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Scum Hunting guide
Textual analysis part 1
Detecting scum through unconscious behavioral patterns
Some people are confused about textual analysis in the current game I am playing and have a hard time realizing that I caught scum by a very obvious slip, but these things do occur, and it seems shocking to the lack of ability to behaviorally scum hunt on the site. Below the theory of scum hunting and application of scum hunting follow.
Unconscious thoughts, Dictate conscious behavior
The first theory of behavioral analysis is that unconscious thoughts, dictate conscious actions. I read of an artificial intelligence being able to discover written lies, based on this theory. https://qz.com/1441034/using-artificial-intelligence-to-detect-written-lies/
The story above shows that AI was able to detect written lies of people trying to commit insurance fraud by reporting fake robberies, based on conscious behaviors dictating by both conscious and unconscious objectives
“VeriPol works by using algorithms to identify the various features in a statement, including all adjectives, verbs, and punctuation marks, and then picking up on the patterns in false reports. According to a Cardiff University statement, false robbery reports are more likely to be shorter, focused on the stolen property rather than the robbery itself, have few details about the attacker or the robbery, and lack witnesses.”
In the following game on Dart, we could have an AI read through the dp to find scum, and the entire scum team would be discovered. I am human and lack the raw intelligence of AI, so I can unfortunately only detect one scum as of this writing, which takes place during the game. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6714-comedians-mafia-dp1?page=4
If we can look at behavioral tells effectively, we can almost appear to be staring into a person’s soul. It is unnerving to scum. By following this living guide, you will be able to soul stare.
Self conscious behavior of scum
When looking at what conscious behavior can mean about hidden and unconscious thought patterns, we merely need to look for motive. If we have the history of a certain player, we can rule out any odd unguessable motives for the most part, but generally speaking, as humans are pretty similar and share similar motivations in similar situations.
One behavior is self conscious behavior. Scum are more self conscious, especially new scum because they fear they can be seen through. They see their scum partner play and mistakenly think all his moves are transparent because they have inside knowledge and that is how bias works.
Self conscious behavior manifests itself in many ways in scum, and as I expand this guide out, they will all become listed, but for now….. We will stick with one manifestation
- Sentence structure
Generally speaking as scum, particularly the type of player who likes to hide themselves as opposed to the type who tries to direct the DP, you will be more self conscious of your words, and often report to over explanation.
For example, instead of saying “I am town”, you will say maybe “I am town, because my pm said so”. So it is a self consciousness, but now one that is necessarily more careful with words. It is an over explanation, but not the type of over explanation that just gets into more details, like some do. I call it the fresh prince principle, because it is often how the fresh prince lied in the show Fresh Prince of Belair. See video https://youtu.be/c8IeVAKad8g
So if I am a game and say somebody displayed this scum tell, it does not mean I am saying they are being too wordy, or over explaining or fluffing. It is a type of fluffing, but not like what most people think of when they say fluffing. Will smith in the above video was too wordy, but it was not rambling or over explanatory .
The motive in the game I am playing now is not as directly motivated as what you see in the will smith video, so it is less obvious. However it is motivated sub consciously.
Case Study
If I can get any help with explaining this concept it would be nice, but I will share some examples from my current game, as well as one where poly was confirmed scum and one where he was confirmed town. In my current game, we can see the will smith principle in play with the following post.
“I’m not going to sus drlebronski at the moment. Just knowing his meta, he does tend to claim without thinking. What surprises me is that he didn’t bother claiming his character also. Cause he usually he would full claim like what he did in the Pokémon mafia.”
Where will smith says “never met you before in life” . restating the same thing twice, we see poly do the same self conscious behavior. He susses drlebronsky and then adds in the moment. Obviously it is in the moment, why would we assume he was talking about another moment?
Next sentence he says, just knowing his meta, he does tend to claim without thinking. He basically double states his point. His meta being the point and the rewording of it as “He tends to do”. Next he stretches out his doubling of the same point to 2 sentences, those are a little more abstract, but the concept holds. What surprises poly is that drlebronsky did not character claim, then he follows it up by saying “because he would usually full claim” .. Well, yes poly. We know that he normally does something different, because otherwise why would it surprise you?
Even without looking at the game where poly is scum and the one he is town preceding it, I know it is scummy behavior. However it does help to back test my theory, by looking at previous games, so I did precisely that.
In fire emblem mafia, poly is scum and we will be looking at only his dp1 posts, because some may try to claim behavior can be different based on the particular DP. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6613-fire-emblem-mafia-day-phase-1
In fast food mafia, poly was town and we will also be looking at dp1, here is the link if you want to keep up. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6535-fast-food-mafia-dp1
First, we will look at the town game, because if poly does this fresh prince routine as town, we can dismiss my theory out of hand.
Post 13 “I agree here. There’s not much justification which ties my character with my role.”
Straight to the point, no doubling up on what he says or unnecessary over explanation.
Post 49 “Supa said that all the wincons are the same.”
It’s the same thing. A non fluff post, that is immediately to the point. I wonder if a pattern is starting to develop.
Post 233 “Hey guys I’m Dominoes Pizza”
Post 234 “Been pretty busy the last day. Reading up now”
Nothing to say. The directness and conciseness, speaks for itself.
His post 247, is merely a vote
Post 249 “All I ever said is that character roles seems to have little justification to actual roles”
Besides being concise, the above posts, which are every dp1 post from his town games, use active as opposed to passive voice.
Now for the scum posts. Let’s see if he does what I suspect he will do as scum, which is the fresh prince, scum technique.
Let’s analyze his first scum post
Post 23 “I have to do a little research. I actually don't know anything about this theme. “
We are already starting. He has to do research, because he doesn’t know about the theme, specifying that was the classic fresh prince move. Obviously you don’t need to research themes you are an expert in.
Post 30 “Yeah I assumed there to be only one scum also. The game would be too fast and really unbalanced if there were two.”
We saw how concise he was as town, so why does he randomly stretch out the sentence by double saying the same thing. Sentence one. He assumed one scum (He also stretches that sentence), then he says two scum would be unbalanced. Like if you say you think there is one scum, it means you would definitely believe that one scum is more balanced. Saying 2 was unbalanced, was just a way of restating sentence one.
Other forms of the same type of analysis are, using better grammar than normal, refraining from conjunctions such as I am instead of I’m and explaining reasoning that is obvious.
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@ILikePie5
read the doc, I just posted and circle the wagons. I will past a summary for those who are too lazy to click the doc in my next post
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@whiteflame
The doc needs work, but since we are in game, I won't alter it until the game is over
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@whiteflame
I am almost done writing it up. I can take a horse to water, but cannot make them drink it. Poly is definitely scum. It isn't tunneling if I actually caught scum.
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@whiteflame
I am not explaining myself well. You are taking what I mean literally when it is a more abstract concept. I am reading his town and scum game. He displays what I am talking about in the scum game and it is missing in the town game.
Poly is scum here. It aucks that I am struggling to find the words, but I have a word document open and am trying to make the words display the concept correctly.
Yes I caught scum with a single post on page 2. It happens, it sucks for the scum team, but poly is scum and I will get this written out the best I can before I sleep
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@ethang5
I saw the migration from blue states and was hoping it was just fellow conservatives, but yes typical of liberals to destroy their states with liberal voting habits and then come here and take the policies that destroyed the state they ran from and try to implement them here
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@whiteflame
Why does no other explanation fit?
I have a hard time seeing the logic behind being self conscious for other reasons. Logically it makes sense to be self conscious as scum, but the other explanations seem like illogical reasons to become self conscious
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White flame is never this short with people. I would normally chalk this up to all my anti Jewish shit posting, but he is behaving that way towards others as well.
Is this personal life shit or some sort of new strategy
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@whiteflame
the type of wordings betrays self conscious behavior. Town does not need to be self conscious because they can behave as open books.
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Verbosely is fine. This is a distinct style of writing that indicates self consciousness.
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@whiteflame
Even if he’s scum, dude, Poly has nothing to worry about from this wagon you’ve formed. You’re not justifying it in any way that’s actually going to recruit enough people to get a lynch off, you’re refusing to provide more than the most perfunctory of reasoning, and you’re not responding to anyone who is asking you to explain yourself. So, screw it.
Acyually I explained enough, but I will give a detailed explanation when the bitch is asleep.
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@drlebronski
liberalism is very distinct from leftism kneeling to BLM is not leftist though a lot of BLM protestors are leftist.also 93% of blm protest were peaceful.
Not the ones I saw. You literally had reporters standing in front of burning buildings with people rioting behind them and saying the tag line "mostly peaceful" protest.
Or are you claiming the 93% of non violent people at them who knowingly showed up giving rioters easy cover, are somehow peaceful because they only showed up to give cover?
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@drlebronski
joe biden is most certainly not a "leftist" he's a liberal conservatives like you think thatliberal=communismliberal=leftismliberal=socialism
Liberalism used to be distinct from leftist, but seeing how they were cheering on the BLM riots and excusing the violence, instead of saying things like "hey guys, maybe we don't do violent things, and maybe we don't completely eliminate paying police officers", they kneeled to BLM.
We also know about how the slippery slope will lead liberals to totalitarian socialism, as it always does.
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@949havoc
Does he forget that just two weeks ago - Aug 16 - DOS told Americans in Afghanistan wanting to get out to "shelter in place,"
My initial thoughts were that the stupid asses who stayed there despite knowing that american withdrawal was imminent, were knowingly putting themselves in harms way and reaped what they sowed, but if the above statement is true, than this withdrawal was extremely fucked up. I still wouldn't blame biden. He has dementia. I am sure non dementia biden would have made better decisions
Not his fault the people close to him, were willing g to commit elder abuse, so they could sit in the halls of power and help rule over america.
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@drlebronski
California and Louisiana are my picks. I rather like it here in Florida
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Right now poly is thinking "how the fuck did wylted soul read me"
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@Vader
I meant you were full of shit about me having a hard on for poly. I basically ignore poly most games
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@Polyglot
it is simple. You are confirmed scum. Name your partner and I will not lynch you.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I wish for a dollar.
You get a dollar, but now you are a filthy jew who gives a fuck about a mere dollar.
I wish for everyone with a 2 digit IQ to be executed, voluntarily
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Town sucks. I will explain in detail how to scum hunt behaviorally later. You guys try to catch scum with bad claim, results etc. And it's why you all suck.
We should be able to catch scum through very tiny almost imperceptible slips. Because that is the type of slips scum make.
I didn't say lack of concise wording is a scum tell. I was saying being too wordy is, especially with somebody like poly. There is no word to describe the behavior, but poly scum slipped. He is 100% scum and we should be lynching jim this dp
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@whiteflame
classic scum tell. As scum you are more self conscious, so you'll do things like be less concise. Particularly stretching out your sentences and it looks precisely like what you see above. Poly is scum. Now that poly knows I can basically soul read people in this game, when I am on, she'll be overthinking what she writes and you may see the opposite start to happen, instead of typing naturally.
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@SkepticalOne
Of course. The Orange Manchild could do no wrong...Biden can do nothing right - or so the narrative goes.If Trump were in office, Parrot would be defending this because, for him (or so it seems), his objections are purely political.
I lot of Trump's base is made up of paleo conservatives who are very anti war. I think these sorts of pale co serve t Ives, usually do now vote, but he managed to do well getting them to the vote g booth
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let me show you what poly would have written that as town, and compare it to what he just wrote as scum.
I don't sus drlebronski. His meta is to claim without thinking. It surprises me that he didn’t claim his character, like he did in Pokémon mafia.
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@ILikePie5
Good catch. I townread you for this
big mistake. Poly is 100 scum. Mega scum slip, in the post you are town reading him for
VtL poly
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@drlebronski
just gonna role claim now since i basically dont have a roleim vanilla town member and can only contribute with my voice and vote
Way to help narrow down the power roles for scum
Thanks
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@Lunatic
lol, was thinking the same thing. I didn't think appropriate to comment though. Also one player made and deleted a post, I have screenshots to prove it. So a bit of a shitshow lol
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@ILikePie5
"Imagine Chuck’s"
She is actually related to him. Not a lot of people know that. It's probably why she got a free pass into Hollywood, despite the obvious lack of talent. Sure is nice having powerful relatives.
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you know she caught too much shit for that movie where she was basically a reverse shallow Hal. It really wasn't bad and had a positive message about self esteem.
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@Greyparrot
when Amy Schumer told her family she would be a comedian someday, they laughed at her.
Nobody is laughing now.
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@TheUnderdog
Would you ban a pro lifer for hate speech? What about someone that opposes BLM? Is that now hate speech towards black people? Is misgendering based on the belief that there are more than 2 genders now hate speech towards transgenders? Is believing that marriage is between a man and a woman now hate speech towards gays?
Stop with this shit. You are literally letting liberals co trol your worldview and you are a conservative within their framework.
It's one thing to appeal to their biases in debate, but your world view is literally just what fits within the framework they created for you
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I don't like you but I can relate to this
Pretty fucked up.
I don't like you either, but I can relate.
Fucked up also.
You guys need to get a life if you have strong feelings towards anyone on this site.
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@Lunatic
I wish to stop getting killed np1 in every mafia game
Granted, but now you are scum every game.
I wish the holocaust actually happened.
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Hell. I actually voted Obama. He felt anti establishment
His war on whistle blowers, shows he was evil though
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@oromagi
- I would have voted Andrew yang if he won the democratic nomination.
- I know most comedians are liberal. They get laughs by saying things that mostly co serrations agree with like when they bash woke culture.
- Amy Schumer just like Carlos Mencia, are lame comedians who somehow manage to do well. This happens too often.
- Nobody is more co servative or anti establishment than me. Anyone that opposes corruption should be anti establishment
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@XLAV
Yep I was perma banned, because you know, the jews know I will expose them
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Seinfeld was the last funny sitcom. No funny ones existed after that
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@oromagi
Bill Maher was saying just last Friday that the reason the right wing can't do comedy is because liberals aren't funny but I don't think that's even close to true. I think liberals are just as silly and misinformed and hypocritical as the right.
I feel like only the right can do good stand-up now. When you get people like bill burr, Dave Chapelle and other big names they all seem to have a conservative POV on stage, even if they are liberals.
Meanwhile woke comedians are bombing. Amy Schumer for example is not even remotely funny. Which is wierd because she steals the routines of funny people, but she just can't perform those same routines well.
Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Jeff Dunham, the people who actually make you laugh, just spout shit on stage that appeals highly to conservatives.
The funniest liberal I like is Stephen colbert, but he doesn't really do stand up much.
George Carlin is probably the funniest comedian ever and he is pretty anti establishment which is more appealing to conservatives.
Norm Mcdonald is great and he clearly is conservative.
Sitcoms now. Sitcoms are all liberal and it's why they suck now days. Saturday night live has not been funny since Chris Farley was on it, because it is just liberal propaganda now. Face it. Conservatives are funnier.
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@TheUnderdog
watch it, but ignore the ignorant shit like them dismissing religion because of parallelism
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@TheUnderdog
- In reality, people see past this and realize that the economic security of not being $28 trillion in debt, the economic freedom of not having to pay for others, and social freedom of getting to go fast are all legitimate tradeoffs to saving as many lives as you can.
It's literally a debt based economy. Have you not watched zeitgeist
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Also did anyone see in the op I am confirmed town. Earth should be on me this np
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just lynch disc if this is wrong. Disc being trained by Giovanni is suspect, and my gut says he feels off
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@Polyglot
I know you are still on. What is the flip
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it's always worth looking at the reads of dead townies, since they are the only people you can trust 100% in this game. I remembered what lunatic said, but you fucks always forget me when I am playing well. That isn't this game, not playing well here, but other games you fucks have forgot my reads after I died, like dicks.
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@Lunatic
Oh damn, you are deep in the right wing hole. My dad used to be like that. Wouldn't watch a movie that had an actor who was liberal in it. I remember he hated Ben Affleck with a passion.
Hollywood is almost like 99% liberal. I would just have to avoid the TV, if I felt that way.
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