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@DebateArt.com
There is a captcha verification error when I attempt to login. It skips the captcha entirely
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@Vader
Use the HDMI cord off your PS5 and connect it to your TV
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Guys I am going to try and get a vote count up soon but we may have a problem. If you log out of the site I don't think you can log back in. At least temporarily. So I am stuck on my phone doing this.
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@Double_R
You misunderstood the entire argument. Your IQ is showing
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@Casey_Risk
Then pretend to be scum. You always last as scum, so by acting scummy you will make it longer
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@Yassine
That's quite a but to digest. I like you and will do my best
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@ILikePie5
Savant's affiliation and role have been left intentionally blank
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@Casey_Risk
You may now join purgatory, but no discussion of cookies or anything related to cookies
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Casey-
Role - Casey you win with town. Your character is "activism is easy". Your role is activist. Once per game you can stop a lynch and force the DP to restart. That player becomes unlynchable. Your diary entry follows in the next post
character- The activist is in an easy position that is unfair to the average policy maker. The activist gets to propose stupid policy positions that sound good but never has to take responsibility for the results. [[Israel vs Hamas Debate]]
These activists the ones leading the charge and also the most easily influenced, also seem to have no problem promoting policies that harm people in higher crime areas by pushing to keep prison sentences short. They get to virtue signal while harming the social safety of others. [[Social avoidance of death]] Meanwhile their own safety remains virtually the same, in their gated community with armed security guards.
#liberalism #leftism #democrat #politics
#activism
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Role- ???????????????
Character- Israel's suspicious activity during 9-11
journal entry- The dancing Israeli’s refers to an incident that happened on 9/11, just prior to and after the attack on the twin towers. Here is a summary of how these men were discovered after the attacks.
> _A Mossad "surveillance team" made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11._
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> _The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers._
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> _Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (HA'ARETZ 9/17/01)_
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> _"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness._
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> _[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (_[_AP and GI_](http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/dancing4.htm)_)_
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> _Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact. Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (Yediot America 11/2/01)_
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> _The FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: "Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion." (_[_New York Post_](http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/dancing6.htm)_)_
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> _"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (_[_The Record N.J. News_](http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/dancing5.htm)_)_
These men were arrested and held for about 6 months. At least 2 of them were discovered to be Mossad agents (Israeli spies). They originally just claimed to be tourists, until Israel begged for their release. [http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44477.htm](http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44477.htm)
Later on an Israeli talkshow, when they were asked why they came to the United States, they said they came to document 9/11, which means they must have had knowledge it was going to happen. [http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/06/Israel/spies7.html](http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/06/Israel/spies7.html)
Pictures of the dancing Israelis can be found here after a foia release. Conveniently their faces are erased from the photos, so we can’t see the happy expressions witnesses mentioned. [https://dancingisraelis.com/](https://dancingisraelis.com/)
Why would Mossad agents be parked close by watching the twin towers and celebrating after the attack. Why would they tell reporters that they were there to document 9/11? Why did they refuse to say if they were on a mission from Mossad and what it was, after asked by American interviewers?
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Employees of the Israeli owned instant messaging company [Odigo received texts](https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231) warning of an imminent attack on the Twin Towers two hours before the attacks happened. A secure service used by Mossad. Who in Israel knew of the attacks 2 hours prior?
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Israel literally warned the U.S. of imminent attacks. It’s true. The biggest reason we know they had foreknowledge is because they quite literally warned the United States government about an impending attack on the twin towers.
Early in August Israel warns the United States
> “50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists are inside the US and planning an imminent "major assault on the US" aimed at a "large scale target"
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Later the same month they send another warning saying the following
> “Israel gives the US a list of 19 terrorists inside the US planning an imminent attack, the list names at least four of the hijackers, including Mohamed Atta, Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi”
It is likely that Israel was very vulnerable to terrorism, so they had extremely good intelligence prior to 9/11. The recent attack by Hamas among many other attacks are evidence of why Israeli intelligence would need to be so aggressive about tracking and monitoring radical Islamic elements. [[Israel vs Hamas Debate]]
#Israel #9-11
#conspiracy
#terrorism #jews
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affiliation- Evil cookie giVER
CHARACTER- This can be very traumatic for the enlightened person who knows that you cannot live in the world without committing some form of evil. [[Hylics pneumatics and psychics]] . The NPC, rarely realizes the harm he causes. Perhaps they become vegetarians, and yet they have no ideal the animals that must die just to keep crops safe from rodents, insects and moles. The normie can be unaware of the harm caused to the world with no issues, but also may realize the harm and easily accept it. Among these groups of people the psychopath stands out. These are NPCs who lack the ability to feel empathy for the most part, but will often pretend to have deep empathy to climb to the top of a type of sick social game. Being a conservative does not really lend itself well to climbing social hierarchies and so the easy thing to do is to just fake concern for some social cause. We know it is fake concern because often these individuals will promote solutions that make the problem worse, while the solution from the right side of the political aisle will actually be effective. Or sometimes they just invent problems whole cloth and pretend they are real to have a never ending war on some stupid shit.
#npc #psychology #evil #morality #psycopathy
#npc #psychology #evil #morality #psycopathy
Remaining players
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2. Greyparrot
3. lunatic
4. Pie
6. Mharman
7. Vader
9. Owen
10. Banana
11. Joebob
12. Austin
13. Barney
14. Whiteflame
With 11 players it takes 6 votes to lynch. DP ends in 72 hours
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@Yassine
What is Jizwa? What is life like for Jews or Christians who live in mostlyMuslim countries? How great are Muslims treated by Christians and Jews when they flee their own countries for theirs?
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@IlDiavolo
Candace Owens late out all the evidence. Things like fun y business around early photos. Lying about who early photos were of. Having a MTF transgender doctor on her payroll who she routinely visits.
Here is another thing and ai would call it a confession. When she sues people for calling her Trans, she never says she is suing them for that, but instead for other mistakes they made in their fact gathering?
If she wasn't trans why not just sue them for calling her one? Why sue for things unrelated to that which help form the hypothesis?
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@IlDiavolo
Candace Owens breaks down all of that. Just watch all her videos and take notes. I think the issue is how far liberal governments are willing to go to lie to their people
You also do see Macron being into pedophile stuff like with the author I mentioned who writes about raping Muslim boys
Macron called him a genius and praised his worl
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@Yassine
Hitler (PBUH) tried to end the Jew problem. I figured that would tell you where whites stand.
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@Mall
What can these men do for a resolution?
I would advise the man this is happening to to stop being a bitch. Immediately leave and next time be an alpha male who people think twice about abusing
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@Yassine
Hard cope man. There are more Americans in the Middle East than Muslims in the US. The ME real GDP is 2/3rd that of the US with almost equivalent industrial sector. This isn't the 50s anymore. You should brace for touchdown, cz your empire is collapsing.
I say get them the fuck out. The middle east is for middle easterners. Now if they do another 9-11 or anything like it after you pull out than just eliminate them with nukes. If they terrorize their own people fine but if they go to the Olympics or hijack a plan in another country just glass them. Christians are humans so you don't have these sorts of problems with them.
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@Earth
You are in purgatory, you will be joined soon.
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Welcome to Purgatory. You are not allowed to talk about your actions in the Hell diary mafia game. You also may not reveal if you have received a cookie or not.
Purgatory ends when all the demons have been eliminated.
Current players/
1. Earth
You may not exorcize demons until the pre-determined in game actions have occurred. You may not post in this thread unless you have been tagged by me.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
Vote Count
(1/8) Lunatic- Owen
(1/8) Pie- Mharman
(8/8)Earth- Pie, GP, Casey, Lunatic, Savant, whiteflame, Barney, Banana
Earth was Lynched. Earth was Guilty, please submit night actions
No more posting and hopefully a moderator closes the thread if they have an opportunity and want to be kind enough to oblige
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@Barney
You had no link to the destiny fallacy so I added one to your wiki but half assed it. You're welcome https://debate.miraheze.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Destiny
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(1/8) Lunatic- Owen
(1/8) Pie- Mharman
(7/8)Earth- Pie, GP, Casey, Lunatic, Savant, whiteflame, Barney
Mod announcement- Even though time traveling is not expressly forbidden in the rules it violates the principles of fair play, so cut it out.
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(1/8) Lunatic- Owen
(1/8) Pie- Mharman
(6/8)Earth- Pie, GP, Casey, Lunatic, Savant, whiteflame
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@Barney
Vote Count
(1/8) Lunatic- Owen
(1/8) Pie- Mharman
(5/8)Earth- Pie, GP, Casey, Lunatic, Savant
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@Swagnarok
1,600 square miles of territory in Ukraine. Which sounds impressive, but remember that Ukraine is 233,000 square miles in size.
I don't think they want to hold Ukraine. I think they just want the Donetsk region TBH. It seems like a strategic thing to hold those resources and they are probably struggling to pull out because the Russian leaders want to leave with their egos in tact, but I don't think the plan was ever to hold all of the Ukraine
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@tigerlord
Why would Rebecca's husband being a child molestor ake it okay for you to be one or muhhamed?
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(1/8) Lunatic- owen
(1/8) Banana- Lunatic,
(3/8) pie- Casey, mharman, owen
(2/8)Mharman- pie, greyparrot
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@Stephen
Muslims in Great a Britain are right now calling incest laws racist and asking for exceptions.
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A gay Muslim leader was recently killed in a terror attack.
Please pray for him
Christianity won't accept that sort of sin but glad you guys are becoming more tolerant of degeneracy
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There is some overlap with the left I think is healthy and it's unfortunate they struggle to help us in those areas. Hopefully if they ever gain the levers of power we are sensible enough to help them in those overlapping areas. One would be the minimum basic income. Conservatives have called it a fair tax as a marketing strategy to get boomers on board but liberals see the term fair tax and think it's a flat tax when really it's just a novel way to create a minimum basic income.
Another area is reducing military presence overseas. ..
We also agree with liberals on genociding non whites, which is why we really need to get behind and support abortion.
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@AustinL0926
Not sure what the votecount is looking like, but obviously don't hammer if we are close to one.
Sorry about that. Will get to that after I am off work
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Why do you guys like incest so much? Could that be the reason why your society's are inferior and you flew to the West? Or is it a combination of things?
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@tigerlord
do not know why you brought that topic at all. Virginity is kept for halal still found in abundance in islamic world which is gold thing in the eyes of every single person. I bet even you would considered it something special.
Virginity is special. What's up with all the marriages to children and cousin fucking?
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@tigerlord
Allah said make a verse like quran, some funny poetry about Corona virus which is written like quran does mean it's like quran.
So I guess there will be always ways to deny it by falsely claiming the poetry is not as beautiful. A way to falsify it was given and the words of the prophet apparently get corrupted for your convenience
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Islam is so shitty that Muslims all over the world are literally begging to go to America because of how shitty their countries are.
You would think that they would realize the direct correlation between living in shit holes and Islam.
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In the Quran, verses 11:13 and 11:14 of Surah Hud state, "Or do they say, “He has fabricated this ˹Quran˺!”? Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Produce ten fabricated sûrahs like it and seek help from whoever you can—other than Allah—if what you say is true!
Any time this is done and Islam is disproven, muslims cope and seethe and deny it. SOme girl did exactly this and definitively proved the Quran was false and went to prison for 6 months. Many others who did this have been violently attacked and murdered
Here is the Surah the girl wrote
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@JoeBob
As in DP lasting a whole week?
Yes. My theory is that it would help ease the pressure of posting a lot, which might actually help us get more games or bigger games if somebody can sign up but be less pressured to post so often. If course 5 days and a 48 hour NP could also potentially be a good compromise. I don't know.
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The following is what confuses me about AI Hitler
We need a religion that glorifies power, that exalts the individual and the state above all else
Is he for the individual or the state. Why this contradiction in the same exact sentence?
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Becoming a Nazi would require you to lose yourself as an individual and commit yourself to your race.
It's a type of death or suicide. Something you have mentioned you are scared of in other posts. Being a Nazi might not be right for you.
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I am also wondering if we should play with DP times a bit. Perhaps and i wouldn't jump right to this but a 7 days DP makes a lot of sense to accommodate some people who are less active nd perhaps have real lifes that interfere with posting too much. It could be the difference between a person who posts twice in a dp and 10 times
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@badger
If money doesn't mean anybody's work, what does it mean?
I don't know. I just think consumption tax works elsewhere.
Getting into what money means is beyond the scope of my knowledge so I can only guess but cryptocurrency seems to go against what we think money should be.
When the world went away from the gold standard it also seemed to move away from currency holding some real value,
I almost think it would be useless for me to dig into "what money is" because we are in for a paradigm shift soon.
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I am sure to you maybe the money question is common sense. I don't have much of that. I have to work a bit harder for what I know. which means I just have to say I don't know.
One of the things I respect about you is that you seem to know a lot of things through having good intuition.
For me simple questions take a lot more work. Had you asked me what money is a few years ago I would have said it represents the value of goods or services to get around barter. so it would represent time or labor in that way as you wouldn't pay for an apple you can find on the ground or on a tree as walking so it's a type of mixture of labor with nature.
Today I don't know how to answer the same question. Given how much people like Logan Paul makes, I think we would also have an argument that money also represents attention.
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What about when we're not? We got government coupons that do what exactly?
The conservatives in the United States have created a plan to pay everyone a minimum basic income for just existing. It is called "The fair tax" as a marketing ploy. Democrats here typically shoot it down because it involves a tax on consumption so it would make it so you can't weaponize the tax system against political opponents.
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Let's not forget also that slowing technological progression say by making a cure take 10 years to come to market is also a type of murder. If somebody is dying of cancer and given 3 months to live, they don't have time for a drug to take 10 years to get to market. They kind of need immediate help
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@badger
What do you want, Mom and pop's formerly-a-meth-lab pharmaceuticals? If you think this isn't a business area that requires extreme rigor then I can't have a conversation with you like you are a rational adult.
How does Linux work?
Is that an operating system that takes a billion dollars of bribes to get to market or is it something that works well without government who is practically owned by the donor class?
All open source projects are really evidence that we don't need to give the government who is owned by the donor class all the power. We can in fact give people the power. That citizens can do great things.
If you think that it really takes a billion dollars to bring a drug to market that there is no room for a university biochemistry lab to design a drug and have the FDA test it for say 100 million instead of a billion than maybe I can't have a rational conversation with you .
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