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@Greyparrot
My grocery bill is burning in 2024
I understand the vote your wallet concept.  Been their done that and still do, to whatever degree.

 The primary differrence between red - Orange/MAWA Rage and blue freedom of democracy,  is the degree of false narrative being espoused.

Comparing your personal burning ' grocery bill ' to annihilation of humanity via Boreal Forests potential releases of smoke ---block out sun-- and great increase PPM value of greenhouse gases appears to me as very narrow minded.

After Mt. Pinatuba { Phillipines volcano } its ash plume  blocked enough infra-red radiation  to drop the Earths temperature by 1 degree for that following year

Those who truly want to help their grocery bill and save humanity from extinction  need the following:

1} truthful education, not a false narrative,

2} reduce population growth, as,

3} a plan for future of humanity is being developed ---maybe General Artificial Intelligence { GAI } can assimilate enough relevant data into a basic plan, to significantly motivate a move by humanity towards a unification { One World or bust Future } ---.
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@Greyparrot
That's what the 2025 outrage is all about

You mean Orange Rage, Orange Greyparrot.

Jan 6th and all of Orange Trumpet and Make America White Again { MAWA } is about.

Nation against nation is not going to work. Capitalism is not fixing this lack of unified humanity, to not annihilate ourselves in next 50 years or so.

Canada is burning again, and red Trumpet/MAWA  is not the best way forward. The blue alternative is Kamala and VP.

False narrative vs much less false narrative.

Gaza is burning. 

Humanity unite,  via Meta-space mind over matter, or bust.  Perhaps too late already because of the PPM of greenhouse gases already in atmosphere. I dunno.

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Field As Horn Torus > Dual Invaginated { Not Yet }
So lets say --- for static/motion-less simplicity sake--- the minimal atomic particle ---ex the ultra-short-lived meson--- is composed of only two Quantum Tori { 3D Great Circles } so that is 10 nodal events of physical reality,  inside-the-toroidal-tube and not the outer or inner set of surface nodal events.

10^2, minus 10 = 90 divided by 2 = 45 { a whole rational number } and 45 lines-of-relationship, rationally ---{ no irrational or infiinties if we nature stops there}---  reduces to 5 that we addressed previously as the 5 nodal events inside-the-tube as physical reality, and here above we say two of those = 10 nodal events of physical reality sharing a --lets say at 90 degree orientation yet sharing a common center of Gravity and that central location { * } is outside of the tori and,

between the Dark Energy negative geodesic curvature )*( of the two Horn tori.

This below pattern is not correct, it is just what comes to mind first when trying to envision these two 3D patterns of numerical tori intefering.

............0............
...........3p...........
......9..................
.......................12
0...3p...6...9...12
.....12...................
.................9.....
...........3p...........
............0............ 

Well thats weird. I dont logically see the 9 and 12 appearing in my above numerically interfering pattern, so I went back and attempted to place them in the pattern.

Without a true graphic animation, I will never know what patterned lines-of-relationship and locations of nodal events would be.
We only know that there is 45 lines-of-relationship and perhaps we say those 45 LoR are the field of physical  reality, of which, we humans may only isolate some lesser number.

Again, this above 45 is used for simplicity sake i.e. the true Quantum Space-time particle, may have a much higher frequency of nodal events, not just the minimal set of 18/0 that is the root core of possibility.

What higher frequency might that be?  I have no idea. Those who discover it ---because the match it current physics mass values----, would be the dream of Meta-space minds/intellect through out Universe. Ha ha!

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definition of "fascism"
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@3RU7AL
@prefix
Government rides on the tail of Giant { Corporate Capitallism }. B Fullers 1979 book about this was ' Grunch of the Giants. '

Soviet CCCP { goverment } lost out to Corporate Capitalism. China adopted capitalism also to whatever degree.

Capitalism rules humanity, and the feud of competition between nations ex mainly CCCP, USA --and all nations--- led too the  unfortunate ecological conditions we find ourselves in today.

Canadian forests are  burning again this year, and they are close to the perma-frost tundra of Boreal Forests.

The Hidden Glue..." Permafrost is found under vast areas of tundra and boreal forest in the Arctic regions of Alaska, Canada, Scandinavia, Finland and Russia. But as CLAIRE TREAT explains, it is warming and thawing everywhere, with consequences not only for local people and wildlife, but for us all.

Permafrost is the word for frozen ground in cold regions where temperatures remain below freezing for much of the year. But the word itself is becoming something of a misnomer as permafrost becomes less permanent in response to climate warming, which is occurring far more quickly and having more extreme consequences in the polar regions. "...

Mind { Meta-space } over matter has not been accomplished well enough by humans on Earth, otherwise we would not find ourselves in this situation.
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A comfortable lie, or an uncomfortable truth?
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@3RU7AL
@ADreamOfLiberty
3RU....you will slowly go blind....lose your hearing.....become less mobile.....weaker and more forgetful

I remember when they use to say that about masturbation.

Now they say it about aging. :--)) o ((--:

Old minds never die, the just fall of the track and get lost a field of ....!@#$%^&*(.......

Eternally absolute cosmic principles are their to be accessed by those with the ability seperate all of wavy fields of this, that and the other to find the relevant significance to question.

Dreamlib....If however you know that one is a bed and one is a rock you can make a choice to seek comfort and your knowledge gave you power over your destiny, which as it happens (evolution and stuff) makes our brains much happier than anything else in the universe.

Orgasm makes my brain and body very happy, or, in a state of mild euphoria{?}, or whatever that feeling is.

I once snorted a white powder substance and they told me it is ' Angel Dust '. ---" What Is Phencyclidine (PCP)?
People most often take this drug to chase the high that can make you feel detached from your body. "...

This was the most intense, 30 minutes of euphoria ive ever experienced,  and the come down was equally the worst mental-body  experience from a substance I ever had.

Angel Dust/PCP was like an orgasm^3, to the 2nd or 3rd powering.  That come down was enough to scare me off from ever wanting to do that substance again. Thank God for that!
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@cristo71
@MarkWebberFan2
Oh yeah I forgot to add in that,

1}...' Ive been clear for years, that, the X x is numerically more complex than X y. '.... 

Yes, numerically speaking only an elephant ---ergo more lines of relationship---  has more atoms{ ergo more mass---   than human and salamander has more genetic stuff in each cell, however, an elephant nor salamande have the degree of access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego that humans do.

2} ...( o ).. one in the oven potential with women, never with man and nothing a man has is comparable in complexity to womb and its is  processing of fertilize egg.

3} ...only female animals can clone themselves naturally { see some species all/only female Geckos } and their are other female animals that pop-out clones of themselves.  No males animal exists or every will that do that.

4} ....lab experiments show women's brain are more bilaterally active when they and men are asked series of questions....

cristo71 posted this link about man and woman regarding complexity.

What I would point out regarding that flicker pic, is that, a saying about sex goes like this,

5} Woman needs a reason,

5a} Man just needs a place, generally speaking, as of course not all women or men are the same the others of their sex.

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@MarkWebberFan2
" Are women more complex than men? This age-old question has sparked countless debates and discussions. Some argue that women's emotions and thought processes are more intricate and multifaceted, leading to a greater level of complexity.

On the other hand, others believe that both men and women possess their own unique complexities and cannot be easily compared. This topic continues to be a subject of fascination and exploration, with no clear consensus in sight. "...

When any have logical, common sense critical thinking that invalidates any of my givens in this thread, please share. Not going to happen.
...( o ).. one in the oven potential with women, never with man and nothing a man has is comparable in complexity to womb and its is  processing of fertilize egg.

...only female animals can clone themselves naturally { see some species all/only female Geckos } and their are other female animals that pop-out clones of themselves.  No males animal exists or every will that do that.

....lab experiments show women's brain are more bilaterally active when they and men are asked series of questions....

Shall I go on with other in this thread? 
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@TheUnderdog
Canada is burning, burning burning again, and if the tundra permafrost melts away, --as it is doing---  the fires by those forests will spell end of humanity, or much closer too it.

I think we went over the  viable level of PPM for  greenhouse gases a few years back, and if that is true, then it is curtains for humanity. 

..' person{s} who fart in church must sit  ---attempt to live---   in own pew '.....  2060 proverb

So in times past, people went to the hills,  when the bright light in sky kept getting brighter, as it got closer.

Some may want to check and see if there are any hills in their area. ... /\^/\..... and those who going to the mountain top, may  not coming back. 
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@FLRW
Remember that Putin said Biden was smarter than Trump.

Obviously as his actions { Kamala pick }  Trumpets over the Trumpet/MAGA cult of false narrative, and the repeating gibberish from a slightly less older man than Biden is.  Biden is showing he is at the top of his political game.  Kamala will eat Trumpet and  throw Trumpets repeated gibberish back in his face, for a whole nation to see.

1} Roy Cooper { governor } is my initial favorite, however,  I know less than an atom of info about him and any chemistry that he and Kamal may, or, may not feel if they have a conversation.

2} Andy Boshear { a governor } is certainly pleasant enough and agreeable to non-MAGA/cultist  Republicans --at least in his state---   tho Kamala, once again, may see how conversation will feel if it happens

3 } Mark Kelly { a senator } has ear of AZ, tho not a governor, always seems less advantageous,  unless of course,  your as smart, and well liked as Obama with wife { Michelle } who is smarter than him.

4} Pennsylvania's governor Shapiro has two things going for him.  Governor and rust belt.  I dunno.  Kamala will see if there is good chemistry there, or not.

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@Amber
The. I definitely know 10 year olds smarter than you.  Not engaging with an uneducated adult putting for preposterous false equivalence analogies. 

I maybe should have guessed who began this troll-like thread.    My bad.  This fruit thread was dry { dehydrated } from the get go.

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@MarkWebberFan2
Cheers to you and your work.

Yeah, deeply geometric and numerical patterns,  hard to follow for most. .....Best yours......

I like to think I'm following a pathway to some root core of Universe's coordinates. Outer most, inner most and our inbetween { inside-quantum tube } observed time physical reality. :--)) o ((--:
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@MarkWebberFan2
Mark, you may have missed my Pi powering posts were I used a form of numerical  ' re-mormalization ' process.

Recently my new numerical  explorations encountered infinite resultants ergo, I may need to find a another ' re-normalization technique, however, take note in the following, that, when dividing 10 by 2.5  --instead of 3--- I get and irrational and not an infinite resultant.

I used 2.5 because, in Synergetics, Fuller envisions the Vector Equiliibrium --12-around-1 spheres--- as two halves of 2.5.  I wont go into that part deeply only that, 10 is key to frequency of 12-around-one sphere accounting { 10^2 } and that when the VE ---as jitterbug contraction transformations---   we get left-skew Icosahedron { 5-ness } - VE - right -skew Icosahedron { 5-ness }. See 527.24 >< 527.27 for more info on that, or just move on to my recent explorations below.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oops fixing my prior error, A nucleated hexagon --in 2D quantum pattern---  minus is nuclear  vertex is 6 vertexia, not 5.  See bottom of post for 2D pattern.

Two on top/outer line Gravity,... ( 2 )....
 
Two in middle two lines Physical --Observed Time-- Reality.....v 2 ^....

Two bottom/inner line Dark Energy.....) 2 (.....

A 7th { nuclear vertex } makes for three { 0..3p..6 }. in Physical ---Observed Time--- Reality

..0.....1....2p....3p......4....5...6....

I take note of the infinite resultants below. Feynman and/or others invented ' re-normalization ' in order to deal with their infinite resultants.

  Physical reality is only associated with the 5 nuclei in the Quantums space-time pattern 18/0. And we only see/observe the the 5 nuclei of physical reality, not the outer Gravity and inner Dark Energy directly

5^2 = 25, minus 5 = 20 and divided by 2 = 10 Lines of Relationship { LoR }  .http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s02/figs/tb2701.html

10 / 3 = 3.333333....etc...

....triple this number if three or even six tori as an electron, yet they still reduce to same infinite resultant below...

3.3333.... / 3 = 1.11111....etc.....

However,

10 / 2.5 = 4

4 / 2.5 = 1.6

..note: this 2.5 process does not produce and infinite resultant rather just an irrational resultant 1.6 

A nucleated hexa-gon minus its nucleus = 6 vertexia. Not the 5 I previously posted. My bad. The following 153 is the LoR for the 18/0, Quantum Space-time Torus set of nodal events and it reduces to 5.666....etc.......ergo and infinite

153 { LoR } > 51 > 17 > 5.666666.....

5.66666.... minus 4 = 1.666666

See original below

153 / 3 = 51 { a whole rational }
 
Ok, so that was the new tantalizing numerical find for 153 lines-of-relationship in the minimal, 18/0,  Quantum Space-time Torus
 
18/0
 
18/0 torus divided by 3 = 6 i.e. 3 * 6 = 18.  ---of course 36 combinatorial presentations of quarks in Universe---old news
 
6 / 3 = 2 and I arrive at a numerical twoness, similar to Fullers arriving at fundamental 2-ness of Universe, via Universe always being off-center/tainted by either one negative or positive tetrahedron. If I recall from Synegetics correctly. Yeah good luck with that  ole memory eh?
 
Ive not had time or initiative { yet } to further investigate numerical 51 in a cosmic sense.
 
51 / 3 = 17.  I recall mathematical find by some historical mathematician { Hilbert or Gilbert } of signififcance, tho I cant recall the specific find of his in regards to 17 unique-ness.
 
17 / 3 = 5.666666666....etc and that ends the the prior two subdivisions of 153 > 51 > 17 > 5.666666.....
 
Below is the first nucleated hexagonal set of nodal events in the 3D, 18/0, Quantum Space-time Torus tho here is only the more simple to observe pattern in a 2D format

..1..................5.....................Gravity is not not quantized/observed directly by humans
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0.........................6...............Physical Reality aka Observed { quantzsed }  Time
.............3p...........................Physical Reality aka Observe { quantized } Time
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.......2p........4......................Dark Energy is not quantized/observed directly  by humans


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@IlDiavolo
Why do you insist on that? Haven't you ever wanted to grab a juicy pussy out there? 😁

Your confused to confuse me with Trumpet. Trumpet is known rapist if I recall correctly and two differrent women paid or unpaid had affairs with him.

Most men appreciate beauty not take advantage of it. I think your confused in more ways than one and this is your own doing as my guess is, that your a MAGA { MA-White Again } type person.  Sorry to hear that for your sake and sake of humanity.

Not that Trumpet would change the outcome of humanity in the next 100 or so years. I dunno
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@Greyparrot
Blah bah blah all I hear are the usual excuses for failure from entitled libtards.

Pregnant woman's bodily autonomy has nothing to do with your above.  Try again?

Maybe you need a session with CA prosecutor.  H,mm lets see now, who comes to mind?

Its not Trumpet or the guy stated true things about Trumpet in 2016 and now wants to erase them from history at least in his on historical memory.
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@3RU7AL
@n8nrgim
@DavidAZZ
Take note of some common { unity? } agreement for an uncomfortable truth in this thread.  Why is that?

1} Absolute truths,

2} Relative truths,

3} False narrative mixed in with above 1 and/or 2.




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@DavidAZZ
The reason I dislike it is that it is just against nature, whether you believe in God or the primordial God of evolution.  Nothing ever procreated or lived on by having sex it's own sex.  It's weird, it's disgusting, but again, to each it's own.

Loving others is not weird.

Grabbing strange pudding by the crotch is weird. I asked Chatgtpai about this.

chatgtpai .... "
To "grab pudding by the crotch" is a colloquial expression that means to take control or assert oneself in a situation, often in a bold or audacious manner.

This phrase is typically used to convey a sense of confidence and assertiveness in taking charge of a situation, similar to the way one might seize control of a slippery or elusive object.

It can also imply a sense of taking a risk or seizing an opportunity with determination and gusto. Overall, grabbing pudding by the crotch signifies a bold and assertive approach to handling a challenging or uncertain circumstance. "...


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@FLRW
Did you know that Trump spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice box because it said "concentrate"?

Ha ha!   Orange juice, orange hair,  and  squishy yellow banana penis?

Supported and encouraged by MAGA men who, like Trumpet,  want to go out grab strange pudding by the crotch, and,

MAGA women who want to:

1} have their pudding grabbed by strange men, and/or,

2}  grab strange  pudding by the crotch and/or,

3}  eat green, yellow or dark fermented banana with the blessing of the most conservative men justices on USA supreme court.

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@DavidAZZ
I feel bad for women that have been raped or abused, but it's not the child's fault.  Kill the rapist, not the baby.

fetus/baby  organism of pregnant woman, does not equal,  baby/human individual who has taken its first breath and umbilical cord is severed.

The distinction is a real as night and day.   There is no twilight between surviving on nutrients and oxygen from pregnant woman ---not yet a mother---  and,

baby/human taking first inspiration of breath { air/oxygen }.

Why MAGA and others cannot respect this distinction is just their inability to lack control of women ---read your evangelical text---  via pregnant women. Sic-n-head is what these type are.

These MAGA and others are proof we still live in Dark Ages { Bucky Fuller 1980's } } or going into the Dark Ages { Carl Sagan 1990's }.

These type are of the ..' the south will rise again '.. and ..." The Middle Ages, also known as the Dark Ages or the Medieval Period, is an era of time in Europe stretching from the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 CE until the Protestant Reformation of 1517, when the Catholic Church faced its greatest challenge yet. "..

..." The Catholic Church became a pivotal force that affected the lives of all who dwelled on the lands. "..
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@ADreamOfLiberty
What foundation is implied by this distinction anyway? Killing is murder unless the target depends on you for existence?
Fetus/baby organism of pregnant woman ---at any point of gestation----- does not equal a born out, independent  baby/human individual.


Independent individual  as far as oxygen is concerned ----read again first inspiration of breath---  no longer being fed via a umbilical tube from the mother.

The clueness need not reply unless they actually want to learn about truth. You have no desire for truth in regards to virtual rapist sticking their noses into pregnant womans bodily business.  Sic-n-head MAGA and others.

..*(~o )*.....  = one in the oven fetus/baby from moment of conception{ fertilizatioin } till born out and umbilical chord severed

...^ v ^....  = born out, breathing, independent baby/human individual...has taken its first in-spiration of air/oxygen on its own

Get a grip on your own moral reality and leave pregnant women alone unless they ask you stick you nose into their bodily business. Please, and thank you.

.............................simple, not complex to grasp or to adhere too..............................................

MAGA and some other shun simple truth as they lack some of the most basic moral integrity, do not commit virtual rape or pregnant women.

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Random Stuff
Kamala Harris vs  Trumpet

...*(~o )*.... fetus/baby attached umbilical cord,  vs,

.......^ v ^....independent human individual that have taken their first in-spire-ation { inspiration } of air/oxygen

Euclidean tetrahedron aka triangular based pyramid is likened to a spire, steeple, conical tower i.e. larger base pointed at top.

Spire = ..."a tapering conical or pyramidal structure on the top of a building, typically a church tower.
Similar:
steeple
belfry
flèche
shikara



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@Owen_T
...as when you strip down all the layers, abortion is killing babies.....

False.

My mother bore me out as breathing indepdent baby and the umbilical chord that fed me nutrients { includes oxygen } was severed, ergo, a fetus/baby that became and independent from my mother, baby/slash human being individual.

Your those like you enjoy sticking you nose where the sun dont shine. Inside a pregnant womans body without her consent. It is is a sic-n-head virtual rapist attitude endorsed by MAGA and their evangelical supporters.

You and others like you need to keep your nose out where the sun shines, and stop pretending you have some moral high ground back by some almighty divine deity who gives you this moral authority of womens' bodily anutonomy

...*(~o )*.....  = one in the oven fetus/baby from moment of conception{ fertixlizatioin } till born out and umbilical chord severed

...^ v ^....  = born out, breathing, independent human individual...has taken its first in-spiration of air/oxygen on its own

Get a grip on your own moral reality and leave pregnant women alone unless they ask you stick you nose into their bodily business. Please, and thank you.

.............................simple, not complex to grasp or to adhere too..............................................



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@FLRW
@WyIted
Chatgtpai.....To "grab pudding by the crotch" is a colloquial expression that means to take control or assert oneself in a situation, often in a bold or audacious manner.

This phrase is typically used to convey a sense of confidence and assertiveness in taking charge of a situation, similar to the way one might seize control of a slippery or elusive object. It can also imply a sense of taking a risk or seizing an opportunity with determination and gusto.

Overall, grabbing pudding by the crotch signifies a bold and assertive approach to handling a challenging or uncertain circumstance. "

Obviously chatgtpai is likened to Data or Spock, sort of not totally in tune with the context of the moment.

col·lo·qui·al
/kəˈlōkwēəl/

adjective
adjective: colloquial
  1. (of language) used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary.
    "colloquial and everyday language"

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@zobb88
I tried it

Chatgtpai..." No, the difference between Pi^4 and Pi^3 is not approximately 66.40281435. The actual difference is approximately 31.00627668. "

Yes, correct answer.  YAY! I need to save this Chatgtpai site.

Thanks zobb

I also asked, what does it mean to grab pudding by the crotch.

chatgtpai .... "
To "grab pudding by the crotch" is a colloquial expression that means to take control or assert oneself in a situation, often in a bold or audacious manner.

This phrase is typically used to convey a sense of confidence and assertiveness in taking charge of a situation, similar to the way one might seize control of a slippery or elusive object.

It can also imply a sense of taking a risk or seizing an opportunity with determination and gusto. Overall, grabbing pudding by the crotch signifies a bold and assertive approach to handling a challenging or uncertain circumstance. "...

Ha ha! Love it.


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@FLRW
@WyIted
No it wasn't. It was a protest. Bro I am republican. We don't want to kill politicians
 At worst we would have yelled at them. 
Hey FLRW, do you ever get the idea that some folks on this forum have been out to lunch since day one?

Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence! Oh yeah, they { MAGA } dont believe in the truth as being of any sigificance to humanity. To MAGA truth is like a gnat { the truth } buzzing around their eyes, and they just want to slap it away.

I think truth is the pudding.  And not the strangers crotch of  pudding who Trumpet and MAGA support grabbing eating if possible.

Bodily autonomy for women is last on most MAGA Republicans mind. Virtual rapist, crotch grabbers, and their  list of a lack of moral integrity goes along with the evangelical Bible court { some Supreme Court justices perhaps }.


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@DavidAZZ
Best some of you grab some strangers pudding by the crotch before the truest MAGA followers get all of it first. Just saying, grab it when the time is right.

Forget about bodily autonomy for women. Many Republican women apparrently may have forgot that a long time ago.

Do what their husbands say, or,  face the wrath of their imaginary allegiance to Evangelical Bible court.

Yes Dark Ages are coming ---Carl Sagan { 1990's }---, and/or Dark Ages are here ---Bucky Fuller { 1981 }---.

1995 Here’s what the inimitable Carl Sagan wrote:

“Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.”


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@DavidAZZ
  If he were looney, then he would have only nuts as his following, but since majority of the right is on Trump's side, I think Trump was more of a spark plug to the MAGA engine.

A majority of loonies in Republican party. Surely you jest Mr Feynman. 

Loonies who support grabbing pudding by the crotch before their eating the pudding, is not loony in their minds. And this includes the nutter evangelicals supporting the Trumpet horn of repeated false narrative's.

This goes back to Trumpets claiming Obama is not a USA citizen, and now 140 people who worked for Trumpet are behind the Project 25 to show a birth certificate along with a 2ndary proof of USA citizenship.   This is all about trying to ...' make america white again '...movement. 

Voter fraud is rare and Project 25 loonies know this.  Both Carl Sagan  and Bucky Fuller { 1981 }  made comments that humanity is moving into a new dark age, or as Fuller put it, were already in a new Dark Age
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@prefix
Expand. I do not understand your question

Apparrently your not familiar with what MAGA's new Project 25 ---behind the scenes platform--- is proposing.

Before voting you must show birth certificate and at least one other type of USA citizenship.

I know voter fraud is rare in USA voting system and this is an attempt by Trumpet.s cult group to make america white again { MAWA }.

If you dont like it, then you can go crying to your MAMA.  That would be Kamala Harris who will also have to show her birth certificate and 2ndary proof of citizenship.

Obama knows all about this Project 25 Cult movement with Trumpet using his flack of moral integrity in his false narrative Trumpet, to deny he knows who they are.

..." Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved "....

..." In fact, at least 140 people who worked in the Trump administration had a hand in Project 2025, a CNN review found, including more than half of the people listed as authors, editors and contributors to “Mandate for Leadership,” the project’s extensive manifesto for overhauling the executive branch."....


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@Owen_T
O_T.....Obviously not great. Thankfully, he's fine. So, what are your thoughts?

There is no place of political violence in USA or other.

Apparrently the Jan 6th insurrectionist didnt get the memo. Maybe Trumpet sent the memo to incorrect addresses, or, maybe he ask Gulliano to cover that task.

Trumpet has 60 million cult followers willing to do his false narrative bidding. 

Best some of you grab some of the pudding by the crotch before the truest followers get all of it first. Just saying, grab it when the time is right.

Forget about bodily autonomy for women. Many Republican women apparrently may forgot that a long time ago. Do what their husbands say or face wrath of their imaginary allegiance to Evangelical Bible court.


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@IwantRooseveltagain
When Trump nominated this idiot to the Federal Bench, the National Bar Association rated her as “unqualified” for the job. She has no business being a Federal Judge with her lack of experience. This is what happens when you elect a moron to lead the country. He brings in more morons to high levels of government.
And lack of moral integrity i.e. a moral integrity that truly protects womens bodily autonomy and the men who support those women.

Not many, if any republicans in that catagory of true moral integrity.  The cult of Trumpet is strong Luke Roosevelt. They parade as some evangelical group that supports the grabbing of pudding by the crotch as normal behaviour for men and irrespective of moral character.
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@IlDiavolo
People want a radical change and Trump is promising that. So people will vote for him as long as he keep his promises.
Narcissist Trumpet's change will be to institute even more  radical change as in ..' power to the insurrectionist movement.'.. that will make Jan 6th violence look like a neighborhood backyard hot dog/barbecue cookout.

The proof either way is always in the pudding.  So reach out and be first in line to reach out grab some pudding by the crotch.

This is only the first week, give Trumpet to change his face back to the king of the false narrative.

Our greatest hope is that women with moral integrity come together to stand for bodily autonomy and that there is enough men of courage to support those women and these moral integrity ideas.

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@prefix
Prefix, I think you meant to be in Wylteds much newer MEEP proposal thread. Maybe not. Here is recent link to his thread.
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@Swagnarok
Yeah, I think it's generally understood around here that clicking on any link shared by Wylted is a bad idea. I'd maybe risk what looked like a news article, but that's it.

Wylted is not the issue, sorry if I was not clear on this. Discord is the issue and it has been issue with discord for over a year or more.

Hopefully after day or so, Firefox browser will resolve itself with the Discord issue.  So Im in here at DArt using Firefox, it is just Discord has me looped out with the verify email address loop issue.

This is one of the links to Discord advice to fix various issues and in this case specifically
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043677651--Email-is-Already-Registered-Errors

" email address Already Registered..." The system only allows for one email address to be tied to an account, this means you cannot have multiple Discord accounts that are associated with one email address.

If you try to register an email address with an account and you receive the error message, “Email is Already Registered”, this means there’s another Discord account with this email address already. In that case, please try logging into the account instead of trying to register a new one! "...

So I got the help link to send me a bot email with various options, and I got into my DIscord account via Chrome.  If Firefox itself does not resolve issue, then I will use bot reply email to contact real person to resolve this trapped loop issue and let me get back in with Firefox pathway Ive been using for years there to my registered account. 
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@whiteflame
@WyIted
If the site goes down you can find each other on here

I dropped out of discord dart sever many months back, so I clicked on the Wylteds invite above with Firefox, and Discord got me stuck in ' error message with address ' and ' verify email ' loop, that I can not get out of, and could not use my usual Firefox bookmark avenue to get into Discord either.

so I contacted discords help form, the bot replied to my email address I use ---that is my user name also--  and it states try a differrent browser, that, I was going to do anyway, and so posted my firefox bookmark in chrome URL box, and had to write in my password, and that worked to me back into discord, Thank God for that.

Just tried firefox again, and still stuck in verify email address loop. Maybe by tommorrow it will work. If not the next step bot recommends is creating a new password, tho I dunno if that will work either, unless I follow the bot in my yahoo mail to a discord site to create the new password.

Maybe easiest to just not use Firefox anymore to go to discord.  That would make life more difficult in going back n forth between forums etc. unless I start using chrome, and that means lots of old passwords not used any more saved in chrome as well as many new bookmarks Chrome doesnt have.

SO word of warning dont use the invite link if you have  registered account already in Discord.
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@zedvictor4
Escaping Planet Earth is essential for long term species survival.

Zed, hat is the date for long is long term? If you think in the relative short term --2015 plus 50 years { 2065 }---   humanity will not have annihilated themselves, then will they make it another fifty years { 2115 }? 

Mars will be the next stage of an essential learning curve...

Agreed, tho the learning curve starts on how to survive on Earth first.  Im more of an Earth first - ter type person.


Antarctica is always accessible.
Ask a Penguin.

Antarctic Ice is frozen fresh water and water is the basis of carbon based survival. Antarctic is so much easier for humans to access compared to Mars.

You get that Zed. The best thing that jet planes and rockets to outer space have to offer us is slowing the infra-radiation effects to and already rising global temperature.  We learned the depth of this effect in real time after 9/11 in USA, when world wide jet traffic stopped for 3 days for most part, and the info started coming in over the next year, of how temperatures had risen from incoming infra-red radition, not be being blocked by the exhaust fumes of jet plane traffic.

Humanity has yet to ' get real ' ---awakened enough or in time--- ergo, Im pessimistic of getting to Mars much less surviving there, is going to occur before humanities end-date-on-Earth.  Label me pessimistic is fine, as long as it is based on humanities past behaviors



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@IwantRooseveltagain
The virtual rapists have no idea that they are  using  ' forcibly' politic tactics  --that they align with spiritual or moral---- and the evangelical groups are at forefront of forcibly virtual rape of pregnant womens bodily autonomy.

Unity of political peace with false narrative MAGA  Cultist's is a nice intention by democrats.  It will last until Trumpet begins his false narrative again, and the then MAGA Cultist do their MAGA thing.   

We live in a global humanity, and nation against nation is not unity for peace.

Will humanity awaken and smell the roses before it is too late. Sure it is nice to be positive and think say yes they will vote for unity of nations and global peace.

On the other hand Ive sincere doubts of humanities abilities to unify for peace and value for ecological environment that sustains humanity on Earth.  MAGA is just one of many reasons I doubt humanity is going to make it beyond..........2015 - ? { 2065 Issac Newtons end date? } or some relatively{?}  near future.

Label me pessimist. Ok, as long as it is based on the empirical evidence of humanity's past behaviors.

START treaty in 90's to stop flying B-bomber 24hrs each day was a good start to ending Mutual Assured Destruction, however, it does not end M.A.D.
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++MEEP Proposal: Ban Stochastic Terrorism++
My { Ebuc } vote is nay. If there if official place to vote I cant find it. Sorry
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@WyIted
This post is the exact type of stochastic terrorism that caused Trump to almost be assassinated. Cur it out

I misspoke. Here is correction in bold.

MAGA cultist is so narrowed minded, they only see violence as their path to freedom, irrespective of where violence comes from.  To the MAGA cultist violence by nutter is symbol of victory for Golden Trumpet and a continued false narrative.

 Ive posted around here of  studies done on the most violent tendency political groups and it is Republicans and MAGA.  Your above is just continued false narrative because you have no validity of comment to offer. Typical of MAGA Cultist Trumpet followers who have no moral integrity in support of pregnant womans bodily autonomy. 

A win by MAGA is a loss for women world wide.  Will USA peoples stay choose a more narrowed minded focus, or other?

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Assasinations or their Attempts
Lincoln 1865 >

Garfield 1881 >

Teddy Roosevelt 1912 >

John F Kennedy  1963 > 

[ Martin Luther King 1968 > ]

[ Bobby Kennedy 1968  > ]

Ronald Regan 1981 >

 {{ MAGA Trumpet 2024 > }} 
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The heroism of Donald Trump
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The nutters are always with us.

The chaos is balanced by the rational, common sense critical thinking humanity or not.
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Proving a negative.
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@zedvictor4
When a nutter, attempts to assassinate a nutter of different caliber,  double negative is proven
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@IlDiavolo
Trump was going to win anyway but after the shooting there is no doubt about it. 
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Then you doubt the women of moral integrity of this USA who have no use for virtual rapist, attacking the very moral structure of pregnant women in USA and world wide.

It is more the just Republican vs Democrat. It is Republican vs moral integrity of bodily autonomy for all women on Earth.

MAGA cultist is so narrowed minded, they only see violence as their path to freedom, irrespective if the violence comes from.  To the MAGA cultist violence by nutter is symbol of victory of Golden Trumpet and continued false narrative.
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Nutters like to create a false narrative in their chaotic mind and we have some percentage{ some degree }  of that happening  with many MAGA Cultist.

Shoot the extraterrestrials  first, ask the extraterrestrials questions later.

If you cant get close enough to ask questions, then just see the chaos the create around them and that for some, to get their questions answered.

They become MAGA, or the use MAGA ---Trumpet in this case--   to make a seemingly forever existing, Golden Trumpet -like name for themselves.

They dont realize and dont even rally care if it is false narrative gold their attaching themselves too.  Tom Foolery at its best.
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Nutters can be of any political foray or none.  Like Trumpet the operate from chaotic place in their mind.

Trumpet raised with gift of money and a future, the shooter not so much, yet they share this common or similarity of chaos of mind, to varing degrees.

I think shooter may have been attracted to chaos of Trumpet being in his in his community and saw and opurtunity to make a name for himself.

All the other irrational rhetoric on various thread lacks common sense and deeper critical thought of these two psychies similarties of chaos in their mind.

Chaos attracting chaos.  IN this case one feeding off the others large personality  and this brings a large personality to the shooter, and Trumpet being in his community was a perfect storm.

No deep ' they ' as in Biden and the democrats are behind this.   I think we around this forum of chaotic issues, and like so many ---not all but some larger perecentage---  who walking around with guns on their hips, just hoping they get a chance to shoot some one.  This USA chaotic, not patriotic, Mutual Assured Destruction, tho, not sure how many actually realize what carring a gun on their hip every where the go, actually means in a more and more chaotic world of people finding more and more chaos in their minds.

Order in the court, order in humanity?  Only time will tell. Some chaos is good, and too much false narrative chaos is not. Simple to grasp, hard to institute into reality.


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@Moozer325
I still wouldn’t rule out just some random crackpot who didn’t care about politics though

 The nutters are always with us, and they can be of any political foray."..

..." As adults, we like to think we’ve put away most childish things. But infantile and childish ways of experiencing ourselves and life linger in our unconscious mind. That baby in the adult’s psyche can be highly mischievous and harmful, producing chaotic reactions.

...There are some childish things we still retain and need to put away.

..Early childhood’s influences on our adult experiences have parallels to the scientific concept of Chaos theory. This mathematical theory attempts to understand erratic behavior as it occurs in certain nonlinear systems such as weather patterns. The theory proposes, as one example, that small air disturbances in one location can result, days or weeks later, in storms or hurricanes more than a thousand miles away.

..Comparatively, the unconscious mind of adults is buffeted by gale-force winds of emotional chaos that originated as an infantile effect decades earlier. Emotional associations from our distant past now buffet our life in incredible, mysterious, spectacular, and frequently painful and self-defeating ways."....

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@MarkWebberFan2
All the more reason to cultivate one's own unique interest instead of hearing about what's actually appropriate or balanced.

..." As adults, we like to think we’ve put away most childish things. But infantile and childish ways of experiencing ourselves and life linger in our unconscious mind. That baby in the adult’s psyche can be highly mischievous and harmful, producing chaotic reactions.

...There are some childish things we still retain and need to put away.

..Early childhood’s influences on our adult experiences have parallels to the scientific concept of Chaos theory. This mathematical theory attempts to understand erratic behavior as it occurs in certain nonlinear systems such as weather patterns. The theory proposes, as one example, that small air disturbances in one location can result, days or weeks later, in storms or hurricanes more than a thousand miles away.

..Comparatively, the unconscious mind of adults is buffeted by gale-force winds of emotional chaos that originated as an infantile effect decades earlier. Emotional associations from our distant past now buffet our life in incredible, mysterious, spectacular, and frequently painful and self-defeating ways."....
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@zedvictor4
@MarkWebberFan2
USA Republicans have little to no moral integrity, for pregnant woman's bodily autonomy and least regard for truth over a false narrative.

Republican = sic-n-head ergo Zero dimensionality of moral integrity.

Democrats =  complex set of dimensions, that, at the pinnacle of their 8 dimensional highest peak, are aware of and support a woman's right to bodily autonomy.

Trumpet and MAGA morons = lack of moral integrity ergo, years of denying truth and supporting a false narrative that encourages violence.

The nutters are always with us, and they can be of any political party and no political party.  They exist within and orderly world, yet may become more prevalent in and a chaotic world. I dunno of any studies in this area.

.."Populations of organisms in natural ecosystems fluctuate a lot, and a key question for ecologists is whether those fluctuations are regular (varying around some theoretically "stable" equilibrium), random (completely unpredictable), or chaotic. Chaotic systems, like the weather, can be predictable in the short term but not in the long term, and they are highly sensitive to small differences in the initial conditions. "....
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Who says humanity isn't progressing?

Progressing to ward self annihilation, ---hydrogen bombs fast/erratic climate change slow---   then yes I agree.

My prognostication was for 2015 > and where 8 years beyond that  date.

The nutters are always with us, and they can be of any political foray.

The truth is that, in current times, Trumpet and MAGA, have spurred violent rhetoric more than other political parties and Ive posted around the studies done on this.

The Trumpet MAGA are the largest set of truth deniers ergo they are the source of most encouragement of violence from their all to common false narrative.

Sick n the head breads more sic-n-the-head ex some of the worst is their virtual rape of pregnant women by sticking their virtual noses into pregnant women's bodily business, without their consent.

Neither does the USA's supreme court show  compassion for women's bodily autonomy in these regards because it is the male republicans and male independents and who are sic-n-head in these regards to women.

If for no other reason, people of moral integrity should vote for the political party who support women and their rights to body autonomy.  And that surely is not the Repulicans. Sad :--( o )--:

Those who disagree with that, are sic-n-head and need counseling on some basic moral integrity at minimum.
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I think that most Dads think that their kids are twits.

I thought I knew it all 16, of course, I didnt, howver, even tho my father called my a smart-aleck, most children do get better education than parents and are smarter in some or many ways.

Until they get old and past it, and we think that they are twits.

I noticed when my step-son came home after few years living on his own and various job much he had matured and told him for sure.

The difference between Scotland  and England is an imaginary dimensionless  line. The grass is similarly green.

False the grass is always greener on the other side.  Ha ha :--))o((-:  Every fool knows that.

And remmber Jerry Falware the Christian Right preacher from south Carlolina or wherever in early 90's. 

There is a list of jokes why the chicken cross the road.  Jerry of course thought is was cause the chicken was gay. Thats what it means to cross-over to the other side.  The damn chicken is gay Jerry would tell you.  Ha!

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Waves exhibited as finite dots to present orbitals of an atom i,e, energy levels of an atoms electrons whose fuzziness has a defineable character.


Spherical > Spheroids > Toroid > Plus
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@Sidewalker
@Moozer325
Just think about how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of the people are even dumber than that.

Ok the average Joe .." Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (/ˈwɜːrzəlbɑːkər/ WUR-zəl-bah-kər; December 3, 1973 – August 27, 2023), commonly known as "Joe the Plumber", was an American conservative activist and commentator."..

He ran for political office in Ohio and lost.

..." According to the recent census, our average American is a white female, between 30 and 34 years old, with German ancestors. If we use the median age of 32, years she was born in 1989, when the most popular girl’s name was Jessica. She lives in California and is married. She’s a five-foot, four-inch brunette, and the mother of a two-year-old boy......

.....Financially, this average American earns $47,000 a year, owes debts totaling $87,000, and has a net worth of about $8,000. But she’s not discouraged. Jessica still believes in the American dream, and that she can attain it, despite the rising costs of health insurance and childcare. She believes that if she works hard, she’ll succeed in life and move up the economic ladder to enjoy a standard of living as good as or better than her parents’. "...

So the average Joe Bloe is a woman. H,mm? At according to the Sat evening post
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