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@Greyparrot
Make Azov Donbas Again??  (MADA)

I dunno info about that stuff. 

What I do know, is that for a few years now, when I go shopping or other places  I see what appears to me to be local yahoo's who like to wear T-shirts, that,  have these various terms and symbolisms  of guns, bloody trees, take back our freedom, independence and whatever, etc that obviosly  invoke violence.

I think these people are actually  sort of clueless t what it is they think their espousing and the consequences if they and others were to act out these words and symbolisms on their T-shirts as to what is the issue that they want to go to war with who over what exaclty?

Yes, this the USA and I think sort of yahoo semi-nutter ignorance on a T-shirt as if they actually have any serious consideration of what it is they think their invoking. 

End-date for humanity 2015 and counting


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㊙️ THE STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR ATHEISM (TSAFA)
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@baggins
“CaN yOu ProVe obJeCtIVe ReALIty eXisTs???!!!”

Hit your finger with a steel hammer once, twice, three times more, and see if you remain unconvinced of a visual of pixels on your screen and your above statement about reality { physical }


Atheism is not holding any positive beliefs about gods. Atheist is someone who withholds beliefs because they are unconvinced.

Duh yeah, that is 3RU's focal point of the topic. Glad to see you get it and agree.

God is word and exists as such. Ask 100 differrent people how it is defined and get may at least 50 differrent Bibilical-like answers, with perhaps, that, they all agree that this word God created the finite, occupied space Universe and this of course means the word God created all of the Meta-space cosmic principles and physical laws that complement the finite, occupied space Universe.

Another way of stating the latter above is to replace those words with the word God created ' everything ' and is everything, as my Seagrams 7 drinking mother would explain to me. 

God > Everything > God i.e. God is everything  including God and God created itself  --its own being---.  Oops is God a being?  Now we get back into asking 100 differrent people to define what a being is? Does a being occupy a space? Is a being 3 spatial dimensions plus dynamics of time flow associations?





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@Greyparrot
@FLRW
@Intelligence_06
@Sidewalker
MAGA = DADA > Dumb And Dumber Again

Tho I suppose one of those D's could represent Dementia, however, I have no idea how many MAGA/DADA's have dementia or are prone to dementia.

Ive heard coconut oil can help prevent dementia, and read that is true, tho, it is important to have enough greens in our diet to make the coconut oil prevent dementia.

My guess is, that, 10 - 30%  are more prone to violence, ergo, DAVA = Dementia and Violent Again?

..."Aggression is one of a number of behaviours – often called ‘behaviours that challenge’ – that can result from dementia. These behaviours can be just as challenging for the person as for those supporting them. Others include agitation and restlessness, walking about, and being sexually inappropriate. "

https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia
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Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
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@Mall
The point of this topic is pro choice is pro abortion.

Your intentionally misplaced/twisted concept is the topic.

"Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality."

I'm not astute enough to know the correct terminology definning your repeated thread topics actions.

Malicious? Mischievous? Trolling? Click baiting? Uncompassionate? Inconsiderate? Etc
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AI Robot Does Backflip
Democratic Robot does backflip after hearing Trumpet found guilty on all 34 Felony Charges

So who are we most afraid of Robot with no access to Meta-space mind, or,

Trumpet access to Meta-space mind and cannot do a backflip?

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What's the strongest argument for atheism?
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@3RU7AL
matter is the territory

3RU is correct. Occupied space { territory/terra-firma } includes fermionic matter and bosonic forces with the latter being what is exchanged between Fermionic particles

form is the map

3RU is correct again. Aka Meta-space pattern ergo geometry and that is what ' form ' is more specifically. Form boards hold the concrete in specific shape when it is poured and hardens over time.

the map is not the territory the two are distinguishable concepts
but they are not fundamentally dissimilar

3RU is correct again. We cannot have occupied space, without its  complementary Meta-space pattern/geometry/form/shape.

I love it when I see others around here espousing  logical, common sense critical thinking truths here at DArt. Kudos!

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34 Felony Counts Guilty
Jury gives Trumpet 34 felony counts of guiltby.

How many MAGA/DADA { Dumb and Dumber } Cultist vote considerations of Trumpet will change  with these 34 felony counts?

1% - 10% - 20% God we can only hope cant we?




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@Sidewalker
Humanity came to an end nine years ago? How did I miss that?

Hi SW, it is a repeating cyclic thing, wherein my guess is the rumor mill may have suggested the end of humanity a few times. 

1} Kubla Khan, Genhis Khan --Marco Polo may have been young worker for him? },

2} Alexander the Great,

3} Roman Empire, --lest we not forget old testament end-of-days end of time etc preceding Romans perhaps? 96 C.E is date I found---

4} Nazi Hitler,

5} Atomic Bomb and the documentary on Admiral Rickover --built first commerical nuclear power plant-- is shown saying, that, he believe nuclear power --ergo hydrogen bombs-- would be the end of humanity,

6} the Bucky Fullers prognastication, --if humanity does not unify its 200 or so nations it is curtains for humanity--

6} Trumpet with his Apocalyspe vice president M. Pence, --- no deals with Iran policy was/is stupid as even the former Zbigniew Brzezinski thought if other countries are allowed to have nuclear weapons { ex Pakistan, N. Korea etc } then Iran should also be allow and it is not worth going to war over--- ...

.." Zbigniew Brzezinski: Alternative to Iran deal 'a policy of self-destruction' Renowned geostrategist Zbigniew Brzezinski explains why he supports a nuclear deal with Iran and calls out Republicans for a 'policy of self-destruction."

.." As a scholar, Brzezinski belonged to the realist school of international relations, standing in the geopolitical tradition of Halford Mackinder and Nicholas J. Spykman,[2][3] while elements of liberal idealism have also been identified in his outlook.[4] Brzezinski was the primary organizer of The Trilateral Commission.[5]

...On March 3, 2014, between the February 22 ousting of Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych and the March 16, Crimean referendum, Brzezinski authored an op-ed piece for The Washington Post entitled "What is to be done? Putin's aggression in Ukraine needs a response."[103] He led with a link on Russian aggression; he compared Russian President Vladimir Putin's "thuggish tactics in seizing Crimea" and "thinly camouflaged invasion" to Adolf Hitler's occupation of the Sudetenland in 1938, and characterized Putin as a cartoon Benito Mussolini, but stopped well short of advocating that the U.S. go to war. Rather, he suggested that NATO should be put on high alert and recommended "to avert miscalculations". He explicitly stated that reassurances be given to "Russia that it is not seeking to draw Ukraine into NATO."[103]...

...In a September 2009 interview with The Daily Beast, Brzezinski replied to a question about how aggressive President Obama should be in insisting Israel not conduct an air strike on Iran, saying: "We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?"[98] This was interpreted by some supporters of Israel as supporting the downing of Israeli jets by the United States in order to prevent an attack on Iran.[99][100] "..



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Space-time Is What Exactly?
More specific clarity added

1} all fields > >(*)(*)< < particles are are interfering set of two or more, space-time tori, with the minimal, torus being my presented Quantum Space-time Torus with its 18 nodal events,

2}   Fields { a non-defined Meta-space pattern of  occupied space existence } >><< particles { a more defined Meta-space pattern of occupied space existence }.

.....space(*)(*)space..... fields ()()()( interfere as particles ******

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@3RU7AL
Hope this helps.

ebuc....1} fields { fermionic matter and bosonic forces } are an occupied space, complemented by Meta-space pattern { geometric positioning }.

..." The electron is extremely light, with a mass just over 0.0000000000000000000000000009 grams (or about 0.51 MeV/c2). We believe that it gains this (albeit tiny) mass due to the fact that it is influenced by the Higgs field. Without this influence, our Universe would have a completely different structure....

.." Without the Higgs field, quarks would have no mass and consequently the proton would be heavier than the neutron, since all their mass would come from their respective binding energies. Now, without the Higgs field, the W− particle would have a much smaller mass, protons would spontaneously and almost instantly decay into neutrons — we would have a Universe without protons. "
https://cms.cern/news/why-would-i-care-about-higgs-boson

.." Another thing boson fields can do is be substantially non-zero on average. Fermion fields cannot do this. The Higgs field, which is non-zero in our universe and gives mass thereby to the known elementary particles, is a boson field (and its particle is therefore a boson, hence the name Higgs boson that you will hear people use.)
Something else you can do with boson particles is form a Bose-Einstein condensate, a phenomenon predicted by Einstein back in the 1920’s but only produced in a definitive way in the 1990’s, in Nobel-Prize winning experiments described in the link above. What these experiments do in making this condensate is cause large numbers of identical boson atoms to all sit as still as a quantum mechanical object possibly can. "..
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/largehadroncolliderfaq/some-technical-concepts/fermions-and-bosons/

ebuc.... Fields { a non-defined pattern of existence } >< particles { a more defined pattern of existence }

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@FLRW
Remember that Trump said Republicans "eat their young" when they attack him.

Yeah, that does not surprise me nor any other degratory and suggested violence Trumpet espouses.  Some percentage of hi Moronic MAGA/DADA Cult members are bloodthirsty, so they love this kind of blood thirsty talk.  End date for humanity 2015 and counting.

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@sadolite
I'm sorry I am not allowed to comment in ebuc thread anymore. The thread Nazi has spoken.

My concerns with your trolling aspects was never in regards to you post #33, and sorry you think so.

I addressed the other posts by you I was referring to in another post to you. And that post included the other thread by me, that, you were just trolling me repeatedly in , ergo, you self primed ebuc to take offense to your continual trolling in the 2nd thread, following the first repeated trolling of me in my other thread.

So yes, I was primed to be  less tolerant of you by your similar trolling in the 2nd thread.  Ive offerred to have disscussion with you about other related issues.

Time has two aspects:

1} Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts of units of time, ex 1 minute, hr day etc that, complement the following,
--- conceptual line of demarcation -----

2} existence of occupied space experience --includes instrumental detection--  of flow/motion/spin  of this, that or other occupied space something-ness.

What is space-time was topic of thread, and I gave clearly what I see as the three primary, occupied space examples of these three.

Meta-physical, occupied space Gravity and again, Meta-physical in my defining does invoke a non-occupied space nor a concept

Physical Reality

Meta-physical, occupied space Dark Energy .... and again, Meta-physical in my defining does not invoke a non-occupied space nor a concept.

Im sorry your Meta-space ego is so closed ---you by-far are certainly not the only one--  to anything I my Meta-space ego presents as most refined truth, that you cannot address those specifics as clearly laid out and instead want to lash out at me with use of offensive words. Best wishes in getting your ego intact to have logical, common sense critical thinking disscussions with others in the future.
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@zedvictor4
And so, will the value of Bitcoin relative to the Dollar never increase or decrease?

I dunno the specifics of these economic values well enough to answer that, however, with Murphys Law, anything that can go wrong eventually will and that translates also too, anything that is possible to occur, will eventually occur.
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@zedvictor4
Hi Zed, I know you speak about the evolutionary aspects of humans as we go forward into the future. I never think that evolution would have any greater access to general intelligence aspects of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts, however, if you go to 1:04:00 and shortly thereafter, Joscha gets a question about whats the next best step in creating  a being with access to general intelligence or Artificial GI.

So Joscha's answer is that evolution of humans is probably the best way to get to the next new being having more access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts. 

Also I want to take this space/gap to re-introduce the defintions of two complementary definitions of what exists, as Sadolite and Sidewalker dont seem to fully grasp these two in context of there co-existent relationship to each other, and, Ive expressed this over the last year or more, in a way that is likened to AI >< human.

Two primary kinds of Bit:

1} information as Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts that, ---ergo, not an occupied space---   exists as a complementary to the following,

-------- conceptual line-of-demarcation -----------

2} information as occupied space quantum bits and that is more complex when considered as the 0 1 bits used in computers that become bytes, etc of on - off functions withing a chip of data flow.

3} Ive also for even more years tried to show the differrence in these two ---and Joscha sort of touches on pattern in the vid of this thread topic--- in the following explanation, once again.  None ever touch it because, it is close to absolute truth, as are many of the examples I attempt to express clearly and definitely.

...3a} take any word, and we find it has two primary aspects:

.........3a1} a Meta-space pattern of associated letters, and,

..........3a2} letters that exist as an occupied space medium ergo, as visible bits on a screen, or ink or lead on paper, etc

.....ex with the following set of letters,  metaphysical and  slmaepaicaty,   we find that, even those both sets of letters exist with exactly the same amount quantum bits of occupied space, if sent to someone the 2nd one { the latter }  will have no Meta-space informational meaning to them, because of its Meta-space pattern of letters carries no defining meaning to them.

Of course given the task of decyphering a meaning from the scrambled pattern of letters we can discern the word metaphysical.
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@3RU7AL
interesting proposal

Based on rather simple, sequential, numerical pattern in rather simple 2D lattice pattern. 

Yes it takes some time and effort to read and understand rather simple stuff, because, to approach absolute truth takes more words to clarify the definitions leading to our logical common sense critical thinking pathways of thought.

As you well know, Ive been following these pathways of thought for some years,

starting { zero as initialization point } questioning my mother about the location of her Christian Science Biblical God, wherein she would point to the toward the ceiling/sky,

starting { again a zero point initialization ] with my  readings of Bucky Fullers books,

then starting with my naive exploring independently,

then starting with inside-outing of my regular/symmetrical 2D pattern, into irregular/asymmetrical pattern,
..note:.. that references back to Jim Lehmans creation of the di-pryamidic PODs, that, I initialized { zero point } as truncated di-pyramids ergo octahedrons---,

then starting with connecting the dots { nodal events } with geodesics and invagination blips to inside a tube as a sine-wave pattern ergo observed time/quantization } ergo our physical reality.

.......space( time )( time )space..... is the most simple graphic to symbolize what Ive been explaining for a few years now.  Of course simple does not carry all of the needed lingustic definning need to know the specifiics of that symbolization.  People just prefer to attack me because I present a symbolization, and avoid true consideration of what those simple mean when put into many words and at one simple pattern that I believe is fundamental field of Universe,

or it is when interfering with other Quantum Space-time Tori.
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It From No Bit
It refers to something-ness and no bit refers to nothing-ness. Joscha Bach epitome of logical, common sense critical thinking.

39:16.."  it is still interesting to speculate " about the brain as non-deterministic turing machine.

40:03 .." neurons basically antenna " or act as antenna to detect superpositon states of open collective patterns/states of brain

41:00 he ends brain section with superpostional states that collapse then at 41:28 he makes analogy to Universe doing a similar non-defined superpostional state ---no "it" i.e no something--  that collapses from non-defined state to "it" somthing-ness i.e. defined Big Bang state of existence

42:20.." and that leads to the big question of why is there something instead of nothing"...  I like Joscha's approach as he appears to me to recognize the finite-ness of occupied space Universe and its eternal existence, whether superpostional { multiple-states-of-existence }.

43:14..." this is bullshit" responding to a specific definition of zero { 0 }. Ha love this dude!

43:45.." you have to have a number system "... and that is what Ive been presenting as the primary field of Universe, in the 2D sequential numerical lattice pattern that begins with numerical zero/0 and that zero exists as intilizing of a starting point for this that or the other in our consideration of finite, occupied space Universe,
or any of its constituent parts. I love this dudes logical, common sense critical thinking approach.

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@3RU7AL
3RU, go to 1:00 and attempt to grasp that, what there saying is Gravity is ' emergent ' --as does Eric Verlinde that Ive posted and referenced links to many times--- and she uses H2O > water as analogous to Gravity.

They are trying to have their resultant conclusions in two differrent ways, ergo, their logic, that, is semi-illogical, lacks common sense critical thinking, as presented with their own comments.

So basically this, logic they state in vid, yet dont seem to grasp/jive with what there saying, i.e. if water exists then that means Gravity exists, irrespective of whether it is emergent or not. Understand 3RU?

My dispute with them and Eric Verlinde is that occupied space Gravity and Dark Energy are primary, tho, Ive made clear in post #16 in this thread, or others around here, that, within my speculative 18 nodal event { in 2d lattice }  Quantum Space-time Torus { 3D } exists the 14 nodal events { 2D lattice pattern } graviton-darkEon, that,

has the following:

Five nodal events of non-quantized, occupied space  Gravity , ....1...2p....5p..7p...11p....1p..... as outer surface events

internal, nucleated body of physical reality {  observed time/quantised } set of Five nodal events, 0....3p....6...9...12.... --associated with sine-wave pattern--- and

Inner surface set non-quantized,  occupied space Dark Energy set of Four nodal events .....2p.....4.....8....10.....

So Gravity and physical reality both have five nodal events, and Dark Energy only has four.  We can derive a logical, common sense critical thinking from this 5 >< 5 ---> 4 ratio.  Gravity and physical reality more primary than Dark Energy { cosmological constant- See Einstein's  biggest blunder, not a blunder }

Here is the 2-D lattice { field } of space and time  and the first 13 nodes define the gravtion-darkEon, along with their 91 lines-of-relationship

....1...............5p...........7p..............11p......13p......................17p.......Gr
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0.............................6.............................12.....................................18...Phy R
.............3p...........................9......................................15.....................Phy R
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........2p......4.....................8.....10.........................14.........16...................Dark E

The not shown geodesics --warped Gravitational and Dark Energy--- is as follows:

1 >>> 2p and this is trajectory, within a wholistic pulse of non-isolate-able graviton-darkEon and--- that, has polyhedral { octahedron } aspects of a 3D tube with an internal body { observed time } aka truncated, di-pyramid { octahedron }, i.e. the minimal set to have a 3D tube as,

3 surface nodal events { 0..1..2p } on one end,

5 nodal events internal to the outer surface  tube{ octahedron } ...this is nucleated body of the surface tube...

3 surface nodal events {10....11p....13p } on the other end

So let us again attempt logical, common sense critical thinking to these resultant ratios.  3 outer and 3 inner total 6 compared to the internal { nucleated body } set of 5 nodal events. This resultant of 6:5 ratio suggests to me, that, Gravity and Dark Energy are more primary, however, elsewhere Ive disscussed with there can ever exist a ultra-brief Meta-space time ---ex big bang-- where for the ultra-brief moment { no observed time or motion }, the occupied space physical reality does not exist.

I.e. on the transition of between Gravity > Dark Energy geodesic that, of course has a time, just not a quantize-able observed time, as is the case of quantize-able physical reality.

And I say this again, as I have many in many posts, Gravity and Dark Energy are best catagorised as Meta-physical.  Do you, 3Ru, understand this logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion, as Ive derived from the above 2D lattice pattern?

Non-quantized Gravity and Dark Energy are beyond/Meta phyiscal reality because they exist on the surface of graviton-darkEon and ergo on the surface of the Quantum Space-time Torus.

Sidewalker and most others are so stuck in their pre-conditioned education about space and time, they, cannot free their thought pathways to consider my logical, common sense critical thinking pathways of thought.

Take note of Einsteins quote.... my education has been one of my biggest impediments to my learning '....

My ego tells me, that, based on 2D, lattice pattern presented, my conclusions are logical, common sense critical thinking.  None have ever --if only rarely---  addressed my presentation as such.

Far easier to just make dismmisive comments based on their pre-conditioned education and not address my givens, as presented ergo dismiss ebucs  presentation completely along with ebucs conclusions with out fair judgement, or discourse to address those specifics.

  Certainly we do not live in the not the days of free thought to be considered by many of these around here. Too philosophically logical for them. Logic goes out the window.  Space { as Gravity and Dark Energy }  is occupied  and it gets bent/warped  by occupied space matter { has Gravity and Dark Energy inherent to its existence as Quantum Space-time torus.
Oops more speculative logic, as your given link to others who speculated, as does Eric Verlinde.

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@zedvictor4
AI Meets BlockChain { Bitcoin }  2nd link below

.."-BlackRock's iShares Bitcoin Trust has become the world's largest fund for the world's largest cryptocurrency, racking up nearly $20 billion in total assets since listing in the U.S. in January, Bloomberg News reported on Wednesday.

The exchange-traded fund held $19.68 billion of token on Tuesday, overtaking Grayscale Bitcoin Trust's $19.65 billion, report said, citing data compiled by Bloomberg."...

..." As of May 8, 2024, Bitcoin (BTC) had a market capitalization of $1,226 trillion, making it the largest cryptocurrency. But the biggest Bitcoin holders and how much are they worth is worth looking at.

While cryptocurrency is celebrated for its decentralization, there are still “whales” – individuals or organizations that hold significant amounts of digital currency – in this vast ocean. These major players can have a substantial impact on the market."..

..." Blockchains, meanwhile, are still a bit behind on the speed and usability end of things, but they could be much better for privacy – without a central authority holding the keys to the kingdom. Plus, blockchains don’t have a single point of potential failure like those central servers. And once data goes on the blockchain, it becomes immutable – as in, it can’t be altered in any way.

So that’s what makes this intriguing. The Big Ideas 2024 report from Cathie Wood’s Ark Invest says convergence among disruptive technologies will define this decade – and that the convergence of blockchain and AI will be a part of that story. When I asked ChatGPT for its assessment, it said there’s a “high probability” that AI will run on a combination of central servers and decentralized blockchains in the future. "...
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@RaymondSheen
My prognostications ---posted in thread--- calculate 2015 as end date, and were 8 years beyond that. Issac Newton has had several end dates, one of which as approximately 2065. Here is the thread I created on that, and revised my approach over time from the the first post on the end date for humanity { or however many }.


Origins of Bilateral O|O Humans

..." She managed to do it during the studies of Lingula anatina which is a representative of inarticulate brachiopods. Lingula is one of the oldest brachiopods having survived survived to the present day. It is known from the Early Ordovician what means about 500 million years ago. The fossils of Lingula are found all over the world. Most of the were found in Europe, Southeast Asian and North America.

"Our study shows that there is a group of the Lophophore animals among the Bilateria -- Lophotrochozoa taxon, which includes the largest variety of types of animals, -- Elena Temereva says, -- The lophophore is a special organ that carries tentacles. Phoronids, brachiopods and bryozoans (ectoprocts) have collectively been called lophophorate, because they have the lophophore. However, multiple molecular phylogenetics data shows that there is no united group of the Lophophore animals."

....By virtue of the fact that there are tentacles among the two main taxons of bilaterally symmetrical animals, it is logical to assume that the common ancestor also had them. It means that the common ancestor of chordate animals including people also had tentacles," -- Elena Temereva explains.

Therefore, the common ancestor of bilaterally symmetrical animals had tentacular appendages, which is consistent with the ideas of the Russian zoological school. "...

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@TheUnderdog
D R..." In other words, the GOP ethos is whatever Trump says it is. "....
Aka kiss ass, or brown nosing


S W... " The Democrats looks and says: My glass is half full.
The Republican looks and says:  Somebody drank half my water damn it."....

And some percentage of Trumpet MAGA cultist are bloodthirsty violent, revolutionary/insurrectionist type.  Ive posted data on this in other threads.  They want to break the glass and attack others, unnecessarily. 

..." The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot. It is a republic because the Government derives its power from the people.

The purpose of our Federal Government, as found in the Preamble of the Constitution, is to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,..."
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@Intelligence_06
I have lost count during the last few months but this must have been at least the 600th "trump bad" thread.

He reaps what he sows and your clueless ---or voluntary ignorance---  on this issue. Another MAGA cultist is my best guess. And you may even be part of the bloodthirsty percentage of MAGA/DADA { Dumb and Dumber } Moronic Cult.  I dunno.

Moronic { some percentage }   MAGA cult has percentage of unnecessarily  blood thirsty { violent } undercurrent of revolt/ insurrection against the moral integrity of decent less violent minded people, and,

direct attack on the structural integrity of USA's constitutional Republic that is based on democracy, not  a dictatorship, that, Trumpet nutter invokes more and more as nutters continue to flock his rhetoric.

..." The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot. It is a republic because the Government derives its power from the people."...

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@sadolite
I wasn't talking to you so fuck off, you fucking leave. All my comments are on topic. Its your problem that you don't like or agree with them.
More trolling by you. Once again please take a hike from this thread

You have three or more posts in this thread replying/responding to me, and absolutely none of them address even one of my statements directly as presented.
...Note: Sidewalker doesnt either, however, he is less of a troll than you, even tho his ego allows some falsehoods and avoids some of the truths Ive clearly presented... 

 Now two threads you trolling me and Ive done my best to be nice to you in these regards over and over.

This is two ways your ego the problem/issue in both threads.



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@Sidewalker
Sado is in pretty good company here, his belief has been shared by Plato, Aristotle, Lucretius, Augustine, Leibniz, Mach, Einstein and Sidewalker through the ages.   I'd have to say almost all of them have "logical common sense critical thinking to offer". 

Like you SW, doesnt matter the company if not the whole truth ---ergo you and do not address many of my specifics in regards to time-- and if you both lack some logical common sense critical, thinking that again, addresses my speccifics, as presented.  

Your certainly have not and rarely do.  PLease try again when you can do any of things Ive asked above and others for a few years now.


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@sadolite
Sado please take a hike from this thread, as ive asked nicely twice, as I did five or more times in the other thread. Go troll somewhere else please.
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@sadolite
You have no logical common sense critical thinking to offer and I think your trolling cause my frustration in two threads now.

Get your mental state together of leave me alone, please
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@sadolite
Please take a hike, and start another thread, for the 2nd time of told you this.
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@FLRW
The Universe has not existed forever. It was born. Around 13.82 billion years ago, matter, energy, space – and time – erupted into being in a fireball called the Big Bang. It expanded and, from the cooling debris, there congealed galaxies – islands of stars of which our Milky Way is one among about two trillion.

False FLRW. Occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed. PLease learn the 1st of law of thernomdynamics before your next post.

And you do not answer the question of regarding specifics of ' warped space-time ". 

1} SideW thinks is a warped abstract concept, an not occupied space. He is incorrect, those ego does not allow in some truths,

2} Zed is correct that it is and exotic force and that exotic force is Gravity and Dark Energy.  And the time part is physical reality.  All three of those have there abstract Meta-space complement.   So far none here seem to grasp what the word complement means in regard to Space and Meta-space complement to Space.

3} SAd, still looking for a six year to explain . ' warped space-time ' to him.

None here have offerre my logical common sense critical thinking to address my question. 3RU at least gave a correct aside about Gravitational lensing aka ' warped space-time '.

Abstract, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego are not occupied space nor truly non-occupied space.  A six year old might get it as they may have less pre-conceived conditioning in those regards and be open to cosmic truth in those regards.

...space(> * <)(> * <)space.... in place of ignorance, ego often rasise its head, as it thinks it must have an oppinion.  That is good, insofar as, it may spur others to re-think.  Many here do need to do some rethinking in a logical, common sense critical thinking pathway of approach to a few cosmic ideas Ive put forward in this thread and others
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@sadolite
Space: the unoccupied areas of the universe containing no solid matter.
Like the others a false comment. I think your clueles about subject of  ' warped space-time '.

Filled with occupied space bosonic forces and some tau-neutrinos { matter }.

 
Time : The distance between to occupied areas of space in the universe. Time and distance are different but are related it takes time to travel a distance.

That Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts of mathematical time. Old news 

Observed time is our quantized physical reality.  Simple


There may exist many six year olds with less ego than most adults who understand Universe better than you Sad.  I dunno.
Thats irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Your batting zero. 3 strikes and your out.

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@sadolite
Five of the same posts by you Sad and I still have no idea what it is your going on about in the robot does back flip thread. Take it to another thread and we can discuss what your problem is specifically
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@Intelligence_06
I am no expert, but I think academic journals from, idk, google scholars, is more credible evidence than youtube videos and you should switch to those and link them here if you want to expand your thoughts.
1} Albert  E makes a comment--see in my profile comments--- about his education being the biggest impediment to his learning ---learning from the experts is insuiated i believe--

2} Again, no one has offer any logical common sense critical thinking that invalidates my givens as presented  in post #1.

3} sidewalkers comments infer that Gravity, space-time and any warping/bending/twisting thereof if just abstract concepts of mathematical thoughts, not occupied space,

4} Mass-attraction occurs and if it is not occupied space bosonic force of Gravity, then please explain better than Harry Cliff has done, and I trust his knowledge base as well or better than Sidewalkers, on the issues Harry disscussess,

5} Occupied space , as in'  space-time ' = non-quantized, occupied space Gravity (  )  --complemented by Meta-space maths { complex maths included } ergo geometric locations aka triangulations i.e. to get a fix or caculate a trajectory etc on a location and target ---

...5a} Occupied space time, as in time in ' space-time ' = our observed { quantized } physical reality --complemented by abstract Meta-space time and again used to get exact location in geometric space---,

...5b} Occupied space, as in ' space-time ' =   non-quantized, occupied space Dark Energy )( --complemented by Meta-space maths again, to this one is mostly about acceleration of the expansion or, seeming expansion of occupied space Universe.

I'm no expert either,  however based on at least 100 years of knoeledge regarding Gravity aka mass-attraction we have heard thousands of time from reputable scientist that the sun and galaxies etc warp a ' something ' labeled ' space-time ', ergo photons follow this warped space-time curvature.

So continue to ask you and others what exactly/specifically is this ' space-time ', is that, can be warped/twisted/bent etc?
 
I believe it is kind of incorrect ---if not nutty--- to say, that, space-time is just and abstract,Meta-space concept of mind/intellect, and not occupied space something, that is bent/curved/warped and the occupied space photons around galaxies and suns etc are not following abstract Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts, rather and occupied space called Gravity, if not in some specical-case  set of circumstances,

regarding the expansion of Universe, then we incur occupied space Dark Energy.  Or do you Intelligence thing Dark Energy is also not an occupied space, and rather just an abstract, Meta-space mind/intellect/concept?  Well do you Intelligence?

I think Dark Energy is occupied space, and may possibly be causing us in --physical reality---  to think the Universe is seemingly expanding., and Ive posted before my poor askew based diagram of how and why that scenario may be incurring.

PLease share when you have logical common sense critical thinking that adds to, or detracts from my scenarios as presented.
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@Sidewalker
Time and space are measurements, they measure things but are not themselves things, space measures the distance between things, timemeasures change. They are useful mental tools, but they are abstract representations of reality, not statements about reality itself.

Semi-false.

1} Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts ---are not and occupied space or non-occupied space---  of space, concepts of time, God, Toyotas, Space, Footballs, Numbers, Pi, Equaation etc ex math ergo geometrical triangulation to get a fix on something is done via occupied space physical somethings { observed time },
..note: Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts has no spin, no charge, no mass, no weight, taste, color, axis, precession, etc as in the case of occupied space phenomena

2} ex occupied space --Fermionic matter and bosonic forces--  ex EMRadiation, { radio, radar, micro-waves, } etc is a bosonic force mediated between electrons,  some of which are used { ex GPS satelites } to triangulate also using visble light ergo humans get a fix of three smoke signals, or shadow of the tetrahedron on Mars, aids in determining its height{ ome mile high } and using bilateral eyes to also key manifest a 3D view. Two eyes and distant object is a triangulation experience.

...2a} occupied space three primaries ---or so I speculate, based on knowledge base---, and Ive been very clear, that, teh mass-attractive, Gravity force ergo ultra-micro, non-quantixed, bosonic force,  medias between all matter of Universe and that is what Gravitional lensing is about.  Sidewalker is in error in various places.

Dark Energy is speculate is also occupied space --diametric opposite of Gravity--- that, is a primary Space like Gravity.

Occupied space does not exist without Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts  ergo patterns, i.e the two are complementary to each other, eternally to each other and both are eternally existent.

Any other belief in those regards is ignorance of logical, common sense critical thinking conclusions.

None have yet, or ever will offer any logical common sense critical thinking any of the my comments as presented in this thread. Unless my quick typing mis-spoke.  It takes many words to some times refine the clear definning of what is meant, and what is closet to absolute truth.

Space is  Gravity, Dark Energy and the occupied space observed/quantized time is physical reality ergo matter warps Gravitation Space and Dark Energy Space


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@zedvictor4
Could be a very elastic super-fabric not yet discovered,

Could be though no evidence of such yet. Correct?

Mass attractive/contractive Gravity is part of the answer for Gravitational lensing, and the ' warping of the Fabric of Space-time '.

However, Dark Energy as the diametric other side of the graviton ergo graviton-darkEon has to be considered. Yes? See Roy Kerr's rotational black holes define a torus of any particles surrounding the rotating black holes.  All black holes are  rotating.

Here is the 2-D lattice { field } of space and time  and the first 13 nodes define the gravtion-darkEon, along with their 91 lines-of-relationship

....1...............5p...........7p..............11p......13p......................17p.......Gr
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0.............................6.............................12.....................................18...Phy R
.............3p...........................9......................................15.....................Phy R
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........2p......4.....................8.....10.........................14.........16...................Dark E

This above each line curves around  so as we have four concentric circles (   (   (  O  )  )    ) and via a birds eye view or bisection of this minimal Quantum Torus of Universe ...space(> * <)(> * <)space.....with the diametic invaginations from outer G and inner DE, to create the Phy. Reality ^v^v^v sine-wave association.

No tricks { slight of hand } here. No complex maths. 

Geodesic curvatures  between outer and inner nodes, ---not shown-- complete this minimal Quantum Torus as a 3-D Matrix with the two inside lines of our quantized physical reality being our observed{ quantised } time.

18 nodal events = 153 lines-of-relationship and the 91 lines-of-realtionship = minimal quantum pulse { not a torus } of Universe the graviton-darkEon.

Many years ago, someone asked me, ' what is the significance of the prime-p numbers?  I dunno that there is a significance, however, what I can see is that each line ergo circle, has a prime number, except the top peak of the internal sine-wave 0.....6....12.....18 and I mention always there exist 1 combinations quark and anti-quark of Universe.

0...4....12.....18 also is minimal set for being of a systemic integrity nature

0....1...2P is minimal triangulated set of structural integrity, and here we have one prime number    and again, no top peak of sine-wave association is involved.

This says to me, that, a lack of prime number  top peak of the internal sine-wave may be of significance. I dunno

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@3RU7AL
please explain gravitational lensing

Same as the sun/matter warping of fabric of space-time in the vid by Harry Cliff., however, the fabric space-time is not exactly defined.


....space(> time<)(> time< )space....

....space(^v^v^)(^v^v^)space.....

...Gravity(> * <)<-- Dark Energy -->(> * <)<Gravity

Gravity  -----><----- Gravity aka mass-attractive/contractive

Dark Energy <----->Dark Energy aka repulsive/expansion { cosmological constant Einstein }

EMRadidation ^v^v^v^v^vEMRadiation expansive with attractive aspects of di-polar charge and dipolar magnetics




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@sadolite
Take a hike from this thread Sad.
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@Sidewalker
A lot of people try to construe physical theories literally, and consequently claim spacetime is an independently existing structure that bears its own properties (commonly called a fabric).
A fabric, wood, steel are occupied space and can be warped/twisted/etc.

The vid in #1 by Harry Cliff is very clear, matter { sun } warps space-time. We've seen this kind of statement for 100 years now. 

I'm fairly clear in #1 and others refuse to address my comments directly as to the specifics of what the space { occupied space } and time [ physical reality } are.
SW, PLease read again and address specifics to validate or invalidate with logical, common sense critical thinking, so I dont have to copy and past significant parts of #1 over and over and over again.

1} Outer, Meta-physical,  Gravity { non-quantized } occupied space and geometrically represented by positive curvature (  )

2} Physical reality { observed/quantised time } occupied space and symbolized by sine-wave /\/\/ or as ^v^v^

3} Inner, Meta-physical Dark Energy { non-quantized } occupied space and geometrically represented by negative curvature )(

Again three three primary kinds of occupied space --and putting aside the truly non-occupied outside of Finite occupied space Universe---  none have yet to ever offer logical, common sense critical thinking that validates or invalidates this concept.


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@zedvictor4
Zed, see post 1.  How does your words differrent the scenario I put forth defining space and time, or a space-time?

Im looking for specifics regarding what fabric of space-time is.

Generally fabric = an occupied space medium aka cloth, silk, nylon, etc.
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@sadolite
"Sad... Basically 2 wrongs "...

Sad, Please move on. Thx for effort. No banana earned. 

You seem confused and dont understand what please move on means.  

.. " One usually distinguishes between humanoids, which are robots with human form (Brooks et al., 1998; Hirai et al., 1998; Metta et al., 2008), but which still look like machines, and androids (Ishiguro, 2016), which are robots that are made to resemble a human as much as possible. "...

First time I recall hearing the term Android was here below on first season of Star Trek " what are little girls made of" Apple tv or Prime video.

.." Ruk was an android built on Exo III half a million years before the 23rd century by the Old Ones.

Ruk was tall, broad and immensely strong, capable of lifting a Human male easily with one hand. Despite his size, he could move silently and gracefully, making him an extremely dangerous physical opponent. He could duplicate voices effortlessly – his actual voice was very low-pitched and gravelly.

...He was discovered in the underground ruins of that planet in 2261, by Dr. Roger Korby, where he was still tending the machinery the Old Ones had left behind. Even he did not remember how many centuries he had been doing this work. Ruk helped Korby learn how to use the ancient machinery, including the android duplicator. With Ruk's help, Korby built other androids, including Brown and Andrea. "..

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@sadolite
Sad, Please move on. Thx for effort. No banana earned. 

You and Orange Grey Parrot are in incorrect thread and that may explain your confused state of mind. I dunno

Watch first back flipping robot.

.. " One usually distinguishes between humanoids, which are robots with human form (Brooks et al., 1998; Hirai et al., 1998; Metta et al., 2008), but which still look like machines, and androids (Ishiguro, 2016), which are robots that are made to resemble a human as much as possible. "...

.." 2.4 The Uncanny Valley

....None of today’s androids look really human-like up-close. Instead of looking human in a sympathetic way, they cause discomfort in many people (MacDorman and Entezari, 2015). You feel the same reaction as if you met a zombie or mummy. Something dead that should be immobile has come to life. The jerky and unnatural movements do not make things better.

...This is an example of a phenomenon first described by the Japanese robot scientist Masahiro Mori in the seventies (Mori, 2012). He noted that the more human a robot is, the nicer it feels, but this connection is broken when you get very close to a human appearance. Then feelings of discomfort arise instead. The phenomenon is called the uncanny valley. Instead of looking more vivid, the result is rather the opposite. You pay extra attention to what is not human in the robot. "..
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First time I recall hearing the term Android was here below on first season of Star Trek " what are little girls made of" Apple tv or Prime video.

.." Ruk was an android built on Exo III half a million years before the 23rd century by the Old Ones.

Ruk was tall, broad and immensely strong, capable of lifting a Human male easily with one hand. Despite his size, he could move silently and gracefully, making him an extremely dangerous physical opponent. He could duplicate voices effortlessly – his actual voice was very low-pitched and gravelly.

...He was discovered in the underground ruins of that planet in 2261, by Dr. Roger Korby, where he was still tending the machinery the Old Ones had left behind. Even he did not remember how many centuries he had been doing this work. Ruk helped Korby learn how to use the ancient machinery, including the android duplicator. With Ruk's help, Korby built other androids, including Brown and Andrea. "..

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@3RU7AL
3RU, I saw all of that. No words of fabric of spacetime.  16 vortices is not same as fabric of space-time.
I dont think you have anything significant in regards to what I askiing you. PLeaes share if you find anything in that vid or elsewhere, as to my query presented to you as related to post #1

Thx fro your efforts. No banana for you yet.

Note: and in the last vid you sent, again it shows two tori, however,  at most the vid jjust says there are these two electro-magnetic fields and north and south. Yeah so what?   Earth has only one mangetic field.  Any info regard the tori specifically is not much and/or insignifcant with more explanation.  I forget from 1st vid that had this stuff also. 
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@3RU7AL
Halfway through --some skimming-- and only words stand out to me is his ' ether ' and ' wave conujnucitons '. 

So yes, I have not watched most of it to find the words space-time and even more so, fabric of space-time as I addressed in first post referencing Harry  Cliffs use of it.

If you read or heard what the fabric of space-time is exactly/specifically, in you linked vid 3RU, please share.


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I watched most of this one also.  I need to  put into cagatories to simplify for myself and other these cosmic and particle anamolies. Go to time stamp  44: to 44:50 or so, to see the huge cosmological anomaly in the above with Harry Cliff regarding how fast galaxies are moving away from each other, and this also determines size of known Universe

1} Hubble { visible radiation } telescope  final analysis is 73.8 

..anomaly created Hubble tension between these two measurements, that both checked and rechecked...

2} Planck { infra-red radiation }  telescope final analysis is 67.3

Tension differrence between the two is value 6.5 in the equations for kilometers^-1 and mega-parsecs ^-1

To understand better others have to of course go back further and further forward. A little more forward 49:30  is worth it for sure to grasp these checked and rechecked comparsions of Hubble and Planck telescope values

So this person has a book of Five major anomalies in science today.  The first part of vid is in regards to particle anomaly --deals with  17 quantum fields of standard model--, and potential for some unknown other quantum field causing the particle anomaly{s}.

The second part is this one cosmological anomaly.  Ive heard and read about them before, so this just is better understanding thanks to Harry Cliffs knowledge and ability to explain. Of course if you watch the whole thing you get the most out of it.  I watched it all.

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@3RU7AL
3RU, if you know, please give Time stamp for where --if any--  he addresses the issue of the thread topic " What exactly is Space-time is Exactly"?

Im very clear, that first and foremost 'space-time' has to be an occupied space medium if its going to be bent/warped etc as the is presented by the person in the utube I posted.   No one addresses the issues of ' the fabric of space-time ', as I have done specifically/exactly.
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Here is the issue with a something called a ' Space ' or  ' Space-time ', that can be bent/warped., --as stated in following video---  that, Ive been addressing for years with logical, common sense critical thinking.

Only and **occupied space** medium aka material/substance/physical reality etc,  can be bent/warped. Ex 2.4 piece of untreated lumber on ground overnight will bent/twist/warp due ground moisture.

So when I hear this person in following vid --in first segment about planet Mercury's strange anomaly solved by Einstien and caused Einstein to have heart palpitations--- is that space-time should be seen as ive presented many times as:

Outer, Meta-physical,  Gravity { non-quantized } occupied space and geometrically represented by positive curvature (  )

Physical reality { observed/quantised time } occupied space and symbolized by sine-wave /\/\/ or as ^v^v^

Inner, Meta-physical Dark Energy { non-quantized } occupied space and geometrically represented by negative curvature )(

None have yet to ever offer logical, common sense critical thinking that validates or invalidates this concept.

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@IlDiavolo
Go to this site and seen USA map based on Pornhub's searchs of it site.

..." The map, created by data from Pornhub, reveals that in the majority of states, people are searching for lesbian porn the most. Oh sure, in a few quirky states, cartoons are the most popular. Others have ethnic preferences or mother figures they’d like to, uh, well you know. Perhaps the cold weather in Wyoming, Maine, and Minnesota makes people pine for their stepsisters. "...

Men are more visually cued in for arousal. 

The old saying goes, women need  a reason, men just need a place.

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@Amber
Yeah, been there done that one a few times.  Later we make amends.

The article also makes clear no one likes being told to relax when their angered, pissed, upset etc. However, it is good to let the other know, volume of voice is rising more than need be for normal conversation.  Thx for this I sent quote and link to my wife.
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@sadolite
You and Orange Grey Parrot are in incorrect thread and that may explain your confused state of mind. I dunno

Watch first back flipping robot.

.. " One usually distinguishes between humanoids, which are robots with human form (Brooks et al., 1998; Hirai et al., 1998; Metta et al., 2008), but which still look like machines, and androids (Ishiguro, 2016), which are robots that are made to resemble a human as much as possible. "...

.." 2.4 The Uncanny Valley

....None of today’s androids look really human-like up-close. Instead of looking human in a sympathetic way, they cause discomfort in many people (MacDorman and Entezari, 2015). You feel the same reaction as if you met a zombie or mummy. Something dead that should be immobile has come to life. The jerky and unnatural movements do not make things better.

...This is an example of a phenomenon first described by the Japanese robot scientist Masahiro Mori in the seventies (Mori, 2012). He noted that the more human a robot is, the nicer it feels, but this connection is broken when you get very close to a human appearance. Then feelings of discomfort arise instead. The phenomenon is called the uncanny valley. Instead of looking more vivid, the result is rather the opposite. You pay extra attention to what is not human in the robot. "..
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First time I recall hearing the term Android was here below on first season of Star Trek " what are little girls made of" Apple tv or Prime video.

.." Ruk was an android built on Exo III half a million years before the 23rd century by the Old Ones.

Ruk was tall, broad and immensely strong, capable of lifting a Human male easily with one hand. Despite his size, he could move silently and gracefully, making him an extremely dangerous physical opponent. He could duplicate voices effortlessly – his actual voice was very low-pitched and gravelly.

...He was discovered in the underground ruins of that planet in 2261, by Dr. Roger Korby, where he was still tending the machinery the Old Ones had left behind. Even he did not remember how many centuries he had been doing this work. Ruk helped Korby learn how to use the ancient machinery, including the android duplicator. With Ruk's help, Korby built other androids, including Brown and Andrea. "..
https://moviemorgue.fandom.com/wiki/Ruk


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@Greyparrot
You mean DO something to help him destroy the corrupt joke of a country...
Al countries have some degree of corruption. Welcome to planet Earth OGP.

that exists today with no borders,
False again

unchecked corruption,

False again, degrees of corruption those who attempt to control it.
...

weaponized justice,
..

And happens in every country and party, tho you are prone to falsehoods in this area.  Your MAGA / KADA Trumpet mental disorders  --as laid in the other thread--, is keeping you in box of confusing falsehoods
..

....
class and racial warfare, a war against basic religious moral principles and the nuclear family, the devaluation of every working man's savings through persistent inflation, and the instigator of countless imperialistic wars across the globe creating new enemies exponentially?
...

More ranting that are combination of falsehoods and truths that have led your current MAGA / KADA Trumpism disorder. 
..

Say no more!
For you to say no more, or less, may allow you more time to consider why you fallen of the edge into MAGA / KADA Trumpism disorder. I dunno.
Try changing your perspective for a bit OGP.  You may find yourself in a better place.

Watch first back flipping robot.

Also you may like the utube that follows it where Elon Musks makes clear AI drones tech is here already here.

The point being, at 1:45 time stamp, assassin drones can exist now, --and probably do--, or the real worry is that a GAI, becomes self-aware and get access to the nuclear weapons { bombs } facilities.

AI > GAI > Self-aware society of GAI Robots formed of plastic and steel. time 6:00 time stamp { terminator is here ? }

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@Greyparrot
Your confused OGP. Trumpet is in charge of MAGA /  KADA, to whatever degree he can muster his former seat of governmental seat of authority, and, to which, Trumpets Chief of Staff stated,  or so I recently saw posted here below.  Again best wishes with seeking mental health recovery regarding your Trumpet disorders.

 FLRW... Everyone should remember what retired Gen. John Kelly, one of Trump’s former chiefs of staff, said of him: “The depth of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. … He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.”,

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@Greyparrot
OGP, you have not yet cured your Trumpet disorder, nor has most of the past MAGA / KADA cult followers.

I wish you the best with your attempt to cure these mental disorders.  Every MAGA / KADA person who does so, may encourage others --like yourself--- to cure the Trumpet mental disorders.

Those prone to MAGA violence, falsehoods, election fraud will hopefully remain less and less significant in future. Only time will tell.

I recently posted survey results in a thread around here of MAGA being prone to violence.  

I again, recall passing a man with a T-shirt on with graphic of this tree like pattern, and all the branches were red and I forget maybe dripping blood, and then there was some comment of rebellion ore whatever.  It is scary to think how little logical, common sense critical thinking is given much consideration by these types of externally expressed anger, spurred on by Trumpet and some MAGA / KADA { Keep America Dumb Again }.


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@FLRW
Everyone should remember what retired Gen. John Kelly, one of Trump’s former chiefs of staff, said of him: “The depth of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. … He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.”
Thank you FLRW.  I placed in bold Kelly's comment.

Magic Moron on the wall, whose the greatest Moron of them all? NOt John Kelly

1} Rudy Guliano,
Note: this week Rudy G. was served a warrant to appear in court AZ courts, regarding his fraud conspiracy tactics with others at state level in AZ.

..." RUDY GIULIANI
...Racketeering and conspiracy are among the charges the former New York mayor and Trump-aligned attorney faces in Georgia. In Arizona, the charges against him have not yet been made public.
..In Michigan, a state investigator has testified that Giuliani is among several high-profile unindicted co-conspirators in a case against Republicans who signed elector certificates falsely saying Trump had won the state.
....He’s also an unindicted co-conspirator in the federal indictment in Washington, which cites comments he made at the “Stop the Steal” rally prior to the Capitol riot.
...His spokesman, Ted Goodman, said in a statement Thursday that the “continued weaponization of our justice system should concern every American as it does permanent, irrevocable harm to the country.”................


..." CHRISTINA BOBB....Bobb is a lawyer and conservative media personality charged in Arizona with conspiracy, fraud and forgery. She worked closely with Giuliani as he tried to persuade Arizona lawmakers to block the certification of the election results. She later raised money for a discredited audit of the election results in Maricopa County and covered the spectacle for One America News Network."

The only weaponisation is that of the falsehood regarding the 2020 election by MAGA aka KADA Keep America Dumb Again

4} Mark Meadows,

5} all of those charged and charged with election fraud,

6} Trumpet for sleeping in court?

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