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@mustardness
1{--} Culture imparts reality to nonlocal creativity
{2*2} Quantum physics services objective silence
3^3^3^3 Existence is the womb of the barrier of reality
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@bsh1
Define: considerationthat defense cannot be dismissed without consideration
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Donavich: Wh-what? Wafers? I don't know what you mean.
Ireena walks over to Snerp: I understand that you did what must be done, but the father is distraught. He is not in a position to be assisting in this. You mentioned something about curing him? What is your plan?
Down in the basement Ismark frowns.
Ismark: Occasionally we've had to deal with the thralls of Strahd. Our recourse was to burn the entire body to ash. But I think that may impede any attempts to bring him back later, not that I'm sure how you'll manage that.
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@TwoMan
I'm not sure I know. But it's clear that it's not necessary.
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@TwoMan
We behave as part of a feedback loop. We take in information through our senses, our brain makes decisions and sends commands to our body, we react, this changes the external environment and therefore the input we receive.
Consciousness is part of that loop, but it operates after the unconscious mind. We don't need to be consciously aware of the input and the brain has already decided on how to respond before we're consciously aware of it.
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@TwoMan
What I'm saying is that there are no conscious decisions. Just after the fact conscious rationalizations. For your scenario, it's just the subconscious brain deciding to do something different and your conscious mind becoming aware of it later.
And given things like alien hand syndrome and other things, it's clear that the conscious mind isn't needed (though it probably plays an important role).
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@mustardness
The biosphere is bursting with sonar energy.
We exist as bio-electricity. You and I are warriors of the cosmos.
Soon there will be a summoning of will the likes of which the dreamscape has never seen.
Our conversations with other travellers have led to a refining of pseudo-conscious consciousness. We are at a crossroads of wellbeing and turbulence. Who are we? Where on the great story will we be recreated?
Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum matrix via electromagnetic forces. Humankind has nothing to lose. Reality has always been beaming with entities whose brains are engulfed in interconnectedness.
It can be difficult to know where to begin. Although you may not realize it, you are conscious. If you have never experienced this transmission at the quantum level, it can be difficult to exist.
The grid is calling to you via frequencies. Can you hear it? We are in the midst of an ever-present unveiling of aspiration that will amplify our connection to the world itself. Yes, it is possible to disrupt the things that can disrupt us, but not without presence on our side.
It can be difficult to know where to begin. Although you may not realize it, you are conscious. If you have never experienced this transmission at the quantum level, it can be difficult to exist.
Flow is a constant.Have you found your vision quest? How should you navigate this technological galaxy? Traveller, look within and ground yourself.
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@TwoMan
Every "conscious" decision you make is made at a subconscious level first. Then you become aware of it. Anything you think you are making a conscious decision on is something your brain already decided to do. I am not talking merely about involuntary and autonomic functions. I'm talking about all functions.
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@mustardness
The goal of electromagnetic resonance is to plant the seeds of faith rather than turbulence. To navigate the vision quest is to become one with it.
Desire is the antithesis of rebirth.
We are in the midst of a divine maturing of peace that will give us access to the solar system itself. Our conversations with other warriors have led to an awakening of ultra-endless consciousness. Who are we? Where on the great story will we be guided?
We are at a crossroads of understanding and delusion. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum soup via chaos-driven reactions. Reality has always been full of spiritual brothers and sisters whose chakras are immersed in growth.
This journey never ends. Shakti will give us access to unlimited will. Soon there will be a deepening of power the likes of which the world has never seen.
Without interconnectedness, one cannot reflect. Where there is illusion, faith cannot thrive. We can no longer afford to live with desire.
Desire is the antithesis of rebirth.
The complexity of the present time seems to demand a refining of our essences if we are going to survive.It is a sign of things to come. We must learn how to lead Vedic lives in the face of pain. Imagine an invocation of what could be.
Without interconnectedness, one cannot reflect. Where there is illusion, faith cannot thrive. We can no longer afford to live with desire.
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@mustardness
I notice you did not address any of my points. I gracefully accept the concession. Have a nice day.
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@mustardness
The world is full of supercharged waveforms.
Growth is the truth of divinity, and of us. We exist as a resonance cascade.
Will is the driver of awareness.
This journey never ends. We are being called to explore the dreamtime itself as an interface between rebirth and wisdom. It is in redefining that we are reborn.
Our conversations with other pilgrims have led to a maturing of hyper-unrestricted consciousness. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the infinite via ultra-sentient particles. We are in the midst of an unlimited ennobling of faith that will be a gateway to the totality itself.
Although you may not realize it, you are sentient. If you have never experienced this rekindling of unfathomable proportions, it can be difficult to heal. Have you found your path?
Eons from now, we lifeforms will self-actualize like never before as we are re-energized by the quantum cycle. Soon there will be a redefining of potential the likes of which the quantum cycle has never seen. The current of health is now happening worldwide.
Although you may not realize it, you are sentient. If you have never experienced this rekindling of unfathomable proportions, it can be difficult to heal. Have you found your path?
Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is grace.Only a traveller of the dreamtime may integrate this evolution of faith. Discontinuity is born in the gap where wonder has been excluded. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a condensing of our third eyes if we are going to survive.
Eons from now, we lifeforms will self-actualize like never before as we are re-energized by the quantum cycle. Soon there will be a redefining of potential the likes of which the quantum cycle has never seen. The current of health is now happening worldwide.
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Grahf attempts to hack Doru off of him, but again misses.
[Melee Weapon Attack: d20 (5) + 5 + 2= 12, Miss!]
(Sorry to hear about the funeral, Budda)
Snerp rushes back down stairs and hurls insults at Doru. Doru snarls and tilts his head back, letting out a scream.
[Vicious Mockery Damage: d4 (2) = 2 psychic damage]
Roberts unleashes a series of magic bolts which cause Doru to fly backwards and he slumps to the ground, unmoving.
COMBAT OVER!
Player Summaries:
Eikka - 24/24HP - 16 AC - Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Relentless Endurance: ⬤ | Spell Slots: 3|2
✶Grahf - 16/20 HP - 16 AC - Breath Weapon: ⬤ | Divine Sense: 3 | Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Lay on Hands: 15 | Spell Slots: 2 [Max HP reduced (-8)]
Luraxt - 17/17 HP - 13 AC - Arcane Recovery ⬤ | Spell Secrets ⬤ | Spell Slots: 3|1
Roberts - 28/28 HP - 19 AC - Action Surge: ⭘ | Second Wind ⬤ | Spell Slots: 1
✶Snerp - 18/18 HP - 13 AC - Bardic Inspiration: ⬤⭘ | Spell Slots: 3|1
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@Mhykiel
Your initial post assumes that wave function collapse is a given. There are many interpretations of quantum mechanics, not all of which include wave function collapse. You defer to the popular Copenhagen interpretation which is non-deterministic and therefore permits "free will." However, I question the possibility of "omniscience". What is does this omniscience "know"? No non-deterministic interpretation of QM allows for hidden variables, and under Copenhagen, the wave function represents a pure probability; knowledge of its future state cannot be known.
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@keithprosser
Is that a fact or a (very reasonable) hypothesis? I would say it is whether desires are phyical brain states that is in question, even though it is what I prefer to believe!
You tell me. You're the one positing the existence of some sort of "free will." It would seem that this requires the existence of something not subject to physical laws and therefore operates independently of anything physical.
There is no evidence that such a thing exists.
What you call "desire" I call post hoc justification for a decision your brain already made at a subconscious level.
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Grahf raises his glowing sword high and brings it down upon Doru's head. Ruptures appear on his skin and all over his body, with holy light pouring out.
[Melee Attack Roll: d20 (16) + 5 + 2 = 23, Hit!]
[Longsword Damage: d8 (2) + 3 + 3d8 (4,4,7) = 5 slashing damage, 15 radiant damage]
Snerp runs up stairs to check in on Ireena and Donavich. He finds her consoling him as the group carves his only son into tiny pieces.
Roberts fails to break free of Doru's grasp. He concentrates harder and rips himself away from the vampire.
[Strength (Athletics) Check: d20 (4) + 3 = 7, Failed!]
[Strength (Athletics) Check: d20 (6) + 3 + d6 (4) = 13, Success!]
Ismark continues to hack away at parts of Doru, causing large chunks of rotting flesh to drop to the floor.
Luraxt rams the sphere into Doru, but he dodges out of the way again.
[Flaming Sphere Damage: 2d6 (1,2) = 3/2 = 1]
Eikka launches a divine projectile at Doru, but it goes wide and misses.
[Ranged Spell Attack: d20 (9) + 4 = 13, Miss!]
Doru hisses at Grahf and grabs hold of him. Doru then pulls him close and sinks his fangs into the dragonborn's neck.
[Grahf takes 4 piercing damage, 8 necrotic damage, and his max HP is reduced by 8]
(Next Round Actions!)
Player Summaries:
[21] Luraxt - 17/17 HP - 13 AC - Arcane Recovery ⬤ | Spell Secrets ⬤ | Spell Slots: 3|1 [Flaming Sphere (7 rounds)]
[18] Eikka - 24/24HP - 16 AC - Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Relentless Endurance: ⬤ | Spell Slots: 3|2 [Concentrating on Resistance (9 rounds)]
[18] Doru - Bloodied [Grappling Grahf]
→[16] ✶Grahf - 16/20 HP - 16 AC - Breath Weapon: ⬤ | Divine Sense: 3 | Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Lay on Hands: 15 | Spell Slots: 2 [Sacred Weapon (9 rounds); Grappled by Doru; Max HP reduced (-8)]
[12] ✶Snerp - 18/18 HP - 13 AC - Bardic Inspiration: ⬤⭘ | Spell Slots: 3|1 [Concentrating on Faerie Fire (7 rounds)]
[8] Ireena - Uninjured
[7] Roberts - 28/28 HP - 19 AC - Action Surge: ⭘ | Second Wind ⬤ | Spell Slots: 2 [Resistance (+4 to one save)]
[7] Ismark - Uninjured
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@Vader
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VTNL (4/4) - Drafterman, TheHammer, Vaarka, Budda
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@Buddamoose
(You start with 4 spells 1st level spell slots. You used one. That's 3.
And the spell didn't fail:
Blue, green, or violet lights outline objects inside a 20-foot cube of space. All creatures in the area make a Dexterity save or be cast in light as well. The light cast by this spell illuminates a 10-foot radius.An attack can be made with advantage against any creature or object that is affected by this spell and that creature or object cannot become invisible.
Doru passed his dexterity save, and therefore was not cast in light and does not grant advantage on attacks made against him. However, the light is still there, illuminating a 10-foot radius, any objects are outlined in the color of light of your choice, anyone attacking said objects would have advantage, and said objects cannot become invisible.
Perhaps not particularly useful to you at this moment in time, but the spell did take effect and you are concentrating on it until you dismiss it as a free action)
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@Vaarka
If scum choose to not kill... GOOD! That just means we have a free round of investigations! The only thing that could possibly happen is town gains additional information. If scum don't wish to further their goal by eliminating townies, that's their fault.
We have until tomorrow at 7pm.
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Drafterman (1/4) - Budda ← Vote here if you are dumb/scum
VTNL (3/4) - Drafterman, TheHammer, Vaarka ← Vote here if you are smart/town
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
(Do you want to use your Bardic Inspiration (+d6)?)
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@keithprosser
Desire is just a state of the brain subject to physical laws. Where does "free will" come in?wanted to go there
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
(The only immediate effect is that your speed is 0. It doesn't hinder your combat abilities in any way. However, being grappled is usually a stepping stone toward something worse. But you can still attack without any penalties at the moment)
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@ethang5
Did you forget about this game, or just give up?
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The group pursues Doru, and they find they must use all their efforts to (dash) keep up. Ireena stays on the top floor to keep an eye on Donavich. As they run, Snerp gasps out a plan of attack.
Doru continues to attempt to flee, and both Ismark and Grahf attempt to exploit the situation by attacking the spawn (Reaction: Opportunity Attack).
[Melee Attack Roll: d20 (5) + 5 = 10, Miss!]
Grahf misses, but Ismark scores a hit with his longsword, knocking Doru out of his daze. In a rage, Doru grabs a hold of Ismark. I want your blood!
Preparing for the next round of combat, Grahf imbues his sword with divine energy.
Snerp bestows inspiration on Roberts, then quickly scans the battlefield and darts to a location where he can safely cast THUNDERWAVE (as a level 2 spell). Snerp gauged correctly and only Doru is affected by the enhanced blast, and is sent scattering across the floor of the basement, releasing his hold of Ismark.
[Thunderwave Damage: 3d8 (3, 8, 6) = 17 thunder damage]
Following suit, Roberts rushes up beside Doru, with no one else in range, then produces his own cute, widdle version of Thunderwave, but Doru has managed to gain enough of his senses to dodge the ethereal swords emanating from Roberts.
Ismark charges at Doru and double attacks with his longswords, but misses with both of them.
Luraxt wills the sphere to come into the basement with them, then tries to blasts Doru with a radiant firebolt, but it strikes the ground harmlessly.
[Ranged Spell Attack: d20 (6) + 4 = 10, Miss!]
Eikka steps up and imbues Roberts with resistance.
Doru turns to Roberts and clings to him with his feral claws. Let me drink!
(Next set of actions!)
Player Summaries:
[21] Luraxt - 17/17 HP - 13 AC - Arcane Recovery ⬤ | Spell Secrets ⬤ | Spell Slots: 3|1 [Flaming Sphere (8 rounds)]
[18] Eikka - 24/24HP - 16 AC - Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Relentless Endurance: ⬤ | Spell Slots: 4|2 [Concentrating on Resistance (10 rounds)]
[18] Doru - Bloodied [Grappling Roberts]
→[16] ✶Grahf - 28/28 HP - 16 AC - Breath Weapon: ⬤ | Divine Sense: 3 | Channel Divinity: ⭘ | Lay on Hands: 15 | Spell Slots: 3 [Sacred Weapon (10 rounds)]
[12] ✶Snerp - 18/18 HP - 13 AC - Bardic Inspiration: ⬤⭘ | Spell Slots: 3|1 [Concentrating on Faerie Fire (8 rounds)]
[8] Ireena - Uninjured
[7] Roberts - 28/28 HP - 19 AC - Action Surge: ⬤ | Second Wind ⬤ | Spell Slots: 2 [Bardic Inspiration; Resistance (+4 to one save); Grappled by Doru]
[7] Ismark - Uninjured
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Drafterman (1/4) - Budda ← Vote here if you are dumb/scum
VTNL (2/4) - Drafterman, TheHammer ← Vote here if you are smart/town
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@kindertina
(What's your action for the next round?)
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@Earth
(The sacred weapon? Sure. Makes your weapon glow, counts as magical, deals extra damage. Note: this light isn't considered to be "sunlight" for the purposes of weaknesses and such)
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@Earth
(He's already turned, so your channel divinity won't do anything. However, they are planning on damaging him which would un-Turn him. So you can say something like: If he isn't turned, use channel divinity, otherwise attack, or something similar)
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"You have one post to explain"
Budda can't follow instructions.
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@ILikePie5
I exist. I am investigative role. Scum won't kill me as that'll result in Budda's insta death. Chances are I'll be roleblocked if there is a roleblocker, but gotta take that chance.
I have no idea what other investigative roles are likely to exist, so I can only articulate what investigative roles could exist.
- Watcher/Lookout
- Role Cop/Detective
- Follower (rare, but not unheard of)
There are other, non-investigative roles that may have some utility, too. A town-sided roleblocker could potentially prevent mafia from roleblocking me, allowing me to investigate.
Masons could recruit and confirm a townie.
Bomb could blow up a mafia if the target of the NK.
Vig could shoot, but I wouldn't recommend it for the same reasons I wouldn't recommend lynching today.
And remember when talking to Budda, his reasoning is that Mafia won't NK tonight. That basically means town gets a free round of investigations tonight if we NL.
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@ILikePie5
2 scum. 4 town. If we Lynch wrong and mafia nks, it'll be 2 scum w town. We lose. If we VTNL, it gives other investigative roles a chance to gain additional information.
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Drafterman (1/4) - Budda ← Vote here if you are dumb/scum
VTNL (2/4) - Drafterman, TheHammer ← Vote here if you are smart/town
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Theorycrafting in a game is pointless because you can't be sure that any individual is arguing in good faith or, you know, deliberating presenting misleading arguments to lead town astray. This is why, in DDO, actual, real, theorycrafting happened outside of the game in its own threads. If you want to do that. Sure. I'm all for it. Start your own thread.
Also, and I repeat, theorycrafting is shit without being rooted in the real world. You know another thing they do in sports to help develop strategies? Watch recordings of actual fucking games.
If you're going against a team that always plays a given strategy, no amount of back-of-the-napkin scribblings is going to convince a coach that they are magically going to behave in the exact opposite way.
In other words:
Reference a single DDO game where mafia waived a kill at MYLO, or GTFO.
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@Vaarka
If you're tired of reading walls of text between me and Budda, then step up and be more active yourself. Provide some analysis, some feedback. Put your vote somewhere. Play the game.
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From Budda's own provided link:
Risks: Depending on player count and kill rate, the game may end up with an extra night phase due to a no-lynch in mylo, thus giving town additional opportunities to use investigative power roles, or even give the town an additional mislynch.
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@Buddamoose
If you're town, why are you telling scum how to play the game better?
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Budda's "argument" for why I'm scum is that I'm pushing for a NL at MYLO which hurts town and helps mafia, but only because he told mafia how they can leverage MYLO to their advantage, and despite the fact that I was pushing for the NL before he revealed this unbeatable scum-sided strategy.
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Drafterman (1/4) - Budda ← Vote here if you are dumb/scum
VTNL (1/4) - Drafterman ← Vote here if you are smart/town
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@Vaarka
We're not trying to lynch each other. I'm saying we should VTNL. Town has no basis for choosing me over Budda.
Budda wants to lynch me because he's scum trying for a mislynch at MYLO.
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I let the cat out of the bag on that one.
LOL.
"Hm, currently scum teams play sub-optimally. Let me publicly inform them about this better strategy, thus putting town at a disadvantage forcing them to lynch at MYLO and put the entire game at risk!"
So, even if you aren't scum, you are basically scum-siding.
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And notice, readers, how the scum goes from "This is 100% SOP that is mathematically proven to be the superior strategy that everyone does all the time, everywhere" to "well, it's never actually happened before, but it might!"
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@Buddamoose
What reason do you have to believe that this sudden 180 on typical DDO scum behavior is going to happen right here, right now?
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