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It is definitely a specialty role not meant for inclusion in your generic games; you have to build a game around it.
As Bullish notes, this is a setup that is very swingy for that reason: President can die in an instant. That's not a reason not to do it, it is just something people need to accept when having a role like this.
Most set-ups with Presidents also have bombs which introduces a hell of a lot of WIFOM because the Bombs want the Maf to think they are President and get killed.
You can add some day-killing abilities as well to make things very interesting.
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@OntologicalSpider
At this point I'm just repeating myself.
wouldn't I be learning basically the skeleton of a language
That's how you naturally learn a language.
When you were 3, and said, "I is a boy" a parent likely corrected you and said, "No, I *am* a boy" and you dutifully repeated them. They very likely didn't sit you down and explain to you about verb subject agreement and the difference between "is" and "am" and the conjugation of verbs.
They taught you how to "form the sequence" and that was written into your brain.
Repeat that enough times with enough different examples and, poof, you have learned the language.
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@OntologicalSpider
Except you can't give a said rule book to someone without them learning the meaning. That's exactly how people learn languages. They are exposed to the "rules" naturally without anyone ever explaining to them the meaning behind the words (indeed, they can't, because they don't yet know a language).
The process of giving someone a book of rules for how to sequence sentences is the process of learning a language.
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The problem with this "conundrum" is that it completely glosses over what it means to have and use a "complete list of instructions."
I would argue that it is the list of instructions that gives you meaning into what those symbols mean. That is, after all, how we learn language natively. I say it would be impossible to give a computer such an instruction list in a way that isn't equivalent to teaching it said language in the first place.
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Zaradi - 6/4 - Supa, Speed, Grey, Zaradi, Pie, Sir
VTNL - Ragnar
The Day Phase has ended and votes have been locked.
The Twilight Phase begins. It will last 24 hours or when all Twilight applicable actions have been submitted.
The results of the Day Phase will be revealed at the end of the Twilight Phase.
NO TALKING.
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Zaradi - 5/4 - Supa, Speed, Grey, Zaradi, Pie
VTNL - Ragnar
Not Voting: Sir
There are about 36 hours remaining in the day phase.
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Zaradi - 5/4 - Supa, Speed, Grey, Zaradi, Pie
Not Voting: Sir, Ragnar
There are less than 48 hours remaining in the day phase.
Ragnar has previously indicated he would be inactive this weekend. His activity should increase starting tomorrow.
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Zaradi - 4/4 - Supa, Speed, Grey, Zaradi
Not Voting: Sir, Ragnar, Pie
There are less than 48 hours remaining in the day phase.
Ragnar has previously indicated he would be inactive this weekend. His activity should increase starting tomorrow.
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Sir - 1/4 - Zaradi
Zaradi - 3/4 - Supa, Speed, Grey
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Sir - 1/4 - Zaradi
Zaradi - 2/4 - Supa, Speed
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Ragnar - 2/4 - Singularity's Spirit, Speed
Sir - 1/4 - Zaradi
Zaradi - 1/4 - Supa
Pie - 1/4 - Grey
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Ragnar - 2/4 - Singularity's Spirit, Speed
Sir - 1/4 - Zaradi
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Ragnar - 1/4 - Singularity's Spirit
Sir - 1/4 - Zaradi
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
Three to get ready, and four to go!
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@Barney
@Vader
@SirAnonymous
@Zaradi
One for the money, two for the show...
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All Roles taken from here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pFVyzYrrc2kkwkX60hMmmTeYrM0bC3LejPCYtLZ9cQ/edit
Important note: I end DPs and judge activity by votes. DP only ends when there is a majority lynch AND everyone is voting -OR- due to time limit. If DP ends due to time limit, non-voting players are ejected into the sun. If there is an available replacement, they will be replaced. Otherwise they just get mod-killed.
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Water:
You are SUI. You formed a majority alliance at a key point in the game, turning the tide for those alligned with you.You are a 1x MASON. Each night, you and the other masons visit another player and convert them into a MASON. You will all die if that person is Mafia.(This is the role PM verbatim, but you are 1x meaning you get to mason one person and convert them into a mason, but can't recruit beyond that).You win with the Town.
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oromagia - SPEED - TURNCOAT - TOWN
Singularity - PRESS - RESTLESS SPIRIT - TOWN
Living Players
1. Ragnar
2. SirAnon
3. SupaDudz
4. Zaradi
5. GreyParrot
6. Speedrace
7. ILikePie
With 7 players, it takes 4 votes to lynch. This DP will end by 8:00 pm (EST) on 1/21/2020.
IMPORTANT MOD NOTE: With the RESTLESS SPIRIT ability there are more votes than there are living players, meaning it is possible for more than one person to get enough votes needed to lynch. At the end of the DP, ALL players with enough votes needed to lynch will be lynched.
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The Twilight Phase has ended!
Singularity was lynched!
You are PRESS. You were the first person voted out to be on the Jury and decide the final winner.You are the RESTLESS SPIRIT. While dead, you may visit another player each night. During the following Day Phase, you will have a vote placed on that player.
The Night Phase has begun. It will end in 48 hours or when all actions have been submitted!
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Singularity - 6/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Zaradi, Sir, Water
Pie - 1/5 - Pie
Ragnar - 2/5 - Speed, Singularity
The Day Phase has ended and votes have been locked.
The Twilight Phase begins. It will last 24 hours or when all Twilight applicable actions have been submitted.
The results of the Day Phase will be revealed at the end of the Twilight Phase.
NO TALKING.
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Singularity - 5/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Zaradi, Sir
Pie - 1/5 - Pie
Ragnar - 2/5 - Speed, Singularity
Note Voting: Water
There is less than 6 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@WaterPhoenix
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Singularity - 4/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Zaradi
Pie - 1/5 - Pie
Ragnar - 2/5 - Speed, Singularity
Note Voting: Water, Sir
There is less than 6 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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Singularity - 4/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Zaradi
Pie - 1/5 - Pie
Ragnar - 2/5 - Speed, Singularity
Note Voting: Water, Sir
There is less than 9 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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Singularity - 4/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Zaradi
Pie - 2/5 - Pie, Singularity
Ragnar - 1/5 - Speed
Note Voting: Water, Sir
There is less than 9 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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Singularity - 5/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Speed, Zaradi
Pie - 2/5 - Pie, Singularity
Note Voting: Water, Sir
There is less than 9 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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Singularity - 4/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Speed
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
Pie - 2/5 - Pie, Singularity
Note Voting: Water, Sir
There is less than 11 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@SirAnonymous
Am I still allowed to change my vote, or is it too late now that Singularity got hammered?
You are still allowed to change your vote. Votes are only locked or semi-locked when all players have voted.
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Singularity - 5/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Sir, Speed
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
Pie - 2/5 - Pie, Singularity
Note Voting: Water
There is less than 13 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@WaterPhoenix
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 5/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Sir, Speed
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
Pie - 1/5 - Pie
Note Voting: Water
There is less than 13 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 5/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Sir, Speed
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
Note Voting: Water, ILikePie
There is less than 13 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@ILikePie5
@WaterPhoenix
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Ragnar - 2/5 - Singularity, Speed
Singularity - 4/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa, Sir
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
Note Voting: Water, ILikePie
There is less than 14 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
@SirAnonymous
@Zaradi
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 3/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa
Note Voting: SirAnon, Zaradi, Speedrace, Water, ILikePie
There is less than 24 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
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@Singularity
What is the win condition for town?
To eliminate all Mafia and other non-Town factions that cannot joint win with Town before they achieve their win condition.
Like if it comes down to 2 mafia and 2 town and one mafia is hated, than would this still be game over because town does not have a majority?
Correct. The Mafia win condition is to be 50% or more of the remaining players.
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 3/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa
Note Voting: SirAnon, Zaradi, Speedrace, Water, ILikePie
About 37 hours remaining.
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 2/5 - Grey, Ragnar
GreyParrot - 1/5 - Supa
Note Voting: SirAnon, Zaradi, Speedrace, Water, ILikePie
About 38 hours remaining.
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Please do not PM other players about statements made in the game (even if it is not "about" the game itself). Wait until after the game.
Please do not rely on behavior on external sites to make in game decisions.
This is a general warning to all.
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Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 2/5 - Grey, Supa
Note Voting: Ragnar, SirAnon, Zaradi, Speedrace, Water, ILikePie
About 48 hours remaining.
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GreyParrot - 1/5 - Supa
Ragnar - 2/5 - Grey, Singularity
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
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GreyParrot - 1/5 - Supa
Ragnar - 1/5 - Grey
Supa - 1/5 - Zaradi
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
I said: Boom shaka boom
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@Barney
@Vader
@SirAnonymous
@Zaradi
@Singularity
Boom shaka boom
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All Roles taken from here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pFVyzYrrc2kkwkX60hMmmTeYrM0bC3LejPCYtLZ9cQ/edit
Important note: I end DPs and judge activity by votes. DP only ends when there is a majority lynch AND everyone is voting -OR- due to time limit. If DP ends due to time limit, non-voting players are ejected into the sun. If there is an available replacement, they will be replaced. Otherwise they just get mod-killed.
Killed in the Night
No One
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oromagia - SPEED - TURNCOAT - TOWN
Living Players
1. Ragnar
2. SirAnon
3. Singularity
4. SupaDudz
5. Zaradi
6. GreyParrot
7. Speedrace
8. Water
9. ILikePie
With 9 players, it takes 5 votes to lynch. This DP will end by 9:30 pm (EST) on 1/17/2020.
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@ebuc
The evolution of resistance to DDT is complex and arises for a number of reasons.
For example, it could be as a result of additional copies of a key gene that allows them to produce enzymes which assist in breaking down DDT. This would be simple to complex (more genes = more complex).
However, resistance can also be had by reducing the number of bioreceptors that react to DDT. This would be complex to simple (less receptors = less complex).
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@ebuc
Drafterman, is that simple-to-complex, complex-to-simple or lateral evolution?
You'd have to define "simple" and "complex"? What makes a genetic change more or less complex?
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@ebuc
The only direct observations we have of evolution is with bacteria.
Incorrect.
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