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We have the videos you can click them to see the chants or look at the 197 race specific laws that target whites or look at crime rates. I am not stopping you
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As for the profile pic, whiteflame told me I was banned if I didn't use the Hitler photo as my profile
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You can watch the video and just see the chants of South African politicians or you can just find any africanar and ask them if anyone they know or loved has been victimized violently or murdered because they were white. Literally just ask any of them I am sure there are reddit communities you can find where you can contact one or something
I don't see myself as a victim or the people in South Africa committing genocide as evil. They are just very stupid and animal like so they don't know better.
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@ILikePie5
I literally pulled you off the whiteflame lynch and told you to lynch me. Here Is the list of options and the IQ level for the people who prefer each option
Lynch whiteflame - IQ level 80 . It's the obvious choice but a deeper analysis shows a slightly higher win rate if it's held off
Lynch wylted- well you are probably stupid but it's a better decision than whiteflame so not as stupid as the people who prefer that lynch
Lynch Lunatic- high IQ option, obviously wylted would not immediately claim a role that is in literally 90% of games with a cop and then immediately claim it with zero pressure.
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A lot of you don't know this but in South Africa there are leaders and you can see clips of them in the video provided chanting death to whites.
There plan is basically to do the same thing done in Zimbabwe where the white farmers are chased off and killed and then they starve and beg whites to come back.
You should have seen these places when they were ran by whites entirely. They had schools, good hospitals no starving but they decided to relegate whites to minority status and granted they are a minority there but it's done then irreparable harm.
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@ILikePie5
Just kidding by the way I don't want to put bullish in an odd position because if he doesn't end the game it town confirms me so let's just say I take it back before he gets on so there is no unfair town confirmation.
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@Bullish
@ILikePie5
I am sick of pies shit. I concede just post the endgame so town can have this free victory. I name lunatic MVP because he was first to suspect me
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@ILikePie5
I thought we had a plan already
Next DP whiteflame he mentions who he targeted before being lynched if the nk went through that person is like 65% cleared assuming no manipulation roles that can redirect etc. if NK didn't go through than NK whoever he targeted and hope the scum team just didn't refrain from the NK
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@ILikePie5
Why don't you vote me so we can move onto role confirming banana.
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It was this. I think lunatic is too good for this type of WIFOM
Reasoning
Whiteflame was forced to claim early so the best strategy at that point is to try and lean towards honesty given the fact information on other players is limited.
He should know that a scummy whiteflame would be for Ed to lean towards honesty here and give his real role or something close to it
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The reason for the behavioral scum read of lunatic was for a train of thought he took on DP1 that I thought was out of character. There are faint hints of it I remember from DP1 so let me reread his statements there
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Incorrect. If you r@pe or murder, then we should chop off your head without painkillers and use your organs to save the lives of American PATRIOTS! But the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don't r@pe or murder (just like Catholic Priests, drag queens, or AR 15 owners).
But you know that Trump is mainly going after these types criminals first so why are you claiming that rape isn't a serious crime?
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So if me white flame or lunatic is scum than town wins no matter who goes first
If potential scum is me whiteflame lunatic and banana then lynching me or lunatic or banana first extends the game and gives town more opportunities to win
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I am okay being lynched prior to lunatic but that lynch order is obviously retarded. Like anyone other than lunatic proposing that lynch order is definitely stupid but I am down. It's interesting that I won't die on this hill and refuse a self vote but lunatic would avoid a self vote. .
A self vote for me wouldn't be a play against my wincon, but could he be scum and it plays against his wincon so he actually cares more than I do about the lynch order?
I keep shifting back and forth on him but I think Lunatic is scum if whiteflame isn't. However we have to make a decision and keeping whiteflame alive makes it less likely town loses in the office chance banana is scum
VTL Wylted
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@Lunatic
Pie copped moozer innocent
I forgot about that. Yeah he is 100% town then
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@ILikePie5
Ya this is setting off alarm bells for me too
Maybe it should for you but for lunatic to think in a LYLO situation I should vote for him over banana is retarded. That's essentially what I said I would do and it's weird for him to think me preferring tp lynch banana over him is somehow bad in LYLO. Whether he thinks I am scum or not he should be certain of his own affiliation and prefer I vote banana
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@whiteflame
I forgot Moozer was in the game to be honest. I have been sleeping on him
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Technically whiteflame is correct.
Would he have a high self. Preservation instinct as town?
If we lynch lunatic here then whiteflame can block me to confirm me. Or we lynch me and he blocks lunatic and then if there is a NK it confirms a person no NK doesn't do anything TBH but buys us an extra DP technically.
Then we lynch whiteflame and if he's telling the truth we can trust his results and potentially narrow the scum pool more.
If say banana is scum she automatically wins with the current plan but if we lynch me or lunatic and obviously I prefer lunatic over myself than in a theoretical world where the banana is scum then we still win.
I am going to go with lunatic but am willing to switch to myself if it gains an extra vote. I suggest you lead town to lynch lunatic, plus I feel like whiteflame would have more self preservation as scum and lunatic had some red flags DP1 that I would prefer to not have to reread DP1 to remember
VTL Lunatic
Also lunatic should support this plan if he is genuinely town as it reduces the chances of scum winning if scum is specifically banana
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@whiteflame
Who would you lynch? I guess me or Luna?
If we lynched say me or Luna and then you roleblocked the one we didn't could they just refrain from the NK and mess up this plan? More importantly would they?
If it isn't me or Luna then who is it?
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@Lunatic
I essentially said that if it comes down to me, you and banana at LYLO I would vote LYLO.
Not sure why you would insinuate my vote would be incorrect in that situation.
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@Lunatic
why wouldn't you be willing to self vote tomorrow?
I think if it's not whiteflame it's probably banana and I think we lose if this happens tomorrow but if I change my mind and think you are acting I could just self vote.
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@Mharman
Whiteflame, if you ever feel like self-voting because you’ve been caught, go for it. There’s no shame in losing to Mikal’s pressure out of nowhere.
Do you really want to play a game that easy? He might be able to rally the troops and not be lynched here.
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@Lunatic
You know this is all a moot point of whiteflame flips scum?
I am on board with your plan. I am willing to self vote if you convince enough people just because pie needs to learn to be more collaborative if a large portion of town considers him a leader, and it's not against my wincon to self vote because it still narrows the potential scum pool and helps with POE.
I won't self vote next DP but this one I would be willing.
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@ILikePie5
We can at least test bananas role this dp. I can't remember if it was on the town only list though
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Lunatic won't believe me at this point but yes I will fake claim miller on occasion as scum but it's almost always when there is no godfather because I assume there is no cop and I can stay alive for a while given the town meta of not lynching Millers lately. If there is a godfather then there is usually a Miller so I won't claim it as scum in that situation
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@ILikePie5
I think whiteflame is the last scum as well but we need to change town and scum meta here.
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@Lunatic
otherwise were basically letting wylted go to endgame, where anything can happen and I just don't trust you arseholes enough to make the right decision at that point.
I legit will not put up much of a fight and will let town lose if scum is trying to bully the other town member to vote me, so thats an argument to not let me get to LYLO also. However, I can promise I won't make the wrong decision at LYLO if I survive until then so it's a two sided sword. I am an easier mislynch than most at that stage, but then again I will make the perfect decision at LYLO if the game is in my hands
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@ILikePie5
You need to stop trying to steam roll town if you want to be a better player. It shouldn't surprise you that people such as lunatic and mharman would push back against this. I think the last time I mislynched you, I did so intentionally because you were pissing me off by trying to lead town so hard. If you want to lead, them by all means do so, but do it in a collaborative way so we can avoid these egoistic responses that will naturally come from your current style
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@Lunatic
Oh he gets frustrated, not like long term frustration, like in the moment frustration. You could literally see him calling mikal a Piece of sh1t for trying to confirm himself.
I do. In fact I care more about winning as scum typically because I feel like if I am scum and win I get more credit than if I am town and win.
I will say something you can't account for is that I am literally a different person than last week. My personal philosophy is something I have been trying to piece together my entire life and it finally came to me.
It's also why I called Mikal a piece of shit in a way that was distant and not personal. Not him personally of course but his code of ethics.
I have just been more honest lately. My sister is a holy roller. You know the type. Anyway I told her very calmly because I honestly wasn't upset or anything I just was trying to help her realize her own state of mind that she wasn't as close to God as she thinks she is. I told her that nobody who is actually close to God would be fat, which is true.
The same day I told my mother information to keep her in the loop about something and she started to panic a bit about something that was honestly only a 10% chance of happening so I calmly informed her that I will no longer be sharing information with her and I will be taking over decision making if she can't being in the loop and part of the process in a cold logical way.
I haven't tried to adopt this flat honesty but it has just happened as a result of me being certain about everything.
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@Lunatic
I don't think I ever stated this publicly before but also not of fan of YYW. He seems unnecessarily cruel. Never had any run ins with him though so I kept my mouth shut. Still, overall I think he improves the conversation when he's around
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@Lunatic
I have less feelings than before.
It's not personal though. For example me and him both wanted air max elected here and worked together.
Whether I like him or respect him or not is independent of whether or not he is good for the game and apparently he is a pretty lovable guy as evidence by multiple people such as you being friendly with him off site and even evidence by when DDO came together for him in some tough times, so getting him back in the game would probably go a long way towards saving the game here.
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@Lunatic
Oh okay see I just need to be told things
Unvote
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@Mharman
I seriously wanted to play with Mikal a while and hopefully get him to enjoy the game here again so he participates in more. I suspect pie would also keep him around and so would lunatic. I am more on the fence about whiteflame but lean towards thinking he would keep him around.
Just an analysis of the psychology of the NK choice leaves a slim scum pool which you are in but behaviorally you feel town and NK analysis is less reliable than behavior
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Pie said he has to wait until 11 CSat because he is getting laid. Are you getting laid? What's your excuse to wait?
I town read you I just think you get nothing from waiting
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@Mharman
Why are you waiting for pie?
I understand the ego thing because he tends to bring that out in people but really who gives a shit? Don't you have better things to do than sit here and hitting refresh until he claims so you can just be second?
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Mikal's first time playing in a while, I would have held off making him the NK as long as possible. Does nobody make decisions good for the game? Is there no meta strategy? Just kill the guy who is strongest town read?
You could still paint him as scum if you are scum. He is shifty enough and clever enough to fake a CC like that. He is a high risk high reward person like myself.
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Just rereading last DPs vote count, mharman's vote wasn't on scum so it's fair to have him vote first. Also didn't even check the NK yet LOL.
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@Mharman
Would you rather get the claim first from the guy who:
- Has atrocious logic, said he was gonna sheep but ope nevermind (I never seen Pie say he was going to sheep before anyway), and has followed what everyone else has been doing all game long
I don't know.if he felt like he wanted to be lazy and devote more time to important shit like work or getting pussy I could see him wanting to get a good town read and sheeping.
Maybe he has that intention in mind but then figured out that he couldn't get pussy so he's like "fuck it I guess I have time now and won't sheep"
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- the guy whose claim you can weigh based on the fact that he said he was considering outing last DP, and will [air with someone's results
Bro are you the cop and just reluctant to claim for that? Nobody cares. Obviously there is a cop in the game if you are just claim it so everyone else can town read you and we can catch the final scum.
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@ILikePie5
Who do you trust more? They guy that basically got That2 lynched with the Stealth/Non Stealth or the guy that townread her based on the logic of “she would never do that as scum” aka WIFOM
I don't give a shit either way tbh
I fully buy that... That2 is unobservant enough to do that with any scum partner. I didn't feel like she had pressure I just felt like she randomly claimed out of nowhere and for no reason. I am not rereading the DP so I will take your word that you influenced that but I could see you influencing that, her having good directions on how to respond and then completely fucking it up anyway.
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@Moozer325
I townread you, but that's just DP1 behavioral reads. It's not enough for me to blindly trust you. If
It's not blind trust if you town read him
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@ILikePie5
Help me get Mharman’s full claim.
He feels town.
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@ILikePie5
I did not suggest it. Luna did. And I gave a reason in my most recent post
Oh okay
Unvote VTL luna
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@Mharman
Yeah if we’re mass claiming I want Pie to go first. He’s the guy who suggested it
This is fair. The one suggesting it should always be first
Unvote VTL pie
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Remy do you really think rape isn't a serious crime like you insinuate in your response to me?
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'm born, I'm not a threat to anyone's body anymore. I'm different than a fetus.
Only in that you are outside of the womb than inside of it.
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I think this might be subconscious racism of the left at play. The being outraged at the deportation of criminals while simultaneously complaining about 50 people being saved from genocide. Wealthy people by the way who are skilled and will contribute to the economy and make America stronger not just freeloaders who need saved.
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For those of you who are uncultured swine
https://youtu.be/TYgOlqinH7A?si=spLPmh-C-8EiO8pD
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