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What type of defense is "well there is an opposition party so the intent to make America a third world country by continuing the inflation, opening borders, cutting the penises off of gay kids and continued attacks on free speech doesn't matter"
Like maybe don't have evil intents bro and using the fact that people fight against evil to justify it
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@Double_R
Do you not realize how close we were to a one party state? Hell they wanted a one party state so bad there was 2 assassination attempts
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Current Mafia:
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iLikePie5- choose your theme
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Bullish - Themed semi-open
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Wylted- Lulsec
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Earth - Tales of Symphonia Mafia
Mharman
On hold
Earth - Tales of Symphonia Mafia
Mharman
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@Lunatic
I am next and this time I will make the game less experimental and maybe get somebody to check it
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@Double_R
Yes and we want to stay near the top.
Yes the borders were never open. Your welcome. There was still sanctuary cities and other attempts to open it so we were able to prevent that sort of thing. We can see from the fight to bring back actual MS13 illegal immigrants that there just is no standards for who we bring in from one side.
What are you talking about?
California literally made it child abuse to not cut your child's dick off by request and have legalized pedophilia or down rates it as a crime.
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@Double_R
Right, so the wealthiest super power on earth and envy of the entire globe voting for the status quo = becoming a third world country.
Economic freedom index, open borders. Predictable economic effects that happen every single time under similar conditions. We aren't special if we do something that has failed every single time, we will also fail.
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Why would voting against becoming a 3rd world country also simultaneously means that we can't criticize some of the moves made by the side who saved the country from that?
Criticism helps us work together and realize our mistakes early and deviate.
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Who was scum?
I thought ADOL definitely was until I read op
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In and I will be a tie breaker vote if needed.
This game is one where I am going to work on my discipline. I want to gain something from the game in some selfish way, so if I can utilize it for the war on myself I will.
Prior to this I have just tried to be an open book and post my thoughts as they come to me, the purpose being that I feel like I can be town read easier if you literally know how I think. I assume it would mirror some part of your thoughts process, but the other reason is that I want my train of thought attacked so I can improve my reasoning ability. However the effort is likely in vain anyway, given that usually it's. My conclusion that's attacked and not my reasoning. Maybe I will open up an app and take notes and then instead of stringing my thoughts out, I act more normal and present them all at once.
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@FLRW
To eliminate the National Debt like Eisenhower did.
Yeah but why do it in a retarded way instead of a good way?
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@n8nrgim
I wouldn't do fair tax. It's gotta be progressive sales tax or it's not fair or too feasible. I didn't know fair tax has stipends for the lower class so it's not all bad
That's correct the fair tax once you account for stipends does make it a progressive tax system, it also allows you to avoid taxes by buying used products, but essentially there is no taxes on basic needs.
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What's sad is that you are waiting to learn if it is true or not that the FBI staged photos. An honest person would just be able to easily say whether the police lying or not is ethical and what it means for trusting them when they create chain of custody logs
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@Double_R
The FBI admitted to staging it. Why do you think the FBI is lying?
Besides I could find excuses for why Biden committed serious crimes or Clinton. You don't go after political opponents like the gestapo did it's evil. Just don't be evil
Prove the photos were staged, then we can talk about what it does or doesn't imply.
Doing fraudulent activities destroys your ability to claim you are an unbiased third party who wouldn't lie.
It's the same reason OJ wasn't convicted of a murder he definitely committed. Once the police lie you can't trust their evidence
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@FLRW
We need to go back to the 90 percent top tax rate that Eisenhower had.
Why
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@n8nrgim
Check out Fairfax.org it was a system put together by a bipartisan commission who found a way to make sales tax progressive, it also simultaneously creates more tax revenue while reducing the tax burden of the average working American.
The only reason to oppose the fair tax is because you are a piece of shit and want to use the tax system to reward friends or punish enemies
I have done a deep dive on the Fairfax and the only real criticism is people claiming that politicians are pieces of shits that will just add an income tax on top of it after a while or increase the base amount gradually until it gets ridiculous, but really that's on us voters to make sure politicians don't do that, the tax policy is perfect.
It's often misrepresented as a 25% tax and opponents fail to mention the stipend and 25% is misleading. It is 0.18¢ of every dollar you spend and the stipend gives. The money back to the poor and people who are not poor could but won't avoid taxes as well making the system completely voluntary, which makes it more ethical than the current system
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@Double_R
Trump knowingly stashed cases full of classified documents in his beach club next to the toilet and on his stage, then lied to the FBI about having possession of them and ordered all evidence of their whereabouts destroyed. That is a serious and obvious crime. Anyone who does that should go to jail.
You will always find excuses to do evil things like going after political opponents, but you do know that the photo the FBI did was staged right? The documents never had the words classified printed on them for example.
Now would an organization that has the truth on its side need to lie?
It's a simple yes or no question. Don't complicate it. Do the good guys need to do things like stage photos?
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@sadolite
I was always told growing up that once cars hit 100k then they are minutes away from just crapping out.
The girl just bought a car with almost 200k though and swears to me that cars last longer now days. I don't believe it
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If they are puritan in the sheets, than it sounds like a you problem.
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I like some communists. Not that like or dislike matters. I think that Marx had some really great analysis and I use some of it when debating economics if anyone picks up on it.
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@Cerulean
I was thinking the same thing. Like a hunter role or something where you kill somebody upon death, in which case he should be killed at MyLO or LYLO but if it's scum sided it makes sense to do it a bit early.
If he is town I could see him wanting the game in his hands at that point and not wanting to wait until the last minute, but he's also good enough at this game to know you always lynch hunters at MyLO or LYLO. We also wouldn't know the day before MyLO because the day before I think we would assume we are going to lynch correctly and not get to that point.
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@Double_R
No, you need to decide this for yourself and then use that values based determination to decide how you feel about what's going on in this country and around the world. That's how intellectual honesty works.
It's weird that when you guys are in power it's okay to go after political opponents for prison, end free speech and end freedom but when you are out of power then freedom matters. Hmmmmm
You were on here silent on the Twitter files were you not?
You supported going after Trump for being a Republican and now going after people is wrong?
I have been intellectually honest and said that it's wrong no matter what to do evil things. You need to look inside yourself and ask yourself if you are willing to be honest and say that when you ignored attacks on free speech and cheered on the covid lockdowns or arresting politicians you disagree with
I somehow doubt you have confronted your own evil though since you have ignored the arrests of people for memes in England the arrest of anti establishment politicians like LePen or the conservatives in the Philippines or Romania.
It's real simple. Taking away free shit for companies is not an attack on freedom, however arresting and locking up people who disagree with you are, so I look forward to the threads you are about to form to complain about LePen being banned from running for presidency because she is a conservative
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The Pixel it's the only one where you can install alternative OS's on and that is reasonably high quality
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@ILikePie5
Or she’s the beloved princess and we have 2 NKs in a row. Idt That2 is a good option, especially considering Savant has a role that makes it likely that That2 is telling the truth.
I thought we skipped a night if she was lynched.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Me either but it fits the narrative .
I heard stories of Jackie being overly frustrated about who the killer was and frustrated that it was a "silly communist", which feels to me that she was sympathetic to communism and thought he was silly due to a purity spiral and not because his beliefs were retarded.
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Vader has probably provided enough
A safe lynch might be that2 and she can sub in for the other guy as well if she is town so we destroy a liability and get a replacement that is normally easy to read.
Unvote VTL that2
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Giys I am going to be useless this game unlesI make something happen with my role, so the first strong town read I get I am just going to srongly support whatever they are doing.
I think there is a greater than normal chance the new guy is scum. I think Casey would really randomize roles and I think if you roll scum as a new player it's going to get very intimidating and besides that confusing.
He is also Ukranians and for all we know is in an active warzone and has more important shit to do than be here, besides the fact that opsec can rise and fall in importance so if they are having some sensitive operations the importance of opsec increases. That's a lot of assumptions though he could be in Brazil and not involved in any fighting whatsoever for all I know.
That2 I feel like is potentially scum. I don't think the assassin vs executed distinction matters too much but the other things pointed out about how she claimed seems weird, such as offering up too much information at random when everyone else was just talking about their relationship with the Soviet Union.
I feel there is a good chance pie is scum here but I also feel guilty because a few games back I had that feeling and got him lynched DP1. Or maybe I was scum that game and pushed it I can't remember but I feel like I was town when I lynched him.
Whiteflame feels town for reasons. Savant as well should get some credit for the early claim.
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@Greyparrot
The left is more likely to attack politicians even on the left. Remember JFK was damn near a communist and Oswald a member of the Communist party killed him because he wasn't communist enough.
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@Greyparrot
Germans literally did that in 1945.
That's where I learned about it from and why I realized that American energy dominance given our coal supply rests on ridding the world of oil by using it all in our pickup trucks
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@Double_R
Is the first amendment important or not. We have to decide this because right now theleft thinks it doesn't matter when they have power. So they can't really use it to argue against anything Trump does, because in their mind might makes right and they through away the first amendment when they had power.
Also another question is what does it mean to lose an FCC license? Is it just the government not giving 60 minutes free shit or does it really prevent them from having a TV show?
A good way to prevent all this could be the media going back to being unbiased like they were prior to the fairness doctrine being revoked another way is to focus on telling facts and not cherry picking them and then both sides kind of can feel like you are the referees holding both sides to the fire.
What happens though is that the media and this started in the 80's but randomly got really disgusting after 2016 have become just propaganda wings for the establishment and every study on media bias that comes out has confirmed an establishment bias, which means that neocons and the Clinton Obama types have just used the media as a type of propaganda tool.
You would never tune in and get a left wing or right wing opinion it was always an establishment bias and painting narratives.
It needs to go back to being completely fact base and any trace of bias eradicated entirely.
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Possible, of course. But is it honorable?
Irrelevant. This is about what's appropriate to moderate not what's honorable
Not according to my OED.
Honor is too complicated if a topic for a 1 sentence dictionary definition to accurately reflect it
That was your set condition. I've cited it back to you.
Wrong, if I am understanding you correctly here
You have illusions of moderation if you believe that is honorable.
Illusions of moderation? Your words are borderline incomprehensible right now.
I hold you to your word, just as I hold to its definition. Can't be all things to all people. "Be yourself," Oscar Wilde said, "everyone else is taken."
Yes this site can't be all things to all people which is why we do need to unfortunately ban some people
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@Lunatic
It’s not silly at all. She admitted that Casey never called it an assassination in her pm. That was the word she personally volunteered randomly over other words. She led us down the rabbit role for 0 reason instead of simply saying she was pre Soviet.
I agree it's funny she wouldn't just say presobiet I am not dismissing anything other than the exution vs assassination element.
I watched the cartoon and watched unsolved mysteries about her like everyone else and I struggle to know which one is which with her. She was royalty and the murder happened outside of the justice system so it feels like an assassination, but it also happened through brute force in a way we would normally define as murder or "execution" . .
Granted my knowledgeostly comes from the cartoon and unsolved mysteries episode I saw like 30 years ago
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@fauxlaw
It's actually quite possible to advocate for the genocide of homosexuals while treating a homosexual you are debating with, with personal respect and treat them like an individual. It's also possible to take your position seriously without resorting to retarded arguments like "let's kill fags because butt stuff is gross"
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The assassination vs execution thing I think is silly. It's a matter of opinion how to define that event. I would call it an assassination. I think execution may be used as some sort of rhetorical oomph to make the event seem even worse though technically I think an assassination is more morally reprehensible than execution.
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@That2User
assassination, execution, murder, shot to death, all these things describe my death, i am anastasia
But she secretly survived and lived a full life in peace and obscurity according to legend
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@That2User
October of what fucking year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before or after collapse?
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@zedvictor4
Who compiled the documents?
Journalists under the FOIA
Was it propagandists?
Yes it was journalists. I doubt they controlled the writings in the documents handed over by the CIA though.
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I believed coal to oil wasnt feasible in this day and age. Apparently it is
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@That2User
I was assassinated
Were you or did you just die under mysterious circumstances?
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@zedvictor4
Now declassified documents and recovered documents from the collapsed Soviet Union shows massive communist infiltration of the American government. McCarthyism is a liberal myth to cover up the truth
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@zedvictor4
You know mcCarthy was right don't you?
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@Vader
Are you a part of the Soviet Union history or from Russia history (anything before Soviet Formation and after the fall of the Soviet Union (so 1917-1991))???
I have to Google it but I think both. If memory serves correct than it was somebody around during the Reagan and the Clinton era.
That's off memory I can Google it when I get home
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@Savant
If you're going to put a vote on Vader, say what you're trying to accomplish. Are you pushing for a lynch or a claim or what?
My personal philosophy is that a vote for anything other than a lynch is pointless. It is their job to decide a strategy to get me more information to clear them, whether that be a character claim or a role claim or by finding me somebody more suspicious.
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@Sir.Lancelot
This thread is about applying unitary executive theory to the office of site president and doesn't call out people as much as it distinguishes between retard and non retarded behavior
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@Savant
1. He posts retarded spam like how to make tea from dandy lion leaves
2. When he does post controversial things he doesn't make arguments for them it's sheerly going for shock value. Which drives away quality users
3. When new users are testing the site they often posts debates to see if they can get serious debates and then best.korea accepts them all then spams his own arguments while ignoring all of his opponents argumentsand rebuttals and his arguments are as stupid as you can expect with gems such as "we shouldn't restrict the freedom of rapists because how would you like if your freedom is restricted?"
I would rather the entirety of Nambla come here and make serious threads discussing pedophilia than for best Korea to continue to spam this place with low quality content.
It isn't about the subject. It is about his treatment of subjects and his spam. The other people he points out like double r and ebuc have low quality content or ADOL has high quality content that is controversial but everyone is sincere.
Even if you are insincere you can take a controversial subjects eriously and defend it, but he isn't capable. There are plenty of reasons to single him out.
You guys can quit pretending that wylted a guy who routinely uses the words nigger, retarded and faggot on this site is being woke and this is about the subject matter but it isn't. It also isn't about whether I personally like BK or not. My personal feelings are not important, site quality is
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Also yes I blocked you. You tagged. Me in like 30 posts today
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@Savant
Should we compare and contrast their responses to it?
It's to en even lesser degree than when I was hosting rape battles instead of rap battles and so I have no sympathy.
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