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@Best.Korea
Are you really comparing circumcision which benefits a kid more than harms them to force feeding gay boys hormones and removing their penis?
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@Best.Korea
B
eing a republican is no guarantee that you will always give birth to republican offspring.
yes also avoiding the smoking of cigarettes is no guarantee that you won't get cancer. This is very insightful and you are certainly not a retard for pointing out statistical outliers exist.
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@Best.Korea
Just because republican gives birth to an offspring doesnt mean that his offspring will be republican. Most of the youth and most of smart people are democrat.
This is incorrect in general. Most people who grow up in Republican households and value things like border security and the right to self defense will still support those things as adults
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@Best.Korea
But yes, people with lower IQ are more likely to reproduce more, but sadly for the low IQ republican, creating offspring does not guarantee that such offspring will be republican.
so people in the 140 IQ plus range are reproducing less than those in the 120 IQ range and those with a fast life strategy in the below 100 IQ range are reproducing less because of better birth control methods and access to abortions,
if most republicans or the ones reproducing in the 120-130 range are reproducing a lot and they are and
democrats who are at both the high and low end of the bell curve are reproducing less than moderately high IQ republicans are going to reproduce more and have more control over institutions.
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Was your opponent in the 5th or 6th grade?
I am not sure it matters. If truth was on their side I would lose
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@Greyparrot
The determinant on whether longtermism is adopted or not is completely dependent on the variable of the legacy of physical progeny. This is why anti-gibbers are so against the rule of beta boy incels and cat ladies.
correct, they are essentially hedonists who don't care about future generations and are making the same mistake the boomer generation did
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You argue for careless pollution, trash capitalism, mindless consumerism,
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Trump and Christian religion which reduces IQ of its followers.
It doesn't and a thorough understanding of RK selection shows why high IQ liberals are not reproducing while moderate to high IQ conservatives are reproducing at large levels.
Maybe you think those things help future generations, but they dont.
Yes not replicating what North Korea does actually does help people
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Define often. I’ve been here for a while and you just started this today
once a year
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quote from article
But society tends to neglect the future in favor of the present. Future people are utterly disenfranchised. They can’t vote or lobby or run for public office, so politicians have scant incentive to think about them. They can’t tweet, or write articles, or march in the streets. They are the true silent majority. And though we can’t give political power to future people, we can at least give them fair consideration. We can renounce the tyranny of the present over the future and act as trustees for all of humanity, helping to create a flourishing world for the generations to come.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
actually, below average
SO there you go, there is definitely no excuse now
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@Best.Korea
Even if you proved to be smarter than me, democrats would still be smarter than republicans.
I am your average republican and you are the average democrat. It seems fair
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So I will often challenge people on the long-term effects of policy on future generations and people have begun to notice. There is a train of thought that policy-making should focus on short-term impacts and that future generations can go fuck themselves.
I don't usually talk about things like long-termism because it's pretty niche and it's one of those ideals that has origins in the lesswrong community. I no longer associate with the community and closely related ones like effective altruism, but their ideals have been very influential on my thinking and approach. Now that we have some famous cults forming from branch off organizations and Sam Bankman Fried being associated with it, I just don't mention or engage with the less wrong community. I also have philosophical differences of belief with them, due to them being retards who actually care about avoiding cognito hazards and encourage a conservative approach to technological advancement.
Anyway, longtermism is popular in these communities and I mention them so you know where to look to engage with thinkers who promote the ideology and to learn more about the ideology itself.
essentially most of us would agree that a trolley heading towards 5 people and we have the option to throw a fat guy over a bridge to stop the trolley from killing the 5 people, we would agree that is a good thing.
Well there is more future people on the planet than current people. We have like what? 7 billion, well there are trillions of future people and when making a policy position it is more ethical to make a decision that positively effects those 10 trillion people than to in the short term care about the effects on a mere 7 billion or so.
Peter Thiel I believe understands longtermism and so does JD Vance as an associate of Theil's which is why you will occasionally see him slip and talk about how those with children will normally support better policies, all else being equal. This belief comes from the belief that we should be willing to make some sacrifices in this generation if it makes the lives of trillions of future people better.
This philosophy is objectively correct unless you are a piece of shit who answers the trolley problem wrong. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/opinion/the-case-for-longtermism.html
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@Best.Korea
We can agree to an IQ test. 5 minutes before the IQ test whiteflame sends us a link to ensure we can't game the system we also livestream taking the test. Whoever scores less though has to commit suicide. You are very confident liberals are smarter so this will not be an issue and it seems like a fair set up. I don't think you are even smart enough to get in Mensa so perhaps we have 2 weeks from today to document we are in Mensa and whoever can't prove Mensa membership has to commit suicide.
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@Best.Korea
I guess that makes Trump objectively disproven because he loses popular vote every time. Its embarrassing.
Appeal to populism, it was mostly judge selection debates and I picked competent non biased judges. I get it though. You like North Korea and want America to have economic interventionism like North Korea
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@IwantRooseveltagain
he approved it but apparently the democrats did not agree to fund it or something. The government literally prints money so not sure why it takes any thought on how to fund it.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You studied philosophy, not economic policy or philosophy.
correct but I won 5 different debates against Keynesians on DDO, so they have been objectively disproven
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Do you think the Republican Party led by Trump is focused on eradicating poverty?He cut taxes for wealthy people. He did not try to raise the minimum wage. Republicans declined to expand eligibility for Medicaid. They never tried to pass an infrastructure bill the way Biden did.
He passed an infrastructure bill and I urge you to read the reccomended books on Mises.org to explain why those economic interventionists policies move us away from not towards utopia, as for your statement that we should have a large amount of unemployment, that is retarded. If people want to work and can find jobs, that is a good thing. It is not better for them to starve and die like you think
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@Best.Korea
Well, I understand that blatant lies are part of propaganda campaign, because uneducated voters dont know that food is free in USA.
I would rather eradicate poverty but if you are happy with the poor getting free expired food that kills them from food banks, good for you
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@IwantRooseveltagain
So we should create economic policy based on philosophical principles? That’s beautiful
You know that keynesian economic theory is a type of philosophy correct?
Are you just not able to grasp complex philosophies? Is it more important to you that we remain pragmatic and cut off the dicks of 8 year olds, have open borders and ban guns?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oh I see. And they could be a lot worse. Right?
Yes, we should aim for better though. Actually we should aim for perfect since perfect policies can be objectively determined if one has studied philosophy for several years
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@IwantRooseveltagain
An unemployment rate below 4% would indicate there is a labor shortage.
If 4% of people starving and dying in the streets is not high enough for you, what amount of people should be starving and dying? What would be a number that is good for the economy?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Considering the United States has the largest economy in the world with a GDP of over 20 trillion, it’s obvious things have worked out pretty well.
We have already covered this. Things could be a lot better. Things are also terrible now. Go to any large blue city. We have tent cities, drug dens, and gang violence, meanwhile, red cities like Jupiter island Florida, or the 500 various mayberry-like cities in the country are virtual utopias.
For example prior to the great depression, health care was affordable but Roosevelt created wage caps which caused employers to offer insurance. Insurance insulated people from the prices and it allowed medical providers to guage people in a hidden way. It was also common at the time for doctors to take on 10-20 percent of patients pro bono but Roosevelt was the end of that. Basically prior to economic interventionism and industrialization, almost every single person in America was a small business owner with freedom.
So yes you definitely want to ensure that there is no unexpected events 100 years down the road. You want to avoid any possibility of anything negative as a result of the policy. I think it was Keynes who said that it is useless to focus on the short term unknown effects of policies when the long term effects had the potential to cause a disastrous chain reaction or butterfly effect.
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A miller and a PGO and at least 2 town visiting roles if that is to be trusted and a vig
so lets say PGO is vigged and copped and a mislynch DP1
that's 3 vs 2 dp2
Plus a NK
2 vs 2
The game could end NP1 for either side tbh
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@Greyparrot
SO he agrees with Robert Reich. I assumed this was the case, not that it matters because IWRA worships both economists and does not ever question or deviate from what they say
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You’re no longer a Democrat because you have status anxiety. Women and minorities are doing better than you and you blame government.
No, it's because I have seen what happens with economic interventionism as indicated by those on the lower end of the economic freedom index. I am not sure why destroying meritocracy and creating economic interventionism like Venezuela and North Korea have done is a good thing.
Biden saw this and used it as an opportunity to create more microchip manufacturing in the United States using incentives.The result was an end to the microchip shortage and thousands of new good paying jobs in red states.
We have no idea what the 100-year effects of such policies will be, but we know the 100-year effects of economic interventionist policies from 100 years ago and can see a lot of the negative consequences today. I wouldn't doubt there
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@IwantRooseveltagain
It doesn't take long for things to go to shit once you start trying to destroy them
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Simple. If employers want more workers, they should pay them more.
Jerome Powell and his colleague at the Fed don’t want to hear this. They’re aiming to deal with the “labor shortage” by slowing the economy so much that employers can find all the workers they need without raising wages.
Even with inflation slowing, central bankers still believe they need to slow the job market and tamp down wage gains. “The biggest cost, by far, in [the service] sector is labor,” said Powell at his latest news conference in December. “And we do see a very, very strong labor market … where wages are very high.”
But slowing the economy will prevent millions of people from getting raises and cause millions more to lose their jobs – disproportionately low-wage workers, women and people of color.
Robert Reich is incontrovertibly and provably correct.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Here is one from the other economist you worship. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/15/there-is-no-us-labor-shortage-thats-a-myth
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@ADreamOfLiberty
All of what you said is factually accurate and why I am no longer a Democrat
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@HistoryBuff
he was president. He had the authority to declassify literally any document he wanted (except nuclear secrets). If he had documents to prove the election wasn't fair, he could have produced them both to the american people and in the many court cases he launched. the fact that he didn't proves they don't exist.
even though it harmed his reputation he still kept it classified for national security reasons. Pretty heroic
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Biden had a policy that led to capping the cost of insulin at $35 dollars a month.
Venezuela tried price caps on goods with disasterous results. It is a bad thing and with Kamala posting ads saying she would force grocers to lower prices, we are not headed down a good path
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For example, Biden had a policy aimed to increase microchip production in this country that led to thousands of new jobs.
We had a microchip shortage just after Biden took office. So thanks I guess
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@ILikePie5
if her theory is correct students vs staff it makes Barney scum
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@ILikePie5
I think this actually a scum slip. How did Casey know Jock would be in the game before it started? Moozer made no mention of what the theme would be besides middle school. How does that translate into student stereotypes and further into Jock. Am I missing something?
I was concerned about her pointing out that PGO was in 2 other games that moozer created and so it almost felt like she immediately knew that and so I was wondering if she set up catholic with a claim in the scum PM, but I also remembered she is terrible as scum and I would have picked up on that by now
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@AustinL0926
My role is literally an NP1 Innocent Child if I don't get roleblocked. Not going to claim further but I think I've softed my role very very clearly
fine
unvote
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For those of you that don't know. If you follow the history of the world, those who control energy the best end up being super powers. It is the United States foreign policy to minimize internal oil and coal production, because we have large amounts of oil and coal. The most coal on the planet and oil that rivals what OPEC nations have. The United States strategy is to exhaust the resources of other countries to become the country most others rely on for energy. If the United States increases internal oil production, because they are bad at controlling OPEC the way Trump and Obama controlled OPEC to keep gas prices low, than the foreign policy to control most of the Earth's resources is failing. It is a terrible thing if you drive prices so high that you are forced to increase local production. 1973 is when the strategy to exhaust foreign oil supplies, particularly in the middle east began. https://www.cfr.org/timeline/oil-dependence-and-us-foreign-policy
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When I cited articles by Krugman arguing there was no labor shortage, you called Krugman an idiot
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Okay so Austin and whiteflame are the scum team. cool
UNVOTE VTL AUSTIN
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@FLRW
No, we learned from the media that voter fraud by liberals is literally impossible. It is the conservative bug brain that likes to cheat.
All the laws making it easier to cheat are definitely not something cheaters would do
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Now casey is coming across as scummy because how can you think it is sus to avoid chat GPT's faggotry
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I asked it to paraphrase in the style of a sassy black woman
Listen up, y’all! I’m the Quiet Kid, always chillin’ in the back of the class, mindin’ my own business. But let’s not get it twisted, honey! I’m no school shooter, just someone who’s been through the internet meme mill. They say I’m a 1x Vigilante 'cause I got one shot to set things right. I’m here to clean up this mess and win with the Town. So let’s keep it real, and don’t sleep on me!"
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@Casey_Risk
Wylted not using ChatGPT to paraphrase is also sus.
Is it?
If I ask chat GPT about racial crime statistics it ignores my question and gives me a lecture about how it is racist to notice things. Here let me use gpt to paraphrase and see if it lectures me
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justification
Hey quiet kid, I know you usually just sit in the class, staring.... saying nothing.......just letting your thoughts go where they take you.....recently people have been picking on you..........sending you quiet kids memes............. calling you school shooter..................and well, maybe they are unto something.............Maybe you should throw on the trench coat and become a natural born killer............... Go ahead get your Dylan Kliebold on, you are 1x vigiilante, go kill one of those niggas who fuck with you............they about to find out
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No, this article is about record domestic oil production
correct, when domestic oil production is up it is because America failed to threaten OPEC nations into giving us cheaper oil.
That’s a lie
It is literally retarded to think somebody would not change behavior if them not changing behavior results in their death. There is a reason nuclear engineers in IRAN who don't die are always begging the United states for asylum. Killing people works.
Gas prices were low under Trump because we had 16% unemployment
Covid numbers, now everyone is employed but they cannot afford, food rent or gas.
so congrats in fucking up the economy instead of making it great again
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@ILikePie5
Lol you’re going to lynch me for asking for a justification?
I don't like it. I shouldn't have had to reveal any information after volunteering my character and people should have went along with me. I'm obvious town. I have the scum pool to 3 people it's time to lynch one and I vig another and we end the game. I encourage the next person to get their signups going because unless town is retarded, people will do what I say and since scum is narrowed to 3 people we will win by dp2 at latest. The exception is if people do not play along and lynch joebob and then I just vig them for not doing what I say.
We kill joebob. I vig between austin and whiteflame and we lynch whoever remains alive the next DP. Game solved
didn’t actually grow up that way. Maybe that’s how they treated white people in the hood, but I was chillin. Nobody wanted to mess with me
I heard it more from white people as well but yes everyone said it and it was funny but not an insult. It also seemed to reflect their actual beliefs as they proceeded cautiously.
maybe I will paraphrase on my own instead of using chat GPT, maybe I will ignore you. Not sure yet.
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We learned from the liberal media that voter fraud is literally impossible
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yes imports cost more, which is why gas prices are up. Literaly threaten to nuke OPEC nations so they drop prices and we don't have to exhaust our own supply but know liberals are pussies, and trannies and blue-haired feminists so they have to just bow to OPEC and gas prices are higher than they were under Trump as a result
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So we are to believe Pie a quiet kid didn't immediately jump to school shooter in his mind when being picked on about it his entire life. I know you are all INTP/J types and so you don't talk even to each other but we all had the same experiences, you are not unique and so how would PIE who lived the same life as you, not know about this https://media.makeameme.org/created/the-quiet-kid-21945925a9.jpg
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Last one, anyone claiming to be an introvert here. Tell me how hard it is to go a week without somebody emailing you this or mentioning it to you https://i.imgflip.com/54xl8m.jpg
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