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A Simple Question about the Current US Economy
The part where you keep on talking rubbish instead of answering my simple question. We both know it's rubbish, hence the sidestepping.
Hey it's a tough gig to advocate for something so obviously ridiculous on its face. You just keep on saying the word risk to yourself over and over. 
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Still sidestepping the question. Very telling I must say.
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Still talking rubbish. I'm asking a very easy question. The economy is not a simple thing, we can leave that aside for now. I want an answer to the easy question.
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@Greyparrot
The Math guy has given a number of very sensible alternatives. Personally, I like Bernie's idea. Give workers a seat at the board. There's a little bit of anarcho-syndicalism in that or something. But Musk didn't exist 30 years ago. He exists now because CEO's have leveraged their position at the table in order to grab more wealth for themselves. We had geniuses and innovators  and progress long before him without the absurd wealth inequality. The fact of the matter is that capitalism is a runaway train.

You never answered my question. Does this obvious extreme of Elon Musk earning more in a minute than the average household does in years never give you pause?
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GP nothing in your posts is in any way substantive. It's very obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about and are repeating dopey soundbites. Do you ever for a  second stop and think yeah, Elon Musk is earning more per minute than the average household earns in years, that seems a little wild? Is it not ever a level of extreme that cuts right through all your nonsense? It is so extreme. Like, no doubts ever? Again, just curious. 
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The cost of living and economy sucks compared to boomer days
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@zedvictor4
Money is our access to shared resources, zed. You don't see a problem where fewer and fewer people have more and more of the money? Your grandkids will never afford a house.

What you think of Spain's 100% property tax on non-EU residents?

Must be a bit of a sting in it for you. 
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@Savant
Standard of living is the entire point. If you wouldn't like a society where everyone is poor, then you care about standard of living. A hundred years ago, people with a modern standard of living were lampooned as greedy fat cats living a rare and unsustainable life. Today, it's commonplace in first world countries.
No it isn't. A fair system is the point. A system that serves the people living under it. Life expectancy is up the world over. Everyone's got a phone now, big whoop. Unless your point is that without massive inequality we'd have no vaccines, then you have no point.

Again, that's increased demand. What you really want is for more living spaces to be produced. But your complaint is the cost of real estate, which is a zero-sum game between buyers and sellers. If the price plummets, just as many people will lose.
My complaint is that in an economy where wealth is leaving the middle class, where the wealth and salaries of the richest are skyrocketing, our future is bought out from underneath us. People can afford houses or CEOs can afford super yachts. The rising cost of land is in part down to there more being people. It's also obviously down to massive wealth inequality, meaning fewer people buy far more. 

How do you think goods, services, and inventions are produced?
Very unfairly. With the rewards for their production going mostly to very small groups of people. 
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The cost of living and economy sucks compared to boomer days
Standard of living has increased.
So what? We all brush our teeth now. We live longer. Medicine and technology are better. We got big TVs to waste our lives on. That's the bare minimum. This doesn't mean that people are getting their slice of the pie. 

Most of their wealth comes from stock, not from salary. I'm talking about benefits and wages.
How is stock not total compensation? 

Demand for homes increases when people want homes. How are you going to blame this on anyone other than those increasing the demand?
You blame it on a system that allows massive wealth inequality, allows investors and the otherwise super rich to buy up properties. Everyone ever has wanted a home. 

The point is increased productivity being passed onto employees. Healthcare and schooling are two specific industries, so this critique can't be blamed on the vast majority of companies, which don't control healthcare or schooling prices. Life expectancy has gone up. Standard of living has gone up. A lot of increasing healthcare costs are due to new drugs coming out. When you hear that the price of "insulin" has gone up, it's generally because some new, better form of it was invented, and everyone wants the new thing. Most drugs over 20 years old are no longer patented.
Healthcare and schooling are essential human needs. You're tacking them in there as benefits passed on to employees to show that people are as wealthy as ever. So people's wealth is their education and their healthcare and they can't afford houses? Your "total compensation" evaporates pretty fucking quickly.

Life expectancy has gone up. Standard of living has gone up.
This is the given in human progress. It says next to fuck all about the state of our economy. 
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Real compensation has increased, matching the rise in productivity.
This thing also is apparently ridiculously misleading. Total compensation to include exorbitant healthcare costs, cost of schooling. Employees to include CEOs and executives, funny attempt to sweep wealth inequality under the rug. So where's the average person in this? Begging healthcare from their employer? 
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@Savant
If demand is going up, that's good for people who own homes. The people complaining about the problem are part of said demand, so they may as well blame themselves.

Not sure how you write this and think it makes any sense at all. People - that being every young person - should just not want homes? That's the solution? Housing prices, cost of schooling, medical debt in the case of the US - has all skyrocketed. We live in an economy that caters to the super rich. It's crazy debt and scraping by for everyone else. No financial security. Few lucky enough to have a house before middle age. Something is very wrong. 
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A Simple Question about the Current US Economy
I don't know how you lot didn't vote that man.
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Bernie had the solution in wanting workers to get a seat at the board. It's dynamite as an idea, but something has to give. CEO money is ridiculous.
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A Simple Question about the Current US Economy
“CEOs are getting paid more because of their leverage over corporate boards, not because of their skills or contributions they make to their firms,” the EPI report stated. “Exorbitant CEO pay has contributed to rising inequality in recent decades as it has likely pulled up the pay of other top earners—concentrating earnings at the top and leaving fewer gains for ordinary workers.

And then we have to compete with these individuals for resources. This is why people can't afford houses, because we're being outbid on land by people with ludicrously unjust amounts of money. Everything scarce belongs to the rich because we let them grant themselves ludicrous salaries and outbid us. 
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America has become 'uniquely stupid'
I think social media exacerbates it, but I don't think it's the root cause. We have all of these things in Europe and we're not so silly. I think America is uniquely political owing to a number of factors: being the biggest superpower in the world, the unique social circumstances surrounding a recently freed slave subclass, just the lunatic amount of guns you all have lying around, the idiot healthcare, and on. You've all got a lot to be political about, more than most, and I think you've got an overdeveloped political muscle for it. You're all very much up in each other's business. The rest of the world is just going about our day. I can probably name 3 Irish politicians.
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Trump's Federal Spending Freeze
I'm not racist, I've just read the works of these Uncle Toms who make a fortune validating white racism. How oblivious do you have to be to cite these guys? What other market niche are they filling?

It's just a coincidence that I've ended up at this Nazi rally with all these illiterate trailer trash Americans.
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No balls, sad. Nobody you're talking to has any respect for you and your wheedling false face posts. You can at least respect yourself.
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Why don't you just say "I am a racist piece of shit" one time. What are you afraid of? You must tire of this wheedling bullshitting. Nobody you're talking to thinks for a second that you care about fairness or best ways forward. It would be liberating man. One time.
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True equality is the eradication of all race-based politics. On an unrelated note, let's carry out an ethnic cleansing. We must preserve our culture. I want photo shoots of manacled brown men being loaded into planes. That shit warms my shriveled, blackened heart to see. 
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Plane Crash Near Washington, D.C. - 67 dead
ok creepy paedophile guy
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You can think about it later on tonight alone in your bed.
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faux law
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You're on here all day long you sadsack. Still curious if you want to give an answer.
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@Greyparrot
Genuinely curious. He's a good dude. Do you think he respects you? He thinks you're a piece of shit. I think you're a piece of shit. What do you think?
As humans we talk to ourselves about ourselves. We tell ourselves things about ourselves. We decide things about ourselves as best we can. We lay it all out before God. What do you make of yourself here?
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@Sidewalker
You think GP ever sits back from his screen and thinks "Wow I'm a piece of shit human being?"
I just don't understand how a person makes posts like this day in day out.
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@Sidewalker
"There, but for the grace of God go I"
Great post man. As human as it gets. The American mentality is alien as shit to me, but you're a good old dude Sidewalker.
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Trump's New AI Plan Will Replace Doctors, Lawyers and Teachers.
Speaking in a session dubbed “Debating Technology” at Davos on Thursday, LeCun said that the “flavor of AI” that we have at the moment — that is, generative AI and large language models (LLMs) — isn’t really up to all that much. It’s useful, sure, but falls short on many fronts.

“I think the shelf life of the current [LLM] paradigm is fairly short, probably three to five years,” LeCun said. “I think within five years, nobody in their right mind would use them anymore, at least not as the central component of an AI system. I think [….] we’re going to see the emergence of a new paradigm for AI architectures, which may not have the limitations of current AI systems.”

These “limitations” inhibit truly intelligent behavior in machines, LeCun says. This is down to four key reasons: a lack of understanding of the physical world; a lack of persistent memory; a lack of reasoning; and a lack of complex planning capabilities.

“LLMs really are not capable of any of this,” LeCun said. “So there’s going to be another revolution of AI over the next few years. We may have to change the name of it, because it’s probably not going to be generative in the sense that we understand it today.”
The potential of LLM's is massively overstated. Take it from Yann LeCun, an actual genius in the field. He knows a lot more about what he's talking about than anyone else you'll listen to on this. ChatGPT ain't taking anyone's job. Every software engineer knows that.
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Andrew Tate will be PM of the UK
We must defeat the matrix. That's her there, Isabella, changing your dad's diaper. Not the assembly of billionaires lined up behind our elected billionaire president. They own half the wealth in the country between them, but that's fine.

Pitifully stupid man.
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Because this is a trend that can continue: 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/12/27/the-meteoric-rise-in-ceo-compensation-how-executive-pay-surged-over-1000-since-1978/

The republican problem is a severe lack of imagination. You think kicking out Isabella means you get her slice of the pie. You'll discover soon enough it was a shit sandwich.

It is curious though that the Trumps and Tates have no leftist counterparts. Where is Super Mario? His righteous brother has fallen. Really thought you guys were onto something there for a second.
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Republicans are sheep man. So you're going kick out your carers, your service workers, your shitty manual labourers. And somehow you're all the richer for it. Rich and working the shitty jobs that these people used to work, because somebody has to.  And all of this presided over by that smug billionaire class, front and center at Trump's inauguration.  You all think you're so cool and manly and un-PC and whatever other rubbish. You got all these charismatic weirdos leading the charge, a revolutionary spirit in it, Isabella who changes your parents diapers at their nursing home doesn't know what's coming for her. 

Wrong target.
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Barney - Final AMA?
Do you find you can keep up with women's sexual appetites? I cannot. Serious question now. It's hard to keep it from feeling like a chore. Sometimes I feel like I'm prostituting myself for clean laundry and home cooking. 
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What Character On What Show Do People Say You Look Like?
I get Paul Mescal every other day tbh. Michael Fassbender an odd time. My mom gives me Tom Cruise who she's a total fanboy for in general which is probably my fave. I don't look like him though.

I'm probably a fairly handsome guy but I look like a bum. 
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I mean you gotta put in some bit of effort, but it does seem to me at least that a beautiful well-formed weighty cock will earn you a hall pass on a lot of the work. I swear 90% of the time my girlfriend tells me I'm beautiful, she has my cock on her hand. I've called her on it too, but if it means I get to just lie there I am happy enough.
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Maybe that's a weird question. I feel a bit like this guy sometimes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP73zv5I5OM

Every love song is a lie. Just shit bitches want to hear. 

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What do you do to keep fit?
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Was also gonna ask the dick question.

Do you feel fulfilled in life? I mean total fulfillment. In any aspect of your life. No part of you doubting it at all.
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Tricked how btw?
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@Barney
Saved some lives while I was a medic.
About as good an answer as you're gonna get. Well done mate.

Ok worst thing you've ever done?
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What's the best thing you've ever done?
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Next election in the states : history in the making
The true strength and tyranny of religion is in its simplicity which emboldens retards like this guy. The bible might as well be called Politics for Dummies.
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I reRead animal farm recently, and I had some thoughts
Orwell's fiction was at all times scathing. He's calling the Russians pigs, not much more to it than that. They sullied noble ideas. 

1984 also is pure mockery of Brave New World. I can't remember it now, but I drew it all up once. The book is a caricature of Brave New World which he clearly thought was masturbatory bullshit.

I loved him as an author when I was feeling my first socialist fire tbh. 
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The guy who threatens civil war or to shoot people every other post. Fiddles with his pets. Dead kids are a small price to pay for his wackadoodle beliefs. You might as well be the loon who just tried to assassinate Trump.

Gp I have absolutely no need of any endorsement from you.

Just baffles me man. You're always giving out about your cultural problems. You two are homegrown American, I'll tell you that much.
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I was about to wind it back in a bit, but you got that dopey post in ahead of me. Whatever man.
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The sad last resort of the right to pretend you enjoy people thinking you're dirt.

"Haha! Triggered! We disgust people!"

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Don't you ever think "Wow, I really am a piece of shit"?
Just shut the fuck up already you dumb piece of shit. Nobody here thinks you have an IRL. You're here 6 hours a day every day. The rest of it you're eating and watching retarded youtube videos. 60 year old man. Find a bridge club or something and fuck off already.
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@Greyparrot
Lol, I actually walked about most of today helping my nephew with a charity race. Not to get too specific on the exact disability charity because there are some insane doxxers on this site.
Lie. What are you, on a campaign trail?

Most of that is playing forum Mafia.
Who is this lie even for? You have 2, 3 and 5 times the posts of the actual mafia players on here. You don't post in mafia games. You're invited to fill games.

I really don't care what a counter says. It seems to bother you for some reason. Maybe we can ask Barney to swap our post counts? I don't want to see you suffer sober.
You're an eyesore. A hateful wart growing in every thread on this website. It just grosses me out tbh. I don't get how a human being can call that a life. Don't you ever think "Wow, I really am a piece of shit"?

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Now that is funny. My girlfriend is getting out of college soon, gonna go meet her and walk the dog. Maybe get dinner and some drinks after. You make another 25,000 shitbrain posts here thinking you're winning. 
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You're pathetic mate.
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The trans women are turning on gp and he doesn't like it.
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@rbelivb
The gang's all back together. Good to see you buddy. 

Hey I want a shout out in the dedications page when you write the next cornerstone socio-political treatise. 
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oro is such a nerd. But he's a good guy. 
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I only wanted to highlight the extent of his shamelessness. We can carry on with his dopey posts.
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