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@TWS1405_2
Very intriguing.
I just finnished listening to rest of that Nobles vid.
He talks of process, control and purpose is much like Arthur Youngs Geometry of Meaning and The Reflexive Universe. LINK His thoughts of control etc came with the building of the Bell helicoptor and how to control this thing.
..." Process and Purposiveness: We thus by the single concept of purposiveness, account for a number of apparently different aspects: that process has direction, that it builds on itself, that it must use means, that means must be determinate.".....
Scroll two thirds of the page to see his grahic regarding control:
.."Formal Expression for Control: Position and its Three Derivatives"....
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@zedvictor4
@TWS1405_2
Newer research may have cast doubt on older theory. That's the way it goes, isn't it
Absolutely Zed. Newer technology can make finer measurements of occupied space reality.
That of course does inviolate eternal cosmic principles or physical laws.
Naught is lost nor created only transformed, eternally.
Todays 2ndary symbolism for Universe is this @, whereas tommorrow, it could be this (X), or (((((()))))), or (U), or whatever.
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.." The holographic principle thus implies that the subdivisions must stop at some level"...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle
Fuller was clear to leave open the idea of a Universe that is eternally subdividing itself micro-infinitely.
I never thought so and surprised i had not taken closer note of this concept above sooner, in relation to Fullers thoughts.
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@FLRW
The Green New Deal will feed the wealthy and their pets
..." Soylent Green is a 1973 American ecological dystopian thriller film directed by Richard Fleischer, and starring Charlton Heston, Leigh Taylor-Young, and Edward G. Robinson in his final film role. It is loosely based on the 1966 science-fiction novel Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison, with a plot that combines elements of science fiction and a police procedural.
...By 2022,[3] the cumulative effects of overpopulation and pollution have caused severe worldwide shortages of food, water, and housing. New York City has a population of 40 million, and only the elite can afford spacious apartments, clean water, and natural food."...
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I learned new word today ' ergotropy' tho grasping it clearly will prove diffcult and not really for us amateurs :--O--:
..." New tool to guide efficient energy extraction from quantum sources"..
...." The quantum ergotropy quantifies the maximal amount of work that can beextracted from a quantum state without changing its entropy.
..Given that theergotropy can be expressed as the difference of quantum and classical relativeentropies of the quantum state with respect to the thermal state, we define theclassical ergotropy, which quantifies how much work can be extracted fromdistributions that are inhomogeneous on the energy surfaces.
...A unified approachto treat both quantum as well as classical scenarios is provided by geometricquantum mechanics, for which we define the geometric relative entropy. Theanalysis is concluded with an application of the conceptual insight toconditional thermal states, and the correspondingly tightened maximum worktheorem."....
.."We prove that the maximum gain in the extracted work is related to the existence of quantum correlations between the two parts, quantified by either quantum discord or, for pure states, entanglement."...
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@FLRW
Not nuclear, nor fusion is going to save humanity from itself. Humanity has to stop proliferating it species growth, and cut way back on its energy use for all kinds of crap it doesnt need goes to landfills oceans etc to kill of wildlife and humans.
More nukes are going to get built to try and save the day. more nukes more nuclear proliferatiion. More nuclear waste sitting around next to nuclear power plants.
Regulating human population is the best chance for humanity to live long and prosper well on Earth. Were not going to another planet to save ourselves either.
Maybe folks we will mine other planets etc. Humans will perish long before that every happens. We have to love the planet we have and educate on ourselves on how to be smart, not how to make money.
All-for-one and one-for-all is the spiritual path that all would feel the most happiness from going forward. The feeling that were all in this together.
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@FLRW
..."Challenges still remain
The two announcements came as the US Government Accountability Office (GAO) released areport concluding fusion technology faces many challenges before it can produce commercial electricity.
......"Several challenges must be overcome to achieve commercial fusion, and stakeholders' projections of this timeline range from 10 years to several decades," GAO said. "One key scientific challenge is in the physics of plasmas, the state of matter needed for fusion."
...Researchers have made advancements in understanding the behaviour of burning plasmas but lack sufficient experimental data to validate their simulations, the report says. One key engineering challenge is the development of materials that can withstand fusion conditions for decades, such as extreme heat and neutron damage, and no facility exists where materials can be fully tested. "More generally, the task of extracting energy from fusion to provide an economical source of electric power presents several complex systems engineering problems that have yet to be solved."...
Humanity meanwhile we choose nuclear. Desipite its seemingly low record of actual deaths or genetic cancers, the issues with it still remain of concern. How great of concern? I just watched Netflix Fushima based true events bio-doc of the event as it occurred from ground level and japans ability to respond or lack thereof in timely manner.
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Geometry is the science of pattern...bucky fuller
All that exists is moderation/modification of angle and frequency....B Fuller
What we have is, interfering and non-interfering patterns, operating in pure principle....B Fuller
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Why Dawkins is Wrong. If you can watch first few minutes, it definetly engage you
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@zedvictor4
GOD is a metaphor. And so is MOTHER NATURE.
Oh I didnt see the word "metaphor" in your post #8. Good call Zed
Humans attempt to apply human-likeness to a Universe { @ } ergo *@* i.e. bilateral looking for starters and a sense of consciousness ( * * ), as in created in our imagae.
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.........space.......( time ).........space...........
.....space..........( * i * ).........space.......
....space........( /\/\/\/\/ )............space.....
.....space.......( ^v^v^v )..........space.......
.....space-----Gravity >>>>( * )<<<< Dark Energy >>>>>>( * )<<<< Gravity...........space......
........space........precessed entanglment >( * )(----)(----)(-----)(--*--) < precessed enanglement......space.....
..."There seems to be something of a consensus that a flat universe is an infinite universe, despite the Big Bang which is said to have started with a point singularity. Now, I’m no fan of point-singularities because I have some understanding of both black holes and electrons. But I will not swallow the opposite, wherein the universe was infinite when the Big Bang banged, and is even more infinite now."...
..."But you can also read what Guillaume d’Auvergne said in 1231: “The world has no outside, no beyond, since it contains and embraces everything”. That strikes a chord when you combine it with what Einstein said. Einstein said space wasn’t nothing, and his stress-energy tensor likened it to some kind of gin-clear ghostly elastic. Waves run through it. So our universe could be something like a droplet of water with ripples running through it. When those ripples reach the edge of the droplet, they undergo total internal reflection. Note however that there is no outside to this droplet. Also note that the universe is expanding. So whilst a radial light beam is akin to the vertical light beam in a gravitational field, the non-radial light beams aren’t. Instead like the horizontal light beam in a gravitational field, they curve:"...
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@zedvictor4
GOD is that which might give purpose to everything.
Meta-space fantasy land Zed, Typical of fundamentalist religious types. Lacks logical, common sense critical thinking. Old news youve yet accept.
Nature is everything that might occur within a universe.....Or without.
Universe = nature. Why you would think anything else lacks any shred of logical, common sense critical thinking. Old news that you cannot get your mind to grasp.
Mother Nature is seemingly an appropriate phrase.
It is a Meta-space mind play twists the typical religous fundamentalist on its head so as to make attempt at some logic, even tho we know there is no God outside of Universe i.e. at best God = Universe = Nature and humans just add in the mother just as the add in male partriarchy Bible.
Please address specific comments by me when you have the courage to do so and add to or invalidate. You never do either.
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Can we inside out a number? I dont think so as a number alone is not a area nor a voume, however, we can use negative numbers, and that may closelr resemble mirroring a number. Maybe not.
But we can inside out a semi-2D pattern of numbers ex. I take the previous symmetrical pattern I posted in #46, --bottom of this page--- and inside-out the top and bottom line, moved to the inside to create an asymmetrical pattern:
…1………………5p……7p……………11p……13p..inside now out at top
0………………………6………………………12…….top outer now inside
……………3p……………………9…………………...bottom outer now inside
………2p……4………………8……10………………..inside now out at bottom
0………………………6………………………12…….top outer now inside
……………3p……………………9…………………...bottom outer now inside
………2p……4………………8……10………………..inside now out at bottom
Initial symmetrical pattern below as outside-out
...0.................................6................................12.................etc
.........1....................5p.......7p...................11p.......13p.........etc
...............2p........4....................8........10...............................etc
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@zedvictor4
Nonetheless, I like the idea of immeasurably unlimited infinite space containing trillions of comparatively miniscule universes
Aka bubble universe or as multi-verse scenarios and a million is definitive value for finite.
They cannot exist in isolation from each other i.e. they are minimally all connected to each other ---related aka relative to each other--- via Gravity [ mass-attraction } and my exploration say also via Dark Energy--- There is one or two videos by theoretical physcists Ive posted of Eric Verlinde stating similar concepts of Gravity and Dark Energy being likened to two sides of the same coin i.e. intimately related to each other.
Since all of these local universes are connected/related I have to once again repeat, that, any finite value of local universes sum-total as the one Universe { @ }. This old news and logical common sense critical thinking and even more so when considered with context of the seeming Big Bang phenomena.
And yes, I repeat again, eternally existent, finite, occupied space, regenerative/cyclic and transformative Universe { @ }, is embraced by the macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space. This scenario is same one Ive been a proponent of for over 30 years now.
.......................space..........................@................................space.....................................
Here is next view with the sum-total zoomed in on, to satisfy any scenarios of many connected local universes that sum-total as Universe { capital U }
...space....................(o)(O)(o)(--)(*)(O)(%)(C)(B)(K)...........space..............
Of course that appears as linear cause this is keyboard I'm using to create simplistic scenario.
( ) = Spirit-3, Gravity ---positive geodesic of occupied space---,
)( = Spirit-4 Dark Energy ---negative geodesic of occupied space---,
These two each invaginate to create observed { quantised } time aka physical reality { energy } as Quantum Space-tiem Tori, that overlap and interact ergo related/connected to create the sum-total Universe { @ }. Old news.
Reality primary numerical association with numbers 0..3p...6{ see electrons and neutrinos }..9...12...15...18 { see 18 combination of quarks and 18 combination of anti-quarks }....21....24 { see Vector Equilbrium{ VE } 24 radii and 24 chords as equanimity of system and structure i.e. 8 surface structural triangles, and,
6 systemically transformable, surface squares, balanced and defined by 4 bisecting, equaltorial hexagons, sharing a common center/nuclear location.
See B in this link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5511.html
Commonality of VE and Quantum Space-time Torus and their nucleated hexagons:
1} graviton/darkEon 0 - 13p has nuclear ( 0...3p....6...9 ) hexagons and 91 lines-of-realtionship via 14^2, minus 14 / 2 = 91
2) initiating minimal Quantum Space-time Torus is a 18 nodal events, ergo, 6 nucleated hexagons, and that is two more than the VE. 18/0 share same location when each line is curved around to meet itself in defining the four abstract planes of the torus, ergo, 18^2, minus 18/2 = 153 lines-of-relationship. See final note on 153 bottom of page.
..1...........5p...7p.........11p....13p.............17p.......GravityOuter {><)inward
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0..................6....................12.........................18...Reality Quanta-time
..........3p................9.........................15..................RealityQuantaTime
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......2p....4............8..10.................14....16.............DEnergy Inner <)(> outward
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0..................6....................12.........................18...Reality Quanta-time
..........3p................9.........................15..................RealityQuantaTime
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......2p....4............8..10.................14....16.............DEnergy Inner <)(> outward
This 153 number did not set off in alerts of association in myknowledge base at first, however, Ive always believed the finite set of chemicalelements in Universe is 2 * the 92 regenerative elements, that is184. So just now { fww months ago }, for first time, I subtracted 153 from 184 andgot the prime number 31p. That is tantalizing since thereexists two { left and right } skewed versions of the 5-foldicosahedrons, 31 great circles and some animals ex humans, have 31 bilateral setof spinal nerves,
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@zedvictor4
So relative to macro infinite unoccupied space, how tiny is this universe.Meta-space mind-games to save face/ego Zed.
Finite relative to macro-infinite is not tiny, small large etc. Your question is illogical.
Macro-infinite is not finite ergo has not relative size value.
Your jumping all around the logical common sense scenarios Ive laid out clearly with texticons to anything you can to save face/ego. Anything but place you ego to the side and let in logic, common sense critical thinking based on human observational truths.
If you like Meta-space fantasy mind-games so much you should spend more time in the fundamentalist religion thread. Plenty of illogial lack of common sense and critical thinking going on there.
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@zedvictor4
So this Universe might actually be very tiny.
Relative to an atom, human planet Universe is not tiny. your still playing Meta-space Ego based mind-games to try and avoid logical common sense ciritical thinking and save ego based face. Your like the addicted drunkard or evanglistic fundmentalist, Closed mind-set to truth, logic etc
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@zedvictor4
A theoretical multiverse scenario arises directly as a consequence of Ebucs infinite unoccupied space theory.
Zed your still lack any shred of any logical common sense critical thinking as you keep appear to repeated espousing an occupied space something < from truly a macro-infinite non-occupied space nothing.
Finite = systemic and structural integrity --wholeness--- humans only observe finite, discrete wholes of occupied space---
Infinite = lack of integrity --ergo lack of wholeness---
Zed, you live in illogical mind set of Meta-space infinite potential of this or that, and non-definitive God principle etc with not shred of evidence for any such Meta-space concepts of in fantasy land of biological polka-dot unicorns popped out of tailpipe of Toyota 4runners, that, run on plutoninium and horse hair is Meta-space Imagination with no systemic integrity nor structural integrity.
Ergo, I have to repeatedly bring you out of your Meta-space infinite potential God principle mind set with one rather simple phrase...there can only exist a finite set of five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra, not an infinite set and certainly non infinite potential of more than those five.
3-fold tetrahedron \Y/ = 4 surface quadrilateral stable triangles
4-fold octahedron <><><><> = 8 surface equilateral stabilizing triangles
5-fold icosahedron = <><><><><><><><><><> 20 triangle equilateral stabilizing triangles
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4-fold cube/hexa-hedron [ ] = 6 equilateral surface squares
5-fold pentagon dodecahedon = 12 equilateral pentagons
In Meta-space of infinite conceptual theory, these five can be eternally subdivided into mirco-infininity ie a never ending set of smaller and smaller subsets of the original five and only five.
Yet this is no differrent then a never ending transcendental Pi or infinite set of whole numbers. No such infinite set of numbers are written in any PC or in the sky. They only exist as a Meta-space fantasy. You will never understand this, until you ego can be placed to the side to let logical, common sense critical thinking.
Spirit-1 Meta-space concept of infinite this or that exists.
non-spirited, macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space exists and embraces the finite ocuppied space Universe { @ }. Meta-space Ego blocks your way logical common sense critical thinking truths, based on what humans observe
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@Lemming
It's not that separate points of view, truths, are not both true separately,
Here is one viewpoint from one source. World Wildlife Fund.
...." Water covers 70% of our planet, and it is easy to think that it will always be plentiful. However, freshwater—the stuff we drink, bathe in, irrigate our farm fields with—is incredibly rare. Only 3% of the world’s water is fresh water, and two-thirds of that is tucked away in frozen glaciers or otherwise unavailable for our use.
.....As a result, some 1.1 billion people worldwide lack access to water, and a total of 2.7 billion find water scarce for at least one month of the year. Inadequate sanitation is also a problem for 2.4 billion people—they are exposed to diseases, such as cholera and typhoid fever, and other water-borne illnesses. Two million people, mostly children, die each year from diarrheal diseases alone.
...Many of the water systems that keep ecosystems thriving and feed a growing human population have become stressed. Rivers, lakes and aquifers are drying up or becoming too polluted to use. More than half the world’s wetlands have disappeared. Agriculture consumes more water than any other source and wastes much of that through inefficiencies. Climate change is altering patterns of weather and water around the world, causing shortages and droughts in some areas and floods in others.
...At the current consumption rate, this situation will only get worse. By 2025, two-thirds of the world’s population may face water shortages. And ecosystems around the world will suffer even more.""
Yes, doom = gloom = slow death of poetry on Earth. I fell into the danger Zone is words to a song I think.
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@Lemming
Dystopia would likely lead to some unpleasant item
.."Arizona announces limits on construction in Phoenix area as groundwater disappears"
Too little too late. Fresh water is on the way out. humanity --8 billion and grwoing--- is crusing for a bruising, just dont let anyone try and tell them the truth.
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@zedvictor4
Ebuc is now theorising multiverses.
Explaining a theory for othes, that, others have put forward over the years in no way ---accept in your mind perhaps--- that I do not give such scnearios any validity what so ever, and more so wheny or you others add infinite to there mix.
Ive always been very clear with my regards cosmic scenarios. An avoid false narratives.
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@zedvictor4
Not that I haven't recently proposed to Ebuc the Multiverse idea in response to their theory of infinite unoccupied space.
The fundamentals of multi-verse are that some of these isolated { localized } universes are moving away from each other at speeds beyond the speed-of-radiation
....<<<<<O<<<<< speed-of-radiation >>>>>> O >>>>>>>>>>>...................ergo,
the creatures in those universe can never know of the other universe, becuase there is no occupied space connection between the two universes.
So there can be a finite set of these or infinite set of them, and some are connected, some are not may connect, and some will never connect.
1} option one a non-wholistic { no integrity of whole } of disconnected { isolated universes } we have to ask, how did this slack of integrity scenario come about? Its just eternally been that way.
2} it started from an integrated big bang and evolved in to dissconnectd, faster than speed-of-radiation universes? Well if the Dark Inflation period of expanding space occurred, then maybe the universes were never connected to begin with and the Dark Inflation Energy period just expanded that disconnection of all of them.
....2a} infinite = lack of integrity as a wholistic set ----macro-infinite truly non-occupied space inherenly lacks integrity because there is no occupied space to be intetgral--------
....2b} finite = systemic [ 4 ] and structural / 3 \ integrity of wholistic set ---ultra-micro Gravity being the unifying integral force, as well as its geometrically diametric Dark Enery, that, we may associate with any inflationary ides of BIg Bang as Dark Inflation { DI } ex
...............DE<<<<<<<<<<<(<<<<(<<<(<<(<(<(<(<<<<<<DI<<(<o>)>>DI>>>>>>>>)>)>>)>>>)>>>>)>>>)>>>>>>>>DE........
...........space......always outer pulling-inward Gravity>( time )<DE>( tiime )<Gravity always outer pulling-inward
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Every day is a wholey day, we just dont always recognize that.
Biologic life is so precious and rare.
Rare Earth ..I just want to celebrate another day of living.
The only white band to cut album at Motown records
One, two, three, four
I just want to celebrate another day of livin'
I just want to celebrate another day of life
I put my faith in the people
But the people let me down
So, I turned the other way
And I carry on, anyhow
That's why I'm telling you
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Had my hand on the dollar bill
And the dollar bill flew away
But the sun is shining down on me
And it's here to stay
That's why I'm telling you
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of livin'
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Don't let it all get you down, no, no
Don't let it turn you around
And around and around and around and around
Well, I can't be bothered with sorrow
And I can't be bothered with hate, no, no
I'm using up the time but feeling fine, every day
That's why I'm telling you I just want to celebrate
Oh, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day
Oh, I just want to celebrate another day of livin'
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Don't let it all get you down, no, no
Don't let it turn you around
And around and around and around and around
Round, round, round
Round, round, round, round, round
Don't go round
I just want to celebrate
I just want to celebrate
I just want to celebrate
Said I just want to celebrate (celebrate)
I just want to celebrate (I want to celebrate)
I just want to celebrate (I got to celebrate)
I just want to celebrate
I just want to celebrate
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Dino Fekaris / Nick Zesses
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@Lemming
I just watched the BBC " The Fall : again, with Gillian Anderson. If I didnt get it the first time I did this time, it was all about men vs womens viewpoint.
The serial killer violence of movie is diffcult to watch. If a person can get past that the other theme becomes obvious.
One of the lines Gillian --the SIO in investigation states--- after the devestated wife attemtps to take her own life, is that ' women more often use their anger to hurt themselves or those who are etentions of her self', in this case it was her children.
Whereas the more uses anger more often against others. So there are many tidbits like these and other showing viewpoint of woman vs man in similar situations going on in the movie. There is probably a reviews{s] that explain this primary theme of the series.
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@zedvictor4
Once again in a roundabout way you admit that Ebuc-speak is not necessarily representative of anything factually representative of something.
Where do see me saying any such thing you infer above. More false narrative projection on your part.
Ive been clear, --and you avoid like the plague--- that, some of what I present is speculation, some is fact, some is well documented truths.
And all of it is obvious, when I have the correct grrammar which includes the correct placement of words in a sentence, etc.
Ive repeatedly ask you too address any specific comments by me ---and your rarely do that--- that you or others have question about. Simple, not complex to grasp that repeated statement. Of course the ego likes to save face by not addressing that which may place itself in doubt of its approach to others. Far easier to make false narratives, and projections that infer anything other than what is presented and often obvious, logical, common sense critical thinking pathways.
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@zedvictor4
And so you agree that Ebuc-speak isn't obviously true.
1} You show some little actual comprhension of any of my concepts as presented, as show by you in ability to address any of the specifics as presented,
2} you show little ability to address any of the logical, common sense pathways I present to reach my conclusions,
3} you show little ability to provide definitive clarity for most of you givens ex " God principle ", ' infinite potential ", etc,
4} your very good at presenting the obvious with Forrest Gumpy type phrases.
You get a small e for you effort, { thank you } as Ive laid out previously to you. And here we are once again, with your not adding too or invalidating any of my givens, and certainly not doing so with any logic, common sense critical thinking in any of the threads Ive created ex "Cosmic Scenarios".
humans have been using 2ndary picto-grahic symbolisms for 1000's of years and still to this day and you and others create a false narrative in regards to my use of texticonic symblisms that, Ive used along with definitively descriptive clarity. This is sad lack of moral and intellectual integrity on your, and others, to save face/ego.
The ego cannot die, however, ego can be placed to the side long enough to allow sincerity of heart and mind of any concepts
..................space......Gravity>( time ) i ( time )Gravity........space.....
i = Spirit-1 Meta-space ego/identity, concepts, intellect etc
( ) =Spirit-3 geodesic outer surface set of nodal events as ultra-micro Gravity. ---old logic, common sense critical thinking---
)( = Spirit-4 geodesic inner surface set of nodal events as ultra-micro Dark Energy ---old logic, common sense critical thinking---
time = Spirit-2 inside tube of torus as physical reality aka observed { quantised } time aka energy
...space--- = macro-infinite, and truly non-occupied space
:--) = smiley face
......space.....( * ) i ( * ).......space...
* * = bilateral biologic consciousness as resultant with context of observed time reality, that, may have accesss to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts, with most complex entity of Universe being human female with human male 2nd in complexit ---barring ideas of two or more women ergo a planet of women and men etc, and barring black hole phenomena and of course barring the idea of Universe { @ }.
@ = 2ndary symbolism for Universe in case you couldnt grasp in the line above, i repeat it in Gumpy-like obvious way for you as if worn on a Gumpy T-shirt as he runs on highway
/\/\/\/ or as ^v^v^ = Euclidean texticon representation of the more curved sine-wave pattern associated with some if not all Spirit-2 fermionic mattter and bosonic forces aka Spirit-2
.....space............(/\/\/)(/\/\/)............space..................
I believe finite Universe is composed of finite set of overlapping, interacting, transforming Quantum Space-time Tori, that, can be expressed in 2D as a lattice pattern of four parrallel lines/levels. with sequential set of numbers, in asymmetrical patterns of hexagons with numerical nuclei as observed time reality/energy.
We also fine all prime numbers, ---except 2p and 3p--- on the top ( outer Gravitational geodesic } line, along with other non-prime number. Any significance of this set of prime number set is not known at this time.
With the above 2D lattice of four lines, curved around to meet themselves, and then conceptualize geodesic trajectories between 1-2, 4-5p, 7p-8, 10-11p etc we define the outer and inner geodesics of the toroidal tube.
On the inside of the tube via invagination trajectoris from outer and inner surface set of nodal events, we find the sequence of numbers 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc, that I associate with physical reality { Spirit-2 } as they nuclear numbers define a sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/\/ or as ^v^v^
This is the cosmic trinary primary ubset of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ }.
..............space..................@...................space..........................simple, not complex to grasp, even for a Gumpy-like person. * ! *
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@sadolite
Sad-o-denial...This is about the entire Congress and Trump isn't President or in Congress. Time to move into and live in the present.
Your in denial of truth regarding Trumpet { sick-n-head sack of crap } and,
in denial of the present ex sic-n-head currently running --and leading in polls--- for president again, and,
in denial of his ex-vice president Apocalypse Pence { sic-n-head } also running for president, currently.s
Why your in denial of these peoples moral ineptitude and you past and c continued support of such sic-n-head immoralty, speaks to your personal lack of moral integrity.
OGP......Man I wish we could go back to the days when all we had to worry about was Jan 6 instead of nuclear war.
Trumpet and his cult of Jan 6 rioters >>> Apocalypse Pence >>> Christian Evangelical Nutters >>> Nuclear War >>> Burn Baby Burn
..."Shouted out by the Watts rioters of 1965, the phrase "Burn, baby! Burn!" had actually gotten its start as a catchphrase used by the popular radio disc jockey known as Magnificent Montague. Then working at Los Angeles radio station KGFJ, Montague had been using the phrase to introduce records he felt were really hot."...
....“our slogan must not be “Burn, baby, burn.” It must be, “Build, baby, build.” “Organize, baby, organize.” Yes, our slogan must be “Learn, baby, learn,” so that we can earn, baby, earn.”
― Martin Luther King Jr., The Radical King
― Martin Luther King Jr., The Radical King
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@sadolite
"Run by petulant children"
Yeah Trumpet was the worse of that and also a psychotic narcissist with no morals. He is reason Jan 6 riot happen and should do jail time for his actions/words etc. Sic-n-head person, out in place by "petulant" people who lack morality, compassion etc, that, also sic-n-head to varying degrees.
USA got what the paid for and were still paying for that corrupt psycho.
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@YouFound_Lxam
1} Some morality is learned by a belt on the butt and has to with parent inducing child to stop causing the the parent undue problems { financial or otherwise }.
2} My relative and friend broke 30 windows out of public school they attended and my brother got belt on the butt. If my father every got any Christian stuff he never once ever gave any notion that even one word of it sunk into his brain.
3} All children experience pain most humans have and empathy center in their brain, that, like seeing someone else yawn, it makes us want yawn.
Seeing bad stuff happen to others makes us not want that to happen to ourselves. Did ancient humans--long before the Bible or knowing of any written biblical stuff--- have a set of morals? Of course they did because of the above 1, 2 and 3 sort of experiences, passed on from parents to children.
On Rocky and Bullwinlke cartoon show
.." Aesop and Son was a segment on "The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle". It is similar to "Fractured Fairy Tales," except it deals with fables instead of fairy tales.
The typical structure consists of Aesop attempting to teach a lesson to his son using a fable. After hearing the story, the son subverts the fable's moral with a pun."...
The typical structure consists of Aesop attempting to teach a lesson to his son using a fable. After hearing the story, the son subverts the fable's moral with a pun."...
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@zedvictor4
If something remains theoretical, then it does so.
Forrest Gumpy speak of obvious Old news
If a theory is proven, then it is no longer a theory.
More Gumpy speak of obvious
Intellectually moving forwards where applicable.
More Gumpy speak
Nonetheless, if we understood everything then we would understand everything.
Gumpy again
But we do not.
Gumpy obvious again.
Neither me, nor John_C_87 nor Ebuc.
No one here claiming to know everything Zed. Are you trying to create a false narrative about others?
Nor anyone else for that matter.
Gumpy speaks the obvious again.
What Gumpy does not do, is address any of the specific givens, as presented, with any logical, common sense critical thinking, that adds to those givens presented, or invalidates them. Why? Because, as we approach absolute truth, it becomes more difficult to refine our definitive descriptions to the most pure presentation of the absolute truth.
Observed { quantised } time is the only dimension of occupied space as physical reality aka energy ergo fermionic matter and bosonic forces. Simple not complex to grasp. In synergetics time is frequency. ..all that exists is moderation/modulation of angle and frequency....b Fuller, however,
that is speaking only to occupied space, not Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts i.e. concepts of frequency not an actual occupied space frequency.
Here is where the Cosmic Trinary Set is always the base reference for all that is considerable. We could say that the Cosmic Trinary Set is our Meta-space safety net.
:--) oops there is another one of those iconic 2ndary symbolisms that send some people into false narrative mode. When was automobiles started using those iconic 2ndary symbolism for wipers, lights etc. And differrent cars may have had a differrent icon, and then the new icons came along and we all were on a learning curve
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There exists only five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra. This is that has ever been seen and no others will ever be seen.
This aka eternal absolute cosmic principle aka absolute truth. The more we refine our definitive descriptions the closer we come to absolute truth. Until then we just orbit the absolute truth trying to get closer to it.
It is safe to say that, we are trapped by absolute. So when some say, the truth will set you free, this is not always the case.
..'1] objectively observe and harvest the info,
..2} sort the info into catagories,
...3} winnow out patterns and principles from those catgories,
...4} subjectively apply those patterns and principles to technology --and Meta-space maths---, that used to sustain the integrity of self, others, environment and Universe { @ }. '...para-phrasing bucky fuller, with some additions of my own.
All prime numbers fall on the following line, that pretend goes onward infinitely:
1...2p....3p....4....5p...6...7p...8....etc
Or we can say that, all prime numbers --except 2p and 3p-- fall only on the 2nd line --along with non-prime numbers-- in the following pattern:
...0.................................6................................12.................etc
.........1....................5p.......7p...................11p.......13p.........etc
...............2p........4....................8........10...............................etc
....................3p..............................9.......................................etc
From the latter set of above truths we can translate that into a 2D hexagon, with 6 radii, where we go around in a semi-spiral sequence, and all prime numbers ---except 2p and 3p--- fall only on two of the radii, that, are seperated by a single radii between them. In this pattern zero { 0 } is the nuclear { centered ]
............................................21...................................................20............................
.................................................15........................................14...................................
......................................................9..........................8..................................................
.........................................................3p............2p..........................................................
..................................16........10...........4........0..............1......7p.......13p.......19p etc....
..............................................................5p..........6........................................................
........................................................11p...................12................................................
..................................................17p...............................18..............................................
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@zedvictor4
Be honest, have you ever fully understood their symbolic narratives.
More plugging way without validity. Basically the ego trying to save face by attributing a false narrative to ebuc. This old game by others whose ego walks in fear of truth
Universe { @ } is not big deal, except for Zed who cant grasp anyone in Universe having 2ndary symbolism { icon } that they want associate with a word or phrase. The problem is with you Zed and others.
Sine-wave pattern ^v^v and /\/\/ is too deep for you or others.
And so on and so on as Ive laid very definitive over and over and over and over for many years. ( * * ) = bilateral biologic ergo consciousness. OMG what is ebuc talking about? More of others whose ego walks in fear of truth so they create false narrative to save ego/face.
Please share when you want to address my givens as presented, with any questions, or any shred of logic, common sense critical thinking that adds to them or invalidates them. You certainly have never done that.
Your --and many others--- are the ones not being honest. Far easy to throw false narrative, than do any comprehensive thinking
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Yep, another way of saying sequential universes....An idea that I have suggested to you many times in the past.....But because this doesn't correspond with Ebuc-speak you dismiss it.
"sequential universes" can mislead us into thinking of multiple seperate isolated universes, instead of only one, sum-total capital U, Universe { @ }.
Your above could mean a numerically sequential set local isolated/seperate local onto themselves only, universes as 1 here, and 2nd one over here, and 3rd, one over hear, etc. You and others have made statements of more than one universe in existence aka 'many universes' scenarios and infinite set of such local universes.
Then I have to repeatedly clarify again and again why your so may of your repeated presentations lacks logic, common sense critical thinking. So once again, if I present a scenario that you or others want to add to or invalidate, then please share the logic, common sense critical thinking, based on observations, then please share. You certainly have never done that.
....Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } = no creation, only eternal transformation of cyclic phase states of existence, complemented by a finite set of eternally existent physical laws and cosmic principles........
Which nonetheless, still doesn't account for the basic conundrum of a beginning, aka something from nothing...The overwhelming question that you refuse to consider because you cannot account for it.
False. You ears and mind is closed to pretty much everything I present and you never offer any logical, common sense critical thinking, that, adds to my givens or invalidates them.
You keep speaking illogical lack of common sense critical thinking of this something { occupied space } "connundrum", that, is and origin or "beginning" of occupied space Universe { @ }. So your always avoid addressing my comments directly as presented and want to try to weasel in your "God principle" this or that, "beginnging" "conundrum" many universes, or multiple universes etc
So go back to basics Zed and learn what the word ' eternal ' means, as Ive clearly been presenting that for 30 years or more.
........Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } = no creation, only eternal transformations of cyclic phase/states of existence, complemented by a finite set of eternally existent physical laws and cosmic principles........
So you cannot prove the 1st law of conversion.
Ive never claimed proof of anything Ive presented. I present logical, common sense critical thinking based on observations of humans, that, have led to a belief in the existence of eternally existent physical laws, and cosmic priniciples. When you have proof that adds to or invalidates in of my givens, please share. You have not ever done that.
...........Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } = no creation, only eternal transformations of cyclic phase/states of existence, complemented by a finite set of eternally existent physical laws and cosmic principles........
The point at which theory fails then
I have no idea what "theory" your going on about, just as I have no idea of "potential" you keep going on about, and your " God principle " you keep going on about.
And again, your something { occupied space } from truly non-occupied space lacks any shred of logic, common sense critical thinking. Might as well go round saying there is potential for biologically life polka dotted unicorns being born out of Toyota trucks on surface of any moon with no atmosphere.
..Cosmic Trinary Set: Spirit-1 Meta-space , macro-infiite truly non-occupied space, that, embraces Spirit-2 { observed { quantised } time aka physical reality { energy }, 3 { Gravity ( ) } and 4 { Dark Energy )(....,
....Only five possible regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra existence, of which only three are structurally stable { 3-fold tetrahedrdon, 4-fold octahedron and the 5-fold icosahedron }......
........Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } = no creation, only eternal transformations of cyclic phase/states of existence, complemented by a finite set of eternally existent physical laws and cosmic principles........
.....Spirit-1 Meta-space: relative truth, absolute truth, false narrative......
You want proof and Ive never claimed to have, much less offer any proofs. You want proofs yet you offer no proofs that invalidate any of my givens as stated. Much easier for you to not address what is presented and try to save face and try to save face/ego, by dancing around those givens as presented with all kinds of "potential" this or that and other.
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@FLRW
ebuc, I agree with Zed that the fact is, we know very little if nothing about the Universe's creation, and what might have preceded it.
Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } = no creation, only eternal transformation of cyclic phase states of existence, complemented by a finite set of eternally existent physical laws and cosmic principles.
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@zedvictor4
Prove the first Law of conservation.
Prove it is not the case. This is well accepted science since 1800's Zed. When you something to offer that disproves 1st law please share. It is all scientist have observed. If you observed violation, please share with us all your observation of violation of 1st law of conservation.
The theoretical first Law of conservation is only relative to what you think you know.
Ok here we go with Gumpy lack of logic again.
But may not be relative to what you don't know.
Ok Gumpy when you know what all other humans on Earth dont know, please share it with us. And since you want proofs of 1st law, then you should also provide your truths of knowing what all humans dont know.
Ok Zed the Gump, your rambling on again, know dont know, know dont know.
Thump yourself on your head a few times Zed. Do you know you exist in time as an occupied space?
Ive hit my thumb with hammer many times zed, and I know, or at minimum believe I know that I exist in time as an occupied space.
Where in science and nature thread zed. At some point you should come to grips with some truth of the reality we exist in place your theory of those who know, dont know, and knowing theory is the true Gumpy way to not knowing reality, logic, common sense critical thinking etc.Y
I.e. Zed, your rambling is not putting in balls into the pockets of the pool table. Your ramblings are not hitting the ball back over the net to others who in science and nature realm of reality, for at least 50% of the time. Ha ha :--))
That's the thing with theory....It may not be correct.....Or may just be relatively compatible with something you perhaps know.The fact is, that we know very little if nothing about Universal creation, and what might have preceded it.We rely largely upon theory.Theory which will almost certainly be modified.
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@zedvictor4
So as far as we are able to know, everything that occurs in a Universe is real.
Zed you still not able to grasps catagories nor distinctions between phenomena that is quantised aka physical reality, and ultta-micro Gravity and Dark Energy.
It is like some kind of religious nutter who refuses logical common sense critical thinking and the facts of physics. I think your mentor Gump keeping you in Gumpy mentality.
Couldn't be more definitively clear, even if it came and smacked you in the face with a wet fish.
Zed, your constantly in denial of truths and facts presented to you. Why is that? To much Gumpy on the brain.
GOD principle. Such a simple concept, yet two imaginative theorists can't grapple with it.
And here we go with the religous gumpy non-logic once again. Not to mention that, once again, no shred of definitively descriptive clarification of your "God principle " and Ive been asking you for such for at least a year now.
Would time and space have any less potential?
Your cluless and rambling as to what time and space are. Ive provided you with much truth and definitive descriptive clarity on the issue, that, like most religious fundamentalist, you ignore for " God principle " and some alledged potential, that again, has no definitive descriptive clarity to go with it.
Because the potential of Time and Space preceded thinking species by aeons.
More ramblings from religous Gumpy stuck on a non-descripitive " potential " and non-descripive "God principle". Zilch is what you offerring us.
A little Gumpy now and then is cool. Your attempts to make it a religous practice is not cool
How did we occur without the potential to do so.
If you question is how to biologic life came to exist, there are many books over the years, and some experiments to attempt to create biological life in test tube. The best theve done is to create left-handed amino-acids, that biologic life uses. there is some other stuff out of those who claim to have created life. Ive not seen anything convincing yet,
Cosmic Ancestry proposes ---and ive considered as a possiblity--- is that biologic life is eternally existent, as Gravitational and Dark Energy encodings inside a black hole and on its 2D surface. This is to say some black holes are coding for all the exist in Universe. Or perhaps some kinds of black holes encodes some aspects of Universe and other black holes encode other aspects of Universe
Let's be honest.
I be happy just to see more logical, common sense critical thinking from you first and more acknowledgement you actually grasp any of the truths when presented to you.
Zed, the rest of your below is kinda of like ramblings of confused Gumpy person reaching out and not finding any clearly defined branchs that you hands can grab on to the next branch of significant thoughts. Sorry dude, but stuck in a rut going nowhere.
Is there anything more definitively unclear than theory.The clue is in the word theory.Extravagant ideas, never proven.Which might or might not be wholly or partially correct.Or not correct at all.
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1 triangle /\ + 1 triangle /\ = 4 triangles \Y/ { as tetrahedron ergo 12 surface angles} when applied synergetically via LINK
1 + 1 = 4 and 3 + 3 = 12 synergetically. Old news
4 * 12 ---60 degree angles--- = 720 degrees and 720 degrees = 2 circles = one tetrahedron
One circle = Pi + one circle = Pi and two circles of Pi total = 6.28 31 85307179586476925286766559
So a tetrahedron --has 6 chords/edges/vectors--- translates as 6.28 31 85 30 7 19 58 64 7 69 25 286 7 66 55 9
H,mm the 6 vectorial chords is close to the Pi/tetrahedron's 6.28 { rounds to 6.3 }
So the minimal circle { 2D enclosure } is a triangle, however, we can see from the above to get two circles { 720 degrees } we need the four surface triangles of the tetrahedron i.e. it takes two triangles to equal one curved circle.
So two Euclidean triangles { /\ /\ } are equal too one Riemann curved circle { O }. Ok, now we begin to grasp the differrence between a curved convex/positive space and a Euclidean { non-curved space }.
There also other ways we see this differrence of Euclidean vs Riemann positive curvature. With the curved sphere 120 right-tringles that Fuller used to discover his right-triangle data of his gegodesic domes. 902.33 LINK
And in the cubo-octahedron/vector equlilbrium we see how Archimedes disccovered that a curved VE/cubo-octahedron, had a outer surface area that was equal to the four, bisecting hexagonal planes that, define the VE/cubo-octahedron. Whereas with the Euclidean VE, the surface is slightly less.
..."The holographic principle states that the entropy of ordinary mass (not just black holes) is also proportional to surface area and not volume; that volume itself is illusory and the universe is really a hologram which is isomorphic to the information "inscribed" on the surface of its boundary"....
So we have the four bisecting plane areas of VE being equal to the curved outer surface { thank you Archimedes }.
.."Hawking's calculation fixed the constant of proportionality at 1/4; the entropy of a black hole is one quarter its horizon area in Planck units"...
So R Penrose proved Einstiens Gravitaional singularities within context of a black hole aka null geodesics or ' geodesic incompleteness'.
Hawking did the same for Universe in total Infinite density as prior to the Big Bang.
So when is math incorrect? When its answers are infinite magnitude.
..."This suggests that matter itself cannot be subdivided infinitely many times and there must be an ultimate level of fundamental particles. As the degrees of freedom of a particle are the product of all the degrees of freedom of its sub-particles, were a particle to have infinite subdivisions into lower-level particles, the degrees of freedom of the original particle would be infinite, violating the maximal limit of entropy density. The holographic principle thus implies that the subdivisions must stop at some level"...
Again, look at this LINE of a tetrahedron going to zero volume while maintaining its four planes, out side the surface of the VE as black hole equilibrium. It is not ever in equilibrium, because of entropy-syntropy. Because of Gravity-Dark Energy. Because of what goes in must come out again and what goes out must come in again.
Infinite = lack of structural and systemic integrity --no closure-
Finite = structural and systemic integrity --closure--- Triangle/circle/spiral around and around and around.
There is not gravity well, there is Gravity-dark Energy spirals around, that come closer together and never infinite because they have always been and always will be a finite set of overlapping and interfering Quantum Space-time tori.
The abstract numbers exist as the underlying sequence of order, that, always come around to meet themselves withing context of each finite set of overlapping, Quantum Space-time Tori. When the math says infinite, then the math is incorrect ergo the invention of re-normalization.
..."The field of “renormalization theory” emerged from a crisis in physics in the early 20th century, when physicists realized that this change of constants can produce infinite results in the case of quantum field theory, at the time considered to be the ultimate framework for the laws of nature at a microscopic scale. The problem was solved by a new technique (renormalization) by which the summation of an infinite number of energy levels at short distances was avoided by imposing a minimum cutoff on fields.
.......Shinichiro Tomonaga, a Nobel prize-winning physicist who joined RIKEN's Nishina Laboratory in 1932, played a seminal role in the development of renormalization theory. The son of a professor of philosophy at Kyoto Imperial University, Tomonaga worked on research in the area of quantum electrodynamics under the guidance of Yoshio Nishina.
.....In 1943, he published the “super-many-time theory,” which reconciled quantum mechanics with the theory of relativity. Tomonaga further developed these ideas in his work on renormalization theory, for which he, along with Julian Schwinger and Richard Feynman, was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1965."...
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@zedvictor4
Because how can something begin, If there is nothing to begin with.
Here go with the illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking again. Zed when you going to learn about the 1st law of conservation?
Naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed i.e eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ }.
At best we Universe infold to two three possible states/phase's of seemingly 2D only existence. These can be shown with Fuller jitterbugging 4-fold VE.
It folds into at least 7 exotic shapes of space. All triangles ergo complete 3-fold structural integrity, that, then transform through back through 4-fold existence and contains a partial version of 5-fold existence.
There exists no other simple child-like toy that expresses the fundamentals of Universe, in a Euclidean format. At least that I'm aware of. Please share if you another.
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@zedvictor4
So as far as we are able to know, everything that occurs in a Universe is real.
Lacks definitive clarity Zed.
Ultra-micro Gravity and Dark Energy are not in "real " catagory because, they have not been quantised nor quantified. Ive made this clear for some years now.
Physical reality = energy = observed { quantised } time via fermionic matter and bosonic forces, that, you have yet to ever mention the latter. You seem ignorant clue-less to the latter even tho I remind you constantly. These Spirit-2 reality are associated with sine-wave ^v^v patterning, that you also seem ignorant of even tho I make it clear to you many times.
Now, notwithstanding a GOD principle.
Zed once again, you offer little to no definitive clarity one what you "GOD principle" is specifically.
The Cosmic Trinary Set --think table of contents for book labled Cosmic Trinary Set----- Ive clearly laid out is the most wholistic set:
1} Spirit-1 Meta-space
-----conceptual line-of-demarcation
2} eternally existent, macro-infinite truly non-occupied space, that, embrace this following
3} Spirit-2 { reality }, 3 { Gravity } and 4 { Dark Energy }, eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ }. None --includes you--- have ever offerred any logical common sense critical thinking that, adds to the set or invalidates it. Those who try have of course failed.
And if we were to hypothetically remove the intelligent species from the equation.
That is like each of considering the time before each existed as a human. We have no memory of such time.
Would Time and Space have any less potential?
Again, until you grasp there exists two primary kinds of time { observed and Meta-space abstraction } you lack the basic initiating starting place regarding the word time.
Also Zed you dont seem to be able to grasp the concepts of eternity.
"Eternity is to time, as,
Infinite is to space."...Bucky Fuller
1, 2 and 3 of the Cosmic Trinary Set are eternally existent.
Past.......relative......to NOW.....relative to future via causality
Does Universe have memory of its last cyclic phase/state, before its Big Bang/WOW!? Roger Penrose thinks it does and can be partially found in the cosmic background radiation. If I recall correctly this involves black hole phenomena that come close to transcending what is known and can be remembered by Universe.
However, there is also quantum entanglement { superpostion } i.e. that which is both a 1 and a 0. ON and off, active and non-active, left-and right, dead and alive etc spooky-action-at-a-distance or with some cosmic particle.
I say this state/phase is geometrically not opposites ---as I believe Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )( are--- ratther they are states of precession i.e. at 90 degrees to each other +
The3-fold tetra{4}hedron has three such precessed --at 90 degees to each other--- edges/chords/struts/vectors and viewed as parrallel bisection LINK
The other thing to recall about the 3-fold minimal structure of Universe tetrahedron, is that its four surface planes are in the same 60 degree orientation as the f4-fold Vector Equilibrium { VE } See LINK to better understand this relationship and what I believe is one way to understand black hole phenomena.
And then recall that the VE jitterbugs into at least 7 exotic shapes ex two kinds of negative and positive curvature, sine-wave patterning, albeit withing context of a Euclidean format. Without access to computer graphics I dont know what resultants can occur in formats that are not Euclidean.
One of the most interesting to me is its phase/state of seemingly quasi-2D, that is both a square sine-wave having positive and negative curvature form, and from there,
it fin-folds into a seemingly 2D, hexagonal { 6 triangles } phase/state, with a 7th set of two triangles that act appear as a tail wing to the hexagon, as if occupied space says, I refuse to go into a purely 2D only state.
When this tail wing spreads its two triangles apart, the whole hexagon out folds back to the positive negative curvature state/phase of square sine-wave patterning.
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@3RU7AL
any goal
Humans can have a goal within the known cycle of birth and death.
Chaos is the Meta-space minds in-ability to find the order of their immediated environment.
Universe has a cycles of birth and death also, ergo, as above so below goes the old saying.
There is only the moment that is eternally in momentum forward to whatever degree in whatever direction.
Humans attempt to steer their direction, their environment and in perhaps the Universe.
Hope > Faith > Spirit-1, 2, 3 and 4 is the basis of existence.
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@zedvictor4
Though I suppose TIME, to a greater extent all depends upon the purity of word and how we might corrupt it.
Purity = more and more refined definitions of the concept were trying present, as we approach absolute and never arriving at absolute truth, just orbiting closer in our occupied space time of accessing Meta-space time via our occupied space observed time.
1} Meta-space time is abstract units of measure applied to this or that or other kinds of duration.
2} observed { quantised } time is physical reality of fermiionic matter and bosoic forces, that, both are associated with a sine-wave pattern presented as ^v^v^ or as /\/\/ with the keyboard characters.
If Fuller is correct that, time is the only dimension, I understand what he means. He goes on to say in synergetics time is frequency, and that frequency relates to shell growth of the 4-fold Vector Equlibrium { VE } or sub-division of his VE i.e. multiplication-by-division of any polyhedron ex the 5-fold icosahedrons 20 circles can conceptually be subdivided and create 120 right-triangles. --see viruses icosahedral design--
........>........entropic-arrow-of-time-------->-------heat death of Universe
.......past....>....>..in..>( * ) i ( * )>..out ..>......future...... heat death of finite Universe
.........past.....<.....<..out..<( * ) i ( * )< ..in........future........syntropric growth of finite Universe
----<------- syntropic-arrow-of-time-----<------future......syntropic output of Universe's
>>>>>>mass-attraction<<<<<<<<<<<<<<mass-repulsion>>>>>>>>Gravity-Dark-Energy is savior of occupied space integrity
.......space................( time )( time )......................space composed of many interacting and overlapping Quantum Space-time Tori { StT }
.......space............gravity>(time)(time)<gravity.............space.........gravity always on outer perriphery of finite Universe
.........space............(time)<Dark Energy>(time).........space............dark energy always inner surface of each Quantum Space-time Tori
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@Math_Enthusiast
1 triangle /\ + 1 triangle /\ = 4 triangles \Y/ and 12 angles when synrgetically applied = the four surface triangles of a tetrahedron \Y/
4 * 12 ---60 degree angles--- = 720 degrees and 720 degrees = 2 circles = one tetrahedron
Now we have two sets of Pi ergo, Pi + Pi = 6.28 31 85 30 7 1 7 95 864 7 69 25 286 7 66 55 9 { one tetra set of 12 surface angles }
one tetra set of 12 angles to 2nd power = 39.4 7 841 7 60 435 7 43 44 7 533 7 96 39 99 50 5
one tetra set of 12 angles, plus Pi = 42.62 00 10 25 7 94 7 22 7 7 13 80 060 7 382 7 84
...note: 42 is Hitchhikers guides great computer answer to everything
2} one tetra set of 12 angles to 3rd power = 248.05 02 13 44 23 98 56 14 03 81 05 20 53 68 1
...note: there are no #7's in that resultant
7 is combination of structural integrity three-ness and systemic integrity as four-ness
Heptagon is first polygon with irrational interior surface angle 128.57 and the 7 of them total to 899.99 or 900.
900 is a whole lot of structural integrity as threen-ess. 900 / 3 = 300
However, the 12, 60 degree angles of tetrahedron = 720 degrees, so shall we compare 2D heptagon's 900 degrees to 3D tetrahedron's 720 degrees?
2D, 900 minus 3D, 720 = 180 degrees. H,mm 180 degrees makes me think of the diameter of a circle --aka two radii-- or as one half of circle and one half of Pi?
Pi / 2 = 1.5 7 0 7 96 326 7 94 89 66 19 23 13 21 69 1 63 98
..note: so this value is the half a Pi ergo half a circle in relation too the diameter of the circle? H,mm
Not sure where any of this would lead. First time Ive ever done this calculations before. kinda link comparing oranges and apples?
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@3RU7AL
truly impressive
3Ru, Did you watch the first episode? I finnished first and started 2nd episode. Waiting now to watch it at a friends house who has larger HD screen.
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@FLRW
Well stated.
Thank you FLRW, tho keep in mind that, I'm not an English major, and self taught typer in late 40's.
Tho ive been developing/evolving these concepts over 30 years, most times I type them out on spur of moment, and dont have the words phrases etc in best presentation to clarify the specifics of my concepts. Plus I do this and run out of time for various reasons. Oh well. I try.
Once I'm very clear, others should not have too much difficulty unless unfamiliar with geometric and physics terms used. Rarely has any one every provided any logical, common sense critical thinking that adds to my concepts or invalidates them.
The Quantum Space-time Torus is ---in my 2D presentation/format--- is rather simple. Unfortunaltly Ive never had skills to to do a nice 3D version and no one has come along to offer my assistance in doing so, ergo, I have onlly texticonic presentation to offer for most part, with occasional link to some graphics that only approximate some of my concepts.
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@FLRW
stupidest Republican President cut the top tax rate to 37 percent.
.."After the House vote, Trump praised House Republican leadership for delivering the $1.5tn tax cut plan."
national debt ++++++++>>>>
National revenue - - - - <<<<<<
The American way,
>>>sleep in the hay,
>>>>>fear not they say,
>>>>>>>on the very next day,
>>>>>>>>>>>when all the but rich,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will have to pay.
Few consider,
>>>the global litter,
>>>>>and resources turn bitter,
>>>>>>>>>and slowly we fall into cosmic twitter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>tik-tok-tik-toc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as humanity awaits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as humanity awaits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Earths baby sitter.
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@Greyparrot
Ok Putin
Putin >
>>Trumpet
>>> Apocalypse Pence
>>>>> Ron De Sanctimonius
>>>>>>> Orange-Grey-Parrot
>>>>>>>>>>> USA empire defaults in near future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of liberty{?}, justice-for-all{ ? } and the American way?
We all live in a sinking submarine, a sinking submarine, a sinking submarine..sung to 60's Beatles tune
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@oromagi
@FLRW
Trump was sworn into office. To be fair, he did give himself a big tax break. Putin told him to cut taxes on the rich and that it wouldn't hurt the country.
2017 huge tax cuts--republicans gift themselves and rich--- meant less revenue to pay for rising debt, and then pandemic hit and debt soared even higher.
The problem is 2-fold:
1} too much spending, and,
2} not enough revenue.
There is probably some simple math to associate with this above 1 and 2, however, I'm not a mathematician nor and economist.
Rising spending 1+++
Less revenue - - -1
= USA empire will default in near future?
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@n8nrgim
Rich is relative to poor
define poor and define rich.
Global standard vs USA standard etc.
Without a commitment by a global humanity --or dictator thereof--, regarding rich vs poor does not significantly change much of our global concerns of 8 billion plus humans wanting more and more and growing on Earth with its finite resources. Even the amount of solar gain is finite.
When the polar ice caps go, then......amongest many things predicted there is the unknowns.
..."One important thing that will happen is groundwater contamination. If the sea level is rising, there is going to be infiltration of saltwater in groundwater reserves further inland. So even though you may think that you're safe because you are higher than 250 feet, your well may now be contaminated and you can’t irrigate because it's salty water.c""
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God = observed { quantised } time --that is resultant of outer Gravitational ( ) and inner Dark Energy )( womb of Great Mama.
Great Mama { geodesic space } is manager of Great Papa sine-wave associated time ^v^v^
...space......( * ) i ( * ).........space.....
.....space......( time ) i ( time ).......space....
......space....( ^v^v ) i ( ^v^v )........space......
i = ego/identity/identifier/self aka Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
.." we are not the person we were yesterday"...Bucky Fuller
..."The more we refine our definitions the closer we get to absolute truth"....bucky Fuller
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@cristo71
So he got 60 million votes last time. Does he get less votes if he is convicted of crime, and/or does jail time? Some future is not easy to predict
The only people who dont grasp the above is Trumpets cult following Trumpeteers aka follow the narcissistic psychosis leader irrespective of all else, ergo, irrespective of Apocalypse Pence, >> or the less-nutter{?} Haley{?}, De Santis{??}, Cruz{???}, Greene{ !!!!!! } etc
>>>Newt Gingrich explains Trumpet to Fox viewers.<<<
...“One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show."...
.." “The fact that [Trump] speaks to the children says everything you need to know about the educational level the Right is shooting for,” one person on Twitter wrote. “I don’t see where that’s good for somebody that’s running a country. SMH,” another commented. "....
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@zedvictor4
As I see it, math is created by a thinker, and in that context math is just another representation or calibration of potential.
Discovered by thinker ---Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego---.
Time and Space are potential, and Matter creates observable potential.
Spirit-2 = Observable { quantised } time is fermionic matter and bosonic forces.
Physical reality aka energy is ability { potential? } to do work. Brain { reality } processing requires energy { reality }.
Time and space are just descriptions of the potential we observe relative to matter.
See above Spirit-2 = Observed { qunatised } time
Geodesic occupied primary space = Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(. Simple
If our universe is limited by a finite space then what do you imagine beyond?
Eternally existent, occupied space Universe is not limited by a finite space. Occupied space Universe is finite, yet may expand-contract, within context of the eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied space. Simple. Why make these words into a convoluted mess that is less sensible, makes no sense.
But why would Infinite space beyond our finite space necessarily be unoccupied.
Infinite = lack of integrity.
Finite = systemic and structural integrity...." the state of being whole and undivided".....occupied space Universe is whole by virtue of Spirit-3, outer Gravity ( ) and Spirit-4, inner Dark Energy )( and to whatever degree, the invaginated resultant of those two, is sine-wave^v^v^ associated physical reality aka Spirit-2.
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So we recall that14 nodal events –-as the graviton-DarkEon quantum particle--- has 91lines-of-relationship, we also see that at 18 we have 153lines-of-relationship via 18^2, minus 18 / 2 = 153.
And here we mustrecall, that, at 14 we believe the graviton-darkEon cannot beisolated out from space and time, as a quantum particle, rather, the graviton-darkEon must remainas a Pulsation only, within a greater torus, that ends at 18,because, it is at 18 we have the first nodal event after 14, that, comes backaround to meet with 0 on the same line { top peak of sine-wave } and form a quantum Space-timetorus, since 18/0 share the same location once we see that, the each of the four lines in 3D, are cuvred around to meet its other end i.e. 0....6...12......18 meet as 18/0.
Again the 91 lines-of-relationship of the graviton-darkEon quantum pulsation, is within context of 14 nodal events on the 2D lattice, that, define a truncated at two di-polar ends, triangular, di-pyramid LINK i.e. this defines three triangles | | | i.e. three nodal events at one end, three in middle and three at the other end.
And in the 2D lattice we can see it has five nuclear nodal events that define a sine-wave /\/\
I say graviton-darkEon is a pulsation because of my original idea, via a Euclidean concept of the truncated,di-pyramid, is that, as the triangle _ three nodal events } at one end closes, the triangle{ 3 nodal events } in middle expands, and when the middle triangle { three nodal events } closes, the triangle [3 nodal events } at next end opens.
Think of it as artery and blood pulsation { heart beat } we can feel the pressure of in our wrists, or other places on our body.
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@Savant
You would understand better than me. Thanks for thoughts
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Primarily would should hear from women across nation and see what they want out of the many options
Options vary based on current existing facilities or new facilities to be built.
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