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@n8nrgim
We do better at innovation because people can make billions by doing so. We have more doctors because capitalism allows them o get a more fair wage.
Also China is not good at innovating. They re good at providing cheap labor. When you see China even do stuff like cellphones they are importing the chips from Korea.
Their competitive advantage is really just their ability to throw a bunch of people at a problem and pay them very little. There merchant is just worse than just about any other country and it is hard for new businesses to work with them because of all the scamming. Usually it involves bribing the local police in a region where you et up your factory so they can keep scammers and others from coming in and wrecking the place and stealing your stuff. It also helps because they will punish people that scam you.
I know this because I was looking to learn Chinese for business purposes and quit early on because I started looking at how international business was conducted with the Chinese and I just can't be a part of the corruption needed to accomplish good business. Either the corruption of bribing local officials or the corruption of exploiting cheap labor.
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I am down to make that adjustment if this gets 7 sign ups by day 7 instead of 12.
My wife is out BTW and I begged her like a child.
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You can still.join if you want. I know you are a bit on the paranoid side. There isn't a way for me to do this without the ability to atleast PM your role. Maybe I could have somebody not playing PM you it on my behalf. I am ure there is a work around.
I don't think it will work without some sort of recruitment from the majority of players. I guess we will see how bad people want to revibe mafia. If thy o they will be motivated. If not, no skin off my back. You just tell the friend it is like among us or th show traitors and seeif they are down.
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@ILikePie5
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@Lunatic
If this is something that interests you than do it. If not than please don't.
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@Barney
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@Greyparrot
Okay get in here. Get one of your students to join and consider it a form of learning media literacy since it helps to tune your bullshit detector.
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If you are some incel with not even a single IRL friend who you c drag into shit they have no interest in than I think we can male an exception and you can sign up alone but try your best.
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@whiteflame
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@Mharman
If you are still down go here and bring a friend
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@Vader
I started one. You need to recruit one player to join it in order to play though.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10556-mafia-signups
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No theme game 12 players . 3 of the players will be mafia and there will be one cop and one doctor. Everyone else is vanilla. In order to play in the game you must recruit one player to also play. Preferably the player is from the outside world, but they can be from this website. Also I am open for suggestions into how to make the game more balanced but I would like to keep the game really simple so as to not scare away first time players.
Plurality lynching will be in effect.
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@Sidewalker
Trump said he would reduce the debt as President, he increased the debt by $7.8 Trillion.
He's trying to fix military spending for Putin maybe.
Claim made by me - Trump is trying to get nayo countries to increase military spending to be 2% of their GDP
Your response- this means that Russia would increase their military spending
Russia is not part of Nato smooth brain.
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The moral argument for universal healthcare is simple: more people receiving medical care means fewer preventable deaths. If universal healthcare, such as single-payer, leads to less death, then it is obviously the superior moral choice. Politicians like Bernie Sanders will go a step further and claim that Republican legislation, in fact, kills people by reducing government-sponsored coverage.
Yet, what if there were evidence to suggest that more people would die under a universal healthcare scheme than under the current US system? What if, by the left’s standards, the American healthcare system is less of a killer than the average European one?
Consider the best estimates of how many people die in the US due to a lack of healthcare. The question is hotly contested, and approximations range from 0 to 45,000 people per year. The latter figure is obviously what most progressives prefer to cite, and although there’s much to doubt about this number, let’s for the sake of argument accept that approximately 45,000 fewer people would die in the US every year if all Americans had decent health insurance.
Now flip the question: How many people die in other countries due to deficiencies in their healthcare systems? And how many people would die in the US if we had treatment outcomes similar to those in other countries?
Socialized Healthcare Has Clear Life-Costs
A study by the Fraser Institute titled The Effect of Wait Times on Mortality in Canada estimated that “increases in wait times for medically necessary care in Canada between 1993 and 2009 may have resulted in between 25,456 and 63,090 (with a middle value of 44,273) additional deaths among females.” Adjusting for the difference in populations (the US has about 9 times as many people), that middle value inflates to an estimated 400,000 additional deaths among females over a 16 year period. This translates to an estimated 25,000 additional female deaths each year if the American system were to suffer from increased mortality similar to that experienced in Canada due to increases in wait times. A system that disproportionately harms women? How progressive.
By the “US healthcare kills” logic, any tax increase that stalls productivity is tantamount to killing.
Let’s look at interventional outcomes. According to the CDC, stroke is the cause of more than 130,000 deaths annually in the United States. However, the US has significantly lower rates of 30-day stroke-induced mortality than every other OECD country, aside from Japan and Korea. OECD data suggest that the age- and sex-adjusted mortality rates within Europe would translate to tens of thousands of additional deaths in the US.
If America had the 30-day stroke-mortality rate of the UK, for example, we could expect about an additional 38,000 deaths a year. For Canada, that number would be around 43,500. And this only accounts for mortality within a month of having a stroke, which in turn accounts for only 10% of stroke-related deaths.
This is further reflected in overall stroke-mortality statistics: for every 1,000 strokes that occur annually in the US, approximately 170 stroke-related deaths occur. The latter number is 250 and 280 for the UK and Canada respectively. Considering that approximately 795,000 strokes occur each year in the US, the discrepancy in stroke-related mortality is humongous. But don’t expect NPR to run a sob story about a Canadian stroke victim who would’ve survived in an American hospital.
Similarly, cancer-survival rates are considerably higher in the US than in other countries. Check out this data cited by the CDC, which comes from the authoritative CONCORD study on international cancer-survival rates. The US dominates every other country in survival rates for the most deadly forms of cancer.
If we weight the CDC-quoted survival rates for different forms of cancer in accordance with their contribution to overall cancer mortality, we find that, with the UK’s survival rates, there would be about 72,000 additional deaths annually in the United States. There would similarly be about 21,000, 23,000, and 31,000 additional deaths per year with Canadian, French, and German survival rates.
Lives are indeed saved by the many types of superior medical outcomes that are often unique to the US. This is not to mention the innumerable lives saved each year around the world due to medical innovations that are made possible through vibrant US markets. By the “US healthcare kills” logic, any tax increase that stalls productivity, and thus stalls the rate of innovation, is tantamount to killing – which is obviously an absurd conclusion.
The Healthcare Debate Has Been Misframed by Demagogues
I’ll be the first to admit: our medical system is far from optimal. Among other things, soaring healthcare costs certainly need to be controlled, and insuring against medical calamity ought to be much more affordable. But the policy demands advanced by Sanders and his ilk are completely ignorant of the massive deficiencies that are characteristic of universal healthcare systems. They’ll sing songs all day about the 45,000 lives taken every year by greedy insurance executives and their cronies on Capitol Hill, yet remain completely ignorant of the fact that the European systems they fetishize are less humane by their own standards.
If we’re going to call Paul Ryan a killer for curtailing Medicaid spending, then we logically have to apply that epithet to all politicians who advocate for European systems – you know, the systems with outcomes that would result in tens of thousands of additional deaths in the US every year. Paul Ryan may indeed qualify for the Manslaughter Olympics, but Bernie Sanders is poised to smash the world record.
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With that said I don't think that your average rural farmer on 7 acres of land with 10k sheep and enough resources to elf sustain is enraged. These types likely just want to be left alone.
Personally I have my eyes on Bryson NC and it's likely less tha 5 years out. I just need to get the nest egg to 5 million. To justify it.
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It's why those rural.folks need to.embrace new technologies and be early adopters. I think cheap labor as a result of hiring illegal.immigrants really caused them to be slow to adopt new technologies. It's a concept I learned about reading Marx but I can't remember what he called it. A lot of Marxism is correct.
These people won't move to the cities. I lived on nothing but big cities exclusively and as soon as my nest egg is big enough to sustain me I will be leaving these hell holes to reside in Mayberry.
Personally am looking forward to living in a crime free area with no smog and plenty of room to spread your wings.
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Jews- let's flood the United States with antisemites
Also Jews- the whole country is full of antisemites and they are poisoning the minds of the gullible youth against us ***shocked Pikachu face***
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@Sidewalker
You really think we'd leave evidence like that, of course not, we destroyed the audits with our Jewish Space Lasers.
If you are Jewish than you get what you deserve by voting in leftwingers who want to import antisemites into the country from Muslim countries.
It will be even more sweet if you are a part of th free Palestine movement and the antisemitism in charge of it actually do ucceed in thir genocide.
The Jews who voted against their own destruction. Will unfortunately be negatively impacted by your actions, so I will cry for them. However when and if it comes to that, before I house and protect any Jew from the genocidal leftists who have hijacked the party I will require them to show me evidence they supported Trump in 2024, because if they supported the campus antisemitism who control the democratic party than they need to pay for that. I am trying to save you by voting trump and I am willing to save those who tried to save themselves, but sorry any jew that voted for the left gets what is coming should they win
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Oh my God, savage murderers, rapists and pedophiles are being treated bad. I changed my mind. The first guy is not based or redpilled.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I hope he will. My spanish is rough but I am brushing up right now. Teaching the kid Spanish as well.
Here is some tips . It's not like learning other things.
1. Watch peppa pig in Spanish until you enderstand 50% . There is literally no need to study beyond this and will probably require 200 hours.
2. Your next 300 hours watch Carman sandiego in Spanish. Make sure you understand 50%
3. Learn the rest of your Spanish from slice of life shows, typically sitcoms ans then when you understand what you are watching enough to keep up with the story.
4. Now you may begin speaking Spanish with natives. It will flow out without you trying
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@n8nrgim
I was searching for that citation and having a difficult time finding it. I remember reading it about 20 years ago when I was studying NDEs. Basically they just put astronauts into this fast spinning machines to replicate the g force they will feel on lift off and many pass out and report symptoms similar to NDEs.
I k ow this is true but there's no reason for you to believe me until I find a citation, so feel free to disregard
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Who is the victim of Trump Valuing Mar a Lago qt 17 million. Which if we look at the fact hunter bidets paintings are selling for $500k why do you think maralago is less valuable than 39 hunter biden paintings.
But you guys can’t stop talking about Hunter Biden.
I dont usually bring him up. I am more concerned about Biden being on a college's payroll and China coincidentally providing millions in funding to the same school who employ Biden to literally do nothing. Because this is precisely how you would hide payments from the Chinese. You wouldn't find dire t payments.
I could actually maybe even accept that sort of corruption if his policies were a net benefit to Ameica, but they harm america and democrats gaslight you into thinking that the hunter laptop story was a Russian lie and even pay off cia directors to confirm this as fact and thn say there is no deep state. That government is 100% honest accept for antiestablishment people like Bernie sanders or Donald trump
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Just a coincidence that these things were not crime until democrats got pissed at him
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Trump is trying to fix military spending by getting nato countries to spend more money on their own self defense.
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@Greyparrot
Uneven political discretion with the law is a feature of a dying civilization, not a bug.
I wish conservatives were as low class and as right wing as democrats believe they are, because I would love to see the bullshit excuses the left comes up with for their evil in kangaroo courts.
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@Critical-Tim
Do you think history could have any practical application whatsoever if this correct understanding of the past was successful and could be known as true?
Yes, even now there is likely some practical utility. For example if you can read German than all the documents looking at the internal workings of the NAZI government will give insights into how the upper echelons of governments behave in general.
For he most part it's going t be useless. Maybe understanding some stuff can help you sidestep brain washing. Like if you really understand history and have a good BS detector it would help you easily see that both Muhhamed and are clearly bullshit artists. Though it is definitely true in the latter it is not for sure with Muhhamed. Perhaps he was delusional, but more often than not he would write new shit in the Quran whenever he needed people to believe things that were very convenient for him to have them believe.
My concern is going to be of taking the words of people in history and trusting them. For example witnesses or great grand kids of witnesses which I often the case. Their interpretations of stuff should meet heavy criticism. So maybe I overstated my point about it being complete BS.
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@Sidewalker
Nobody thinks all democrats are complicit in the deepstate. Stop straw manning and address the argument.
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I listen to Hopsin. There is no way that he is not a trump supporter.
Also K RINO is rapping against the feminization of men and things of that nature while also being like "Yo let's vote democrat because it is definitely Republicans who push for tyranny shit"
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@Barney
This thread is dedicated to raging against the machine and some idiot came in here and raged for the machine. Can you please delete all posts that are raging for the machine please.
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@sadolite
It's really only the left. Look at post 30 again. The left really believes in the weird shit like chopping dicks off of 8 year olds or that it is racist to have border security. They really believe this stuff. Watch CNN for 30 minutes, It's no longer strawman arguments to associate this weird shit with the left. Back when I was a leftist it would have been strawman arguments, but spend a few hours on tiktok to see your average leftist. I don't see how you can call it gas lighting to provide accurate depictions of what they are like.
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@Double_R
Threatening NATO members to encourage Russia to attack them does not .strengthen NATO.
It most certainly does if it causes each member to contribute more to the general security of NATO countries.
t’s entire purpose literally built on trust
Wrong. NATo is not weakened by a country being brow beat into contributing 2% of their GDP into their national defense. Nor is there any reason to distrust the United States if you do what you are told to do, and comply.
so in other words Trump didn’t mean anything he said, he meant whatever you say he meant.
Good luck walking into negotiations with foreign countries by being honest. That's an awesome strategy to be the most powerful person in the room and play with your cards up.
Thank God we don't have people like you as diplomats or as Generals in the military. this "Play your cards face up" Shtick is something only midwits are stupid enough to do.
This is literally the same criticisms Trump would get for praising Kim Jung Un, because people are literally too stupid to know that threats only get you so much compliance and threats are much better if accompanied by a way to allow the leader to save face to his people, especially in asian or strong man culturess.
Is this why you never play mafia on the site? You are just a shitty strategist?
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@Best.Korea
They got his voice in English with AI.
It is very haunting. The voice does draw you in and his passionate speech, I can see it does seem to have a hypnotic quality. https://youtu.be/ZWboqo_1jC8?si=Teuue9r2febQ85iz
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Geert Wilders in response to Islamic extremists attempting to change his country's identity and values instead of coming in and being respectful of then like isexpected of all immigrants in all countries
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Marine LA Pen while not the leader of France is working her ass off to save it from complete ruin
https://youtu.be/5Yg4qb4yT9k?si=cts4sGzzuChN1Hen
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Javier milei who is literally saving Argentina from economic ruin right now and spanking the global elite
https://www.youtube.com/live/Pfcd0gWNIog?si=8K3whj3SZ8hq3PG0
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In thus thread post based and red pulled global leaders. I will go first.
Nayib bukele https://youtu.be/oxo92I-akL0?si=yTG-4Nz6fd7LzsU5
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RM,
I Want you to know right now. It doesn't matter what you have done in your past. Maybe you molested a sibling. Perhaps you murdered somebody, no matter what you did or how bad you were. If you just take a moment to pray and accept Jesus into your life than you will be forgiven. No need to pay with karma. Bow your head in silence and pray to God the following prayer.
"Dear God, I know I am a sinner. I want to turn from my sins, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ is Your Son. I believe He died for my sins and that You raised Him to life. I want Him to come into my heart and to take control of my life. I want to trust Jesus as my Savior and follow Him as my Lord from this day forward. In Jesus' Name, amen."
When you are done start reading the gospels. Maybe a chapter a day. Also start attending a local church if you can. If you can't than join an online church and find a way to get baptized.
You're going to make it bro. I love you
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We know nothing about history. They literally lie to us about current events. Now take those lies about current events 20 years ago. How they are lied about even more now. Once you get to 1000 years or more you are definitely looking at complete bullshit. It's now not o ly the original witnesses lying but their documents being destroyed and those who end th documents lying about what they meant and so on and so on.
It's honestly just guesses at this point. Guesses that are definitely wrong.
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Almost every religion tells you to do more good than bad which is the first inclination that they are false religions. Literally everyone thinks they are doing more good than bad.
If you start by rejecting every spiritual belief that tells you this, you are ahead of the curve.
It doesn't leave much religions. Not mainstream ones anyway. I think it essentially just leaves Islam and Christianity.
Muhhamaed is an obvious bullshitter who retconned Islam into every major religion surrounding him at the time . It leaves one religion that is not obvious bullshit.
The alternative to Christianity being true is that God really left us no guidebook and we are on our own.
I have no time to get into why it's dumb to think shit like planets just spontaneously popped into existence and literally nothing existed prior to the big bang.
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The Abraham's God is not the God of the righteous.
Jesus surrounded himself with sinners and said that he is not here for the righteous that the righteous already get their reward on Earth.
God came for the weak., the sinner the evil man .
Paul abused Christians and destroyed them but he was used to spread Christianity to the globe.
Moses was a stuttered and part of Pharoah royal Court who himself abused slaves. He was used to bring slaves to freedom and God also thought he was too unworthy to see the promised land so waited until he died to allow the Jews to enter.
David was a weakling. A tiny child who was probably an effeminate pussy and he single handedly brought down the Philstines.
This is the God of sinners. This is the God who even saved Jeffrey Dahmer prior to his murder and Dahmer was accepted into the Christian community and heaven.
The Abraham's God is not for Good people or the righteous. Jesus kept whores in his circle and tax collectors. He laid his head down with drunkards and Christianity was originally spread through Roman slaves and single mothers.
You don't know how God works and you believe in Karmic debt because you are being deceived into believing that if you are just good enough you will be spared.
You could cure cancer and save billions tomorrow. You are still going to hell because God doesn't care about your Karmic debt.
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Na, I bolded some insane as fuck ramblings that made no coherent sense. The Biblical saviour is not a Christian or family man but is somehow ging to say these Satanic eites when he's one of them, dude was born into elite money. He' s NY Elite not Washington Elite, that's all.
Wow the entire elite is against him but he is one of them. This is silly. No you don't get into he club by just being a billionaire lol. Do you think Saudi Billionaires are part of the Washington elite?
The Biblical saviour is not a Christian or family man
Correct see Paul who wrote the new testament and tortured and murdered christians prior to converting. Not hat conversion was even necessary for him to do God's will. Pharoah freed the Jews and he was certainly on God's shit list
I thought my second link to the YT vid would highlight the yes but not but nonsense logic you're using and show I know just how serious to take you.
Th 2nd link I cut off 2/3 through because it came across as British humor which I find disgusting. My dad used to force me to watch "are you being served" almost daily and I never laughed even once at it.
Aside from this completely and utterly contradicting you saying the Deep State is a mentality and not organised corruption (in another thread), this makes no sense.
What the fuck are you talking about? How would that assume some organized thing? You don't need to host some secret meeting to all act in a similar way.
I can assure you if the entire establishment of elites wanted anyone destroyed, they'd be long gone.
How exactly would Nancy Pelosi take me out? How would George Bush?
That's not how it works. Why are you acknowledging these elites and their evil while also openly supporting them and their initiatives? Don't you support Elizabeth Warren? Don't you support censorship on social media forums of views you find repugnant? Haven't you even come out as saying that you oppose the use of TOR browsers because thy help create online anonymity? If you really think Trumo is part of this cabal than why are you opposing him?
it's genuinely worrying that you think he's some new age Christian Messiah or whatever you're claiming.
That's a stupid interpretation of what I said especially once I expanded on it .u lessyou are dumb enough to think Christains worship Pharoah who genocided followers of the Abraham's God.
Your idea is that a scumbag who is crooked, disloyal and so far from a Christian family man in multiple ways is somehow a genuine Christian Messiah on par with disciples of Jesus.
No that is not even what was said. God can change people but this is not about changing somebody . It is about using them.
WTF is wrong with you?
Many of the disciples weren't even good people. In fact one had a hand in the murder of Jesus. So even saying he is on their level is not some great compliment but nobody is even saying that Yrump is on the level of disciples.
God used the United States to destroy Hitler because of what he was doing to his chosen people?
Americans that dropped atomic bombs on civilians they committed war crimes. When German soldiers on D-day wore American uniforms and crossed the line to try and appear like Americans they were lined up and shot execution style after being arrested. Many Nazis were tortured as POWs.
Som of the troops in their civilian life were likely rapists or serial killers even.
These people were not on par with the disciples a it is really stupid to think that just because God used them as his fist that it means they are somehow made holy or good or even decent people.
That is not how it works. He will use you even if you are flawed. He wil.yse you if he wants if you are a tyranny or a rapist or a serial killer or if you are orange.
Nobody worships trump and nobody worships WW2 vets (with he exception of boomer neocons).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I don't disagree with anything you said.
I assume best.korea has no strongly held beliefs abd just likes being controversial despite being bad at it.
I really only took issue with how sidewalker approached debunking him.
Again I agree with you almost fully here. With the exception of seeking some sort of non hypocrisy with your beliefs. In most cases your beliefs should not contradict each other but pragmatists will often use things backed by contradictory belief systems to make progress.
So as long as a pragmatist admits that the theories behind 2 different tools they are using contradict each other and maybe state "but they both seem to work" and approach the situation with a level of humility than I have no issue with it.
I would disagree with pragmatism for a number of reasons but it seems to be a system for allowing contrary beliefs to enter and is America's contribution to philosophy so I could expect to see it more often on an American centric forum.
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no, millions of Americans would have lost their insurance had the Republicans succeeded. You are misinformed.
Barw assertion. We all saw this Claim in CNN many Times.
Trump never put forward a plan himself.
It is no longer available but it was on his website I think over a year prior to when the bill started getting passed around. I think the bill as rewritten but it was in the spirit of Trump's vision.
I dont know where lefties get this ideal that Republicans want to randomly write in a bill that statesmillions of people should lose health insurance.
I wish his plan would have worked. Perhaps I would be paying less for health insurance. To cover everyone in my house all with no prior health conditions it costs me around $600 a month.
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@Greyparrot
What is the point of letting them kill off so many young men in the Ulraine if we don't attack anyway.
I expect some sort of covert missio. To replace putin which is why Putin is furiously killing legitimate threats to his power. Navalny being just one and probably the biggest given his American ideals.
Forcing these countries to contribute 2% if we accept the theories of these war hawks will definitely make all NATO countries safer. If any country theoretically is stronger than we are all safer. It makes no sense to attack this strategy of Trumps to get the 2% from them.
It's a strong arm negotiating tactic. It makes us safer and you would think strengthening nato would make them happy.
Now to be fair I think Hillary likes this strategy because afterwards she is on an international stage helping trumps mission. Here is what she is saying to those countries?
"TRUMP is a dangerous guy and he is serious you guys will get zero military support"
It's the classic "my friend is crazy I can't control him technique"
She won't admit she is helping his goal but her actions say she does agree with and support it.
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You are apparently into the occult so I guess I can share this wisdom with you. There is no such things as opposites. Watch:
There are times when you are hungry and times when you are not.
Both are the same thing but on the spectrum of hungry/full
There are times when you are thirsty and times when you are not.
Thirsty/full spectrum
There are times when you are resting and times when you are not.
Tired/awake spectrum
There are times when you are working and sweating, and times when you are not.
Relaxed working spectrum
There are times when you are cold and times when you are not.
Temperature spectrum
It's more hermetic principles than satanic but the thirst spectru lm for example. If you go to the far left you die of thirst. The far right you get water drunk and also die.
Too cold you freeze to death, too hot you burn to death.
These are also pendulums. They are always swinging. The pendulum in American politics right now has gone so far left that a moderate like Donald Trump is considered far right and leftists consider Obama a centrist or even right winger. . That pendulum usually swings just as far the opposite direction. The further left it swings the further right it swings.
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That's why we saw GERMANY end up with Hitler. Prior to Hitlers rise. Weimer allowed mothers to pimp out daughters were on the cutting edge of transitioning men into women were heading towards extreme communism and had antifa street thugs attacking capitalists until the pendulum created brown shirts to even it out.
The trick is to try and resonate around the center of the pendulum to get what you want and to have some sort of stability.
The pendulum works in other ways. Too kind you end up being a slave to the whims of others. Too mean and you end up in prison.
Cowardly and brave are on th same pendulum. Too cowardly and you never make progress because you always run away. Too brave and you die fighting a bear or something.
I won't deny cycles but the pendulum can often look like a cycle due to swinging back and forth between extremes
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@Best.Korea
Just call me on the phone and record it and post it here. Or on a zoom call or whatever.
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@Sidewalker
2 year old post.
Is bestkorea not allowed to change his mind?
Is he not allowed to make a devil's advocate argument?
Just keep the post on topic. He should be able to make both a pro abortion and pro life thread in the same day and devote the separate threads to taking opposing viewpoints without people cross thread contaminating.
This forum is not for people who want to have no personal growth and want to remain intellectually stagnant.
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I hope Russia does attack them?
Why would he even hope that. First of all he is lying to put the fear of God in them. Secondly every nation seeing that would immediately comply with th 2% rule and it would strengthen Nato and be a strategic blunder for russia.
Why do democrats not support Russia making strategic errors? Are thy secretly pro kremlin?
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@Double_R
Trump just days ago said he would encourage Russia to attack our NATO allies if they didn't "pay up" (he clearly doesn't even know how NATO works). Years ago this would have ended the political career of anyone dumb enough to say this. With Trump, no one says anything because they're afraid of crossing him.
See my other thread on how trump turned Russia into useful idiots. I broke this down further than I will here but he is not referring to Nato fees when he says pay up. There was a promise for each country to contribute 2% of thir GDP to heir own militaries. Trump said pay up, meaning increase GDP spending to 2%. What he did was put the fear of God into them they will be afraid of being attacked and being left without America to efend them so guess what happens. They increase military spending to 2% of GDP and then Nato is made stronger.
He is literally making moves to make NATO stronger by forcing them to contribute 2% of GDP
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If you are confused about the Christian sinner thing after I pointed out the founder of the modern Christian movement was Paul who was arrested; murdered a d tortured christians the. You have also are similarly being dumb.
If God chooses you to be a part of his plan there is nothing you can do about it. You can recognize his presence and turn to him or you can be dumb and reject him and he will still have you work for him.
The fishing troubles in America's water was the first plague. With the frog peppe and Jordan Peterson unmistakable Kermit voice.
The next plague is lice if America doesn't turn away from evil.
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