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@secularmerlin
Good. To be clear, the "moving" { motion } of our finite, occupied space Universe, is only relative to itself. not another or other.I have come as close to agreeing with you as I am able under my current epistemology. I too feel that it is logical that the universe is dynamic and moving but likely or not we do not know and it is intellectually honest to admit that this is just a hypothesis and even if it is coincidentally the case that the universe in its overall shape is dynamic it is still an untestable and therefore poor hypothesis.
The theory of relativity relates to only two or more parts of our finite, occupied space Universe.
You agree my assessment is logical, not that it is rational, common sense deduction based on our observations of all other finite phenomena, that have a geometry pattern/shape.
Yes, honestly speaking it is a good ---not "poor"-- guess on my part, that is based on all other observations regarding what is known about Universe from my perspective and others.
What is possible to know in the future, I, nor others do not know. Humans have discovered --ergo we do know--- mathematically absolute truths and relative truths.
Convergent Gravity ( ) and divergent Dark Energy )( are known a opposites and my assessment is that this is also truth as geometrically diametric opposites both locally in how they operate at all scales of their existence is a guess. A guess that is based on my explorations with prime numbers and aspects of a torus.
At ultra-micro scales the problem Ive always run into is what exactly/specifically is moving? The torus, as a circular based vector, ---two kiinds of circle at 90 degrees to each other--- brings me closer to establishing the systemic and structural integrity of space ( )( ) and time /\/\/\/ as a wholistic { holograhic } phenomena.
I say this because ever since I read Jacob Bekenstiens blac hole mathematics based assement that ...'we appear to be 2D creatures having and illusion of 3D'.... Ive struggled to how to integrate that with a sphere. For years the only tool I had was the Archimedes discovery that the area of the four circular planes of a cubo-octahedron were equal to the 2D convex ---or concave--- surface area of the spherical cubo-octahedron.
With a torus as vector we have two introduced 3D into how the holograhic 2D scenario. I say this because the now the surface of a black hole is no longer a simple spheriical with four planes it is a complex spherical with four 3D tori that have compplex set of interference inside the the complex spherical set.
Unfortunately, dont have the mathematical or graphics ability to better study this specific geometry/pattern interference.
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@secularmerlin
If, as I suspect, you are saying that the universe is composed of moving parts and so has no set shape then I agree that this is very likely mathematically speaking. It is still not a testable hypothesis. An untestable hypothesis is a poor hypothesis.
Water occupies space. Water is dynamic.
Sand dunes occupy space. Sand dunes are dynamic, mostly because of wind.
Lungs occupy space. Lungs exand-contract dynamically.
If humans had to have a mathmatical equation every time they need to take a dump in the woods, or build and outhouse, humanity would long ago perished. Rational, logical common sense supercedes mathmatics in most ways of living and dying.
Putting aside the exactitude mathematics, inexact math ---i.e generalized mathematics as rational, logical common sense--- will clearly spell out that occupied space is dynamic at one scale of existence or another. This a minimal brainer irrespective of whether he have any of the exact dimension of our dynamically changing, occupied space Universe.
Occupied space as energy = energetic ergo dynamic i.e. in motion eternally. Universe is the only perpetual motion machine, because of diametric forces --via shape--- of Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(. Simple, not complex to grasp, with only the mathematics of shape/geometry/pattern.
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@Swagnarok
So give "hope" a chance is your foreign policy. I sure "hope" nobody in the middleast gets butchered because USA needs their{?} oil. Theirs till the Shah of Iran was removed.All we can hope for is that Erdogan doesn't butcher too many people.
USA peoples did not want to get involved with Nazis either. I sure hope nobody in Europe gets butchered because USA doesnt not want to get involved in Europe. Then Pearl Harbor occured and USA realizes t that Japan and Hitler were on same page.
So Bosinan war occurs and USA sees people getting butchered, as United Nations walks away from a town and leaves them to be butchered. I sure hope nobody gets butchered in that area. Then USA gives military support.
So twin towers fall and since Bush-2 did not know how to spell Afghanistan, ergo USA went to war in Iraq. I sure hope nobody gets butchered in middle east because of USA's need for oil. So kurds get northern Iraq freed from oppression.
Oh yeah, USA troops are not out of Syria and are in grave danger of being caught between Turkey/Syria/Russia and Kurds as ISIS prioners are making a prison break,--- thanks to Trumpity Dumpity---. I sure hope nobody gets butchered in middleast ---including USA troops---.
1} smart policy that engages to prevent butchering,
2} passive resistance { non-violence } to protest butchering,
3} dumb policy that encourages butchering,
4} give hope a chance policy,
5} USA supports volunteer army that volunteers for where they want to go fight, provided they get enough votes from congress,
6} other options....?
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@secularmerlin
Occupied space has shape ex kitchen chair, Toyota auto, basketball etc.
Occupied space Universe has dynamic shape.
This above is a minimal brainer for those humans who have access to rational, logical,common sense truths and facts, that, we deduce or observe over time and communicate to self or others.
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@n8nrgmi
the impeachment inquiry is a witch hunt
Is Trumpy a witch? Does a male witch on earth exist?
.."lets go grab some strange womans p____y, aka cr__ch"....
Then lets lie about paying off those women.
Then lets shakedown Ukraines president.
Oh gee what else do male witches do that I'm forgetting.
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...Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space.......
There is no cosmic source { @ } only cosmic ignorance * ??? *
.....................!!!!!!........bad hair day
.....................}*v*{...... I am not a chicken
...................( * )( * ).....bosom buddies
......................( . ).....wee bit pregnant
.....external...\*Y*/......or internal, bilateral set
...................../.....\.......leg, fin, side arm
................__/.......\__....tail-fin or tail fluke
The Seekers were not ignorant of their personal music source
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@PressF4Respect
There exists no cosmic source { @ } only cosmic ignorance. { * ??? * }
..."These Swirls of Light Could Be Signs of a Previous Universe Existing Before Ours"...
.."If our Universe happened to be locked in an eternal heartbeat of expansion and collapse, black holes would leave an impression. And it could look just like a number of swirls recently detected in the faint echo of light at the edge of space."......
...."Buddhism has no creator god to explain the origin of the universe. Instead, it teaches that everything depends on everything else: present events are caused by past events and become the cause of future events.
Indian religions often see space and time as cyclical, such that world-systems come into being, survive for a time, are destroyed and then are remade. In Buddhism this happens naturally without the intervention of gods."...
Heavenly This Dance, That Swirls Around, *)(*...^v^v...*)(*
Inward and Outward, Finite the Bounds. >>>(< *)(* >)<<<<
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Rybo the Rybot from the planet Rybon spreading the Rybonic seed
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1} Our first breath { prana } is IN-spire-ation.
2} I believe that the infants first In-Spiration of breath ---and umbilical chord disconnect-- that seperates the infants ego { i } identifier from the mothers ego { i } identifier.
3} Spire = cone and the minimal cone is a triangular based pryamid aka tetra{4}hedron. LINK
4} At the peak of contraction of lungs ---Ex-Spiration--- we see increase of layers of outer surface Gravity ( ) increasing to create the largest possible black hole that is referred to some as a singularity ((((*)))) yet is is not and can never be such singularity.
5]At the peak of expansion of the lungs ---In-Spiration--- we have entropic heat death ---via Dark Energy )(--- where all fermionic matter and bosonic forces have been dispersed as one very large and very flat{ lowest frequency } photon.
If we truly listen, we never hear silence.
If we truly care, we aim/direct/steer that noise into patterns of order, that, we can then apply via verbalization or just hands on touch, to that which we feel is appropriate to fit our personal needs or needs of others.
Quietening of the mind is the action of putting in order, the actions around us, so we may go forward in peaceful contemplemation of the greater wholistic set, and all of its subset parts.
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1} Eternity is to time, ---/\/\/---> occupied space that is specifically entropic aka the arrow-of-time
2} As infinite is to space, ---Space( )( )Space--- occupied { syntropic } and the non-occupied { macro-irrelevant }is the macro-infinite non-occupied space beyond/outside of our finite, occupied space Universe.
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The deniers are in denial of truth and facts and especially two primary considerations both of which
directly assoiated with 7.5 billion humans on Earth
1} regarding well documented, Earths surface temperature is increasing,
2} the increasing surface temperatures are due to human actions and specifically increase of greenhouse gases { green house effect known
to me since at least 1979 } Sad :--( )--:
..."With a landscape covered in snow for much of the year, these forests of spruce, pine, and larch are moist and cool and surprisingly rich in carbon.
...Organic matter tends to accumulate on the taiga floor because the cool conditions suppress decay. In fact, boreal environments store an
estimated one-fifth to one-third of all terrestrial carbon stocks (between the trees and the soils beneath them).
...With all of that fuel on the ground, the forests are prone to large fires in the summer growing season, accounting for about 10 percent of global fire and smoke emissions......
......A growing body of evidence suggests that such fires will become more frequent and more destructive as the planet warms and the growing season lengthens.
...“These adaptations to surviving in fire-prone environments have resulted in very different fire regimes between the continents,” Rogers said. “Given the scale, this may represent the single greatest influence of individual species on continental patterns of carbon and energy flux, except for humans.”
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"Dare to be naive"... R. B. Fuller
"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman
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Moral concepts {metaphysical-1 } are based in action. I think there is some buddhist teachings or sayings in those regards,
right action, right livelyhood, right thoughts{ think good thoughts } etc.
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Yes as complementaries.
1} Perfection is metphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept ex a perfect circle or sphere does not exist only closer and closer approximations of perfection.
2} Morality is cause and effect ergo detereministic, occupied space judgement ergo an action based on circumstances and all actions are tainted properties that have;
charge{ ex emotion plus or minus }, color, taste, spin, temperature, complexity, direction and magnitude.
If yes, must they always coexist?"
Yes, occupied space and concepts are eternally complementary to each other in general, not in every specific special-case.
Ex we have existence of a macro-infinite non-occupied space and the concept such a space, whereas we do not have an infinite set of occupied space dogs, automobiles numbers etc, yet we can have the concept ---talking point-- of such and this is known as a fiction { falsehood/false narrative }.
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@bsh1
"Can morality and perfection coexist?
Yes as complementaries.
1} Perfection is metphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept ex a perfect circle or sphere does not exist only closer and closer approximations of perfection.
2} Morality is cause and effect ergo detereministic, occupied space judgement ergo an action based on circumstances and all actions are tainted properties that have;
charge{ ex emotion plus or minus }, color, taste, spin, temperature, complexity, direction and magnitude.
If yes, must they always coexist?"
Yes, occupied space and concepts are eternally complementary to each other in general, not in every specific special-case.
Ex we have existence of a macro-infinite non-occupied space and the concept such a space, whereas we do not have an infinite set of occupied space dogs, automobiles numbers etc, yet we can have the concept ---talking point-- of such and this is known as a fiction { falsehood/false narrative }.
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Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First Temple?
Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey’s stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization
Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey’s stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization
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Eternity is to time, ---/\/\/---> occupied space that is specifically entropic aka the ---arrow-of-time-->
As infinite is to space, ---Space( )( )Space--- occupied { overall syntropic } and the non-occupied { macro-irrelevant }
..."These Swirls of Light Could Be Signs of a Previous Universe Existing Before Ours"...
...."Buddhism has no creator god to explain the origin of the universe. Instead, it teaches that everything depends on everything else: present events are caused by past events and become the cause of future events.
Indian religions often see space and time as cyclical, such that world-systems come into being, survive for a time, are destroyed and then are remade. In Buddhism this happens naturally without the intervention of gods."...
Heavenly This Dance, That Swirls Around,
Inward and Outward, Finite the Bounds.
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"Dare to be naive"... R. B. Fuller
"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman
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.............Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space..........
I believe that the infants first In-Spiration of breath ---and umbilical chord disconnect-- that seperates the infants ego { i } identifier from the mothers ego { i } identifier.
Our first breath { prana } is IN-spire-ation.
Spire = cone and the minimal cone is a triangular based pryamid aka tetra{4}hedron. LINK
At the peak of contraction of lungs ---Ex-Spiration--- we see increase of layers of outer surface Gravity ( ) increasing to create the largest possible black hole that is referred to some as a singularity ((((*)))) yet is is not and can never be such singularity.
At the peak of expansion of the lungs ---In-Spiration--- we have entropic heat death ---via Dark Energy )(--- where all fermionic matter and bosonic forces have been dispersed as one very large and very flat{ lowest frequency } photon.
Eternity is to time, ---/\/\/---> occupied space that is specifically entropic aka the arrow-of-time
As infinite is to space, ---Space( )( )Space--- occupied { syntropic } and the non-occupied { macro-irrelevant }
..."These Swirls of Light Could Be Signs of a Previous Universe Existing Before Ours"...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/relig...iverse_1.shtml
...."Buddhism has no creator god to explain the origin of the universe. Instead, it teaches that everything depends on everything else: present events are caused by past events and become the cause of future events.
Indian religions often see space and time as cyclical, such that world-systems come into being, survive for a time, are destroyed and then are remade. In Buddhism this happens naturally without the intervention of gods."...
Heavenly This Dance, That Swirls Around,
Inward and Outward, Finite the Bounds.
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"Dare to be naive"... R. B. Fuller
"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman
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@HistoryBuff
I'm sorry, I don't understand your point. An impeachment doesn't go to the courts. impeachment is a trial in congress and then the Senate.
Sorry, they were not related to "impeachment". They were related to the white house and it cultist follors behaving as Banana Republic dictatorship.
My two items were on the Rachael Maddow show last night and again, sorry I cant recall the exact names of the peoples were charged and conviented of crimes related to this administration of their campagin and a Trumpist cult judge threw out their convictions.
So again, USA is now currently and has been dealing with a Banana Republic since the dictator and cult leader Trump has got into officce. Do you understand any of what Ive stated above? With birdbrain Gray-parrot it hits Trump cultist brickwall. Hear no evil of Trump, see no evil of Trump and speak no evil of Trump. Sad ;--(
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@zedvictor4
The writing is on the wall but some sseemingly mature adults have a mental block to literacy. Go figure. There is a cult going on around here.
..."Between July 31 and Aug. 3 alone, more than 58 billion tons melted from the surface. The average for this time of year is less than 18 billion tons. And that doesn’t even count the huge calving events or the warm water eating away at the glaciers from below."...
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@HistoryBuff
Some Trump cultist judge threw out a jurys guilty decision on some other cult Trumpist.
And a 2nd judge did similar thing with a couple subset of the Maniford crimes.
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@zedvictor4
A significant reduction in the human population wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing though.
Uneccessary sufferring is always a bad thing.
All of the pieces ---below-- for humanities demise are in place and you apparrenly missed the 40 years of M.A.D. and their partial resolution in late 80s early 90's.
I always did best with multiple choice tests.
1} hydrogen bomb nuclear death of fire and radiation posioning, ---and all its resultant consequencies--,
2} climate temperatures rise and the many consequences that can result from runaway temperature rise as ice melts and less reflection of suns heat back into space, --and the many resultant consequences of that--,
3} slow ticking time bomb of many kinds of chemical and radiational posioning from growing poplulation that demands higher standard of living, ---ergo cancer rates rise rapidly as immune system of humanity falls to all time new lows--,
4} bacteria or other viral infection plagues that humans have no immunity from,
5} all the ones I'm forgettting
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@zedvictor4
Though some might say that nuclear testing is an inevitable consequence of humanity.
Some might say that humanities demise is an inevitable consequence of humanity.
Its pretty much a multiple choice question:
1} hydrogen bomb nuclear death of fire and radiation posioning, ---and all its resultant consequencies--,
2} climate temperatures rise and the many consequences that can result from runaway temperature rise as ice melts and less reflection of suns heat back into space, --and the many resultant consequences of that--,
3} slow ticking time bomb of many kinds of chemical and radiational posioning from growing poplulation that demands higher standard of living, ---ergo cancer rates rise rapidly as immune system of humanity falls to all time new lows--,
4} bacteria or other viral infection plagues that humans have no immunity from,
5} all the ones I'm forgettting
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Hurricane Dorians pathway includes Ukraine and I have a sharpie edited weather map to prove it.
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Impeachment > prison > Jeffery Epsteiin
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@TheRealNihilist
Both are true ergo to pick either, is inherent exclusion of the other and that is an errror.
If a tree falls in the forest and no animal with ear sensitive to those frequencies of sound to hear them do those sounds exist. Duhh yes they do exist irrespective of the creature being present.
I think about something { occupied space } ---ex y finger--- ergo I exist as a something. Without the occupied space something there is no thinking{ thought processing }.
Which came first chicken or the egg, Fuller and Lee Smolin say it simple and obvious answer, the egg came first. This is simple progressionary progressionary process associated with all life and not just specificlly those creatures that lay eggs i.e. the genetic code exists first all else comes aftewords.
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@Paul
Dynamically lumpy and one analogy I use is consider how flares are dynamic in going outward from sun.
Another dynamic graphic Iver referenced for many years is Greg Egans Schilds Ladder page
Again the center of our finite, occupied space Universe is relative dynamics of a lumpy Universe that is in constant change at is event horizon surface where we find on that outside surface ultra-thin set of gravitons we collectively call Gravity ( ).
The problem you may have to grasp is the rational, logical common sense pathways of thought and the resultant conclusions Ive arrived at may have to do with your education and pre-conditiontion ways of thoughts.
Our finite, occupied space Universe is not a perfect sphere, not is it a perfect torus. It is composed of ultra-high set of dynamic interfering tori related to specific great circle patterns that all stem from a fundamental set of 3-fold, 4-fold and 5-fold polyhedra.
Each of these single, stand alone dynamic tori, are based upon
a numiercal four level/line pattern wherein we find all prime numbers --except 2 and 3-- occurring on the top line/level and that line/level translates as the great circle peak of curvature of the dynamic torus.
Here below is the numerical pattern basis for all of the fundamental tori of the quantum aspects of Universe
...1..........5....7..............11......13......................17........19.....................23......25.............................................
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"Dare to be naive"... R. B. Fuller
"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman
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@Paul
Naw, you know an a_hole is talking when it's lips are moving. Visualize that.
Humans do that all of the time so that is easy visualization. What is not easy for you is to place your ego and preconditioned education to the side and even attempt to follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought. Sad :--(
Is it truly a wonder why humanity appears to be headed toward extinction. Not when were dealing with closed and narrow minds.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
You're talking out of your ass.
So does it take an a__hole to know when an A__hole is speaking?
Modern science has no idea how or why dark energy works or what it is.
Wow, did you just learn that recently. Welcome to Darek Energy 101, please have a seat make attempt to learn and disscuss with rational, loigcal common sense and decency or hit the road jack, and dont you come back no mo, no mo no mo...hit the road jack and dont you come back no mo.....Ray Charles
Your idea that dark energy will eventually 'tire out' or be 'overpowered' by gravity in the long term is completely unfounded.
Since you or "modern science" has no idea what Dark Energy then you really have no idea what you talking about and
Unlike my many patwhays of rational logical common sense Ive been laying out for others with clarity,
you offer nothing but hot air ---or is that methane from some hole,of yours--- that adds too or invalidates any of my comments stated.
Often times those with nothing of significant relevance offer only disdain and disrepect on other who do offer signifcant and relevant pathways of thought based on what many humans and modern scientist have observed.
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@Greyparrot
A cult memmber of the Banna Republic Dictator repeating a false narative to diverge from truth facing here and now and so much agreegious and crimminal to democracy.The only obvious quid pro quo was Biden using 1 billion dollars in tax funds to bail out his son.
You have no grasp of moral integrity, empathy etc becuase you are careless and highest if not only priority is $$$ of the buckroo mentality,
God = Capaitlism = $$$ = Trump = maignant, narrcistic, racist white nationlistic supremacy and Putins bitch. Sad :--(
Moscow rules and the moscow rules are being excuted in USA by Trumpist cult members. Will democrats fight fire with fire?
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@Paul
How would you describe the shape of the whole thing?
Dynamically lumpy and one analogy I use is consider how flares are dynamic in going outward from sun.
Another dynamic graphic Iver referenced for many years is Greg Egans Schilds Ladder page
We can talk about the center of the universe as well if you like.
Again the center of our finite, occupied space Universe is relative dynamics of a lumpy Universe that is in constant change at is event horizon surface where we find on that outside surface ultra-thin set of gravitions we collectively call Gravity ( ).
The problem you may have to grasp the rational, logical common sense pathways of thought and the resultant conclusions Ive arrived at may have to do with your education and pre-conditiontion ways of thoughts.
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"Dare to be naive"... R. B. Fuller
"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman
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Guilty until proven innocent. That's the banana republic legacy of the Saul Alinsky crazed left.
There is a pattern of guilt with Trump adminstration that your ego and spirit is in denial of This is typical of any cult member.
- Assume nothing.
- Never go against your gut.
- Everyone is potentially under opposition control.
- Do not look back; you are never completely alone.
- Go with the flow, blend in.
- Vary your pattern and stay within your cover.
- Lull them into a sense of complacency.
- Do not harass the opposition.
- Pick the time and place for action.
- Keep your options open.
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@Nemiroff
Your in denial of truth, if not also the facts.This time its also natural. A specific animal is producing too much of something. Nature has ways to balance those out, lets try to do it ourselves before nature kills us.
Humans are a part of nature as any other phenomena.
The writing on the wall is more than just children around the world leaving school and marching to the same tune.
Their reading the writing of their future and they will not be silent or passive about Erractic Climate Change and humans natures part in it.
Many of us --ex me-- will be long dead when some of what due to hit in 50 to 100 years from now as were only experiencing tip of a relatively and potentially extremme global climate change far faster than the ice age we have been entering for a few years now.
Get real dude and get your self educated and place your ego to the side.
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@Stronn
@Paul
Under the Einsteinian view, the big question was whether the universe was open, meaning it would keep expanding forever,
1} this statement inherently means our known Universe is finite and not infinite. Why so few people can grasp this rather simple, rational, logical and common sense pathway of thought is perplexing to me,
or closed, meaning its expansion would eventually slow down and stop, at which point a giant contraction would begin.
2} again only a finite occupied space can expand, stop and then contract,
Which scenario would occur depended only upon the average density of matter over the entire universe. If the density was high enough, then the universe was closed. Otherwise it was open.
3} gravity overrides any density and entropic heat death as very large { finite } very flat{ longest frequency } single photon, and again a single photon of any size is still
The discovery in the 1990's that the expansion of the universe was actually accelerating threw a wrench into this view. The current hypothesis is that this is some unknown form of energy, named dark energy, although really we have no clue what it is. "Dark energy" is just a placeholder for "that which causes space to expand" .
We know that it is the opposite of Gravity and if Gravity can be considered to be associated with the outside peak of convex{ positive shaped } curvature associated with geodesic torus, then there exists only one obvious answer as to what Dark Energy is,
the peak of concave { negative shaped } curvature. Old news for me ( )( ).
With dark energy and an accelerating expansion, it now seems clear that the expansion of the universe will go on forever.
This assessment is incorrect conclusion since Gravity coheres energy { matter and bosons } at any distance ergo energy{ occupied space } cannot be destroyed and no new occupied space{ energy } is created.
Gravity is on the outside and eventually wins out. And on the other end is contraction { pulling-Inward gravity } leads to pushing-Outward{ dark energy }.
The brain only sends one kind of signal to the muscles and that is to contract. When the signal stops, the muscles expand via relaxing from being tight.
When a woman pushes-Out the baby/fetus it is resultant of pulling-In contractions of the muscles. Dark Energy and all other pushing-Out phenomena is a resultant of pulling-In phenomena. This is the path of least resistance.
Dark Energy )( expanding Space is Universe relaxing just as a muscle expands when is relaxed. At least that is one option.
And because the expansion is accelerating, there are places in the universe that will never be .observable from other places.
That may be true, however, no distance is immune to Gravity ( ). This is common sense even if Gravity operates at exactly the same speed as EMRadiation, yet we know speed-of-radiation can vary. Ex in a vacuum or not. There exists no true vacuum inside of our finite Universe.
And if Gravity operates from the outside, then it may be that Gravity is operating at a speed that is some ultra-factional differrence of greater speed than EMRadiation.
They are beyond each other's event horizons. It's fascinating to think that there may already be more beyond our own even horizon than within it--perhaps much, much more.
Incorrect conclusion again, because Gravity ( ) has no distance limits. Yes we have observable limits --via EMRadiation-- ergo we cannot observe what is going on inside of a black hole. However may be able to make some calculations{ deduce } based on what we observe being emitted from the event horizon surface, if we ever able to observe the outer event horizono surface emissions.
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@TheRealNihilist
Based on Rational Madmans oppinion of himself my assessment is he is the hottest person on Earth. ;--)
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Quid pro quo or is quid pro crow?
Me thinks Trump is crowing again because he believes, as King{ dictator } he has the biggest _*_*_*_ oops. I mean ego of all the roosters in USA.
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@Greyparrot
Greyparrot = bird brain and I thought Dr. Franklin was biggist bird brain here. Considering your reading comprehension skills and ability at avoiding truth it may become a toss out into the cow-pasture between you two.
Compared to you Eddward Snowden actually has kahunas and moral integrity. Again this are two things you know nothing about and do not care about because your basically a careless person.
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H,mm interesting Ive never thought of this before. God = $$$ = Trump as God { the Chosen One }.
And you are a cult follower of the The Choosen One { $$$ }. Ha, so your actually a buckeroo! Wow! This is great finding this out.
Greyparrot = buckerooist cult member of Trump Tribal Dictatorship. Whoa this is royal{ King has spoken } ergo All Hail King Trump! Thy Kingdom is near.
And this all goes back to you Nazi-like profile of your self at DDO as super-human white person with Trump head{ your idol } on top of shoulders.
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@Greyparrot
Netflix and MSNBC are profit-driven gaslight factories. You are part of the problem.
From the little I know of you, your the much larger problem in those regards than me.
Grow some kahunas, and start addressing you own personal moral integriity and value for truth before throwing your lame stones at me.
Please and thank you.
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@Greyparrot
It's okay, maybe you will be able to impeach bad orangeman this time.
He will go to prison for his crimes, whether as president or not.
The real question is how many of his supporters and enablers will go with him.
Then there is the moral integrity question that, I know your clueless about because you dont care about moral integrity.
For you, it is about capitalism as God over all else, including moral integrity.
H,mm interesting Ive never thought of this before. God = $$$ = Trump as God { the Chosen One }.
And you are a cult follower of the The Choosen One { $$$ }. Ha, so your actually a buckeroo! Wow! This is great finding this out.
Greyparrot = buckerooist cult member of Trump Tribal Dictatorship. Whoa this is royal{ King has spoken } ergo All Hail King Trump! Thy Kingdom is near.
And this all goes back to you Nazi-like profile of your self at DDO as super-human white person with Trump head{ your idol } on top of shoulders.
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@Imabench
I watched the movie sometime after it came out on Netflix, and then saw this interveiw couple nights ago on MSNBC.I wouldnt be surprised if a Dem president (assuming they win in 2020) grant him a pardon given how much distaste the american public has for mass surveillance and how most people dont care enough about Snowden to consider him a 'dangerous traitor' of sorts.
Interesting as was the movie. I put tape --as he did in the movie-- over my laptop camera a few months back because I remmbered that movie and some recent incidents fricking Gooogle--- I had with my laptop that made me more cautious in those regards.
So Brian asks him what does he do when he gets a new iphone or whatever. Snowden states that first thing he does, is take phone apart to remove sodder that connects microphone and camera. Later he can attach a external microphone or camera. I presume he does same with a laptop.
This dude was deep in there and knows more so much more than the average joe { me }.
He also stated that he had thought long and hard about coming back to USA, but his conclusion is this. If his coming back to USA and spending his life in prision would actually make a significant change in USA policies, he would consider it, however, the exact opposite is what over all is occuring with the exception of a few face value less signiricant changes.
He ended the interview on this note. All of human information { data } is being sold ---it is the capitilist way--- to the highest bidders left and right and that for the most part NSA does not even need to hack our phones or computers, they can jut go ask Goolge or Facebook of all the information they have on us.
If Facebook has any info on me it is because they got it from Google and Yahhoo { ATT } and ATT is a corporate capitlist who sell anyone info or give it too NSA for no good reason is my best guess.
As long as society places money over moral integrity, humanity will no survive another 1000 years on Earth and moon-Mars people are just ill-informed ignorant people with a long-distance future placebo effect going on in their minds.
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@Greyparrot
I think your confusing Ronald Regan and Oliver North --fired from National Rifle Association-- with Eric Holder.Eric Holder supplied weapons to our enemies through fast and furious.
This is not surprising coming from a parrot-bird-brain type.
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He says two USA courts cleared him and Eric Holder could not promise open hearings to his actions.
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Here we go again. Banana Republic dictator white house instructing Dept of National Intelligence { Maquire } to not release info given to them by whistle blower via inspector general and the Dept of Justice { attorney Barr } is backing the DNI in not releasing whistel blower info.
Now their all hunting the whiestle blower, even tho the whistel blower is supposed to be protected by the law.
News Alert for the brain dead and immoral in USA.
Banana Republic Dictators do not care about governemental laws. Banana Republic dictators abhor govenrment laws and believe all such laws are exist to be broken by the dictator.
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@Greyparrot
t's fake news because being wrong about the weather is not a fucking scandal.
Yes, Trump has produced a false weather narrative and lied about it for at least a weei.
Nobody was more than inconvenienced about Alabama weather reports, but the media would have you think Trump was responsible for a stampede of panicked Alabamians over a cliff of lemmings. The overhype of these "scandals" are ridiculous.
Trunp commtted a felony when altered a national weather map with a sharpie and a then an immoral felony when he lies about his use of sharpie to alter a national weather service map.
You cant handle the truth and so you fall off the ice-crean wagon go woo-woo about ice-cream. Grow a pair of kahunas and come back when you can accept truth and you want to have disscussion with mature adults.
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@Greyparrot
I don't really care. This was last week's fake news driving the orangemanbad narrative. This week is all about fake news regarding Kavanaugh from the NYT.
That doenst care for truth is not new news. If the media narrative does not praised Turmp and his 100's of lies to USA peoples, then the media is let and a false narative irresepective of whether its true.
GP is a cultist follower who has no empathy, compassion etc much less any access to truth. Why is this?
Why do we have a malignant bigoted racist, white { orange }, nationalistic supremacist narrcistist as USA president?
Because orange Trump and white Moscow Mitch are both Putins white bitches.
After dark skin peoples the next mark for white racist nationlistic supremacist is Asian.
White male on top, > underneath > Asians > dark skin humans. This is pretty simple for people who actually pay attention to truth.
The writing for decline of white supremacy is on the wall, and that is why there lashing out. They walk in fear of there genetic extinction everyday.
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@Greyparrot
Only one phenomena impresses you and that is the malignant, narcist, white racist nationalistic supremacy Trump.Go watch a few more months of CNN and come back and impress me.
Grow some kahunas and begin behaving like a mature adult with moral integrity.
Oh yeah you dont have any idea what moral integrity actually means. Sad :--(
I give you a clue, it is not a sharpie changing NOAA weather maps.
It it not instructing your lackey cultist to threaten NOAA with termination if they speak out against the dictator Trump.
Oh yeah, you still dont get what moral integrity is. Sad :--(
The only gaslight is you lack of examination of truth.
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@Greyparrot
Gaslight is better for then environment methane that Trump spews out daily and his base of racist, white nationlistic supremacist eat every morning before breakfest.You missed quite a few gaslight terms like "unhinged" and "unstable" from your media overlords. Go back and watch CNN for a few more months till you can get all the superlatives correct.
Ex they still believe Alabama is in path { NOT } of hurricane Dorian.
These cultist still believe Trump is the capitilistist God on Earth.
They still believe Kim Ung Pooh is operating in good faith nuclear negotiations.
They still believe Moscow Mitch is not also Putins bitch.
They do not even know or care that white Russians are racist against Chinese immigrants, just as white of USA have always been.
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@Greyparrot
Nah, racist has nothing to do with skin color anymore, just whether you disagree with someone.
This false narative is not a suprise from a person who believes moral integrity is childrens fairy tale books and not mature adults.
It is a false narrative from a cult follower that believes any words that come out of Trumps mouth as fact and truth. OMG!
GP still believes Trump did not pay hush money to keep to women quiet about Trumps cheating on Melania.
GP still believe national weather service and NOAA showed hurriance Dorian impacting Alabama days after the facts Alabama not involved.
GP still believes that Trump is not Putins bitch.
GP still believes non-sense and lies as long as Trunp tells his base of cult follower it is true.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah, get control back from, an abusive, out of control, malignant narcissist, racist, white nationalist supremacist dictator whose whole end game is only for self interest.so you can get control, control, control back...
Oh yeah, your a Trumpist cultist who thinks moral integrity is for childrens fairy tale books not mature adult humans. Sad :--(.
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OMG!! Trump fires Bolton. Another creature from the black Trump swamp is pooped on and spit out by our dictatorTrump.
Obviously Bolton was not a loyal cult follower.
Trumps swamp is full of the worst creatures to have in authority under a banana republic dictator.
The few good ones quit before they were fired. This the worst USA dictator ever.
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@Fallaneze
Fuller states that God{ Universe } may have created humans to see if a mind-accessing-creatures have ability destroy he integrity of Universe/God.
Just as the finite and eternally existent, occupied space Universe has not purpose, humanity has no purpose other than the purpose humans apply to it.
There exists no great cosmic plan.
However, there does exist the greater cosmic blueprint, that, I believe exists inside, and on the surface of every black hole as gravitational fabric-of-space, that sometimes is transformed into Observed Time{ reality } /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ of space.
Primary Set of 87 leads to 2ndary and increasing sets of Great Circle Planes LINK
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Wilbur Ross attempts to fire NOAA employees that go against USA dictator on Huricane Dorians pathway to Alabama { NOT }.
This is Trumps and cultist follower draining the swamp and bringing the best { worst } people.
USA is not a banana republic of cultist Trump followers who love Russias Putin and N. Koreas Kim Ung Pooh, over Pelosi and schumer.
Go figure. This is because bigoted racistwhite nationalistic supremacist are so full of hate for those of another color or religion they will stoop to any level of no moral integrity to and keep Earth white. Sad and sick humans.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
No better choice than Trump . Stronn, you have your head in a hole-in-the-ground of ignorance and denial of so many self evident truths.the problem is, for many imo, there's isn't a better choice in 2020.
Trump is con-artist whose endeavors are only for self interest. Your a Trumpist cult member just as some in authority at NOAA are also Trumpist cult members who fear speaking out against a dictator who will eat any who go against him.
Sad :--(
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NOAA employee speaks out saying the have been instructed by company authorities to not say anything that speaks out against Donald Trumps false sharpie hurrican narrative.
USA peoples lose to lies and false narrative again.
'Sharpies" stock on rise. Were sharpie and Trumps in cahoots before all of this? Sure if you believe any of the many right-wing nutcase conspiracy theories.
I think we have some Trump cultist as NOAA.
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'Sharpies" stock rises as result of Trumps bragging about his set of sharpies that he denied the truth of him personally using to altar a weather map of Hurricane Dorians projected pathway, days later.
This is a inadavertent captilistic marketing that immature and ignorant inbreds thinks is a genius politician.
And some people wonder why humans may go extinct.
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