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@Lunatic
I hope everyone is willing to consider every option at LYLO. If I flip town or we go with Vader and he flips town we need to be willing to go with other options.
It will be tough to change from Vader but last DP you can see evidence of me considering other options deep into the Austin lynch.
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Okay well somebody has to start and it looks like this DP we are lynching me or supa. I would say if the lynch is me than I am pretty confident that supa is scum, but I wouldn't rush to a judgement. Just take your time to figure things out next DP just because we are supposed to lose if me and Vader are both town, it doesn't mean we have to.
VTL Vader
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I decided to give my energy to philly instead since I have to deal with these people. You're welcome
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@Savant
Yeah I am not one of those people which may explain my sympathy for those who don't being greater than my sympathy for those who do
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Education costs tens of thousands when before it's a few hundred or thousand
Because it leads to higher pay.
Disagree. While yes it is partially caused by that. I think the problem began when they outlawed IQ tests for promotions and so companies were forced to use college degrees because to a certain extent it filters for IQ.
Now college is so watered down you can graduate with an aiQ of merely 100 but outside of education, sociology and psychology degrees you can still be reasonably sure the graduate has an IQ of 120.
Engineering degrees you can safely assume about 130.
Anyway by forcing companies to use college degrees as a metric for IQ instead of IQ directly than it made college more in demand. This created more demand with the same level of supply.
Then you create programs for military to get them educated. (gI bill maybe) And then you further increase demand while keeping supply the same.
Perhaps most insidious was the easy loans and grants becoming available which has a type of double whammy effect.
It increases demand but when loans become a common pay method (same with insurance) it insulates the customers to the price a bit and so it allows for colleges to raise tuition prices to whatever the hell the loan companies will tolerate.
You also have company like Devry who essentially use their customers as pay pigs for useless degrees as well.
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@Savant
That's because they've gotten bigger.
That does actually explain a lot of it, but it still doesn't explain house prizes quadrupling over the last 10 years. If we keep inflation steady prices should only double once every 20 years
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@Mall
I know I was just frustrated because I struggled to find the video
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Why are you linking to you channel so I have to dig through videos instead of to the video?
Also start mentioning debate art.com at the beginning of videos or as president of the site or I will consider these spam threads and take the appropriate actions that are within my abilities as president
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@Best.Korea
I still love you too you silly faggot, and for addressing me the way you have I order you to wear studded panties for the next week while out and about.
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@Double_R
A reference to the idea championed by Tucker Carlson that videos showing no violence at the Capitol somehow cancels out the videos that show violence.
I don't know what happened to "mostly peaceful riots" maybe that only applies to protests you agree with, but the reason this is so important is because the media portrayed it as some sort of unarmed insurrection where every single person there was there to attack cops and for the entirety of the time. Also certain footage was hidden such as the police allowing protestors into the building.
Plus even you tried to claim the only people in prison were those who attacked cops when the media who is clearly biased against patriots is reporting only 33% of the people in prison were there for attacking police.
Do you know what I would have did if I was a politician there while the place was being stormed by literally working class people. This isn't the lumpenproletariat, so they aren't really just going to randomly get violent. I would have just addressed the crowds and had a back and forth. The same thing you see Vivek Ramaswamy and Obama do when they were on the campaign trail. Just talk to people
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@Lunatic
For the millionth time ( I swear we explained this at least half a hundred times last day phase) the person roleblocked wouldn’t have been able to night kill anyone.
Austins pitch was to confirm a member of town. Which makes sense because his blocking only works on town members.
If he could block than scum answer is literally to just defer the NK and deny information to town
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@Mharman
Once again, we must hope Philadelphia can take down a team more hateable, as they did to the evil empire years ago. Go Eagles!
Sorry bro. I live in the Philly area and want to see people suffer. My energy is going the other direction and I am quite possibly the Nobody so where my energy goes, normally things happen
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@Best.Korea
It's actually hateful to let them do what they want. It's the same reason we intervene in other forms of self mutilation. Because we love the person and want them to stop hurting.
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I am not allowed to delete posts this game so you guys have to figure out what to do with that LOL
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I thought part of my learning disability was too much empathy. Like feeling empathy for trees. I used to tear up because I thought of leaves as broken trees. I had to be forced to eat meat.
I would cry and be bed bound with depression if I stepped on a cock roach.
So that stuff is pretty retarded.
I still cry about suffering sometimes and the wife catches me and mocks me for it, so maybe with the negative reinforcement, I can overcome it.
It literally has no benefit outside of immediate family. I am in this hotel but transitioning to a new apartment and people I guess can sense something about me so they randomly come up to me for consultations. My empathy forces me to act. I can't tell if I am being used or not.
The woman down the hall was getting kicked out, she lost her job and couldn't pay. Normally in hotels you can't establish residency no matter how long you have been there. I found her a pro Bono lawyer and researched some laws. She managed to stay 2 more months rent free.
Another woman I gave a consultation for concerning custody of her kid. The kids father was caught meeting up with a boy, so I showed her how to get an emergency hearing and sole custody of her child.
One of the managers made herself unpopular for something I won't get into. She needed the job but didn't feel safe, so I showed her how the laws protect her. How she doesn't have to feel unsafe at work and we worked together to get her unemployment due to the companies inability to keep her safe.
These people just gravitate towards me and my empathy gives me zero benefit. It's like a disability. I don't think random strangers normally gravitate towards people for consultations this way. I am not sure what energy I am giving off.
Anyway, I can't seem to fix my own life.
I never had the learning disability I have explained to me too well, but I am guessing the empathy and making weird connections plays into that somehow.
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@Lunatic
, I hope that humble pie tasted real fvcking good ya sh1t.
It didn't taste very good for the record.
I also think if you were scum, you wouldn't even have typed this sentence insinuating you think I am town.
If you know me than there is literally no in between. I either feel very narcissistic.
Like I have an IQ of 160. Not by online tests but real ones so I think it makes me a genius who is better than everyone, but when I am not thinking that I think I am a literal retards based on all the learning disability classes I was in and being prodded by a team of psychologists a lot as a child for some reason.
You know a retard may be oblivious at times and think themselves a genius.
Anyway when stuff like that happens it completely shatters my confidence but I think if you read the end of the DP again you'll see I was going back and forth in the end and I didn't want there to be a no lynch.
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I guess whiteflame is the most solid town here. He'll be the NK most likely.
So that leaves
Wylted
Supa
Lunatic
Casey
One of us is getting lynched this DP, most likely me or supa
There is also a world where Casey is town . I feel like we lose if we live in that world.
If me and supa are both town, that is also a world we most likely lose in
The biggest problems are casey and lunatic, if one of them are scum.
Most to least town for me would be
Wylted
Whiteflame
Casey
Lunatic
Supa
We also know that despite Austin lying to us he felt like supa was scum. Lunatics first reaction was to notice a common buddying scum tactic of supas to buddy. Supa says he fixed it, but it's really hard to fix bad habits, particularly if you are literally a frat boy who is probably chugging beers and smoking blunts between posts.
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I think savant had lunatic as his next scum pick. He seemed unwilling to entertain voting supa at the end of the DP, when I suggested switching it up.
Pie also has good instincts and was scum reading Casey early DP 1.
I just think we should lynch supa this DP and if he ends up being town we just get comfortable with the fact that either lunatic or Casey got really fucking good at the game and congratulate them.
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I don't think he could have confirmed anybody anyway. Isn't a block useless against a commuter, lunatic used his role, I am vanilla I wouldn't know I was blocked.
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@Lunatic
He was so aggressive on the GP defense, he even went as far as to scum read the people pushing GP
Vader defended GP DP1 also though it was early in the DP and he expressed some worry about how fast town was coalescing around him.
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@Lunatic
who the hell claims jailkeeper directly after a doctor flip? Anyways, I hope that humble pie tasted real fvcking good ya sh1t.
I was right though. He wasn't jailkeeper.
I thought the claim did not fit for balance reasons and was correct. A lot of the inconsistencies I pointed out were explained based on his real role.
Besides I tried to back out and lynch sups but you were the only one willing to vote for him anyway and though Austin's vote was on him he said he would remove his vote to ensure his role went through.
I think we all know that supa is the last scum and he just made a ballsy claim DP1. I don't care if we lynch him first and me second or the other way around.
I feel some doubts towards you because it feels unreal that you could be confident he was town based on his behavior, but whatever I guess at mylo I would probably vote against supa if it came down to me you and him so either way the game is not in my hands I am down for a supa lynch and I am in enough scum pools I am willing to self vote just to progress the game, but I think no matter who we decide on, a self vote won't be necessary
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@Math_Enthusiast
The recent auditing by Doge, shows why trusting the government to spend money wisely is retarded.
See my thread on USA ID
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We are currently getting rid of the slave class. Illegal immigrants explored for slave wages and liberals are complaining and say prices will go up. They are saying slave labor benefits us so getting rid of it is bad
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Level of service matters as well. For example a doctor sees as many people a day as a waitress but his skills is more rare and more valuable to people than having a plate brought to you
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Pay isn't normally decided by how much work. It's imperfect but normally it depends on how many people you serve.
For example a teacher serves about 20 children in her class while professional athletes serve millions of people every game, so the athlete is paid more
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Also if it is X shot I don't think saying the number of shots is necessary unless the claim is suspicious
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@whiteflame
Not you but everyone else. I agree not much value in getting more information from you
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A large part of my scum read was because I felt like he was lying about his role.
I don't know if it's Vader or lunatic but I feel like lunatic thinking Austin is town, is pretty suspicious. I feel like he was so scummy you almost have to have inside information to put Austin in your town pile, but lunatic was also playing a lot of wifom with his logic and has does that routinely as town also .
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I think we should all full claim.now and lay out our actions and results to this point. Especially since it seems like most roles are 2x anyway and useless by now.
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a night action, a random player will be chosen. If that random player if mafia, the roleblock will fail.
This explains why his testing of savant made no sense to me as far as how he went about it.
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@whiteflame
I just know it's frustrating because I was right that a jailkeeper couldn't exist.
For future reference if anyone does lie just come clean at some point. It's no big deal
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Did they exchange Heil Hitler salutes?
No, but they did a gesture to let each other know their hearts go out to the other
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@Greyparrot
His original ideal behind the tarrifs is that he wants to renegotiate every single trade agreement one by one. While previous administrations cared about win win situations, Trump just cares about getting the best deal imaginable for the American people.
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@Swagnarok
As somebody who was a part of that rationalist movement for so long and still hang around the various fringes, this hurts.
One of the issues with rationalism in the extreme is it can lead to some crazy outcomes. For example take Pareto's principal.
Pareto says that since the reward of believing in Jesus is eternal life and you will die if you are wrong anyway than the rational choice is Christianity.
This is technically true. We are taking millions or I finite years and so what gamblers call the expected value is going to be more positive by believing.
Its these same sorts of calculations with rationalism. Pareto's mugging is where a mugger walks up to pareto and instead of putting a gun to his head, he says give me everything in your wallet and I will come back and hand you 20 million dollars tomorrow.
Let's say he has $10 in his wallet. You could calculate the EV of the decision to give it up at $11, which would make the correct move handing over everything in your wallet.
These rationalists would in theory be okay with nuking Germany if there was a 0.01% chance that a man in Germany in a lab would destroy the world by creating a deadly virus. Over an extended time frame nuking Germany could save billions of lives at only the cost of about 20 million lives.
These rationalists have done things like start a cult in silicon valley to willingly submit to brainwashing on the off chance it helps save the world. The rationalist community has a high barrier of entry, intellectually anyway so these are very smart people.
You also have Sam Bankman Fried who used the same rationalization to steal billions while simultaneously living like a scrub.
It's not all bad of course but the community's ideology and they don't realize this is an ideology that has led to Marxism and killing hundreds of millions of people in the name of Marxism to create a perfect society. It's also what led to the eugenics movement championed by Nazis.
These types of calculations are not good for society and we need to seek a higher truth. One that supercedes logic. Removing this in favor of using your ability to reason as some sort of God like thing has caused the greatest catastrophies in our history
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@Greyparrot
As he should.
The right has been playing within the rules created by the left for too long and breaking free from that nonsense is a good step.
I was thinking lately as well. They have taken over the museums and misrepresent history to lambast us all the time. We have CNN anchors literally trying to distance themselves from the madness of woke politics and they are being allowed to get away with it.
We need to preserve images of their lunacy in museums and force them to face the evil they have done. They aren't the only ones who should get to define what art is.
We usually see ourselves as above that and don't villainize them for evil shit like supporting commies and calling Joseph McCarthy a liar.
We need to make sure history is not lost though and that they account for that evil shit
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@Best.Korea
Here read this article where Gen x is called evil for being colorblind
That's a real article by a real liberal mad about equality
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@Best.Korea
Please stop fabricating history. Thanks.
Literally ask anyone who grew up in the 80s and 90s . We were cool with faggots and niggers. It was "live and let live"
The first wedge was that liberals got upset when they saw we were colorblind and equality was achieved. If you take that from them than they have zero people to fool into voting them, so their first move was to say color blindness is racist. Literally Google colorblind is racist and you can see articles attacking Gen x for treating everyone equal and calling equality racist to divide
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@Best.Korea
Trans isnt an ideology so it doesnt have any founder, and LGBT education is literally aimed at educating kids to accept LGBT kids so bullying is reduced.
We need to differentiate trans gags with trans ideology and you are incorrect about the motivations behind the education system.
The system and this new system trying to replace it has deep philosophical and historical roots.
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@Best.Korea
If you dont understand the meaning of "want", then really, no point in making an argument.
This is one of the inherent problems with liberalism. There is more to life than having everything you want. Libertines are not happy people.
The wounds from bullying in childhood dont simply disappear. Do you know why LGBT was taught in schools? It wasnt to turn kids gay, it was to educate kids so they dont bully their trans classmates.
False, you can actually read from the founders of these ideologies about why they were pushing for that. Not that anything more than the results matter, but the goal was to promote philosophies which would undermine the influence of family and break up the family unit.
The Fabian socialists and many Marxists realize that the family unit stands in the way of destroying individual liberties in favor of a government that centralizes the economy. By promoting things that breaks up that unity such as making heteronormativity more rare and by learning how to favor outgroups, the economy can be more easily centrally planned
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@Best.Korea
Yes, like you are accepting now.
You should think about why that change occurred. Why was the entirety of American culture accepting just 30 years ago?
What happened?
It's mostly that all these accepting people were randomly told they were unaccepting, forcing trans ideology on their children. We were cool with them existing but pushing it on children is bad as is using their physical advantages to cheat in women's sports among a hundred other things.
Like I said. Hell even in the 70s all in the family was on television and portrayed trans individuals well and you see Archie Bunker crying because his trans friend was murdered.
So what happened? Why were we accepting and so open? Probably because most of us are generally good people and have the ideology of "live and let live"
We were really good both parts. The groups we accepted didn't return the favor, which showed us the error of our ways.
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@Best.Korea
I have never met a trans person who says that she wants to be bullied and mocked.
Of course not. I also never met a person excited to go through chemo therapy.
Did it ever occur to you that trans people would maybe feel better about themselves if they werent mocked and bullied by classmates, rejected by parents and left feeling like they are worthless just because they have different wishes?
The problem with your theory is that besides overstating the prejudices. They are actually more accepted after transitioning. Remember prior to all the surgeries they look like men who wear dresses. After the surgeries, many can pass for actual females and yet it isn't until the transition. You know the moment where they become most accepted, that suicide rates sky rocket.
So if creating this sort of social stigma prevents them from taking that final step than they are closer to being happy and able to accept themselves, which is a prerequisite of being accepted by others
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@Best.Korea
Technically there was also not a moment where white people were bullied but no in the 90s it wasn't and issue for the most part. You had the popularity of RuPaul, movies like tu Wong Fu which a bunch of conservativeales Even enjoyed. Powder puff games where males enjoyed dressing up as ladies to cheerlead. This reactionary push back was because the widespread acceptance they got wasn't enough. Then they started trying to get into female sports, transition children etc., however before that besides some isolated incidents all of us Gen X kids were pretty accepting.
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@Greyparrot
I haven't been tracking your conversation with whiteflame to know who is right, just expressing empathy towards what he feels.
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@Best.Korea
Yeah of course. Medicine tastes like shit sometimes.
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@Best.Korea
We did. The pushback honestly didn't come until around 2015
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@Best.Korea
If you don't bully them out of transitioning then they will and then they will hate themselves more.
Why are you opposed to teaching them self love and to accept themselves for who they are?
People do this with plastic surgery also. Yes it was Michael Jackson's wishes to have a white nose, but his face was practically falling off and had his brothers bullied him out of doing it and encouraged him that he was a beautiful person and should accept himself, perhaps he wouldn't have had a fucked up face and ended up dying
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@Best.Korea
That's the thing. They don't know what they want. They seek to transition out of self hatred. Once transition occurs they are actually more likely to commit suicide despite being more passable.
This is because they thought by killing the old self and becoming the opposite self they could attempt a type of suicide. However even after they transition they still find the self hatred is there so they kill themselves.
You see it's not being a disgusting tranny they want. Not truly. What they really want is to learn to love themselves. So
Step 1. Bully trannies to prevent others from taking that road
Step 2 . Teach the ones you saved self love.
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@Best.Korea
They shouldn't be accepted as it might encourage this behavior. In the 90s we practically all accepted them and didn't care that they considered themselves the wrong gender. We were cool with it, but they didn't let the acceptance end there. They started pushing a type of trans ideology on kids and demanding representation in every form of media. For an example of a tranny faggots who doesn't push trans ideology, see Blaire White
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@Shila
You seem knowledgeable about this stuff. Why don't you focus on debating and distilling this information instead of your trolling which no doubt wastes hours of your life every day that could be devoted to more interesting pursuits.
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