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The more I look into to Otto Warmbrier story, the more ridiculously obvious it is that he didn't actually break any north korea laws. What incentive did north korea have to stage a video of otto stealing a propaganda poster?


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Trump was considered a Russian puppet, but Russia is now going to expand under both Biden and Obama, while they wouldn't dare do the same with Bush or Trump. 

As much as I hate Neocons, at least Russia knows if they step out of line, they'll have drone strikes at Putins home. 

While pointing out that liberals are weak, Is a fun truism, in all seriousness. If Russia wants the Ukraine, it has zero affect on the United States and we shouldn't have Americans die to protect the Ukraine. 
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Dan Crenshaw yells at a 10 year old girl, for reading him his own quote, where he calls Jesus a fictional character. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ9dwh6b0iE

This is honestly your typical moderate, of any party.
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The gaying of society is the fault of capitalism entirely. We need a more socialist movement for right wing Americans. Some combination of nationalism and socialism to defeat the corporatocracy . Maybe even an a nationalist socialist American workers party. To understand the reason for the gaying of America, you need to understand two things.

1. Corporations want to increase profit as much as possible


Men are simple. I buy beer, work and pay bills. That's it. My wife spends the rest of my money. What happens if a corporation can gayify me though? I would automatically start spending more money, by buying anal bleach and dressing all gay.

But in reality, gay is a gateway drug to tranny. The real goal is to convince the homosexual to cut his penis off, so he can become a woman and start spending as much as women do.

If you are wondering why corporations are pushing the gayification of America, just look at how much the gay trannies spend.

You'd be wrong in assuming it's just corporations gaying up America. Who else wants America all gay up? The answer is Russia and China. Nobody is scared of an army of guys who cut their penises off. The russian and chinese armies when they face us, want to fight a bunch of effiminate lady boys as opposed to rugged men, such as myself. I can't blame them. I usually fair better against girls in fights as well.

If you do happen to be gay, don't despair. There is help out there for you. Don't let your country down. Don't be gay. https://christianlifemagazine.org/article/benefits-of-conversion-therapy/
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"How many FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events of Jan. 6?" Cruz asked.


Sanborn said in response that she could not discuss "the specifics of sources and methods" of the FBI.


Cruz then broadened his question by asking if any FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the riot.


"Sir, I can’t answer that," she said.


Cruz then asked if any agents or confidential informants committed crimes of violence on Jan. 6. When he received the same answer, he asked if any agents or confidential informants "actively encouraged" crimes of violence on Jan. 6.


"Sir, I can’t answer that."


Cruz then brought up Ray Epps, who was seen on video the day before the riot, telling a crowd, "Tomorrow, we need to get into the Capitol! Into the Capitol!" The crowd responded by shouting, "Fed! Fed! Fed!" at him.


Epps, later claimed that he was not encouraging wrongdoing.


"The only thing that meant is we would go in the doors like everyone else. It was totally, totally wrong the way they went in," he told the Arizona Republic.


"Miss Sanborn, was Ray Epps a fed?" Cruz asked.


"Sir, I cannot answer that question," Sanborn replied.

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3ru7al has the following platform

“My platform - any and all code-of-conduct enforcement should be uniform - regardless of the individual being considered and regardless of where they posted”



creating a uniform code of conduct is something airmax is familiar with doing and has done. He also has enough of a prior relationship with the mods to be able to influence them deeply to adopt a uniform policy he created. I am posting his code of conduct from debate.org below. If 3ru7al wants a uniform code of conduct, he should drop out and endorse the guy who not only has created one, but who has the ability to make that code of conduct a reality.

If 3ru7al is Going to stay in the race, I challenge him to create the uniform code he wants to see adopted. My guess is that not only will it pale in comparison to the one listed below, but that his uniform code of conduct will be less likely to be adopted than Airmax’s one, which I’m sure he is willing to update, to remove even more ambiguity, not that there is much of it.




Extended Code of Conduct for Debate.org (DDO)

1. Definitions

1.1 Terms of Use. The rules agreed to by members as a condition of membership, given at http://www.debate.org............. Sometimes referred to as terms of service [TOS].

1.2 Trolling. Use of inflammatory language, personal attacks, or extreme and unsupported claims aimed at provoking emotional response rather than debate.

1.3 Vote bombing. Abuse of DDO voting privileges by awarding points to a debater for reasons unrelated to the arguments or evidence presented in the debate.

1.4 Moderator. A person granted authority by the site owners to enforce the rule of the site.

2. Scope

2.1 If there is any conflict between this document and the Terms of Use, the Terms of Use takes precedence.

2.2 This document establishes trolling and vote bombing as offenses punishable by a Moderator or through trial.

2.3 This document establishes the procedures for holding trials of members in cases where violations of the rules as judged by a Moderator are for any reason unclear. Trials are at the sole discretion of a Moderator, and the provision of the Terms of Use whereby members may lose membership privileges is unchanged.

2.4 The Moderator retains the ability to remove a member or restrict privileges without benefit of a trial.

3. Warnings

3.1 The Moderator shall issue warnings to members upon observing patterns of their apparent trolling or vote bombing. The forum post, debate, or debate comment exhibiting the offense shall be cited in the warning. The member may choose to respond with a defense of the behavior.

3.2 The warning shall advise the member that repeating the offense may result in loss of membership privileges.

3.3 If an offense is repeated after the member has received a relevant warning, the member may be subjected to, at the option of the Moderator, revocation of membership privileges or subjecting the member to DDO trial.

4. Trials

4.1 The member shall be notified in advance of the trial.

4.2 The Moderator shall appoint a prosecution team.

4.3 The accused member may select a defense team or request that the Moderator solicit a defense team.

4.4 The Moderator shall establish accounts for prosecution and defense for the trial, which will be conducted as a DDO debate. The trial debate shall be four rounds of 8000 characters with a three day response period. The voting period shall be two weeks.

4.5 The Prosecution shall prepare charges and post the charges with links to supporting evidence as a challenge to the Defense. No new charges or evidence of offenses may be introduced after the challenge. The Prosecution may, however, post additional evidence in rebuttal to defense claims.

4.6 All members having voting privileges may vote on the trial debate.

4.6.1 At the option of the Moderator, the Moderator may appoint a jury prior to the start of the trial and announce that the verdict will be determined by the vote of the jurors alone. If a jury is appointed there shall be either three, five, or seven jurors. Each juror shall have participated in at least ten debates. The jury may consider the membership vote in making their decision, but are not bound by it.

4.6.2 The standard for voting for the Prosecution is that the charges have been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. A reasonable doubt is not any doubt, but rather the doubt that a reasonable person would have given the evidence of the trial.

4.6.3 Voters shall be instructed in the Prosecutors' R1 that they may vote up to all seven votes for the prosecution or the defense.

4.6.4 Voters finding the defendant guilty may use the RFD to recommend a suspension of privileges rather than permanent loss, and they shall be advised of this by the Prosecutors in R1.

4.6.5 The Moderator shall comply with the result of the trial. If a guilty verdict is found, the Moderator shall select the level of punishment.

4.6.6 The Moderator shall act as judge in ruling upon trial procedures.

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Personal Attacks Policy

TL;DR: Personal attacks serve no purpose and only harm what we are trying to foster on this site. They will no longer be tolerated. This policy will take place site wide--In debates, forums, polls, opinions, and everywhere else. Do not make personal attacks, or there will be consequences.

ON PERSONAL ATTACKS

This is a website of heated exchanges. Yet it should also be a place where all users can feel comfortable--a space where they can be free of personal attack. But on a website of such variety of ideology, and that's intended to foster debate, it's worth spending some time explaining what that means in our context.

Personal attacks have always been against the TOS. However, there has not been an extended discussion on what, exactly, is a personal attack for the purposes of the site. Recently, it has become apparent that that discussion is necessary.

The following is an explanation of the sorts of things that are not allowed on DDO, in order to keep this a place that fosters debate and discussion. Expect this to be followed moving forward. This policy will take place site wide, including in debates, forums, polls, and opinions. If you have made personal attacks, stop doing so. If you were thinking about making a personal attack, don't.

INTRODUCTION

A personal attack, in the context of this site, is not "anything directed at a person that they find to be unfavorable". Not only would such a definition be absurd, it would stifle exchange and debate. If someone is being dishonest, calling them out on it could be considered by the literalist to be a "personal attack". You are, after all, saying something negative about them, personally. But that's not what's intended by the policy.

The goal is to foster debate, and allow for even heated debate and exchange of ideas, without allowing abuse and unwarranted attack.

Instigation of a personal attack will, of course, face a harsher penalty than reciprocating against one. But understand that the latter is not off the hook.

The only appropriate responses to personal attack are: taking the high ground and replying to it without a personal attack, ignoring it, or reporting it.

Violations of this policy may or may not include a warning--and scale quickly from that, to a suspension, up to even a permanent ban. Airmax is the final arbiter of the policy.

A personal attack can take several different common forms. There is some overlap between them, but it may be helpful to specifically outline a few:

DIRECT ATTACK

This is where, outside the context of a discussion on the topic or of behavior in the course of that discussion, someone posts something negative about a specific member. Generalized complaints about generalized behaviors are not direct attacks. But, for example, a thread specifically calling out a member by name, and speaking negatively about them, is a direct attack. Attack threads will be deleted out of hand.

There is another kind of direct attack, as well. The kind of post where someone drops in to just say something like "You're all idiots". While not a direct personal attack against an individual, it's still a direct attack against the members on the thread.

There is a very slim exception to this rule, noted mostly for history's sake. It only applies to moderators. On occasion, a moderator may initiate a trial of a member. Only moderators can initiate this process. If you have a beef with a member being on this site, the appropriate place to bring it up is with a moderator. In the unlikely event something like a trial is necessary, they will make that determination.

Direct attacks are personal attacks. They are not tolerated.

(Ex.: A forum post saying "You're an idiot", or a debate with the resolution "User123 should be kicked off the sit




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This probably comes as no surprise to anyone that I am dropping out and endorsing max. I have some criticisms of him as well. 

The criticisms in the hammer's latest thread and pie's is not something that should be just dismissed and brushed under the rug. 

I do believe though that despite his flaws, we have the same platform essentially and that max will be better at accomplishing similar goals and in fact will be in the perfect position to set himself up to help the site beyond that.

I think what the people that oppose max are missing is the good side of a max presidency. The negatives are obvious to them, but they miss that the positives will dramatically overshadow the negatives. 

I ask those people to not just look at the negatives but weigh them against maxes positives
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I appreciate anybody reading this campaign update. It shows you care about the future of the site and want to stay up to date, even if you don’t happen to support me. This is going to cover a few things, feel free to skip around if you think a topic is not relevant to the election.


Why we need debate on a debate site

I found an article recently that stated the following

“our organization might prefer consensus and harmony.  In creative settings where the stakes are high, it is imperative to stimulate debate and criticism to improve the quality of ideas. Dissenting for the sake of dissenting is not useful, but when it is authentic, it stimulates thought. The secret to success is sincerity. Obligation to dissent is critical.  Everyone with a critical opinion should always speak up about it.  Dissenting opinions are useful even when they are wrong, as they clarify and embolden everyone’s thinking.” https://www.thnk.org/insights/building-a-culture-that-welcomes-dissent/

There is a lot of studies backing up that point as well, feel free to read through the article. Banning certain opinions shouldn’t be done. The only exceptions should be for legal reasons or for things that actually prevent free speech. Spamming would harm the free marketplace of ideals, as well as bullying and threats. Any promotion of illegal activity (not glorification) would also put the site in jeapordy as well as the free marketplace of ideals by extension.

We can see in this election how having a dissenting opinion is valuable. I can tell by reading through this thread. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7129-why-you-should-not-vote-for-rationalmadman

that RM’s platform has been altered by meeting the marketplace of ideals. It’s still got the same core arguments, but should I lose to him, I would feel proud that I had some part in helping him craft a better platform that will be better for the site.

Despite RM benefiting from the free marketplace of ideals, he still seems to snub it. That’s fine, the biggest enemy of free speech, has always been free speech. It’s legitimately easier to attack, because it welcomes attack.

The best evidence for free open speech and dissent being a good thing on this site, is how well RM’s platform has evolved because of it. Read the first few pages of this thread to see what the early version of his message looked like.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7106-a-witch-a-thang-a-yin-a-yang-a-rational-man-and-a-boomerang

the last few pages of this thread show what his message has improved to.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7129-why-you-should-not-vote-for-rationalmadman

Don’t get me wrong, I still think his platform is weaker than mine, which can be seen here. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7117-build-back-dart-better-campaign-announcement


The proper way to campaign for me

Message spamming people is against the rules on this site. However I want to explain what spam is and is not. RM has indicated he believes that any campaign related emails are spam. The mods can feel free to correct me, but I think he is handcuffing himself a little much in this respect.

If you have a relationship with somebody and routinely message them on the site, than it is not spam to send a message to your friend saying “I think RM is the best candidate and voting started today, please vote”.

The spam they don’t allow is just randomly sending messages to everyone in your in box who has ever messaged you, or really anyone you don’t have a prior warm relationship to. I have to be more careful than my supporters. I will probably only send reminders to people who have contacted me during this election cycle.

There is this instinct with some people to never go in that gray area, but the election by it’s nature is competitive, and if you aren’t playing all the way to the edge (ethically) than you are unfairly handcuffing yourself.

I would like to take this time to remind my more vocal supporters, not to attack RM personally. He’s pushed my buttons and I have done some things I am not proud of in response, but I for the most part have not got personal with him. I expect the same from you. If he pushes your buttons and you feel emotional, walk away. Count to 3. breathe. Then go make a thoughtful response or just none at all.

RM is a human being. He is deserving of love. More so than love, he is deserving of respect. He shouldn’t be abused, just because he cares enough about the site, that he has decided to run for president and be a lightning rod of criticism. That is a very brave thing for him to do, and he should be commended.

Oppose him, not by attacking him, but by talking to fence sitters about why his policies are bad or why he would be bad for the position. (Using only actions made during this campaign) . If you want to, make threads where you hyper focus on a single problem with his platform or even his temperament. Be careful with the latter though, as it can drift into a personal attack if you don’t guard yourself.

RM lacks Tempered Reason

Speaking of temperament. I want to point out, that by it’s nature the office of presidency is a very diplomatic position. In my campaign thread I mentioned why I would be better at diplomacy than an RM.

However, we have some recent examples of RM, lashing out with the very people who he needs to persuade once he is in office. The examples appear elsewhere but occur strongly in this thread. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7118-should-we-crack-down-on-members-of-the-religion-forum

His interactions with the head mod starts on page 2 and continues until page 3. It takes 5 minutes to read and you can all judge for yourself whether these are interactions that are likely to be persuasive to somebody who has the power to implement the changes you want to see.

RM knows that not only are members of the religion forum important to how this election turns out, but that the atheists are more likely to like my message, so his response is to lose his temper and try to make me look bad by pulling up old threads. One for an interfaith service for the religion forum and one that argued that the existence of God should be argued in the philosophy question.

Those threads can be found here

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6729-atheists-are-no-longer-welcome-here
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6730-announcing-the-sites-first-worship-service

The threads were obviously made to be tongue in cheek. I am never agnostic but do flip back and forth on whether I believe God is real or not, though recently my belief in him has strengthened, so maybe I am staying theistic.

Take a look back at RM’s campaign thread. I posted in the beginning before deciding to run, a few questions that could help him to ease my concern about what an RM presidency would look like, and that are probably circulating in the heads of fence sitters thinking of voting for him but weren’t entirely decided.

His responses were instead of calmly answering the questions and assuming best intent on my part, he immediately attacked me on a personal level. His responses deeply concerned me. I definitely thought after that, he would be a disaster for the site as president. Beyond that. There is just something about RM that makes me like the guy.

I know, it’s weird. Maybe it is because he has a unique way of looking at the world, maybe it is because I can tell that despite his flaws, he really does have a deep sense of empathy. Either way I can’t help but to like him, so him lashing out at me in the thread and saying he has no respect for me and could care less about my vote, to a certain extent hurt my feelings.

His emotional responses aren’t conducive to good leadership. Good leadership requires tempered reason, when a leader has only soft power on their side, it requires a lot of diplomacy which isn’t something that can be done, when you act without thinking

TLDR

1. Free speech makes us all better
2. campaign for me by being respectful as well as not spamming, while remaining proactive.
3. tempered reason is an important trait in leaders that RM has not displayed an ability to do

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As the rules state I am not allowed to start campaign threads any more, so this in effect makes my campaigning suspended.

I am still running for president, but just suspending the campaign. 

If my supporters want me elected, I advise them to reach out to other users independently of me and organize to keep them updated on the election in a neutral fashion, and to each reach out to 3 people out of their normal circle and get them to take action by voting. 

I encourage an outreach to long time users who have went silent to come back merely for a vote to show they still cares what happens to the site. 

My vice president will announce himself after his current mission is complete and I will be online approximately 5 minutes a day to work with my advisors and liaisons to the site. 


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Glad it is almost over. R.i.P. 

Her favorite food was hotdogs from street vendors. I wish she would have gotten just one more wiener before we lost her. 

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Most of the time the religion forum keeps out of site politics. I appreciate and respect that. It really shows most of you are above politics. However the site presidential election effects this forum greatly. The 2 presidential candidates, me and rational madman have wildly different views of what should happen with the religion forum section.

Me personally, I think the religion forum has it’s own culture and should be respected. I want you guys to be in control of your little part of the internet.

RM on the other hand wants to crackdown on the religion section. I will link to the following thread where he makes remarks on how he will crack down on you guys. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7106-a-witch-a-thang-a-yin-a-yang-a-rational-man-and-a-boomerang?page=3&post_number=53

The following is a quote of his on how he would start cracking down on religious forum regulars.

The mods would need to almost be 'too heavy handed' at first with how many ROs they set out.

You would find that at first the forums would seem 'dead' but slowly over time the more timid members and emotional members who aren't timid but know they react strongly can start to feel more welcome there.

I guarantee you there are members who barely posted there as well as onlookers to the website who took a couple of looks at threads there that never signed up specifically due to the toxic environment it has. In other words, there's activity that would be happening there with fun and friendly debate between theists and atheists, different theists, discussions of the meaning of traditions etc that aren't taking place because we have people too busy trying to derail threads and bring out the absolute worst in members that differ from their outlook.

On top of ROs, I think there needs to be a lot of active intervention, locking of threads etc. The religion forum users will at first maybe say 'stay out' but they will soon realise the help going on there when over time the more toxic bullies suddenly are either tamer or gone of their own volition. Not all the toxicity is the level of BrotherDThomas but what has happened is over time all the non-toxic members got eroded away and the only ones remaining either painfully tolerate and partly embrace the toxic environment or they totally and utterly perpetuate it. 

The toxicity is so direct and blatant that it is very easy to justify mod intervention to the people doing it and give them specific pointers to how to avoid ad hominem habits and perhaps discuss the topic more in an asking and answering format rather than a bite-back and berate format.

I can't give specifics without this thread itself possibly becoming classified as a callout thread but believe me, there are very specific habits of very specific members that if they were curtailed would completely transform the environment there. The mods are just obsessed with being lenient as in the past their intervening ways have been shamed and branded stupid by some members here.



I want you guys to control your future. If you want somebody to radically change this area you enjoy.

This is not a campaign thread, so I am not telling you who to vote for. However I think since the results of the election effect you, that you have a right to know the views of the candidates.

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I am honored to be nominated for the office of presidency. I humbly accept the honor of representing all of Dart. My main opponent is rational madman and in his thread, many people asked him questions pertaining to his presidency. I want to address those concerns, so my campaign and his can be compared side by side.

I understand that these sorts of things can get heated and personal. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but I think it’s beneath me and rational madman. We’ll both be running very polite, issues focused campaigns. (I believe)

I want my supporters to know, that any nastiness seen coming from the other campaign is purely from some of RM’s more vocal supporters and not a reflection of him. He’ll make a great president should he win, and he should be supported, even if his policies should be opposed.

RM is mainly running a campaign to stop a lot of the hate seen on the site, and his opinion of the mods failing to do their jobs and negate those negative experiences for users. In his campaign thread he has made good points about if the mods were more pro active in confronting bad behavior such as harassment and bullying, than we could avoid some bans and have a more active user base. He’s right. I prefer them just sending some PM’s and perhaps things like the recent drama can which polytheist witch has been subjected to, can be avoided. His solution would be better enforced and more frequent restraining orders and I disagree with that approach and have seen sites where the mods are just standard bearers who remind others to be respectful, and it has worked well. I’d encourage more of that approach, but that is just a minor squabble with his plan.

I think RM, is well suited to do those things. He has a history of protecting and looking out for the downtrodden. He was probably put on the Earth by God to do that mission. I want to support him in that, when I win the presidency. I will put him in charge of an anti bullying campaign that will work on that problem, completely independent of me. He will contact the mods directly and be a liaison to them as well as the public.

If you like what RM will do for the downtrodden, than vote me. With me in office, he doesn’t have to split his attention to other things a president does either.

Where we differ is probably on the freedom of speech angle. RM believes that if most people find an opinion disgusting, they should have the freedom to stop people from giving you arguments in favor of that opinion. This is no mere political opinion. He wants to do that to DART. He doesn’t understand that when there is more debate it benefits all of us. Studies have been done showing that organizations do better, when they have dissenters in their ranks who freely express their opinions. This bears out, even when the dissenters are always wrong. If these studies are to be trusted, than RM is actively trying to make DART worse, in that regard. (not intentionally)

We need to think about precedent here as well. The precedent of removing an unpopular opinion is not the only precedent at stake here, although that one is likely the most important. If we put him in office, than we will have his behavior as a precedent of what the president should be. RM I don’t think is capable of being an advocate for the people here.

The only real power of the presidency is their ability to influence moderators. If we put an impotent person up there, that is how they will be perceived in the future and the ability of the office to accomplish anything, will be forever marred. I can tell you, I won’t be impotent. I have a good relationship with the current mods and some former ones who still are influential and I can use as liaisons in my steed. I think I can directly advocate on behalf of the community, but if not than I have resources who can. I have one mod who was relaying private mod conversations to me via screenshots, and showing me the progress of my unbanning. Another mod I have met in person. Ragnar messages me from time to time to show me his more light hearted side in response to my posts. Whiteflame I have had phone calls with and a lot of personal conversations, and has always shown respect for what I say, even when what I have said has been ignorant. I will not be an impotent president. I will be one with actual power and influence.

The most important benefit of electing me, is I will give you actual currency. Wylted Bucks are not a joke. I spent 12 hours this weekend watching tutorials and following along on creating NFTs (crypto-currency), I want to announce that I have created a debateart.com NFT that uses avatars from this site as well as other images. I won’t release wylted bucks unless elected though.
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I am just going to periodically post evidence capitalism is evil. I used to have faith in it, but I keep seeing shit like the following and this is pretty much every single fortune 500 company

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Can some of the more tech savvy members of the site, please work on creating a browser extension for Chrome, that would prevent having to see the posts of people you block.

It's for polytheist witch. She has requested this.
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When you point out that 20% of nobel prize winners are Jewish or that most of the media is controlled by Jews, or that the government and Biden's cabinet is disproportionately Jewish. The despicable Jew will wave his hand. "Oy Vey, this is not true". I can't repect that obvious fucking lie, that they don't know.

I only respect Jews that respond with the following "Of course we have all that power. It is proof we are God's chosen people" Or maybe they respond with "We are superior mate, of course we more easily grab power" 

The second type of Jew is at least acknowledging that Jews do have disproportionate success. The funny thing is that the first type of Jew, frowns upon the second type. They see themselves as superior to "Jewish chauvinists" . If you are the first type and reading this, you aren't superior to people willing to acknowledge the truth. You are inferior to the second type for failing to acknowledge true things. Nothing is more important than truth. 

I don't agree with the second type of Jew, but they are at least honest. Jews have obviously succeeded because of strong in group preference and having a miniature society inside a large society which is very high trust amongst each other, but that is a different story
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I just want to show you some recent bans where certain things should not be taken into consideration.  A lot of the things people are being banned for also seem to be the things that generate site activity, and we need lots of activity to see the site be active. I'm afraid that now that rational madman is a heavy favorite to become president, they'll try to ban him. As much as he hated Mesmer, I know he would have fought this, because it brings him more pleasure to destroy his ideological opponents through argument as opposed to silencing them. 

Let's take Mesmer

Here is part of the reasoning given for her ban.

, a deeply troubling pattern of ideologically extremist rhetoric that invites and mimics a cesspool of white supremacist thought.

If it was merely rhetoric, I might agree. However she provided premises for her beliefs. If she's wrong it shouldn't be a problem to prove her wrong as opposed to banning her in an attempt to avoid her argument.


"things like the MAOA gene (warrior gene) and lower self-control ability of Blacks will represent this heritability in functional/genetic form."

Blatant declaration that black people are violent and unrestrained by nature.

You don't like it, disprove her. If anyone can disprove her it is whiteflame who really knows his stuff when it comes to genetics. Whiteflame apparently supported this decision, so why not just embarrass her by proving her wrong with your superior knowledge of genetics? Why support Chris's decision. If you perhaps could not prove her wrong, perhaps banning her was not the correct move, but coming over to her point of view.

You see with liberals, I think they believe we all have to be equally prone to violence, have equal IQ's and be equally athletic in order to prove we are all equal. This is a form of racism in and of itself. The problem isn't that liberals are racist for these internal beliefs though. The problem is that if anything threatens this world view, than they need to silence it. Anything that creates cognitive dissonance, must be shut down. 

I am being banned now. It's for the same bullshit reasons as Mesmer.  One reason is anti-semitism.

1. Incessant anti-Semitic rhetoric that has reached a boiling point, including implications that the Jews are “reptiles” and insinuating that all Jews could be plotting some evil scheme collectively.
"I don't know if it is just a secret cabal of jews that control everything or all jews are complicit, but they control the music industry and are doing fucked up things."
“man sends off lizard DNA to be tested and the DNA comes back as being g predominantly Jewish, confirming what David Icke has said for years”
“why are the jews afraid to answer for themselves and have to arrest people who criticize them?
And Jews wonder why people hate them.”

Note, none of this is untrue, with the exception of the lizard DNA one. The guys claim actually happened, but he was probably full of shit.  Jews really do have a lot of power in the music industry, as they do in a lot of entertainment, and rap music does encourage degeneracy. However instead of engaging with these things and maybe arguing something like "Yeah they make a lot of money in the music industry, but really they just give what the market demands", they instead just ban an opinion that challenges their world view. 

People were arrested for anti-semitism. It's easy to argue against this by saying something true in response like "You do know a lot of jews oppose laws against anti-semitism for the same exact reasons as you right?" . Which is an accurate and true response. Yet sadly instead of arguing effectively against anti-semitism they just ban me.

You might be wondering. Why if I could disprove my own posts, why did I post them? 

I have 2 reasons.  One is to provide a protective umbrella for people to express extreme beliefs. If I am making these posts, it allows people to be less shy about their secret beliefs. Some which may be disgusting and untrue, and others which may be disgusting and true, and something that would benefit us all to know. I did it precisely so people like mesmer would feel safe having their views challenged. 

The second reason is so you guys can have some experience challenging these beliefs effectively. When you argue against extremists, there are not just people on the fence listening to your arguments in real life, but you may actually change the belief of an extremists. How good would you feel, knowing that you may have stopped somebody from destroying their life with hate? How much better would you feel, knowing you perhaps prevented some form of domestic terrorism and saved lives. 

If you learn to argue effectively against these things you will.

For example it was easy to hate jews when Trump passed a law that basically allowed banning of anti-semitism on campuses across the nation. That sort of silencing makes you wonder, why do they need to shut up dissent? Then you may start thinking "Maybe because the anti-semitism is true and they can't argue against it". However lot's of Jewish organizations opposed the anti-semitism law as they should have https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/11/rights-groups-slam-trumps-anti-semitism-executive-order


The problems on this site are not from me using the word kike, or threads about anti-semitism. The problem is you guys are unwelcoming of extreme views and you are completely clueless how to address them.

Below is the other reason for my banning

2. Excessive vulgarity and some advocacy for extremism.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6841-is-rational-madman-a-dick-should-a-dick-be-president?page=1&post_number=1
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“You are saying the taliban simultaneously rapes little boys while also putting fags to death for also raping little boys.”
Use of a slur while arguing in support of the Taliban.

We can't just pick and choose slurs to like and dislike mod team. Some fruits may not even be offended by the term fag, so it should go ignored. 

It's true that I did show that the taliban may be better at running afghanistan than American troops. I wouldn't call that advocating for extremism. I consider advocating to be active encouragement of "individuals" to commit "acts" of extremism.

This site needs to be fixed. I think perhaps the only difference between David and Chris is that Chris is slower to react. We didn't want you to be like david, but slower to react. We want you to mod correctly Chris. The way you mod a debate site is simple. You allow every extremist belief, but you make sure everyone acts civilized towards each other. You basically do it the way Airmax did. 
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apparently the first amendment only applies to biden supporters, because recently a young man was arrested for criticizing the Afghanistan withdrawal.


Some idiot will likely say this man does not deserve freedom of speech because of his career or his race, but all American. Itizens deserve absolute freedom of speech without exception
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RM is a dick and We need dicks

The answer is yes. He's a dick. We have 3 types of people on this site. 

1. We have assholes that shit on everybody. They Shit on pussies and dicks. These can be considered the mods or the committed trolls and maybe a few others. Mostly though they are mods and religious forum trolls who for some reason sometimes venture out of the religion forum.

2. We have pussies. If you are reading this, this is probably you. The pussies tend to get fucked, by the dicks and shit on by the assholes. This is your most common Dart user, and I unfortunately can not name names for fear of breaking the rules here and being banned.

3. Then you have the dicks. Sure they fuck you pussies. It's true that they also get shit on by assholes, but sometimes, dicks fuck assholes. RM is a dick. We need him to fuck the mods who are assholes.  I know. You pussies don't like dicks, because they fuck you. However without the dicks occasionally fucking the assholes, than assholes would just shit all over everything. 

Why this dick in particular

Let's be honest. Dicks are a rare breed, but there are a few dicks to choose from to fuck the asshole mods. Why pick RM?

1. Nobody is more committed to this site than RM. He does more debates than anyone, posts more than almost anyone, votes more than anyone. He won't just disappear if we elect him. RM will fight for you pussies non stop against being shit on. You pussies need him.

2. RM always fights for what is right. This guy never backs down from a fight, He will not be bullied by the mods, they won't muzzle him. If he thinks something is wrong, nobody here will fight harder to make it right, even at the expense of his own self interest. 

3. We owe RM. For one second stop thinking about yourselves pussies. The fact the mods want to lock him out is enough reason to elect him, The above 2 points on their own is enough reason to elect him, but we owe RM. Without him the activity level on this site would be too low to make it enjoyable. It isn't just his own activity, but the response he sparks from people. He is single handedly keeping this site alive. 


BOTTOM LINE......

TIME TO FUCK SOME ASSHOLES.

VOTE RM FOR PRESIDENT
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My symptoms are getting worse. The vaccine did not work.

Day 1 sore throat mild fatigue soreness
Day 2 extreme fatigue soreness
Day 3 extreme fatigue puking mild coughing soreness
Day 4 no fatigue, puking, coughing up blood but the blood was red so no internal bleeding major body aches around ribs

Should I wait to cough up black blood before consulting a doctor or is red blood enough?

I feel like I should wait and see
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just watch the video. The jews are basically in control of the rap industry and they are for whatever reason. I don't know if it is just a secret cabal of jews that control everything or all jews are complicit, but they control the music industry and are doing fucked up things. https://youtu.be/OO3WF1Ek7RU


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here is my first piece of evidence. The Afghanistan military frequently raped little boys and members of the American military were informed to just turn a blind eye. But its not always obvious to staff in the room that the mike was down

Military men being unethical cowards, of course complied by allowing the rape of children. 
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Biden’s Handlers SCREAM at Reporters to Leave as Joe Biden Attempts to Take a Question from the Press (SHOCKING VIDEO)


From REDPILLED Media:

>Joe Biden spoke today at the UN General Assembly in New York City.

>He coughed onto the audience throughout his entire speech and couldn’t finish a single sentence without botching a series of words so as to make his remarks completely unintelligible.


>When he arrived back at the White House this afternoon the illegitimate president held a press conference in the Oval Office with British PM Boris Johnson.

>Biden’s handlers refused to allow him to answer questions from the press, with the entire White House staff callously screaming in their ears until they got up and left.

>They even tried to cover the cameras to hide Biden’s crippling dementia. They know every time he opens his mouth there’s a new national scandal.



When will they just pull the 25th and end it all already?

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welcome to darts first interfaith church service. Please post your favorite religious music for the next 30 minutes. 
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I will start a thread tomorrow at 11pm eastern as a compromise between the Sunday and Saturday sabbath. The worship is 2 hours long so lands on both. 

I want everyone to just post music in the thread from 11 to 1130

As a representative from each Abraham's faith is welcom to post their sermons from 1130 to 12.

From 12 to 1230, it is a free for all to do what you want that pertains to your faith. 


1230 to 100, time to start closing shop. Ask for donations, talk about your next sermon series, pray for each other etc. 


Remember atheists can BTFO

Prepare your sermons beginning now please.

Sermons will take the place of individual threads and be linked to from the main thread. Music belongs in its own thread to be linked to the main thread.

A discussion thread will be started so worship thread, music thread and sermon threads are organized more easily. Atheists before. Off topic posts will be mass reported to the mods and removed. 
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this forum is now a theist forum, theists of all religions are welcome to debate God here as long as it is the abrahamic God.  Atheists can still visit this section but must follow the rules below

1. Be respectful, ask questions to learn about the religions, but never to challenge any of them.

2. When we have our worship services, you are welcome to attend but you can not participate in online holy practices like confession or drinking the blood of christ. 

Any ideals from Christians to make this section less welcoming to atheist ideals, is welcome. Though atheists are welcome, because we want you to learn and avoid burning in hell.
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if you have a prayer request post it below or pm me if you want it private. 
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in short the media benefits, and Russell Brand seems to be the only voice of reason on the issue, that sheds the veil of what is going on right now

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Israeli forces are being sent to threaten the taliban through intimidation if they use their sovereign right to punish traitors and spies. 
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at first I thought they would just point to his obvious dementia, and have him removed through some political process. Now it appears they will use sleeper agents pretending to be Qtards to do the deed. https://mobile.twitter.com/harvardfacter/status/1428366834781196300

Pray for the president, and fight the deep state if they actually succeed in this coup attempt, they are priming us for.
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this is for kids who need time off of school, or burnt out employees needing a mental health break.

A false positive test is easy to get if you opt for a rapid covid test. It does not work on PCR tests. Just get some acidic beverage like Pepsi or orange juice on the testing swab. Your welcome
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while watching him on ABC, I couldn't help but to see they were using an orange filter, to make him look like Trump. 

For the first time ever, Biden is now being openly criticized by the media.

Even if you disagree with his policies, we need to see that clearly they are about to make him a villain and have him removed from office as incompetent, inserting Kamala Harris. 

A people's coup, is fine. However this is another deep state coup. Please pray for and stand behind Biden.
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a Twitter frog simultaneously proves how reasonable the taliban is and successfully negotiates the safe passage of Spanish diplomats and simultaneously also shows how incompetent actual governments are, that fail to do the same https://nationalfile.com/twitter-frog-account-successfully-negotiates-with-taliban-to-secure-safety-of-spanish-diplomats-after-government-fails/
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at first I had to stop drinking coke, because they are anti-white. Now I cannot drink Pepsi because they are anti-human https://youtu.be/rbV1qr_YYyc

Is literally every big corporation ran by pieces of shits?
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When asked about people falling thousands of feet to their death Biden days "that was like 4 or 5 days ago"

Kabul.literally in chaos and tons of people dying, when asked if the withdrawal went bad, he says no. 

"Executed perfectly, not my problem Jack"

This guy is hilarious. I underestimated him. 
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David reiner, had his dick cut off and was raised as a girl in order to prove sex is a social construct and reassignment surgery a good thing. The doctor who made him a girl, considered the surgery a success. 

All this pro transgender shit is basically the same. Some commie doctor who is after whatever conclusion they can get to feminine western men. https://youtu.be/SLFGMWoQaCU
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There is two reasons people become trannies.

1. They hate themselves. Maybe they were abused or mistreated as children, maybe not but they learned to hate themselves, so they think becoming a woman will erase the them that they hate. 

This is why the suicide rate among trannies is so high. Once they transition, they still realize that they are who they are and fail to escape themselves. This is all subconscious ofcourse so they don't realize it.  

This by far is the majority of trannies. I suggest seeking psychological help, so you can learn to love yourself. Mutilating yourself is not going to help you love yourself. Seek help with your gender dysphagia

2. The second type is the sicko who are attracted to the ideal of being the opposite gender. They really aren't much different than those people who cut off their own limbs because they fantasize about being handicapped. This requires more than just loving yourself. 

You probably fall under category one. I want you to know you are loved. If nobody in your life has shown you, you are loved than allow Jesus to. Jesus loves you. He's okay with you being a homosexual or fantasizing about being a girl. He wants to just show you that you are worthy of love. Come to Jesus 

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the president of Afghanistan ran, with several million dollars. 

The famous airport footage shows grown fighting age men trying to grab onto a plan and I guess hang onto it's wing while it flies to America. 

What the footage does not show, is women or children. These men left their wives and children, abandoned them. What type of cowardly man, flees his family?


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Just one of many reasons, but Afghanistan government forces would literally walk around raping boys with the full support of the United States Army. 

These are a bunch of local farmers, banding together and taking their country back from a puppet government. 
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the talisman is literally treating the former administration, better than they would have been treated if the reverse happened. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/taliban-declares-amnesty-as-it-urges-women-to-join-government-01629188262
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man sends off lizard DNA to be tested and the DNA comes back as being g predominantly Jewish, confirming what David Icke has said for years https://www.planet-today.com/2021/06/planet-today-man-and-his-wife-decided.html?m=1#gsc.tab=0
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facial expressions are vital at helping the development of children. Watch this video documenting a study on parental facial expressions and then try to tell me there is no negative effects from wearing masks all the time https://youtu.be/apzXGEbZht0
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recently a woman was arrested for criticizing some leaders who happened to be Jewish. https://www.jta.org/quick-reads

Even if she is antisemitic, why are the jews afraid to answer for themselves and have to arrest people who criticize them?
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A person who brought a lot of joy in my life has just died. Trevor moore. Watch this video in memory of him and  watch as many videos from his comedy troop as you can if you have never heard of him, so he can bring joy to your life. Here is a video that I hope makes somebody smile today. https://youtu.be/L1SKf9YU4QQ
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son of a prominent South Carolina family, kills girl in a boating accident. After the courts are bribed and he is let off, some heroic citizen inflicts justice on him 

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Okay Dart hear me out, me and  ilikepie figured out who actually butchers and cooks the human meat for the cannibal parties in Washington D.C.
It’s none other than chef Jose Andres.

Friends with the Obamas
Friends with Jeff Bezos
Friends with the Clintons
Was a close friend of Anthony Bourdain
He owns many prominent restaurants in Washington D.C, which are all frequented by politicians and the NWO elite

He is such a professional on the cooking of human flesh, that he was hired as the cooking consultant on the NBC show “Hannibal”, which of course is about a cannibal.



Jose was recently given a $100 million dollar gift “to do with as he pleases” from Jeff Bezos. Which to me seems like a pay off for his human butchery and cooking services.




Both Jose Andres and Pedo James Alafantis (comet ping pong) we’re both named as some of the most powerful people in D.C in 2012



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It's true most of Washington is pedophiles. Q believers knew it the whole time, and Alex Jones was mocked for saying it prior to the metoo. Movement. 
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liberals force university to remove a 6 ton rock, because boulders are racist. https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/racist-rock-removed-from-university-of-wisconsin-madison-campus/
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I'm not saying they should have jumped in and risked getting taken down with him, especially considering the gators in Florida, but what type of sociopaths mock a drowning man? Why is there an epidemic of this in the black community? 
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