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@Casey_Risk
You need to character claim right now if you aren't a rapist or necrophile
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It has to be 3 murders to qualify as a serial killer according to Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer
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Besides the rape thing, Ed Geins is not a serial killer he confessed to 1 murder and was convicted of another. I don't know that two murders qualifies you as a SK. He is mostly notorious for digging up dead bodies and turning them into lamp shades and other home decor
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Bruh did you even read the underlying philosophies? 

Don't let the title distract you from the meat of the argument
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@zedvictor4
Yes killing off all hungry people would work as well. You are right there is more than one way to skin a cat
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I have to update whiteflame. I just learned Dahmer has had sex with corpses.
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@Vader
Austin is not a rapist or a necrophile, get him the fuck out of this game. Vote please
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. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin- Ed Geins (a sweetheart who just missed his mother and never ever fucked a dead body or raped anyone)
4. Bullish- rapist, victims are male. John Wayne Gacy
5. iLikePie5 (1) (rapes involved)
6. ILikePie5 (2) (somehow rapes so unique it would be a giveaway?)
7. Supadudz- ted Bundy rapes prior to death and kills when during anal at the precise moment prior to release some necrophilia involved
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders (but some necrophilia involved maybe)
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation

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If anyone else is not a rapist or a necrophile than confess right fucking now. 

Lunatic is obsessed with rapists and necrophiles which is why he included so many in the game. Like I literally don't even think sex is involved in most SKs but lunatic focused on them for a reason..
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@AustinL0926
I need a full claim. Ed Geins never had sex with corpses or raped women. You are the only non rapist, or necrophile here and I need to know why.

VTL Austin

For full claim
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@Savant
Is it Alien Warnhous or however you spell her name 

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@7000series
I think for midwits problem solving is secondary. By midwits I don't mean dumb people. I am thinking of an IQ around 115 to 125.

Their primary concern is with social hierarchy and they actually mimic true learn by memorization of facts. Because being able to pass tests is more valuable to them than knowledge. Unfortunately geniuses have to attend the same schools as them but geniuses should honestly be forced to go to school but be in charge of solving their own problems.



For example a kid tells you he wants to solve world hunger. So now he has to learn how to read to become capable then he starts looking at how supply routes are built and has to learn math relevant to organizing supply lines. He might have to look at weather patterns etc. so the kid is naturally going to be inclined to problem solve if the teacher isn't putting him in classes with midwits and forcing him to learn stupid shit that is far beneath him.
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@Bullish
I knew you were John Wayne gacy by the way
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@ADreamOfLiberty
How do you explain the reaction to skid marks on pride crosswalks?
I think I should have found ways to differentiate between political motivated crimes and non political. There is some clear hypocrisy there in terms of how the law should be respected. I think I did touch on it with the politician comment though
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I don't want to respond to everything here. The reason being is in think to properly do so, we have to get into semantics. 

I sense we could be defining collectivism differently for example so I don't want to argue against what you are saying if I am really in agreement but just through holding different definitions seem to disagree. 

I would define collectivism as simply everybody working for mutual self interest and I get the impression you may be defining at as everyone working for the greater good. 

I would be opposed collectivism of the latter variety where the former is more my thing. 

As far as putting family country or God first. I think these things have shown great results in the past and deviating from them has harmed civilizations. 

The important thing is a strong hierarchal structure. A benevolent philosopher king will rule a nation better than a mob and the king must get his authority from God or his authority is not valid and it's ethical to dispose of him, so he has to act for the mutually beneficial good of those he is responsible to. 

The priest or the pope is elected by bishops who observe him over decades and can attest to his character, he also gets his authority from God so if he deviates and starts having orgies or torturing people you know that you have a situation where sedevacantists are correct and that pope can be ignored and so the will of God can run through the church. Or if you prefer "mutual self interest of church members" to the term God.

In the family the father is typically the one willing to be selfless and run into a burning house to save the kids while the woman is running to safety, so it makes sense that he would be the leader. These hierarchal structures is the type of "collectivism" that is good while with leftism it's either rule by a lawless mob or through soulless beurocrats. 

Yes I think strong hierarchal structures is the answer to runaway individualism that is so prevalent we see today and is also a solution to soulless beurocracy. 

As for some of the other stuff you mention. 

Slavery and colonization was often better for native populations than their previous living conditions. 

The fascists and the Nazis did have workers who were happier in their jobs in fact. 

The crusades freed Christians from the senseless rapes, murders and slavery the Muslims are famous for. 

While we are on the topic of slavery, it was the white Christian Puritans who were the first people to eradicate slavery in their own societies, the non Christian societies followed later. 

With strong hierarchies, structured correctly as they have been structured correctly in the past would do fine at helping corporations focus more on being good for the nation as opposed to to merely exploiting workers. 

A strong male father figure in the house could nip the runaway individualism of his children in the bud. 

A strong church could provide the social pressures needed to keep families stable to keep orphans fed and to impose reputational harm on people who act in deviant, rude or evil ways. 

As for the savage you mention, I think the natural conclusion of your philosophy if you continue to it's end, is that that savage is correct and you are wrong. 

You wish that what was best for a man (assuming your objectivist philosophy is correct), is that he is kind to others, or that he isn't a brute who just takes everything he wants no matter who it hurts. 

However the individualist rational person should absolutely shed any moral dogmas they have and merely maximize what they want. 

You want to know where libertarianism, individualism and all that first started to show cracks for me?

When I got into a car accident with the getaway driver of a robbery. I always told myself that in that type of moment I would be rational and just be safe but I hopped out of my car and with cars buzzing around me at 60mph I pushed it out the way to save the life of anyone passing by in that moment on the road. The accident almost killed me, but I voluntarily took actions to save others.

I realized then that logic and rationality, though they had a place couldn't really explain why my impulse was to save others. I knew it was primal. It wasn't a decision. It wasn't a choice but some primal urge. Some people called me a hero and you often here people say "anyone would have done it" and you think to yourself "no they wouldn't" hell the hero thought he wouldn't do it, because he's right. It's just a primal impulse that is virtually uncontrollable. 

This moralistic impulse in you, that knows the savage you mention is not a good thing. It exists not because of societal conditioning but because even you know your philosophy is wrong .

Objectivism is a very well thought out philosophy. The way you have used it as a tool is impressive. Any rand said that a refined absurdity is still an absurdity when she didn't want to get into the weeds debating commies. 

Your tool is useful for sure. You want to use rationalism and logic. However the part you miss. The part I pray you stop missing is that, that tool was built to be in service to God. 

 Your IQ is probably around 135. You aren't going to outsmart God. You can logic it all you want and it's not going to work.

You can believe the lies of the world, that the crusades were bad. The world would literally be all Iran right now if not for the crusades. You can criticize superstitious uneducated idiots and ignore that Catholics spread universities around the world during the dark ages. You can thumb your nose at people who believe in the greater good while you simultaneously criticize the savage who takes your ideology to its logical conclusions, but at some point you need to change 

We have operating systems, like computers and if you want to limit your operating system by leaning on your philosophy (parameters( that's fine but you are running on windows and lack the freedom that Gentoo gives you. 

I know you are going to want to respond espousing the virtues of cold hard logic, but don't . Just think about why even you intuitively reject your own values. 

If you keep leaning on that logic you'll fail to keep up with machines. You aren't going to put think AI, you'll need to tap into somebody's brain who created the universe to actually compete.

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@IlDiavolo
I don't think liberals support criminals or criminality, that would be sick.
How would you explain the support for Luigi Mangione and of the vandalism of Tesla just to make a few things off the top of my head.

So, I wouldn't explain that in terms of philosophy but psychology. This "goodiness" they show to the world is pure self-interest. 
I would agree with this the virtue signalling in a lot of them, especially the more politically involved is a type of sociopathic trait used to gain status. The concern isn't necessarily for the cause but it's more about you appearing to care. It's why the policies presented are typically short term solutions that are harmful over the medium and long term. 

I would differentiate activists from the political class here but more and more activists are breaking into the political class as the "sensible moderate" is dying.

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@Casey_Risk
I don't know where to go from here. How would you like to move the game forward?
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1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish- rapist doesn't say if it was before or after death (is lunatic obsessed with rape why is every SK he chooses some sort of sicko?)
5. iLikePie5 (1) (rapes involved)
6. ILikePie5 (2) (somehow rapes so unique it would be a giveaway?)
7. Supadudz- ted Bundy rapes prior to death and kills when during anal at the precise moment prior to release some necrophilia involved
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders (but some necrophilia involved maybe)
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation
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@Bullish
sounds good 

VTL Savant

I was thinking about this before as well, if scum don't know the theme split than outing characters early could hurt them. Lunatic said the theme split was simple so it shouldn't be too esoteric to figure out
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You've mixed and matched the philosophies a bit, putting individualism and collectivism in the wrong boxes.
Both modern day conservatism, well at least until MAGA and modern liberalism are both essentially runaway individualism. They are just expressed differently. There was a point in time I would have divided liberalism and conservatism as individualism vs collectivism. However now I see it as two forms of runaway individualism. I was looking into The National Socialist party of 1930s Germany and I never got the comparison of capitalism and communism as two sides of the same coin. It took me years to understand I thought it was just Nazis being too stupid to comprehend either capitalism or communism until I looked more closely at the frame of individualism and collectivism. Essentially you will have conservatives who express it through individual rights. 

I know you libertarians like to say " I am a Libertarian not a Libertine" , but you aren't really going to have a libertarian society where you can walk outside without tripping over meth heads lining the sidewalks on your way to the grocery store. The runaway individualism of the right is more about the exploitation of the working class and the poor though. It's the individual who has no loyalty to country or God or family who puts his own needs and desires first. The capitalist will exploit the workers or the environment or ruin society in the name of profit. 

The left, not in theory but in reality is also a type of runaway individualism. The left wants Gay sex in public. They should have the right and they should also be able to sit on their ass all day and free load. They should be able to watch a video of porn in front of children or sell a porn magazine to a school library to check out to kids. While the right embraces individuality for the sake of getting more and more and more, the leftist does it to relieve himself of responsibilities, to be a disgusting hedonist. 

The collectivism in both examples is part of the internal myth they carry, but both groups ultimately carry these myths/philosophies in order to excuse or justify their hedonism or exploitation. 


Violating natural law isn't "you failed society", that implies that if society would benefit from a little well tailored robbery it wouldn't violate natural law. You thus redefine "natural law" as "net utility".
It was intentional, I meant it more as you failed to maintain the social contract by violating the natural rights of others. I guess I need to find a way to word it better. 

If you said:
For the good of society some people will fall through the cracks or be harmed just by the nature of rules not being equitable.

It would be far more accurate to what they believe. They believe a perfect society, a sinless society, will leave no one behind. Every individual or minority that appears disadvantaged is proof of sin. It's not their fault because its somebody else's fault.

I am trying to express how they view the creation myth of society not express what they think of as a perfect society or one they would strive for. so while they would strive for what you are saying here, I don't think its ingrained as their creation myth. 

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I am not going to carry town this game like I did in Castlevania. You guys have to do something
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"Game is slower than I expected" 

Real quote from Red Bundy about his first human game who was fat and slower than expected. After that he targeted fit chicks
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Unvote

Very tempting to eliminate one just to see the flip though.
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@TheGreatSunGod
You can blame any problem on the individual. It's kind of like an argument you can never lose
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You are philosophically inclined, what do you think?
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#Liberals may not even be aware of what they are doing. We are all guided by #philosophies . Many of which we operate by blissfully unaware. It's worth understanding the underlying #philosophy that would cause a #liberal to support #criminalism .

I also plan to examine an underlying philosophy that #conservatives operate with and I believe more conservatives are aware of this foundational #theory they operate by than their counterparts do. I may be wrong but I will explain both. The more philosophically inclined liberals of course have more self knowledge of their philosophies than conservatives do and this will come as no surprise to them.

# What is not the purpose of this writing

The purpose of this writing is not to prove that the underlying liberal belief is wrong and I will attempt to ignore arguments that I am insinuating the underlying philosophy is wrong. Obviously I think it's incorrect and that may leak through, but my intention is to present the underlying philosophy that causes them to support criminality and contrast it with the underlying conservative philosophy that contradicts it.

# Observations of support of criminals

Before I explain the underlying philosophy behind #liberalism that causes them to support criminality it's worth briefly demonstrating this is true, but you can actually go to the videos on any social media site of the #cops interacting with a #criminal and handling him roughly. The liberals are more inclined to focus on the #police in the video and second guess every decision they make. If a person is defending their home or business from a criminal and using #lethal-force the liberal will claim that the business or home owner should willingly endanger himself and assume the criminals only intent is #theft .

I am sure some more popular cases come to mind. Ahmad Arbury was caught stealing from homes under construction and a good Samaritan held him at gun point until police arrive. Of course Arbury having very little self preservation instincts went for a man's #gun who had him at #gun-point , which resulted in a very predictable outcome. Liberals who viewed the event thought that Arbury was going for a jog despite video evidence of him coming out of construction sites and the extremely restrictive clothing. They thought he was shot in cold blood, despite him obviously going after a gun that was trained on him when anybody with a lick of self preservation in that circumstance would have waited for the police to arrive, and that's whether they are innocent or guilty.

Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked by multiple people for putting out fires. He would be dead had he not had the means to protect himself and the liberal instinct was to defend those attacking him and claim he was acting as some sort of #vigilante, as if self defense qualifies as vigilantism.

This is not to say he isn't an idiot. Obviously he made the mistake of showing up to a riot with good intentions to both keep properties safe and to render medical aid to protestors when he saw one in trouble, which he did multiple times. He was only 17 though and not yet hardened enough by the world to know how evil a mob of people can be under pseudo anonymity and fueled by rage. However we don't blame rape victims even if they walked buck naked around a bad neighborhood.

There's more examples I can think of, but it would take all day. The point is that any time you see a news story of criminals, they will normally side with the criminal. The exception would be if a Republican politician is being charged with something, its at that point they say law and justice should prevail.

The reason I brought up the things I did is also to showcase that besides defending the criminals they have no empathy for law abiding citizens who are often the victims of criminals and we are about to find out why, but first let's look at conservative philosophy.

# Conservative political Philosophy

Just like not every liberal will adhere to the philosophies I assign them not every conservative will adhere to this though even the ones who think they don't have unintentionally intuited the following philosophy. I will also present this philosophy and it's antithesis as fact, even though both are just constructs.

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In the beginning it was just man and #nature. Man should be able to do what he wants and so what he is allowed to do is only constrained by natural law. soon other men move close and maybe you don't want to build a house and farm and make your food and chop wood for fires etc. So you exchange your labor for your neighbors and he chops enough wood for both of you and you farm enough for both of you. These sorts of agreements grow exponentially and #societies form. Everyone benefits from these exchanges in #labor so certain unwritten rules start to be written. You have natural rights you do what you want so long as it doesn't hurt me. #Laws are created to maintain this voluntary and mutually beneficial participation in #society . If you harm another person you have violated natural law and deserve to be punished. Robbing your neighbor is bad and you failed society. I want you to remember this a violation of natural law is a a person who takes advantage of or has failed society.


# Liberal Political Philosophy

Same as for conservatives, there are exceptions, but if you are reading this and were offended by my examples earlier than it isn't you.

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In the beginning was just man and nature. Eventually more and more people show up, because you are reproducing, your neighbors are reproducing and the area is getting crowded. These close living quarters and large groups need some rules and mutual agreements to function properly otherwise it's just unworkable chaos.  So a society is essentially being built up to respond to the tribes growth and the bigger the tribe the more we have to think about what works for most people.

However, there's a problem. The societal structure doesn't benefit everyone. In fact it hurts some people. For the good of society some people will fall through the cracks or be harmed just by the nature of rules not being individualistic. The people the rules and societal structure negatively impact didn't have a say in creating the rules. The rules are imposed on them and they may in fact thrive if society was not forced on them.  SO while the conservative would say the individual failed society, the liberal would point out that society has failed the criminal who would not be a criminal if not for society being forced upon him with rules and structures that advantage others.

# Conclusion

Discuss if you want but maybe some people will understand each other better after reading the unconscious philosophies the other side has.

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@Bullish
If you don't mind sharing did your guy do any rapes and if so how?

Dead alive? Gay straight?
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@Bullish
High scores usually means that the police are pinning extra kills on the SK to close cases. It's rare to see more than 25 kills without it just being cops letting actual killers go free to pin stuff on SKs and clear cases
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I only need a claim from pie 2

Pie 1 please do not disclose your character or role
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I am getting town vibes from pie 1 not pie 2 so much

VTL Pie 2
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*Pre murder and post murder rape

If anyone is seriously triggered by the rape talk let me know so I can stfu but I assume mostly male participants which means almost no rapes or can have a sense of humor about them.

Or let lunatic know in a pm so he can relay it to me if you don't want to draw attention to yourself
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Apparently dahmer has pre murder and post murder deaths as I just learned. Whiteflame is probably not dahmer though at his age he should have known of his existence prior to the Netflix release
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1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish
5. iLikePie5 (1) (rapes involved)
6. ILikePie5 (2) (somehow rapes so unique it would be a giveaway?)
7. Supadudz- ted Bundy rapes prior to death and kills when during anal at the precise moment prior to release some necrophilia involved
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders (but some necrophilia involved maybe)
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation
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@ILikePie5
There were raped involved, yes.
Fuck yeah. I knew it
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@ILikePie5
Tell me about the rapes right now.
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Also why claim popular immediately? 

Last person who claimed popular DP1 was scum. Last 2 people if memory serves
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No justification needed. Bundy got all kinds of letters from women in prison and was considered very attractive
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@Vader
1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish
5. iLikePie5 (1)
6. ILikePie5 (2)
7. Supadudz- ted Bundy rapes prior to death and kills when during anal at the precise moment prior to release
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation
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Is one of pie's characters scum and one town? How would that work?


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1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish
5. iLikePie5 (1)
6. ILikePie5 (2)
7. Supadudz
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation
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@Lunatic
How is pie in the game twice WTF?

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@whiteflame
1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish
5. iLikePie5 (1)
6. ILikePie5 (2)
7. Supadudz
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders
10. That2User
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Could be political motivated killers like the DC snipers or uncle Ted vs ones that kill just for fun like Ted Bundy. Although Ted Bundy could be 3rd party in that set up given his influence in the Republican party
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So many potential flips.

A lot of California SKs 

A lot of truck driver SKs

From my extensive studies on becoming pardon I mean on other psychology of serial killers many got hit hard on the head as children like almost all of them so the split could be head injuries in the developing stage vs not in it. 

We also have what profilers would divide up as organized vs disorganized killers. 

We also have serial killer partners such as the ken and barbie killers vs non paired SKs.
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Fuck popcorning. Somebody anybody please talk about it!!!!!!!!
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Lunatic said the theme is disturbing so yes we have to spend a lot of time talking about rape and I am not secretly gratifying myself while reading your responses with detailed information.
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@ILikePie5
Popcorning to you. Tell me in explicit detail about a sex crime you did? Or your modus operandi when it comes to sex crimes.
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Here is what we are going to do. Last game we did make or female this game I want to hear about rapes.

Did your killer rape dead bodies?

Did he rape and then kill the victims?

Did he rape but murder different people than he raped?

If your killer raped nobody I want to hear about that as well.

I will go first. My killer was a rapist but his rape career was separate from his murder career. I don't think they overlapped at all but maybe they did. 

I am pretty sure I would separate his rape and murder career though
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If you are a guest on a visa, you are expected to operate with some level of honor and supporting terrorism is both dishonorable and makes you a threat to the country. 

Rights like free speech are reserved for niggas like me who have American blood running through their veins.

Blood and soil nigga
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