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Disc, can you list all of your reads from most town to most scummy and everything in between please?

Not a safe claim. Real role. The claim would be easy to sniff out as bullshit if he was forced to prove his role

Is ever a fire water earth or air pokemon or however they fucking classify them

I think speed was activity prompted given what he posted, which makes me think he is scum, because me and bsh1 were clearly not activity  prompted

This crosses me as some sort of weird gloat. It wouldn't  even be a bus, just creating separation and disc wanting g to be in the majority.

Bsh1 is wrong. Longer DPs do not benefit town, though they should not be rushed. I think FT analyzed the length of dp1 Nd correct lunches and it seemed that quicker DPs had more accurate lynches  on average

VTNL ing is okay for 2 or 3 players to prevent every lynch from being scum directed if town is inactive. So their logic is solid. Taking it to L2 is going g too far though and silly and it seems mharman knows it is silly as well, yet participated. He also claimed universal backup which is at least a mafia role half the time

Post 13, you said you had to post something. Were you warned in your PM about being  inactive?

Post 9 disc says this 

Coming into the day, with a plan instead of seeing where things stand is typical of scum and almost exclusive to them on dp2

I wanna reread discs posts. Right now I think Pie and disc are on the scum team and mharman possibly as well. 

We need your role specifically. 

I think disc is a smart player but we can all do dumb shit. So that isn"t overly concerning 

VTNLs are stupid move on. We can solve this

If I peg somebody as scum I could give a shit less about claims, and I will read dp1. Nobody lynch until I can give anal

I think club is clearly town and am disappointed as I was clearly Mia and not lurking or anything

Why is disc scum? Why do they think you are scum. Please update me quickly so I can co tribute today. I am ponya  and vanilla btw

Role and kills  fucking auto correct

Don't use your rule jerk. Fucking dick. Skills need to be team directed. Stop with your shit, right this minute

BSH1 thinks he can't be fair with me due to previous co flicts, but it is bullshit. I trust him to be fair

WtF I disappear for a week and am poisoned. I shit you not. It had to be a member of town to do something as stupid as poison somebody who is inactive. Hold on let me look at my PM and see what my role and affiliation are

It is important for the early users of a site to establish an appropriate culture. I at first assumed that the culture from DDO would carry over, or that a common sense naturally arising one would occur, but it has not and will not. It is up to the more experienced debate site users to impose a culture, so we can ensure a suitable atmosphere to come to. 

Some people have done a great job of imposing an appropriate culture as it is. BSH1 has created voting guides that should be read by every person who has not read them. 

1. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1789/voting-guide-tabula-rasa-judging

2. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1790/in-depth-voting-guide

Ramshutu is surprisingly (To me anyway), doing a great job of modding votes on debates. Ragnar is leaving comments on debates and interacting with new users in a way that pressures them to create better debates as well as leave better votes. I think we can all apply more peer pressure in this regard though. Ads work, if we could make our profile page advertisements for appropriate behavior by posting bsh1's guides and other useful information it would be helpful at imposing the correct culture. If we interact with and teach users the correct ways to do things, it will help impose the correct culture by applying peer pressure. 

I'm sure I will be leaving out some people here, and I am sorry, but others have done a good job of imposing the correct cultural mentality on this site as well. The group known as the Deplorable's, have fought against overzealous moderation, and the current moderation team has respected this push. I'm sure many other culture wars will happen in the future of this site, but our side must win, if this site is to remain usable. 

The reason we need to worry, is because I see another culture starting to fight the correct culture for dominance. There are 3 main values (that I want to focus on) that the correct culture has, that this new culture does not. I will label the correct mentality as DART elite mentality. 

We value:

1. Freedom of ideals

2. Every man as an Island

3. Challenging competitions

The other culture that we need to declare war on is more of a Reddit mentality. They value;

1. Appropriate ideals

2. Teamwork

3. Easy defense of their ideals

I call it a Reddit mentality, because like redditors, instead of caring about the quality of content, they just care to promote content that appeals to their biases. 

On DDO, I would have to fight against bias judges, when I debated devil's advocate positions such as the following; https://www.debateart.com/debates/1179 

The bias could be overcome. I could argue better than my opponent on DDO and with such a controversial position, win 50% of the time I out argued my opponent by a small margin. However on DART, because of the influx of Reddit mentality, I must win by a large margin. If I win by a small margin on a controversial position, I will always lose. This is because of the Reddit mentality, of voting for content you agree with and against content you disagree with. I am going to say it. On this site, at this time "Confirmation Bias cannot be overcome". 

Here is what you can do to help.

1. Go out of your way to cast fair votes on controversial debates.

2. Post BSH1's voting guides to your profile wall so they get more exposure

3. Talk a lot about the culture of the site to new users.

The Redditors on this site are fond of teamwork. You can see it when one of our less popular irrational not sane members, post about bullying, perceiving everyone and everything as an oppressor. They are defending others, (or themselves with the ruse of defending others) because they do not understand that the site is about learning to defend your ideals against heavy scrutiny. It is about toughening people up. If we want the world to be open to discussing various ideals, if we want people to come out of their shells so they can contribute to society through the spread of their ideals, than we need to stop defending people and to allow them to grow a set of balls, so that they as individuals can make the world a better place, instead of depending on you to do it for them.

Here is how you can help

1. Don't defend anybody who is feeling attacked, and if they are legitimately being attacked just report it to a mod.

2. Don't defend anybody, even if you agree with them. Allow their conversation to happen so they can defend their own ideals.

3. If somebody defends a person you are talking to, do not engage, Ignore them and continue attacking their points.

The Redditors can be seen at the top of the leader board. On DDO the leaderboard was occupied almost exclusively by scary debaters, because most debaters were not scared to make debates they stood a good chance of losing. This is not to dismiss all people near the top of the current leaderboard. Oromagi is legitimately tough as an opponent, but most near the top are not as tough as him. People should be mocked for taking easy wins, they should be confronted so they know, we know, they are cowards. If you see somebody who is exclusively padding their record with easy debates, try to snipe them, if you see an opportunity. If they place a debate, and you see a way to take it off topic, because they fucked up the resolution, than do so. Hopefully judges are sympathetic to what you are attempting to do.

I think I give a brief overview in my debate with YYW even if I did not defend it well enough to win. I would search his debates instead of mine since he has less

Been a while since I been on the site. Thought they would have a brief overview on the first page. I will explain more later if prodded. The FAQ should be enough

It is not a right wing think tank amd shouldn't be merely dismissed if it was. A bipartisan panel of experts were put together to replace the current income tax system with a more fair one, this is what they came up with. Am watching Lion King but posted the link if yoy were interested in looking at it furtger on your own

Don't you think welfare would be unnecessary with a sufficiently high UBI? 

It is actually fairtax.org sorry. Your last sentence is incomprehensible to me. 

It is more fair for the reasons listed on fairtaxact.org and it has been proven to both increase tax revenue while simultaneously reducing everybody's tax burden. It also bring us one step closer to a minimum basic income because of the stipend it sends out.

IN for pokemon, it gives me more room for fake claims I suspect

In, but I hate all the themes. I hate this shit, it makes me so lost as scum when you guys do these themes

The difference is that the fair tax act has been analyzed by economists and proven to be superior to our current system. Also most NASA scientists believe that intelligent life likely exists on other planets, so your belief is the status quo.

Can you move this post to the personal section and start reprimanding people for doing this shit?

Okay, that sounds interesting

I made my scum assumptions when, virtuoso was found innocent, but I will use anything for justification. I never argue honestly, just to persuade. If anyone on here was at my IQ level I may argue in an honest way, but that is clearly not the case

Hacker is the role? What is your role and how does it work?

You guys need to be more active. I was offline for 5 minutes I come back and no comments. What the fuck

Not sure if supa is town confirming alec or if he is just fucking with me

Supa, you keep fucking up. Alec's name was seperated from ours because you read from your town/scum list and kept the names in order. I hope you are more considerate of yoyr actions in the next game you host

I forgot. What was your full claim again?

Let's finish this game. Last one left in the scum pile 

Stupid when I had a provable claim to check me

Vote on my debate with that negroid please

Usually I wpuld play along, but I won't here. I am proud of bagging a few black chicks. They were fun and the race play was awesome. Nothing more fun than paying a black chick her reparations while she claws you and leaves you bleeding and in a state of total exhaustion.

I can't be racist. I have fucked atleast 5 black chicks

Also this debate needs votes, so help a nigga out. 

I respond to you like 2 seconds later, how are you gone already?

I can't really stand debating black people, because of shit like this. https://www.debateart.com/debates/1179?open_tab=arguments

It's honestly not even a challenge to debate blacks and if you are black do not accept a debate with me, because I don't feel like wasting my time debating somebody with an IQ of 85, just to get to the foregone conclusion. I am one of the lowest ranked debaters here, but sadly still undefeated against the negroid population.

Does anyone else have similar experiences debating blackie?

Get your fucking votes off of me, I will be confirmed tonight. 

Actually this is weird but I will 100% use my role tonight anyway, it seems that if I miss my hitting scum, I die. The math should still be in our favor

I'm ron stoppable and vig. Lynch another unconfirmed, I will shoot one, proving my role and we will have the last scum by poe tomorrow at worst case, best case game ends np1