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@billbatard

"you are engaged in wishful thinking the human brain evolved to spot patterns"

I can not understand why people believe in evolution. If i leave my flip phone in my dresser for a billion years it is not going to turn into a brand knew iPhone.
How can something be patterned if god did not exist. By definition it is something a god would do.

"patterned definition: with a design made from repeated lines, shapes, or colours on the surface"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/patterned

The serval has the same design on both her ears. They are symmetrical. He did what the definition above states. I did not know about your believes in god. On how you logically think there could be a god.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10iJpm5ix0BZHXwOMYS1Q9TOW7X_cV4apOOJ-b0AQuwg/edit

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@billbatard

He wanted free will. But he rewards of if we do good. Like giving to other's can help with many illness diseases. They do not know why.

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@billbatard

because it is not random.

If something changes my blood pressure it has the random chance of changing it to any level. Lets say a good blood pressure is 75. But lets say i eat a Pizza. This pizza changes my blood pressure randomly to lets say 120. now my blood pressure is to high and i might die.

But lets say i eat a herb and it precisely dial my blood pressure back to 75. THIS IS Not random. It knew that 75 was a healthy number and precisely dialed it to 75. That's intelligent. Plants are not intelligent.So why does it have this effect. it must be the one creating the herb that created it to precisely dial it. God put the numbers in the plant

If nothing created life blood pressure herbs would work like pizza.
Pizza changes my blood pressure randomly to 120 110 100 90 80 70 60. It can change my blood pressure to any of these numbers. it has a low chance of changing it to the healthy number like 75. It has a very low chance of changing the blood pressure to a level that would help me like 75. But i eat a plant and it precisely dials it to 75. It somehow knew it would be good level of blood pressure. I think god did it

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@billbatard

I disagree

you can see the intelligent choices he made by observing the creatures and plants that he made. That's what all my debate's on animal color and medicine plants try to show.

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@billbatard

I sure god created lightning and stuff so he could do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWL1CRRQAqI

He punishes people with heatwaves and stuff. If you observe the universe everything has a purpose.if we do not know the purpose we will find out later that it does like the appendix. It takes a certain understanding to relies that it is absolutely absurd that humans just came into existence randomly

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@billbatard

being precise is proof of god because it is not random

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@billbatard

Earth is special Planets and other space stuff have been precisely placed in order to protect the earth from stuff like asteroid dangerous sun rays etc.

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@Nemiroff

"Those mushrooms help prevent illness due to being excellent sources of nutrition"

no your Wrong. Ignore the obviose Illuminati symbol.

"mushrooms suggest that these "magic mushrooms" wire different parts of the brain together, facilitating a much smoother communication between its various parts"

It rewired the brain. This is not simply it is good for you
http://www.evolveandascend.com/2017/04/25/top-7-amazing-health-benefits-of-psilocybin-mushrooms/

"The main ingredient in psilocybin mushrooms, psilocybin, empowered the mice to get over their fear and promoted new neurons growth and regeneration in their brains."

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@Nemiroff

look at your source. Stop making a fool of yourself.
It says herbs are unregulated and they interact with your beloved prescription medication.

Apple kill cancer cells
https://www.naturalhealth365.com/benefits-of-apples-cancer-cells-1469.html

Apple have like tons of different medical properties in them. That treat hundreds of disease
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-health-benefits-of-apples

They help with the bones

they help with the heart

They regulate your cholesterol


Apple can repair dna.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fruits-vegetables-boost-dna-repair/

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@Nemiroff

During the Civil war the Republican abe Lincoln ended slavery and the democrats were pro slavery and helped the south.

"Abraham Lincoln elected president. Abraham Lincoln is elected the 16th president of the United States over a deeply divided Democratic Party, becoming the first Republican to win the presidency. Lincoln received only 40 percent of the popular vote but handily defeated the three other candidates: Southern Democrat John C."

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/abraham-lincoln-elected-president

You keep comparing modern republicans to past republicans

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@Nemiroff

Apples are a medical plant.no drug counterpart. Plants do not have the same side effects as there prescription medication counterparts.
I eat medical mushrooms all the time so fungus are no probs. They do not cause thoughts of suicide yellow skin and eyes. dude just stop

Why do i not suffer side effects from lion mane mushrooms.

Why do i not suffer side effects from reishi mushrooms

why do i not suffer side effects from shiitake mushrooms

etc 4 other mushrooms. I do not suffer from thoughts of suicide or changes in behavior because they do not cause that. Almost if not all drug causes thoughts of suicide. So surly by your logic almost every plant should cause thoughts of suicide

https://www.healthrangerstore.com/collections/smoothies-1/products/organic-seven-treasures-mushroom-powder-3-5oz-100g

You can store some of these herbs for years. without them going bad

"The plants that are used as medications have many side effects,"

If taken with a prescription drug. They do not have the same side effect as prescription drugs.

Your article says

You can not eat the medical plant known as chocolate because it interacts with medication

Alcohol interacts with medication

Coffey interacts with medication.

vitamin k because now almost every vegetable on the planet interacts with your medication.

everything i eat interacts with medication.

chamomile interacts with. Sleepy tea taste great btw

feverfew.

all the other herbs ginseng. Does not specify which ginseng just all of them apparently

Dairy interacts with medication. Why do i not die when i eat herbs

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@Ramshutu

I made a mistake

"This is the entire reason why i created the debate. to find out how nothing can create life."

Reword it to the entire reason why i created this debate was to find out how nothing can create anything

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Good luck

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Just so were are clear you are telling me how it formed naturally not how it works.

For example lets say a crystal protects you from wireless signals. I say god did this.And you say no the rock sends off magnetic field that blocks WiFi signals. in this example you did not prove that it formed naturally but merely told me how the rock works.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

Alright

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@OoDart

You are addressing something that i have been trying to say for years. all planets move in elliptical and are all conveniently round.sun and moon are both round. All the planets are round. I say god did this. They say it is because of gravity.The laws of physics have something to do with it to. I responds by saying god used gravity the reason why the laws of physics state everything must be perfect is because god is a lawmaker. you did not prove that it formed naturally. you just describe the details of my statement.

me
All planets are round all and move in an elliptical

Atheist
Gravity makes planets round and the laws of physics Issac nutan discovered says they must go in an elliptical.

So you agree with me. you just repeated what i said

Even though your not saying there is proof that he did it. your just saying there is no reason why he could not be the one to create it. While i am saying there is reason why he is the one who created it.

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@billbatard

Because demons muddied the water's.Demons started calling themselfs Gods for ego reasons. it is like if my boss at worked forced me to refer to him as master and they created all these religions so people would not know which one is right.

Here is all the religions that the quote on quote angle Gabriel made
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/2j76pc/the_angel_gabriel_sure_does_seem_to_start_a_lot/

"The Angel Gabriel sure does seem to start a lot of Religions"

The guy goes on and say's there are so many religions. How do we know which one is right. But that was the demons plan he created all these religions so people would think they must be all false because there are so many. there all So stupid.

Bible says demons masquerade as being of light if i recall.It also says if i recall to test every spirit to say if they say the truth.

This deals with the spaghetti monster ideology to.

similarly how people believe that believe in jesus us like believing in santa.

Santa is just satan rearranged.

both are depicted with red

Santa last name is claws.

The greatest lie the devil ever told was convincing the world he never existed.

All these ideology like the believing in Jesus is like believing in Santa or spaghetti monster and so many religions which one is right. All have evidence that these ideology were created by demons.

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@Nemiroff

plants have the same medical properties. the bootlegged drug version is the only one with side effects. Why don't people who eat apple suffer from yellow skin and eyes. Stop being a fool

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@Nemiroff

"So, no thank you to plants and frog glands. I'll stick to pills, especially with the same exact side effects"

this is false

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@Nemiroff

That source does not say the side effects in prescription drugs are the same side effects in plants. It says plants interact with drugs

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@Nemiroff

Plants do not have the same side effects as prescription drugs. They interact because they do the same thing.

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@billbatard

If morals are just a concept made up by man. Why do they effect us biologically. If god is man made why did every culture in the world come up with the same idea.

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@TheRealNihilist

????

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@Nemiroff

Where did this pride stem from your last post was not that good?

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@Nemiroff

After years of debating. One easily finds himself procrastinating

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@billbatard

If life was created randomly. Life would be random. If life was created by a god it would be proportioned. Since life is proportioned God created it

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@billbatard

It proves life is not random. But god proportioned everything. I believe i can prove god by just measuring limbs. deformity are from mutation. I believe these measurements are in the DNA. DNA is a storage device for information. I believe the information God put in the storage device was measurements.

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@Dynasty

thank u

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@billbatard

I know that is considered fact but i think there wrong given the reason below. Us being clean freaks had more to do with it two.

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@billbatard

we did not die in our 20s and 30s in the 1800 because lack of medicine. We died in the 20s because we were shooting each other in the streets.

they had the same medicine except there was not a bootlegged version.

70 percent of the drugs created today come from plants. Indians and ancient china used plants as medicine. so they have 70 percent of modern medicine. except there did not cause yellow skin and eyes

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2635/reishi-mushrooms

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@TheRealNihilist

I did not know he said you were mean. i just assumed he was an atheist.

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@TheRealNihilist

Why you being mean to Speadracer. from past interactions it appears he mostly agree's with you guys ? I did not expect him to do a debate like this

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This reminds me of this video.
https://youtu.be/-JMF6hkOnmY

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open challenge

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I am a simple man. Just want to know how an explosion can create something.

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@Nemiroff

https://youtu.be/ogSttUF9mbo?t=55

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@Nemiroff

it seems There is no right answer. A lot of scientist believe it was an explosion. Some believe it was a supernova. Right now i am arguing against the people who think it was an explosion. not the supernova

Big bang came from nothing According to most articles i find. Now they may say it could be something else but there is just as many scientist who say it came from nothing as well as something. if it did not come from nothing then it was not the beginning of the universe

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@Nemiroff

ok how can explosions or supernova create anything from nothing

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The debate is explosions can only destroy. I can easily prove this

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@Nemiroff

OK your still saying an explosion created life.

explosion created your chemicals. Then the chemicals turned into life

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"We believed that universe started with an explosion. This explosion is called Big Bang. According to the Big Bang theory, at the very beginning, there was nothing but a point. In this point was matter densely packed in a very hot state. It exploded and the universe sprang to life and it is now expanding, thanks to that explosion!"

https://factslegend.org/big-bounce-not-big-bang-created-universe/

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If an explosion from nothing created chemicals that turned into bug things for some reason. your still saying it created life

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@Nemiroff

then what did the big bang do. What did the explosion create. Explosions can not create anything. All i have to do is prove explosions can only destroy

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@Nemiroff

https://youtu.be/ogSttUF9mbo?t=55

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@Nemiroff

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090623010308AA82zSt

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@Nemiroff

"Scientists believe that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang"

https://www.everystudent.com/wires/universe.html

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@Nemiroff

The one science believe created life

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@zedvictor4

I would love my own category.

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If you mean't about the current picture. Umm she a little beaten up

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ok i hate 1940 imagery that is black and white. I hate 1980s hairstyle. i dislike cars.

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