I think of sociopathy as a subset of ASPD
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Don't report him for advocating genocide against Christians if the mods ban him than he likely won't express the thought elsewhere and will likely stop having people around that will encourage him to get help.
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@FishChaser
Even if that isn't true though, I still hate Christians from the bottom of my heart and would exterminate every single one of them just to get back at that one guy.
Why are you convinced you are a sociopath?
You do know that sociopaths are usually incapable of revenge fantasies. It isn't that they are against revenge it's just that they don't give a shit. Negative experiences are just good for pattern recognition for a sociopath.
You are not a sociopath. You re somebody with trauma and you need to find a good therapist to help you work through it.
It took me like 5 psychologists to find one that was actually good at their job but it was worth it.
You aren't bad. You are not a sociopathic monster. You are just somebody who has been hurt and needs help healing. Try better talk or talk space. It's a non threatening way to get help. If you have insurance than use that to get help.
Most of us have had some form of trauma. I have some myself. I hate foster parents for example. Maybe your hate of christians never goes away but maybe you can feel better about your self. Seek help
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@FishChaser
Crazy how they let hate groups like Christians operate but not relatively benign ones like Nazis.
this antagonism of christians is silly . you literally have muslims that strap bombs to themselves and kill different religions or you have them literally throwing fags from roofs but your focus is on christians who shake their head in mild disapproval instead of the groups who actually murder and rape their enemies.
If you are a homosexual a muslim sees you as an enemy that needs to be stoned. A christian would just feel bad for you and maybe try to ask you to stop being gay. One is annoying. one is dangerous and you focus on the annoying. It is weird.
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We have different opinions here and we may have to debate it at some point. we both believe in info hazards but i believe that censorship is more of a threat than info hazards. it's not something we can likely hash out here. it is personal values
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yes and you suspiciously don't want people to recognize the rhetoric and have the ability to shut it down.
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Self help is inherently right wing and thus politics. Plus this is specifically about cancel culture
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@Best.Korea
Most racists want to censor history because they want to seeing repeated instead of having people familiarize themselves with the rhetoric
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Why are we all getting his recommendations. Love the guy and his advice is spot on.
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@Best.Korea
I am over this.
I was triggered for a day, but now I dont care.
Me too my town read of pie was wrong but I thinkni could have reconsidered after I went after GP in DP3
Next game I gonna play completely different, even if I am again doctor.
In a game of mostly vanilla just fake claim vanilla there but ultimately it doesn't matter because you were not scum read for your claim
I ill say the extreme tunneling started to change my mind because usually extreme tunneling is a town tell but at that point you were tunneling so I don't think I could have got you to help me with a joebob or GP lynch. I believe I asked for help with a joebob lynch which I believe would have narrowed everyone's scum pool because nobody town read him but I guess nothing was going to help
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Ultimately he was antitown but I disagree with the consistent logic. I even said after seeing how hard he was tunneling that I thought there was a good chance he was town but he was forcing him to vote him instead of joebob and I wanted to lynch GP but he was off the table for me because nobody wanted to come along.
There is nothing wrong with lynching a town read if they are a liability in LYLO and he was one because ultimately he couldn't stop bullish from voting and I think bullish would have considered waiting if I wanted to ask through the lynch with him.
Having a town read and protecting them is not always best. Imagine if you town read joebob instead of eliminating him from a lot of people's scum pools. You would literally leave the game in his hands in a LYLO situation
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Behaviorally he was scum. You are just bad at the game if you don't understand that. I also offered to lynch GP but BK and Austin were both unwilling to lynch anyone in their null reads.
I was the only one willing to lynch GP. Also one of th last things I said at the end of DP2 is that GP confessed to being scum bit apparently town wanted to ignore an actual confession on DP3
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I was willing to vote for scum. Bk wasn't neither was Austin. They had on blinders. Not sure why you would blame me. I had like 4 people I was willing to negotiate a lynch on.
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@Best.Korea
We all make mistakes, it isn't a big deal. However you do see how lynching null reads still moves us closer to lynching scum don't you?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It's an expiring goldmine though. It's only a matter of time before people get over themselves and start using a lot more nuclear. Then coal will be a novelty resource. Maybe useful for straight heat production and that's about it.
It really is the best alternative and with these LLMs using so much electricity and every big company wanting their own it may be worth investing some sheckles into companies that are positioned to build nuclear power plants
There are no holes in the ozone anymore, and very little energy was carried by as UV. Also if the cartoon theory of global warming was right having less ozone means less "greenhouse" gas so it should cool us down right?
I remember the banning of freeon or however it is spelled and I did hear it was having some positive impact but since the ban happened in the early 90s, I guess this shows how out of date my knowledge is.
broken windows fallacy
I have heard of broken windows policing and have seen it called a fallacy but that can't be what you are talking about hear, so the criticism is unfamiliar
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I am not going to be able to defend the position well outside of a formal debate where I allow myself more time to research. You made great points and my effort in that response was to steelmam a position I disagree with. I wanted to point out that op was strawmanning. I think I presented a position I disagree with, much better than he presented a position he disagrees with and that I was more fair to my ideological opponents.
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@AustinL0926
You don't know how to PM people on the site?
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@AustinL0926
I think lunatic has his inbox set up to ping his email. He will probably ant to play
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@TheUnderdog
James comey is a smart guy. An FBI director who prides himself on being above politics. Why does he do this? He wants to feel superior to others who are passionately left wing or right wing.
I think you believe that you can position your arguments as unassailable because you are not politically aligned. You can get away without many rebuttals because whether your opponents are left or right you can claim they are biased.
You are most likely unaware of this internal drive on a conscious level as is James comes.
You asked me to point out your strawman so I will be defending the leftist position. Note that I disagree with the position I am defending.
The Left: Ban Coal!
Straw man that likely only applies to a few leftist retards. Most people on the left will want to gradually reduce coal usage by slowly switching to nuclear power as well as some alternative sources of energy and these people are often sensitive to how this will harm coal mining towns and also seek to teach the people in these industries new skills through subsidies that are directed towards places like rural west Virginia.
They also seek to slowly increase carbon taxes and international agreements on co2 emissions so that way the industry very slowly and gradually becomes less profitable and this gradual but consistent pressure should result in industries getting creative to cut CO2 emissions and start seeking alternative fuel sources. The gradual increase means industries also have time to adjust so we don't harm.
It should also be noted that the United States has more coal than any other country. Power in history has always followed countries who were the best at energy production so decreasing coal usage even if it is not replaced with renewable puts the United States in a position to be very dominant in the energy sector once the world has to start moving towards coal. So reducing coal usage now pays off in the future and is part of foreign policy.
TL: .02 degrees Celsius per year.Me: Bah; that's nothing.TL: OH NO! The concern is sea level rise!
The average isn't the only concern. Atmospheric changes that cause temperature increases also make it harder for things we need to survive. If you haven't noticed we see less frogs and bees than we did as children. It's because the atmosphere while unnoticeable to us has made it harder for them to survive.
These holes in the Ozone actually make temperature swings more pronounced even if the temperature stayed the same. Meaning more natural disasters, more famine in places that can't afford famine and resources is the real reason for war so if temperature shifts are making it harder to farm in some areas, people will go to war for those resources rather than die.
: How much would it cost to go all renewable?TL: $8T.
8 trillion dollars in New jobs. American jobs instead of going to Saudi oil prince's with Isis ties sounds like a good investment in America.
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It's all straw man's bro. Their arguments are stronger than you think and conservative issues you disagree with are also less stupid than you think. You just get stuck looking at surface level arguments and you seem to be strawmanning. I am far from an environmentalist and I know they have better arguments than you give credit for.
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This is how brainwashed some of you are. This is literally happening with like half of trumps policies because he is a moderate who has many liberal and conservative values.
CNN first article 4-4-17
Everyone should have a shot at paid family leave. https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/opinions/paid-family-leave-for-all-boushey-bethell/index.html
May 22, 2017
Trump proposes paid family leave
May 30, 2017 after trump has supported paid family leave CNN now rites that paid family leave hurts women
If anyone really wants Roosevelt again they should vote Trump because he is the modern day Roosevelt.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I owe the IRS several thousand dollars. I don't intend to pay it. When they come after me I am negotiating it down to 10% of what I owe which after inflation is more like 5%.
Is this a bad strategy?
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@Bullish
Being president of the site has helped me . It's not as easy as ideologues think. I acco.plished some things I wanted to and stepped down and even what I accomplished such as an improved COC seems ignored it didn't make it on the link to he site COC. Not last I checked anyway.
I had to negotiate with a lot of different parties including the parties that shouldn't have influence over the COC such as mods but who have to enforce it so really need to buy into it.
In this game I think me and you both were willing to lynch somebody other than BK and in fact preferred to but nobody else would negotiate with us to look at other lynches outside of a very narrow amount of people. It makes me hesitant to votepoliticians with ideological blinders on for the same reason
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@Best.Korea
I shouldnt really put any effort into saving town people from being lynched by town people from now on.
If a town player like Joe is in that many scum pools it isn't going to hurt to lynch him. You didn't town read him though. He was a null read to you at best. There is zero reason not to be willing to narrow your pile by lynching a null read
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