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Robert Byrd was never a 21st century US POTUS candidate.and Biden was making a joke about African Americans.
How is stating he doesn't want his kid to grow up in a racial jungle and promoting segregationism a joke https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/joe-biden-didn-t-just-compromise-segregationists-he-fought-their-n1021626
What policy(ies) are you referring too?
The ones that made them able to afford groceries. Oh and the first step act that released thousands of black inmates
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/thousands-federal-inmates-still-await-early-release-trump-era-first-st-rcna35162
If Harris enacted the same policy, then would you be as equally supportive of Harris doing the policy? If not, then you don't actually care about the policy; you only care about Trump
I haven't even stated if I agreed with the policies, but yes affordable groceries and the first step act are good policies. I have also supported efforts locally on the "Ban the box" initiative.
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@RemyBrown
He wants to fund Israel's war against Gaza; that is Neo Con.
No that wouldn't be neocon LOL. The neocons are very pro Israel but it doesn't mean everyone who is a pro Israel is a neocon.
Despite some claiming the term neocon was a way to insinuate somebody is Jewish or aligned with ajewish values, it has a real meaning.
Neocons are those who shifted towards a foreign policy that is very ambitious, you can see it outlined quite well in the "Bush Doctrine" . They also avoided social issues like the plague and seemed to bend over backwards to not be seen as offensive to liberal sensabilities.
You can see these types who were very present prior to Trump's takeover. It was people like John McCain, Liz Cheney, Dixk Cheney, Mitt Romney, George Bush, Paul Ryan etc.
Basically establishment Republicans.
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@RemyBrown
which lets everyone on DART know that you would still vote for him even if Trump performed a rally in a KKK uniform.
If it didn't stop Democrats from electing Robert Byrd a former KKK member or Joe Biden an open racist who said his true feeling on race prior to his party starting to pander to African americans, it slcertainly wouldn't effect my vote.
Why would I care if he simultaneously hates blacks while coincidentally having policies that improve their lives?
He could have a strong hatred for whites or even me personally and I would vote for him based on the fact his policies would make my life better.
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@JoeBob
what are your thoughts on Trump being a sex offender
The woman who made statements 50 years after the fact?
I think it's bullshit and mostly because her testimony matches precisely to the details of a law and order SVU episode. I can't remember what season. There was not very much evidence against him and it was clearly a political case.
I can say that even if it were true I would probably still vote for him. I mean my dad voted for Clinton even though he was a rapist. The only people it would discourage from voting are evangelical Christians, which is why I suspect this obviously false case was made.n
In fact in the last 10 years I have seen a lot of political cases. It's mostly people on TV that unwittingly become a political football but the targeting of actual politicians seems more disturbing. Like it's a message.
"IF YOU are anti establishment, we will put you in prison or a grave, we will bankrupt you and ruin your reputation for decades"
It's honestly something Bernie Sanders would have faced if he won as well. At least at a point in time I thought he would but after his losses he seemed to cuck to the establishment so maybe not
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@RemyBrown
I'm surprised you would say that. Trump is a neo con (wanting to fund Israel). So is Harris. Maybe you could vote for Chase Oliver
That's absurd. If he was a neocon than you wouldn't see that he basically single handedly pushed them out of the party, removed their power base and made them entirely unelectable for the foreseeable future.
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@Greyparrot
Scientists have noticed that are IQs are declining recently and we are having a type of reverse Flynn effect for similar reasons as mentioned in idiocracy.
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@RemyBrown
What would make you say that?
Cause the only thing worse than a Marxist is a neocon.
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@RemyBrown
Race vs Education spending vs IQ - Google Sheets indicates a correlation of over .5 between education spending ranking and IQ ranking. Sources are in the spreadsheet.
This is one of those situations where correlation does not equal causation. We know that IQ is mostly genetic. In the United States where even the poor are well nourished anyway.
We know that wealthy people are more likely to be high IQ. Property taxes go to schools and the wealthy pay more in property taxes so their schools will be better funded. It seems like Occam's razor will lead us to conclude that education spending and IQ is not causation.
I could see school funding resulting in better educated children or better academic tests but IQ seems to be a stretch
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@RemyBrown
The most left wing politician in the United States is Bernie Sanders, who wants to turn this nation into Norway (a nation that even Trump praised when he advocated for letting more people from Norway come here). The US left and the US right both approve of Norway in certain contextsNorway is very fiscally left wing
They are higher in the economic freedom index but lack some of the anti freedom policies of the United States. Bernie sanders was only interested in replicating their abti freedom policies so it would have moved us down the economic freedom index.
Anyway I think we all know he was trying to backdoor Marxism there. You can't admit to being Marxist as a politician. I will say if he won the primaries though and was up against Jeb bush, I would have voted for him
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@Greyparrot
I left mine because believe it or not the rednecks in North Carlolina have a gayness problem. Not even kidding. So many of these tough guy rednecks would see me as effeminate when I was 16 and try to fuck me.
Besides that when not around rednecks I was in predominantly black areas and at The time racial tension was a bit higher.... because of blacks....
So Florida was a relief. Still around mostly black people there for a while but they were cool. I moved a bit after just to keep up with my first sons mom since she was always trying to kidnap the boy. She kept him away pretty well even when I was close and she almost ended up in jail a few times for doing it, but we were playing some sort of game on her terms and my options were to voluntarily lose or have her end up in jail. Like a coward I decided to play nice but now I just move based on where I can get paid well and have a low cost of living in a safe area
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@RemyBrown
Keep in mind studies showing the difference in education between 3rd world country tries and 1st world would not count here because one the brain gets stimulated very little, but how exactly would the chemical composition of the brain be impacted by schools with the same curriculum having less funding that another school with the same curriculum?
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@RemyBrown
It just so happens that West Virginia produces way fewer intelligent people due to their inferior education system.
Provide a citation that the education system some how magically affects raw intelligence.
I have seen scientists attribute nutrition, Genetics and ease of life to IQ but I have seen zero people suggest that Inherent intelligence is effected to any significant degree by how could the public education system is.
How exactly would a school that does a better job teaching, increase a kids IQ anyway?
You claim an iQ of 140 right? So if you go to a community college what will your Iaq change to according to your theory? Now how much would an Ivy league college change your IQ according to your theory?
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@RemyBrown
I've started out very right wing in high school, but I've become more left wing as time has gone on.
I was a leftist in highschool like 90% of people. Most of us move away from things like that once we get away from the constant leftist barrage of media, teachers and parents.
Snopes has a left bias. So does reality.
That's odd. I guess that's why the furthest left countries on the economic freedom index like North Korea and Venezuela are the best countries to live in while countries at the top such as the United States, Germany and Switzerland suck so much.
Some are, other MAGA people are praising Trump when he called for IVF to be federally funded. Not only is this universal healthcare, but it also causes the death of a lot of zygotes (which the right argues are human beings).
I am pro life and like most prolife people we are okay with abortions in the first trimester. The pro choice people I have debated with here have went so far as to say that babies should be aborted for no reason up to one month after being born (see Peter Singer) which is going to far. I see no issue with IVF, though ai would oppose surrogacy.
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@Greyparrot
There's also the huge cultural difference that race baiters often ignore.
This dude thinks MIT grads are smarter than inbred west Virginia people because they have better elementary and middle school funding. He claimed to have an IQ of over 140 in another thread with that logic
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The left literally tried to end free speech, push for price controls and want to increase the size and scope of government while the only thing standing in their way is Trump and you are like
"Derp I guess since Trump only brings the country closer to my ideology but not directly to it and Harris will make it impossible for small government presidential candidates to get elected, I guess the intelligent play is to vote for Oliver"
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@RemyBrown
Trump expressing the claim he did implies that the majority of Haitians are eating pets.
You guys put words in his mouth. It's a way to dumb down the language for a broader audience. Essentially what he is saying is that Springfield has strained resources from the flood of Hatian immigrants.
I voted Jorgenson in 2020 and I plan on voting for Oliver in 2024 (so incorrect again).
To think I actually trusted your claim of having a high IQ. SmH
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@RemyBrown
It is why Massachusetts possesses a higher IQ than West Virginia. Both areas are extremely white; it is irrelevant
No that is not the reason IQs differ in west Virginia and Massachusetts. High IQ people will move to where there is more economic opportunities and usually early in their career will love to places like the northeast particularly some place like Massachusetts which has colleges like MIT.
You don't get a higher Iaq by being better educated. This is why not everyone is cut out to be an engineer or a doctor. You need a certain base level IQ to pursue those things, but pursuing that sort of higher education isn't going to magically raise your IQ.
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@RemyBrown
What he posted isn't relevant to this thread TBH it is only tangentially related.
We both trust Snopes, but Wylted does not
Depends on what they are fact checking. They do have a clear bias
He only trust right wing news, and you know right wing news will never say anything bad about Trump
Wrong I trust no news. Also wrong that Trump is above criticism by the right wing. They are literally kvetching that he would veto a federal abortion ban.
All he cares about wrt his political views is making sure Trump claims victory in November.
It is pretty important. Republicans will never win an election again if he loses not at that level anyway, and the nation will do what every nation does that moves left as evidenced by the economic freedom index.
He is not interested in any facts you try and promote (as unfortunate as that reality is, you need to understand it).
This is untrue. In fact ai should make some threads that promote kamala harris so I can show you that you guys use terrible arguments. If you were conservativebit is true I would rarely call out the shit arguments, but your ability to defend your position would be weak regardless and the reason I call out liberals for bad logic more than I call out conservatives is That I gain from losing an argument from a liberal. If I lose an argument to you than it might change me as a person. If I lose one to a person with similar views to me than ai barely change . I would prefer to debate people I disagree with so ai can grow more as a person.
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But being pro KKK definitely is racist. Thinking the majority of Haitians eat pets is racist.
Literally nobody thinks most Haitians do this. Not sure why libtards are always strawmanning
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@RemyBrown
I know more about these people than him so I will fill you in.
RM
Spaz with an IQ of about 160 but a spaz none the less
HistoryBluff
Midwit
Underdog
Intelligent Chad
SirAnonymous
Awesome guy. Very insightful
Adreamofliberty
Animal lover
JoeBob
Great kid with a bright future
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@RemyBrown
"you won't change your mind because Trump could do a rally in a KKK uniform and you would still vote for him" card and they can't deny it. I'm going to have to play that card a lot.
Yeah I have seen that from you, however you still voted for Biden who eulagized a Robert Byrd an actual KKK member and you plan to vote for Kamala Harris who was endorsed by Richard Spencer
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@RemyBrown
Whites tend to have higher IQs than blacks, but they also tend to get more education funding. This mathematical model I made outlines how when adjusted for education spending, there is very little difference between race and IQ (correlation abs(r) <.05)
Educational spending is not related to IQ LOL.
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@RemyBrown
I don't use Chat GPT to make arguments. It's just liberals are smarter than conservatives; it's why they are more likely to have college degrees.
I have a thread on midwits up. Please read and respond to it.
Liberals trust science
Cool, now tell me about how bad GMOs are.
Facts aren't offensive
I guess you haven't looked at racial crime and IQ statistics lately
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@Moozer325
We get it you are miracle on 34th street. Who cares. I buy your claim anyway
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It's official the october surprise has just dropped. Tim Walz has been confirmed to be a pedophile. I am not making judgements just starting the discussion thread so people can discuss.
https://x.com/DocNetyoutube/status/1845607885125882231
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@Moozer325
No don't worry about it also I didn't vote you I voted earth. Let me try again
unvote avTL eartg
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@Cerulean
What do you mean by this? You don't think Casey would include that as a "Classic" movie?
Casey is an atheist so I just assume anything christain is scummy
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Supported the Bi-partisan border bill and further border action in the future (26:47)
Literally tried to imprison governors for securing their borders
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11. Supports the removal of Obamacare, (does not have a replacement however) (1:27:35)
Actually the plan that was shot down in 2016 was intended to be obamacare but simply with the most hated parts removed. It's literally the same plan and Democrats were freaking out about it
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@Moozer325
Still going through your list and saw the following
2. $50,000 tax deduction to Start up small business (4:13) (1:25:23)
She described this almost like a loan, so it doesn't appear she knows what the fuck she is talking about here
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@Moozer325
It’s better to judge based on policy, not how she wins over dumb voters.
She literally ducks policy questions though. I understand she is trying to move to the middle, she almost sounds like a republican when it comes to border control.
However she does hint at price controls which is a scary thought. Honestly it is hard to figure out what her policies would be and the ones she comes up with seems like they are only meant to pull steam from Trump. Trump says no taxes on tips, she says it etc.
I couldn't tell you her policies at all. You are right that it shouldn't be about personalities though. Agree with you 100% there.
Even when it comes to the stuff going on in the middle east, debatable the only thing that matters for the president foreign policy she is so busy simultaneously not trying to piss off her Jewish donors while also not pissing off the pro Palestine left that she hasn't given any clear cut views on foreign policy for the most part.
I struggle to know what she is about and I follow politics more closely than the average American. She has a messaging issue.
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@Reece101
Don’t worry, actual liberals aren’t that violent when it comes to free speech.
You should Google bike lock guy
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@Sidewalker
Here it is. Some retard posted this thread claiming weather modification doesn't occur
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11848-the-government-controls-the-weather
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@Sidewalker
You said liberals but what you meant was MAGA.
There is literally another thread up right now of some libtard mocking the ideal that weather modification exists and that governments prefer to avoid high casualty rates by direction big events to lower population centers
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@Sidewalker
You get all that from I typed the word liberal when I meant the word liberal?
Yes, because by your definition I am a liberal but I have no desire for open borders making gay kids cut their dicks off or dropping voter ID.
Sir if you called me a liberal to my face I would fuck you up
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@Sidewalker
We began cloud seeding in 1946.
You went from claiming weather manipulation is impossible and mocked it as a conspiracy theory to admitting it is true and started much earlier than I thought. You are coming around and I appreciate it
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@FLRW
Trump says he only loves people that vote for him
Citation?
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I guess liberals are now saying that weather modification is not possible they are currently claiming that it is impossible but it has actually happened during the Vietnam War. Beyond that we know that technology has gotten better since WW2.
We also have those some people claiming that the United States would never try diverting disasters away from huge population centers to more rural areas to preserve lives. This is also untrue. During the cold War the United States put nuclear war heads in rural areas because they would be the first targets in a nuclear war and because it would save lives.
So this whole assertion that there is a conspiracy and the government would never modify weather is absurd, it's almost as bad as the cynicism of the left saying that the government is so evil they would never ever divert disasters away from large population centers
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@Sidewalker
Sometime a word is just a word, it isn't a dog whistle, it isn't even part of a conspiracy, over here in the real world, words have a meaning, maybe if you get a dictionary that will help you understand
The guy who says that Trump is dog whistling that he wants to genocide people because he mentioned increasing border security thinks dog whistles don't happen. Okay
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@Sidewalker
Would you like to do a live debate on whether cloud seeding exists or not since you said LOL after I mentioned it?
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@Best.Korea
How? We are not Trump voters.
Op said weather modification doesn't exist despite the fact we have been cloud seeding since the 1970s
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@Sidewalker
With that out of the way. This is called moving the goalposts. What you meant originally is that Jesus was a Democrat and you conflated the term liberal with Democrat, so I went with your definition. Now that you are embarrassed you are being pedantic and claiming you meant the original meaning of the word.
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@Sidewalker
You guys are retarded
You forgot to mention that there is a cover up,and fake news,
So I guess your claim is that all media outlets are honest 100% of the time if you are mocking the ideal somebody may be skeptical of a news story.
and a witch hunt,
I guess your belief is that normal panics have never and will never happen if you are mocking the ideal of witch hunts. I guess this could refer specifically to the trials thay Trump faced, but if so then is your claim that the law is never used for political vendetta? So by that same logic than I guess Mccarthiesm never happened. Great logic here.
and the deep state.
The deepest ate refers to unelected officials who survive from administration to administration. So I guess your logic here is that people like Henry Kissinger never existed.
You sound like a retard
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@Sidewalker
Jesus was a liberal.
This is false. People often say this because he calls for helping the poor. Republicans on average give more of their money to help the poor than liberals. The liberals however do push for shortsighted policies that harm the poor though. For example flooding immigrants into the country to compete with poor people for jobs and stretched resources
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The article states that Donald trump created misinformation that meteorologist cause hurricanes but doesn't provide a source BTW
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