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@Speedrace
No, because if they thought you'd roleblock me, then killing someone would clear me.
It would make it less likely that I'm scum, never said it would clear me
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@Speedrace
If you’re argument is that, as scum you wouldn’t have performed the nk, then the fact that a night kill happened when I role blocked you would t clear you, would it?
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@Speedrace
Still doesn't make sense. If you're most suss then you're the obvious mislynch target whether they kill or not. It'd be objectively better for them to kill and push for your mislynch at LYLO, where Lunatic can't use his ability and Town has to lynch versus not killing and hoping I just happened to roleblock you and push your mislynch when Lunatic can just over turn it.
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@Speedrace
Lunatic can overturn it to a NL. They literally can't force a lynch while he's alive.
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@Tradesecret
Colleges used to teach people how to think. Now they seem to be teaching them how not to think. (Or what to think)
What did you base this opinion on?
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@Speedrace
If you were most sussed, why weren't you lynched?
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@Greyparrot
It's interesting to see if they'll continue to pursue it if they can't get it done before the 20th.
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Objectively scum wouldn't forfeit the kill because they'd prefer it to be LYLO rather than MYLO, where Lunatic can't make use of his ability (assuming Lunatic is Town).
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@Speedrace
I wouldn't have because I would've been worried about getting roleblocked by you, and everyone sussed me per the logic because everyone bought into it. My evidence? You literally RBd me
That's post hoc logic. Show from the last phase where it is evident I would have roleblocked you.
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@Speedrace
So you couldn't have performed the kill because warren sussed you?
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@ILikePie5
Speed: "Why would I do the kill when I was the most sussed? :|"
For the record, Pie, ^^^ that's WIFOM
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@fauxlaw
The first amendment absolutely gives companies like Twitter the right to censor content on their platform.
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@Lunatic
Gonna need a claim from you. Not gonna vote you since a quick hammer could happen if one other person votes, but I am assuming you will claim without a vote.
Why are you worried about a quick hammer if you can change it to a NL?
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@ethang5
You ignored the "trial by combat" part. Address that one.
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This single-term president is the only president in history to be impeached twice, following his incitement of an insurrection attempt the Capitol building on January 6th, 2021.
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@Lunatic
I don't recall specifically, but it sounds consistent.
VTL Pie
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@Lunatic
Actually, we should lynch you and you overturn to Pie
VTL Pie
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Roleblocker is null, it is neither town sided nor scum decided. It is affiliation neutral. Why are you acting like you've never played this game before?
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@ILikePie5
Because if you are going to have a reason to suspect me, I'd prefer that reason to be rooted in rationality. Nothing I've done has invoked WIFOM, so WIFOM is no reason to vote me.
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@ILikePie5
I'm not WIFOMing anything, ILikePie. You're misusing the term.
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I'm on board with getting rid of warren or whiteflame so I won't mix them up again.
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@whiteflame
I'm null on it. We don't know what the theme is yet but I think Speed's claim is closer to my own and I'm town. Lunatic can confirm himself allegedly. So I'd rather just get you.
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@whiteflame
I find it odd that you're suddenly targeting me. You got a character claim from Speed. You have one from me as well. Are you pushing for a role claim from me, and if so, why are you refusing to push for the same on Speed?
I buy speed's claim.
"Defacing currency" is one of those things that is technically a crime but no one is really obeys it and no one is really ever arrested, charged, or convicted for it. It's a crime no one really treats like a crime.
As part of my own PM fluff, Bullish notes that prostitution is a crime that many don't think should be a crime. I see this as building on a theme of sorts: crimes that aren't/shouldn't really be crimes.
This puts an FOS back on Lunatic somewhat, as I doubt Bullish thinks corruption/bribery shouldn't be a crime and most people would agree it should be a crime. But I'm mainly back on you for the behavior early this DP.
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@Danielle
This lacks context. People added to your wagon cuz you refused to claim after saying your role wasn't that useful to town.
People wanting my claim should have voted Lunatic, as that was the offerred way to get my claim. People voting me were wanting me to die, specifically. That's the difference.
And if it's true that nobody was online (I wasn't) then no votes on Speed isn't noteworthy at all, so why note it?
Because it's always noteworthy to note who votes or doesn't vote whom.
Speed had 3/5 votes on him from you + Luna and whiteflame so I'd hardly call that crickets given the activity level in this game so far. But please clarify: if you believe nobody is voting Speed because he might be scum, then why are you voting for whiteflame who is one of two people joining you on voting for Speed?
Because scum can vote scum? I'm inclined to accept Speed's claim regardless.
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> votes on drafterman: everyone piles on; almost mishammered
> votes on speed: crickets
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@Speedrace
Ah, so I have a role only mafia would pick up on.
And you picked up on it.
Vtl speed
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@Speedrace
You didn't answer the question. Why would the mafia NK me as opposed to doing something else?
Literally already did
Ok, going all the way back to the beginning of the phase, it rests solely on the fact mafia didn't NK. Which only raises the unanswered question.
I received no messages, which is not to say I wasn't driven, redirected, or roleblocked. And still doesn't address that if I was so obviously this uber powerful town role mafia would be wary of killing me because I would likely be a protection target.
Mafia choice if NK is very very flimsy and mafia will deliberately make counter intuitive choices to distract town.
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@Speedrace
Why should I have died?Because you strongly hinted at a power role
And why would that make me the target of the NK as opposed to being driven, redirected, or roleblocked? If I hinted at this uber powerful role as you imply, that also means I should have been a target for Town protective roles which discourages mafia NK
He doesn't have any behavioral reads. Inactivity isn't a behavioral read because it has nothing to do with my affiliation. And he retracted it."lack of interest in moving things forward struck me as odd because he seems to be the type to want to move things along. I know it wasn't just him, but I hold him to a higher standard."
"I'll take drafter's excuse that he was busy last day phase, though I wish he would have said so last day phase."
So, instead of parroting someone else's logic that has been retracted, what are your own-formed reads on me? I mean the person you're blindly sheeping isn't even voting me.
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@Speedrace
I think that you should've died last night and you didn't.
Why should I have died?
And I agree with Luna's behavioral reads
He doesn't have any behavioral reads. Inactivity isn't a behavioral read because it has nothing to do with my affiliation. And he retracted it.
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@Bullish
Has That1 been pinged for activity? If not can we get one?
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@Danielle
I'm less bothered by it after talking it out with Pie, plus Lunatic has claimed he has a day-confirmable role, but seems to be waiting for the right time to do it. Unless there are people that want to force him to use it to confirm himself I really don't see viability in pushing the issue at the moment.
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@ILikePie5
All you have against me is WIFOM which is null. What specifically pushes me as scum in your eyes?
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I gave my justification already and I I vote lunatic because I got what I wanted.
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@ILikePie5
Ok, so what? The point of this game is that the thing you are is actually a crime. Would you buy "aggravation" as a crime?
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