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is the assumption that a lot goes under reported?
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@whiteflame
what is the 5x multiplier and why would you use it as opposed to the actual available stats?
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@Stephen
okay, I will ask him,, but that is not what Roman's means. There is no such thing as sinless. We have all sinned against God. The only exception is Jesus.
Paul seems to be lamenting that he tries really hard to be sinless and yet is condemned to hell. He could be saying he is condemned because of original sin.
However, I think if we look at another vs in the Bible we will more closely see what he is referring to.
We all fall short of the glory of God and are condemned to hell.
The above statement is what he is referring to. This is why Christians do not believe that anybody can be saved through works.
You can make 100 million a year and donate all 100 million to charity, saving hundreds of thousands of lives. You can be a great father, husband and son. You can be honest always, and polite. You could jump in front of a train to save one thousand school children and you still fall short of the glory of God. You still have sinned at some point and deserve death.
Stephen, we are all bad people. All Christians are bad people. God loves us despite this. He gave his son to die for our sins, so that are evil ways may be forgiven and we may live forever.
Paul knows we are all evil, and he is lamenting that no amount of deeds makes him worthy of heaven.
The verse is not about telling people to lie. Christians are not told to lie in order to spread their faith. In fact gere is what Jesus says about spreading the faith.
Let the dead bury their dead
He refers to all non Christians as dead. It's great to save their lives, but if they don't want to be saved, you don't need to lie. You just leave the dead to bury the dead. It's more about just shrugging your shoulders and saying.
"IT'S NOT IN my hands, it is up to God to save the dead, not me"
God doesn't want Christians to lie. He sent many Christians to die, rather than lie. When faced with the consequence of vicious deaths in the arena by Caesar or lying about their faith, many Christians gladly died and maintained the truth.
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@Reece101
that's silly. Fish tank cleaner cures covid, not the cure for covid
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Magistrate can extend lylo by one day and give us an advantage can't it? I just looked, if we were at 2 vs 2 and one of the scum was arrested the previous night, it would be 2 vs 1.
Pie, if somebody loses a vote, would a 2 vs 2 tie mean that we only need 2 votes to lynch?
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@badger
sometimes players do come i. Here pretending to be inexperienced so they can play the dumb noob role, and get easy town cred. I guess I'll have to keep an eye on him and see if he accidentally slips and says anything indicating prior experience. So far he seems sort of legit
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@whiteflame
Should a healthy person expose themselves to a 1 in 5000 risk of dying of a covid vaccine?
I haven't looked at the actual risk of vaccine injection, but let's say 1 in 5000 die. Well with covid19, especially for shut ins like me, I have virtually no risk of getting it. I haven been sick in about 5 years, even though I am in no way a germaphobe. I will eat stuff off the ground, I don't care. So somebody like me has virtually no chance of getting covid 19, we'll put the odds at 5% of getting it because of increased communicablity.
In my age group and level of fitness, I have almost a zero percent chance of dying if I do get the China flu. I already got the Johnson and Johnson one, because I felt like it had the least risk and my work paid me to get it, about $500. However, assuming I did not get the vaccine, why would I get it now and take my risk of dying from virtually zero, to 1 in 5000?
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@oromagi
i am aware of that about tiktok. I thought they avoided the ban though, because they were sold to an American company.
I don't really use it, but on some websites I go to I see the seizure videos posted from tiktok. I tried to discourage the wife from using it, when I found out the Chinese were using it for espionage. She is addicted though.
In Terms of banning it, and this Is off topic . We can't really say we respect freedom of the press in this country or freedom of expression, if we try to ban propaganda from foreign intelligence agencies or ban apps that collect data that can harm us. More exposed risk, is the cost of living in a free society.
It's why we say it is better for a guilty man to go free than an innocent one be arrested. It exposes us to more criminality on the street, but we respect freedom and gladly take the risk.
My issue is that I just can't see how anti vaccine propaganda would benefit a foreign government. I know pro vaccine propaganda would benefit several billionaires and investors, but other than people shorting Astra zeneca stocks or something, who would have reason to push anti vaccine propaganda? Why would they do it?
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@MarkWebberFan
Is death a punishment for apostates (I'm referring to your statement "else punished") above?
When you look at how predominantly muslim societies will often stone queers to death and do honor killings, I think they mean punished by death in those statistics.
I know there are other forms of punishment for leaving religions, like the jehovah witnesses will be ghosted by their entire family and the friends they have in the religion. Which socks, but is fine because of freedom of association. I just wonder if maybe I am incorrect and the Muslims polled, have maybe a different view on how to pu is apostasy. I'm trying to learn a bit about Islam though and Yasmine is a valuable resource in that regard.
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@Double_R
Everyone wants to hate those who are in charge or those whom they see as above them. It’s just resentment, which is always easier to conjure up and capitalize on than making a valid argument.
It's relevant.
It is fine to criticize the current establishment that has ran Washington forever.
Replacing a bad establishment, with a good establishment should be everyone's priorities, and calling the establishment out, is not about creating a bogey man.
They are called out, because we want them to know that the working class man matters. That working class people need to be their priority, instead of them being sell outs to their lobbyist friends and other millionaires they hang out with all day in Washington.
Calling them the establishment, let's them know we know they have forgotten their responsibility to their constituents and have focused on their elitism.
It's meant to get them to realize they need to step aside, so some outsider can come clean up their messes or they need to start focusing on working for the people, instead of for the professional lobby class.
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@Yassine
can you respond to Bone's post. I will copy and paste it below. I am curious about your take on what he said.
Islam, even in moderation, is not a religion of peace. A study by Pew Research Centre involving 38,000 from over 39 different countries found that
- 60% of moderate Muslims believe that a wife should obey her husband
- 75% believe that it is necessary to believe in Allah to be a moral person
- 40% want the death penalty for those who leave Islam
- 60% want Sharia law to be the official law of their country.
- 61% of moderate, British Muslims believe that homosexuals should be punished.
While I can agree that women should obey their husband, and I also agree about morality coming from Allah.
The stat I am concerned about is punishing those who leave the faith. What would that pu ishment entail and why? Isn't them being condemned to hell a good enough punishment as is?
Also, while homosexuality should certainly be discouraged through social pressure, I'm not exactly sure why a Muslim would advocate stoning the..
Please respond to the punishment stuff.
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Another death. I could probably post 1000 of these
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no mainstream media mentions it though
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I keep getting pointed at news articles about beautiful young people dying from vaccinatio. Every day also. Stories like this https://www.witsnews.com/mom-45-who-got-job-at-john-hopkins-hospital-dies-after-reaction-to-work-mandated-covid-vaccine/
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@whiteflame
I keep seeing stuff like the above. Everywhere I turn. Somebody on Twitter saying their son died of the vaccine or tik tok videos of terrible side effects or strange ones like magnets sticking to the arm.
How can you be sure there is no media cover up, when I am being bombarded with these things? Everywhere I turn I see something new like this.
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why do I keep seeing tik tok videos of people having uncontrollable shaking after taking the covid19 vaccines?
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@Double_R
Because labeling something as “the establishment” is easier. Not because it makes actual sense, but because it appeals to people’s emotions and particularly people’s sense of inferiority. Everyone wants to hate those who are in charge or those whom they see as above them. It’s just resentment, which is always easier to conjure up and capitalize on than making a valid argument
This is simply not true. I have managed plenty of teams of people and have been loved. Being hated is a mark of bad leadership. Not because you should strive to be liked, but because your policies should bring everyone up.
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@badger
This one's off to a livelier start. I got the Moderna vaccine today
I have a thread up on how to fight off the vaccine so you don't die. Please read
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I can't in good co science support the evil things the American government has engaged in.
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also I feel like a support of democracy is the same thing as support for the big corporations who own politicians and their Washington cliques
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@oromagi
You critique democratic power cliques but you would replace them with establishments of one- Kings and dictators who might kill all those Jews you are so worried about. The fact that some dictators might rather kill you never seems to occur.
I feel like I am more likely to be killed by a democratic institution. I've been reading a lot of leftist propaganda as well as seeing moves like cellphone conversations being monitored so the government can have fact checkers checking texts.
Big tech seems to be the fist of the left. Monitoring unapproved opinions and giving them no platform.
The atta kS on free speech on campus by literally atta king conservative speakers.
I'm conservative oromagi. I don't think the country will be safe for me once the leftists are in charge, nor for my children. I feel like I have to support some sort of fascism or become a victim of leftists.
I saw them going after businesses, burning them down. They have advocated for taking these riots to the suburbs, which I Don't live in but no it means take the riots to conservatives.
If a reactionary does not come to power, I'll probably be fighting for survival. It's life or death. If the leftists don't kill me, then they'll turn America i to Venezuela, and I'll want to be dead anyway
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@oromagi
not every closed social groups is "the establishment" .
Those are just cliques. They may have gained some temporary power. The real danger is the people with entrenched power over the American government and American institutions.
It's possible that trumps team could become the establishment. There is some evidence liberalism is dead and lefties or reactionaries will inherit the throne.
I doubt Trump and company could become the establishment though. He is literally part of a movement that will immediately usurp his thrown after power is obtained. Only Kushner has the political acumen to maintain sizeable power after the transfer of power. Maybe a few other behind the scenes manipulators.
The same reason of AOC became the face of leftist and took the throne, it would be unlikely her group would maintain power, and leftists are worse than reactionaries because so many groups would make overt power grabs as opposed to the more gentlemanly way, that reactionaries vie for power
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@oromagi
I feel like your definition was accurate, but your interpretation inaccurate.
I was focusing on the part of the definition itinerary referring to closed social groups. Referring the establishment as a sort of elite Washington clique that is hard to Penetrate. Senate is a relatively small group of people and at the top of the social hierarchy.
Here is what happens. They get elected promising to take on the establishment. Then they make friends with other politians become part of the in group, and become a part of the ivory tower. Ideally they go to Washington and instead of becoming part of these social cliques, they remain true to their constituents.
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@drlebronski
SOMETIMES I just tag everyone and harass them to get activity going.
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@oromagi
you are over generalizing the word. It doesn't merely mean who is in charge. Not every senator is part of the establishment. It would mostly be the limousine liberals and neocons, but their ideologies are not what make them establishment. It is an elite Washington clique.
Being a billionaire does not make you the establishment. Clearly Trump or Paul Mitchell or Vince McMahon are not part of the establishment.
In congress and the senate, not all people are part of the establishment.
AOC is not, nor is Ted Cruz or even Bernie Sanders.
So no, you can't just label somebody one because of the office they hold.
I lived in Delaware long before Biden was president. Even being around the college his wife worked at. I never once met the guy and that is a small area. Wilmington Delaware, Newark those spots, I ran into people I knew every day. I never saw Biden. Seems to me he just hung out in DC, in his ivory tower. I knew some people who claimed to have known his children or faced them, but I never saw the guy. He never shook my hand. I did meet a senator there, but it wasn't him. The senator I didn't interact with much, because I hate politicians, but he seemed down to earth.
I also don't interact with people who claim to be foster care parents, for similar reasons. I hate foster parents as well.
It's a weird thing. I really help the republican party in the area, but when they bring politicians around and try to get me to meet them, I avoid it. Fuck those guys.
Those guys atheist try to meet me though. Biden, I lived in his town. I was around masons and he was also, and yet I never met him. I can only think it's because he is too stuck up to meet me.
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@drlebronski
yes it means mafia and no. This is like las Vegas. What happens here stays here while the game is in progress.
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@drlebronski
Feelings happen, but anything you can articulate will help with two things.
1. Finding errors in your thinking
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2. Convincing other members of town to lynch scum
1. Finding errors in your thinking
And
2. Convincing other members of town to lynch scum
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@drlebronski
early in the game is usually what is referred to as RVS, meaning random voting stage. We just kinda apply pressure randomly to get more information.
My philosophy is that RVS is unnecessary, that we always have some information to go on.
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@Lunatic
during the height of the pandemic he thought we should prioritize the lives of elderly whites over poor working class blacks, whose lives were made worse by shut downs.
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Lunatic is town. He legit asked pie to make him town as a condition for joining the game. I won't entertain any analysis contradictory to town reading lunatic.
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Oro just used the genetic fallacy.
Person a has religious ties and I don't like their religion, so those people cannot possibly have information that is accurate.
If a cult leader tells oro that lions are heading for him and he sees lions heading for him in the distance, he will dismiss it as untrue because he doesn't like the cult leader
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@Double_R
The establishment is an imaginary bogeyman
This is the tell tale sign of somebody who thinks they are part of the establishment.
To be so stupid as to think that their are no deeply entrenched Washington elite is stupid. You have whole dynasties like the Bush's, Clinton's and Kennedies and other long time politicians
Biden for example has been deeply entrenched in Washington for years and so many of them have lost touch with the average person. And denying this exists and no "establishment" are real is retarded.
You have establishment where ever you go. It fills a power vacuum created in democratic societies or institutions. Even on this site, there are a handful of people who collectively have a large influence over the site culture and can be referred to as "the establishment" . By the way, you aren't one of them and I am.
The establishment is real wherever you go, and yes they might have different opinions than each other or on be separate sides of the aisle, but the one thing that connects them is that they are usually in an ivory tower and all of their thinking is from a frame of reference most of us, never experience.
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@zedvictor4
ww2 is Americans making sure we remain free.
Freedom is best expressed through a nations ability to fuck animals.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
clearly there were shenanigans by Republicans. Like Trump sabotaging the mail service. Democrats were just massively more successful at shenanigans.
At worst though, pue would have been saying I was mistaken.
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@oromagi
the egregore doesn't have a name that I am aware of. There was a certain Jewish messiah that lived in the 17th century that the Jewish mafia follow and the egregore probably began with him gai ing wide appeal in the Jewish community
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@oromagi
By making them aware of the egregore that controls their minds. They subconsciously move towards the same goals as seen in the learned protocol of the elders of zion (no coincidence that everything in the document has come to pass) .
Many anti zionist jewelry have already broken the hold of the evil egregore
Many anti zionist jewelry have already broken the hold of the evil egregore
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They shouldn't have cheated. They never considered the co sequences for making the American people aware their vote does not matter. They shouldn't have made it so obvious, with braggadocious articles written by the elites with thinly veiled headlines such as "the shadow campaign plan to save the election"
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@oromagi
I believe jews should be free.
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@Greyparrot
Alabama will let you fuck a chimpanzee. It's why we went to war against the germans
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@oromagi
Jews hate freedom accept for their own. In the video when hews were asked to say "free Palestine " they all refuse.
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@oromagi
Oromagi
Election frayd never happened. It is impossible for elections to be wrong
Also oromagi
Here are several examples of election fraud.
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Democrats have stated that there is no way any inaccuracies in the election happened. Yet it is open knowledge Fulton county establishment double counted Biden votes. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/brad-raffensperger-demands-firing-fulton-county-georgia-election-officials-double-counted-ballots
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@oromagi
That really has nothing to do with why jews hate freedom. Please respond to the argument instead of using character attacks
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Also show me the evidence the photos of politicians cowering is fake.
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