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@ILikePie5
He is wrong. But I may reveal since I don't think it matters too much . I know he's wrong because the wiki does not call me an antagonist like the character he was looking at
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@ILikePie5
From what I saw in the wiki yesterday but I didn't Google to see if he started that way
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The thing that makes me think it is maybe not a chess move is that Walz did it and he's not really a MAGA Republican
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Like Peter Parker wasn't changed to black. Miles Morales is a completely independent character that stands on his own.Â
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@ILikePie5
Yeah just saw that lol. Marvel is literally the only company that can create black characters without being patronizing
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Hold on. Annette is literally black. Why did lunatic say only one black character exists?
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@whiteflame
Could we have Owen hydra with that2 if they are gonna be this inactive?
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@Casey_Risk
We don't have to lynch anyone but I always strive to narrow my scum pool.Â
Looking forward to your detailed reads when you get off of work.
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@Casey_Risk
Who do you want to lynch?Â
We aren't making much progress. I mean my scum pool is narrowed to you Barney lunatic and savant. That's too large of a scum pool for me. How can I eliminate somebody from it?
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Tried and got more detailed and it's still failing.
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I tried it to see if you were full of shit and it gave me half a glass. One more prompt to be safe though
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@AustinL0926
I would be willing to assist with a Casey, Luna or savant lynch at the moment. We are approaching 24 hours remaining and I feel like if we don't start all sharing our reads we won't be able to coalesce around a lynch given how slow the DP feels
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Here is where I am at
Lean town
Pie
That2
Austin
Vader
Null
Barney
Casey
Lean scum
2. Savant
3. Lunatic
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@AustinL0926
That's a good point about lunatic. Is he leaning on thematic analysis because it gives him subject matter to post about while he avoids the harder task of behavioral analysis.Â
We know theme analysis is usually worthless anyway. Although to be fair whiteflame is a straight shooter it might be easy to get into his head if somebody knows the theme well
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I like how pie seems to be picking up on the same stuff as me. If he is thinking like me than that makes him lean town.Â
Who is left?
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We are almost 48 hours in. Who are we lynching. If savant is scum than that2 is probably town. Vader should be lynched for policy reasons but is probably town. I am liking the effort from Austin. I think if savant is saying he can be town confirmed than he should state how now so we can look at other people.
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@Sidewalker
Bro are you pretending politicians have special cellphones the rest of us don't? They use the same shit we do and attach MDM software.Â
Are you comparing some random shit you sold for field communications to cellphone chats on signal?
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@ILikePie5
No because I am black and because whiteflame is woke so he can't make black people scum. Plus my role is confirmable and I have never seen scum with it . I can confirm it basically anytime I feel like prior to mylo.
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@Sidewalker
Nonsense, I spent decades selling telecommunications equipment to the government, especially the military, and they are freakish about security and encryption, they won't even consider it if it isn't the absolute best. And by the way, it doesn't have to be proprietary to be the best there is, you just have to be willing to pay the price, and for secure channels, they do.Â
So you're talking about hardware?Â
Why would you state "nonsense" and then follow it up with absolutely nothing that contradicts anything I said?
By necessity, not everything is going to be discussed in the situation room.Â
Do you know how often the government is tricked into buying fake Cisco routers which is a major security concern? I think you are overstating the governments paranoia.
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@whiteflame
I mean... do you want me to just give you a list of sources that all provide similar information?
If they are cyber security professionals I would be open to reading their opinions.
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Wait until they find out that American spies use Tor to communicate.Â
"Why are spies being put in danger by sharing secrets over the commercially available Tor network"
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I am just glad it's not the conservative media pushing this narrative to Boomers.Â
Walz deserves criticism but implying the use of this app is irresponsible is silly especially since every administration has used signal since it was invented
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The media keeps pushing this commercial app thing implying the government can come up with something more secure. Literally top secret information has been shared between officials over signal since obama
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I don't think any expert who has stated signal is insecure can be trusted, particularly since it's approved for use of top officials.
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Do we all agree that Walz should be fired though? I mean can we trust this was an honest mistake when this guy is aligned with neocons?
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Ideally journalists are uses MDMs set up by professionals in their organizations to help them and certainly the director of national intelligence should be and most likely is.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
"phone's secure enclave", the implication that a phone is more secure than a PC is naive. Maybe an iphone because of their rather wise policy of using full drive encryption without making users jump through too many hoops.
I think the statement is about a created stored enclave on the phone and saying that multiple devices can receive information from signal. You can protect against multiple devices having access to your signal messages but the statement is that messages have the potential to live outside of that secure enclave if you use signal on multiple devices
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@Double_R
Ryan Mcbeth is a cyber security expert who is pretty explicitly liberally biased. I am sure he will comment soon but has ignored it. I will be interested in what he has to say but I will say the mistake was in including the journalist not in using signal as stated officials have been explicitly told to use signal
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@Vader
We are on day 2 and the DP is moving slow as fuck I don't think anyone is rushing anything
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@Savant
Does anyone want to come forward with an example of a time they legitimately scum slipped as scum and got called out on it? Because in my experience that has never happened.
I personally have legitimately scum slipped and been caught. Also I have done it, caught myself and nobody noticed so it happens to me. Maybe you are immune to making mistakes
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@Vader
Take a stand. Jesus Christ. Obviously both conclusions you are trying to make here can't work. Which do you think is more likely?
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@FLRW
Lol.. this sounds like a funny plot. Is it worth the watch? I know deniro is unhinged but is the series entertaining at all?
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If I saw a linked devices on my signal account I would just get a new account tbh
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@whiteflame
Email is more secure. I agree but Jesus it would be a lot more painful than a messaging app, especially when you can go to the signal settings and literally looked for linked devices and disconnect them which I would hope is routinely done for this level of communication
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@Double_R
Where are you getting I am being overly critical of the journalist. Yes the journalist should report on this. I had a minor criticism that he didn't expose his presence and let them know he was listening in.Â
Signal is secure relative to what it's intended for - an app anyone can download to protect their personal communications. It is not secure when held to the standards applicable for securing classified information.
You are talking out of your ass here. I am studying cyber security and I am telling you that I made this same mistake before studying it.Â
The layman thinks open source is less secure because anyone can look at the code. It feels intuitively correct. Anyone can literally look at flaws. However in real life particularly when it comes to an app as popular as signal then you have millions of pen testers able to find weaknesses and they are secured faster and more thoroughly. The governments advantage is not that they are better at securing data. They aren't any better than me. Their advantage is in offensive measures. Me and the CIA are on equal grounds when it comes to defensive measures.Â
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@ILikePie5
I thought my vote was already on savant but yes was trying to give him a chance to respond when I pointed that outÂ
Unvote VTL savant
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@whiteflame
All I am saying is that same weakness would be in any other medium they used. If they emailed it would have the same weakness. You can't really have the signals not appear publicly. Email also uses asymmetric encryption and session keys. It's the same exact weakness.
I could see limited use for secure lines of communication. Like actual hard lines that are untappavle but those wouldn't be available when you have multiple people communicating thousands of miles apart at the same time and messages are more secure than a phone call.
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@Greyparrot
Unlikely, perhaps someone else?
If I had time I would look at close associates of waltz who also have the last name Goldberg and see if they were intended for the communication but he fucked up
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@whiteflame
They aren't explaining it well. It uses asymmetric encryption. That means one password for encrypting and a second for decrypting. You can only decrypt with the second password so if another computer captures the data they can't decrypt it without the credentials which includes the receivers password. If they have those credentials it may be undetectable, I have to check. I also need to check and see but I think signal uses temporary session keys as well which means they would have to intercept and decrypt in real time
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@whiteflame
. The federal government shouldn't assume journalist's phones are this secure, and even if they did assume that, they shouldn't be making these journalists privy to information that they do not have the security clearances to receive.
I don't disagree I just don't want anyone discouraged from using signal because they think the feds can crack it.
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