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If you aren't rbed and only if you're town which we don't know. From an outside perspective, you don't present any better choice: you'll incriminate or exonerate someone and someone will cc. It'll still be a Sophie's choice

And that's all I'm saying, is that there is a non zero chance. You are being awfully defensive for someone whom no one is scum reading or accusing.

Also, just because a combo might be OP doesn't mean it isn't the case. Mods make lop sided games all the time. But that's not even a judgement you can make in game.

I agree you are the most objective townie player. It's a shame you haven't been more active.

inb4 - well if singularity stops the NK we know he is confirmed. Unless mafia waives the kill for that purpose.

You could be Godfather or lawyer target.

My point is, tomorrow it's still going to be Singularity vs Water. Exactly nothing else will have changed.

Assuming bullish is town. And we don't know if Supa equivocates vanilla with goon. Just too many variables here to be meaningful.

Help us oromagi, you're our only hope.

Vote.

It still is a policy. It's just no one follows it and no one ever really did.

And escort could be a maf role.

Except they'll just kill you or oro and we'll be in the same position tomorrow

It's just a simple acknowledgement that GPs inno on you isn't infallible 

Hammer this dood

No you aren't and it's slightly scummy you'd insist that

I think there is a silencer. Which is a lame role to have in forum mafia.

Get in here and vote

lol, you did it all wrong.

Lynch in that order and we win

So then it's down to Singularity, Lunatic, and Bullish/Oro

Oh, that. Yes.

Pie's stated action makes sense both as mafia or town, so it's a wash either way.

And Pie actually hasn't been role confirmed.

I'm not getting lynched today or tomorrow.

That is a possibility, yes.

Water already full claimed - Token Vanilla.

And early on too. He was like the second person to claim.

I am fairly certain that Single and Lunatic are scum.

After that, then I agree that it is down to you or oro.

You could have been scum trying to get town cred by confirming oro while at the same time fishing for his role.

Alternatively you could be town and Supa has vanilla = goon.

We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

It's mylo, but they'll probably just kill Pie or Oro and things really won't change.

It does, yeah. All in all Supa is doing some weird stuff with the roles here. Suicide bomber is almost always a maf role.

I can't believe I overlooked this last DP:

Depending on what Singularity is as mafia, having a real doctor or watcher out themselves might be worth the trade, especially if you argue that it isn't a true CC, only an overlap.

Also, with only one active role claimed (Grey as Cop) and a bunch of vanillas, then mafia is really controlling the visits. As long as you watch Grey (which he did) then you will know - as mafia - whether or not anyone else visited him.

Of course, that's assuming he isn't actually a watcher which he totally could be as maf. It would make a lot of sense of be a maf watcher + rber joat. After all, no one claimed to be roleblocked N1 when Singularity claims to have watched grey, but then grey (whom Singularity admits to have visited) claimed to be roleblocked N2.

His wording and play is off. In D2, he says "no one tried to kill grey." That's an odd claim from a watcher. As watcher, you don't know what anyone was trying to do, only that they visited your target. Even if he wasn't watcher and was BSing a report, if anyone came in and contradicted him, he could potentially weasel out of a CC, e.g, "I didn't say no one visited him, I said no one tried to kill him."

Lastly, the stuff with him trying to CC Speed as the NK target because he "protected" Grey is extremely suspect. Just because there wasn't an NK when you protected someone doesn't mean that it was because of that protection.

Find, let's start again:

Dude, his question is tantamount to "prove science."

Re-reading DP1 and it's painfully clear that Water is town.

I think it's singularity and lunatic is one of HIS scum partners 

I'm leaning to the singularity side. I just need to get to work to review somethings.

It's mylo, inclination is to NL

I've been thinking about Bullish's claim, too. As written, the three roles you are provided are roles that are actually in the game, but no one has claimed vig or doctor.

But that could be an implementation issue.

Bullish didn't confirm Oro. His role could be maf sided and he used Oro to narrow down his own results. Bullish being scum doesn't make Oro scum

No one's buying your arguments so there's really no point in responding to them.

Right I listed it as a reason why to lynch one scum over another scum. Not as a reason that somebody is scum to begin with.

I'm just pointing out that your actions are neither nice, nor charitable.

And I talk to you because you actually exist and ate here. God can show up whenever she chooses.

Are you joking or can you just not read? That's not what I said at all.

I see no benefit to me simply copying and pasting information from one place to another. The arguments are there if you are truly interested in having a conversation about it.

I am not asking you to have a conversation with a website, I'm asking you to have a conversation with me about information that happens to be contained on a website.

Do you have any questions or objections you would like to raise to me about that information?

Correct. Ergo you actually are neither nice nor charitable.

Tell me someone that has done something scummy.

Because active scum is worse than inactive scum. And Luna is more annoying.