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Virtual rape = sticking nose into pregnant womans bodily business is done without womans consent by those for purpose of preventing pregnant woman from having the ability to make her choice to terminate or not, the embrionic/fetus/baby organism, that, for short period of time ---24 - 30 hrs-- leaves ovary and travels in fallopian tube to become implanted on uterus wall.
O = egg and ~~> = spermazoa
(:) = fertilised egg takes place in fallopian tube
..." Transport through the tube takes about 30 hours. " LINK ....
---h,mmm, seemingly two differrent accounts --above and below-- of time it takes to from ovary to uterus---
... "Approximately 3 days after fertilization, a 16-cell conceptus reaches the uterus."..LINK
... Once inside the uterus, the conceptus floats freely for several more
days. It continues to divide, creating a ball of approximately 100
cells, and consuming nutritive endometrial secretions called uterine
milk while the uterine lining thickens. The ball of now tightly bound
cells starts to secrete fluid and organize themselves around a
fluid-filled cavity, the blastocoel. At this developmental stage, the conceptus is referred to as a blastocyst. Within this structure, a group of cells forms into an inner cell mass, which is fated to become the embryo ....
.....Pre-embryonic cleavages make use of the abundant cytoplasm of the
conceptus as the cells rapidly divide without changing the total volume....
....As the blastocyst forms, the trophoblast excretes enzymes that begin to
degrade the zona pellucida. In a process called “hatching,” the
conceptus breaks free of the zona pellucida in preparation for
implantation.
.....Implantation is complete by the middle of the second week. Just a few
days after implantation, the trophoblast has secreted enough hCG for an
at-home urine pregnancy test to give a positive result. ".....
(((v))) = invagination aka gastrulation and three germ layers are formed ectoderm-mesoderm-endoderm
......" As the third week of development begins, the two-layered disc of cells becomes a three-layered disc through the process of gastrulation, during which the cells transition from totipotency to multipotency.....
......." According to Wolpert, "It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation, which is truly the most important time in your life." Gastrulation is a major biological event that occurs early in the embryonic stage of human development. "....LINK
--------note: this is when the nerual spinal chord is developed-------
......The embryonic stage lasts through the eighth week following fertilization, after which the embryo is called a fetus " See above link....
( ** ) = fetus/baby after 8th week.
( * * ) = 40 weeks { approx. } a born out baby as independent individual human, that, needs still needs an external dependency by human{s}.
12 pairs{?} of cranial nerves --which includes largest nerve in human body the vagus nerve, which causes some female opera singers to have orgasm when the sing.
---note: 12 pairs = 24 and this is signifcant number related to the cubo-octahedron aka the Vector Equilibrium in Synergetics---
31 bilateral { pairs ergo 62 } of spinal nerves
---note: the 5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and 31 right-skew primary great circles, as it is define by left or right contractions of the above VE{ vector equilibrium }---- See LINK
---note: the VE is composed of 12-around-1 spheres is likened to cosmic pregnancy, and contraction occurs to pop out the nuclear one sphere { baby sphere }, and allow for torquing contraction to phase stage of a semi-existent, 5-fold icosahedron { lacking 6 chords/lines/struts}---- See LINK and specifically phase B
Pi^3 { XYZ aka 3D } = 31.00 62 7 66......80 29 98 201 7 54 7 631 506 710 1
---note: above and below that 7 occurs in overall 7th position and that above 00 makes the rational 31 more distince from irrational side-----
Pi^4 { abc-d } / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27.....585 00 609 309 11 00 831 7 21 76
-----note: this latter above is what I label as renormalization process to turn Pi^4 back to spatial abc-d dimensions, as in Pi^3 uses only spatial {XYZ/abc } considerations of time and Micho Kakus book Hyperspace, the 4th d is the volumetric diagonal that stems from the inside corner vertex of XYZ/abc and extends inward to create cube inside the outer cube [ [ ] ]----
Pi^4 minus 31 = Cosmic Pi-Time 66.4......02 81 43 53 7 02 61 7 06 09 64 01 7 688 7 05
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Well I dreamed that if you forgot something you knew it once, which meant it was part of your body of knowledge once, which means you had a body of knowledge; and since you're communicating in some form of English you still do.
..." total body of knowledge " includes all that has and is known by humans, so you dropped that claim --I guess--, and, tried to put it another way,
..." total body of knowledge " of the each individual human, and now you want to change it again, as,
... " total of body of knowldege " that we may or may not have access to on any given day, and you've dropped that,
..." crosschecked (integrated) with the total body of knowledge. ', whcih should be stated as that body of knowledge we can access at some given moment in time { day, month, year etc }.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Did you also predict he would be impeached twice, be a one term President, have the highest turnover of any administration, have the largest National deficits, and instigate a riot at the Capital as he tried to cling to power?
It is obvious that Trump is not the only idiot in USA. 60 million idiots voted for him. Sad :--( lack of some moral and some intellectual integrity
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Every mind has a total body of knowledge, the a rational person is consciously aware of the need to remove falsehoods from that body by reasoning/applying logic.
Huh? Your still dreaming of a reality that does not exist ex Ive forgotten lot a of knowledge and on bad days I cant even remmber some friends names, and I presume most other people not that much differrent for varying for age etc.
I have access to more or less of knowledge base, depending, and never have access to the total of all accumulated knowledge over many years.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Reason = logic consistently applied with all conclusions being crosschecked (integrated) with the total body of knowledge.
Huh? no one has "access to total body of knowledge." i.e. youur dreaming. I guess that is why the word dream is in your identity.
You dream or wish you had "access to total body of knowledge ".
There is the joke of someone from ancient past comes to exist here today, and we say,
we have all of the knowledge known to humans on this little device we hold here in our hands and we call it an iphone, and the person from past --lets say some great intellectual--- says,
wow, so what do people mostly talk about?, to which person with iphone in hands says, oh, we mostly just send pictures of our cats to each other. :--))
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@drlebronski
Gun control is like abortion issue.
...1} extremist state's, no abortion after conception because it is a human life ---even tho it has not taken its first breath, like born out of the pregnant woman do--, and they would have absolutely no gun control at all ie. it is the 1860's again, except the weaponry is so much more extreme each and every year ---humanity can kiss their ass good bye--- and the more wealthy you are the more extreme the weapons you can use to defend your family or, if trying to comit mass-murder of children or other before the police with can get to you.
..2} logic common sense state's, keep you friggin nose out of pregnant womans bodily business, unless she gives consent,
...3} moderates { compromise } fall somewhere in between above 1 and 2.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Uh huh, and in the meta-space mind ad populum is totally kosher, in fact it might be an infinite strawberry field for all you know.
Huh? Only two primary types of infinite and ive laid them out clearly for some years now:
..1} macro-infinite non-occupied space, ---meta-Universe/God---,
....2} Meta-space concepts of infinite this or that ex mathmatical infinite is a concept, knowing more nothing less and this is the catagory where your "infinite strawberry field " is found.
P.S. I glanced over this AI stuff, reading stuff like that and also most of the body of commentary from Google has left me completely convinced they will not achieve AI, they don't even know the problem and that explain why their greatest "successes" have come from black-box neural networks.
Huh? AI has already exist for some years now. I think you confusing AI with and AI that has achieved human consciousness and more complex consciousness as access to Meta-space mind/intellence/concepts.
Logic = algorithm ---ergo programmed or progrmable calculations---........
Reason = logic and common sense ergo, a potential for a more wholistic
consideration that is beyond the linear ....
Roger Penrose makes, --- in his book Emperors New Mind'--- makes four distinctions between AI and consciousness, tho I make the distinction between less complex consciousness .....to access to Meta-space mind/intelligence/concept and ego..... since all animals have consciousness to whatever degree:
His consciousness has appreciation of art, judgement of truth, and I forget the other two. See this LINK below of a person --narrator-- whose is critical of Penroses ideas of consciousness not being AI { an algotrithm }.
..." To
put in very simple terms: no matter what we add to our mathematical
system, a new Gödel sentence (or truth) will arise. And the truth of
that Gödel sentence can only be discovered via Platonic insight, not by the use of yet another algorithm.
....To broadly comment — critically — on Penrose’s position as just expressed.
.....No
one — not even a person Penrose (dismissively) calls “formalist” —
would ever deny that there are elements of reasoning, judgments,
thinking, etc. outside the system which the mathematician is presently
dealing with. No one needs to be an across-the-board Gödelian to realise
and accept that. So that means that we can indeed also “leap outside
the rigid confinements of any formal system” to reason, think, etc.
about the said system.
.....Yet should we draw all the same conclusions as Penrose himself does about all this?"...
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@SkepticalOne
@IwantRooseveltagain
Skepticla 1...Nope, sorry, just us wack jobs.
If that means only, or mostly men ---here at Debate.org--- whacking off, then I agree. Not many women here, that I'm aware of.
Women arrive at orgasms in other ways, tho less often, because of an attached stigma from young age.
......." The reason men are still masturbating more is a simple one: there is still a stigma surrounding female sexuality and this stigma affects female masturbation.
....."The notion that men masturbate more than women, on the surface, may seem to show us that men have an inherently stronger sex drive — but there's a lot more to it than that," Polly Rodriguez, co-founder and CEO of Unbound, a woman's sexual health company, tells Bustle. "This discrepancy has roots in adolescence. While for boys, masturbation is framed to them as natural, unavoidable, and even healthy — girls experience a very different narrative. Told from the get-go that their sexuality is to be controlled and contained, girls aren't taught about masturbation, so many view it as unnatural or even shameful. They're also rarely taught about their own pleasure when it comes to sex.
....This means that not only are they unaware about sources of pleasure, they're often too embarrassed or scared to explore them. If we were to teach young girls about their bodies, about pleasure, about the clitoris and about their sexuality (beyond how to defend against male sexuality), I think we might see more equivalent masturbation rates.".....
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@oromagi
How about that assassin Tyrannosaurus Rex cybernetically controlled by the Maquis de Sade? Does that ring a bell?Strangulena luring men to her lair in the bombed out ruins of Manhattan? No?
Rex vaguely, Marquis, but they may been whole other book. But I did have that book cause i remmber the cover
I've read Foster some. He wrote the novelization of Star Wars
Didnt know that. He is more light duty, junior high or so stuff. The one book I recall was a man who lived in a extra-large spacesuit, as it suppllied all of his needs and he was on this planet with all of these crystals.
I read a couple of early Doc Savages
He killed people in first five books, then developed guns that would only stun. Not well written story telling, but fine for my age group of super-hero, that went off to far flung places around the globe. They made a poor C or B grade movie with the actor who played TV tarzan in mid 60's as Doc. Eli Whitney or something.
Came out on Apple TV this spring! It gets decent reviews but it does not seem to have inspired much buzz, does it?
Darn I dont have access to Apple tv
I enjoyed The Expanse and
I think GoT actually surpassed the author but most just make me sad.
My adult-step son liked the Expanse. I started to watch it but did not give it enough time to really get into. Must try again.
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@oromagi
Love Zelazny! I know HBO bought rights to "Roadmarks" last year.
Wow, I remmber the cover, but none of the story, even after reading wiki. Hope HBO does something with it. Farme may have got his ideas from Zelazny.
Mark Twain and Burton vs King John and Hermann Goering? Machine gun
mounted Steamboats vs hang gliders? Cancer free smoking with
Neanderthals? Travel by suicide? Marvelous.
I read ' To Our Scattered Bodies Go ' first, and that was only the beginning of Riverboat series and the large mushrooms supplying stuff, and diving into river to die, only to be reborn.
4} the Piers Anthony triology.
I
assume you mean Xanth. I like his Adept series and Immortals series but I wouldn't put Anthony on the same level of the others discussed.
It was the Adept Triology. Blue Adept if I recall correctly. IF there were more in that trilogy I didnt read them. I did read his Carnivore book and that was last one.
Robert Dean Foster had couple of good books I liked also, but, Asimov was definitely top of my list, with Zelazny 2nd.
My first love as youngerster was Doc Savage and I must have had 35 or so of those books. Then came Conan series, then Foundation trilogy. I reread Foundation some 10 or more years later.
When will Foundation be a movie or series?????
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...." This states: “To behave intelligently in unexpected situations, an agent
must be capable of falling back on increasingly general knowledge and
analogising to specific but far-flung knowledge”......
ergo more wholistic,
...." The knowledge base is not a database – it consists of real-world axioms that CYC uses to reason about the world and understand your data. CYC’s
KB includes more than 10,000 predicates, millions of collections and
concepts, and more than 25 million assertions”. However, there were
shortcomings identified with the CYC project – particularly dealing with
the ambiguities of human language. ....
....This semantic network knowledge-base contains over 1.6 million
assertions of common sense knowledge such as the spatial, physical,
social, and psychological aspects of everyday life. It was launched in
1999 at the MIT Media Lab and began as a system called Open Mind Common
Sense. It has been successfully used in Chatbots and some natural
language support. "...
...." DARPA the US defense department’s research agency, has also recognized the
absence of common sense as being an important issue. They recently
launched a project called Machine Common Sense. As they say:“ The
absence of common sense prevents intelligent systems from understanding
their world, behaving reasonably in unforeseen situations, communicating
naturally with people, and learning from new experiences. Its absence
is considered the most significant barrier between the narrowly focused
AI applications of today and the more general, human-like AI systems
hoped for in the future”. DARPA’s approach is to use a two-pronged
strategy. The first strategy in their proposal involves building
computational models that learn from experience. The second strategy
seeks to develop a service that learns from reading the Web, like a
research librarian, to construct a common sense knowledge repository. "....
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No jail time for idiots, except on some occasions.
Trumpet needs jails time for immoral false narrative. Can such occur? No, because he didnt yell fire in a theater.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
aka mumbojumbo crust with a nice creamy mysticism filling.
The proof is in the pudding ----"creamy"--- the truth is in the Meta-space mind.
Any example one might bring forward of "common sense" vs "logic" can easily and immediately be restated in full context to show that the correct answer is logical and the wrong answer is not.
Intelligence vs common sense is is only briefly addressed here below
Common
sense is not rare, and is commonly used on daily basis by most humans
via in complement to intelligent/smart choices/decissions, so as not
make a jack-ass of themselves See Jack-ass movies. LINK
..." Common sense crucial to AI programs....
... Common sense is the knowledge that all humans have. Such knowledge is
unspoken and unwritten – we take it for granted. We acquire it
imperceptibly from the day we are born. For example, “animals don’t
drive cars” or “my mother is older than me”. This knowledge is often
used by human experts even when solving very narrow, domain-specific
tasks. This common-sense knowledge is something that we learn through
experience and curiosity without even being aware of it. We also acquire
a great deal of it in our lifetimes. "...
....AI systems do not have common sense knowledge and acquiring it has been
seen as important since their beginning. Furthermore, from all the
efforts made over many years, it’s become evident that building common
sense reasoning systems is a work-intensive and sometimes costly task.
In this paper, I show why common sense reasoning is so important, and
describe some approaches that have been used to build these systems.
These approaches have enabled common sense reasoning tasks to be used as
add-ons to AI client programs – such as Chatbots.....
...One of the founding fathers of AI, John McCarthy, was amongst the first
to realize its importance. He wrote a paper that was the first to
propose common sense reasoning through a hypothetical program called Advice Taker in 1959. This paper only described a specification for what a common-sense
program should do. However, it soon became apparent that there was a
need for working common sense knowledge programs to assist decision
making in AI expert systems. These systems represented the first
commercial boom period for AI, so common sense knowledge became seen as
an essential adjunct for their success.
....The reason why common sense reasoning was seen as important was that many of these systems were very competent at problem-solving,
but they were also brittle, because, they often gave meaningless
answers when trying to reason with unusual problem data. For instance,
as I show later, a medical diagnostic expert system didn’t realize that
it was given car data when it diagnosed a car with measles ".....etc
So most of the latter above is in regards to AI and not intelligence.
1} common sense, ---basis for smart decission making ---
2} intelligence, ---combination of common sense and intelligent/smart decission making---
3} AI --smart/intelligent programming---
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@3RU7AL
"common sense" is rarely if ever a benchmark for "good decision making"
Intelligence vs common sense is not addressed here below
Common sense is not rare, and is commonly used on daily basis by most humans via in complement to intelligent/smart choices/decissions, so as not make a jack-ass of themselves See Jack-ass movies. LINK
..." Common sense crucial to AI programs....
... Common sense is the knowledge that all humans have. Such knowledge is
unspoken and unwritten – we take it for granted. We acquire it
imperceptibly from the day we are born. For example, “animals don’t
drive cars” or “my mother is older than me”. This knowledge is often
used by human experts even when solving very narrow, domain-specific
tasks. This common-sense knowledge is something that we learn through
experience and curiosity without even being aware of it. We also acquire
a great deal of it in our lifetimes. "...
....AI systems do not have common sense knowledge and acquiring it has been
seen as important since their beginning. Furthermore, from all the
efforts made over many years, it’s become evident that building common
sense reasoning systems is a work-intensive and sometimes costly task.
In this paper, I show why common sense reasoning is so important, and
describe some approaches that have been used to build these systems.
These approaches have enabled common sense reasoning tasks to be used as
add-ons to AI client programs – such as Chatbots.....
...One of the founding fathers of AI, John McCarthy, was amongst the first
to realize its importance. He wrote a paper that was the first to
propose common sense reasoning through a hypothetical program called Advice Taker in 1959. This paper only described a specification for what a common-sense
program should do. However, it soon became apparent that there was a
need for working common sense knowledge programs to assist decision
making in AI expert systems. These systems represented the first
commercial boom period for AI, so common sense knowledge became seen as
an essential adjunct for their success.
....The reason why common sense reasoning was seen as important was that many of these systems were very competent at problem-solving,
but they were also brittle, because, they often gave meaningless
answers when trying to reason with unusual problem data. For instance,
as I show later, a medical diagnostic expert system didn’t realize that
it was given car data when it diagnosed a car with measles ".....etc
So most of the latter above is in regards to AI and not intelligence.
1} common sense, ---basis for smart decission making ---
2} intelligence, ---combination of common sense and intelligent/smart decission making---
3} AI --smart/intelligent programming---
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@3RU7AL
those who act only for the promise of reward (heaven) are mercenaries
Praise { ego } and competition { ego }
those who act only out of fear of punishment (hell) are slaves
Blame { ego } and desire to feel competent, that, may not come often enough...?.....
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@oromagi
Foundation Series
1} Yeah classic favorite trilogy, and I read the next two or three that continued the series and he authored. After he died, a couple of other more authors { Baer? } another dude tried to carry on, but those books were quite boring.
2} Roger Zelazny"s Nine Princes of Amber and Jack of Shadows were also favorites of mine, as well as,
3} some of Phillip Hose Farmers ..'To Our Scattered Bodies Go '..which led to the Riverboat series,
4} the Piers Anthony triology.
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@3RU7AL
how do you specifically propose we disentangle "logic" from "reason"
Logic = algorithm ---ergo programmed calculations--- via linear set or possible branching set of processes, that may, or may not have feedback mechanisms to reference what may exist outside of the algorithm programming, before a final resultant conclusion is acquired.
Reason = logic and common sense ergo, a potential for a more wholistic consideration that is beyond the linear or branching processes of an algorithm aka complex biologic consciousness, that, may ask self-referencing questions, that may consider the shared commonalities of what it means to a living being with feelings, that, are resultants of all five or more senses exist in synergetic combinations.
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@3RU7AL
what we need is an explicit definition of "god"
Done that countless times in last 30 years
Universe/God are synonyms, i.e. finite, occupied space God/Universe
and an explicit definition of "exist"
Three primary kinds of existence and all that exists falls into one of these three catagories { simple }:
1} eternally existent, Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts are concepts of Space, Time, God, Dogs etc
--------------------conceptual line-of-demarcation----------------------------------------
2} eternally existent, macro infinite, and truly non-occupied space, that, emmbraces/surrounds, the following,
3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God,
....3a} Spirit-2, physical reality aka observed { quantised and quantified } time that, has sine-wave /\/\/ patterning associated with most if not all fermionic matter and bosonic force particles of Universe/God,
...3b} eternally existent, Spirit-3, metaphysical Gravity [ mass-attraction aka space contraction },
...3c} eternally existent, Spirit-4, meta-physical Dark Energy { cosmological constant of accelerating space expansion }
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@n8nrgim
* I * = two hemi-spheres wit corpous callsom as the intermediary between those two
1} Absolute truth
2} Relative truth, and,
3} False narrative.
--*-- = spinal chord with 31 bilateral { left and right ] spinal nerves
--*--
--*--
--*--
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etc.......
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Double R....My friend Julian and I went to Atlantic City NJ one time (not exactly hillbilly country).....
Martin Luther King went north to Chicago suburb { Cicero? } when asked to lead civil-rights protest. I lived in a Chicago suburb at the time, and remmember the photos{?} of people holding bricks and they threw at protesters.
Dr King stated afterwords that, ..' people in the south need to come to the north, to learn how to hate '....
Mayor of Chicago was Democrat Richard j Daley
..." Richard Joseph Daley was an American politician who served as the
Mayor of Chicago from 1955 and the chairman of the Cook County
Democratic Party Central Committee from 1953 until his death. He has
been called "the last of the big city bosses" who controlled and
mobilized American cities "..
That is until Trumpet began tooting his narrcistic horn in politics. 60 million strong in 2017. This two years after my original end-date-for humanity 2015.
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@3RU7AL
truth is defined as "in accordance with facts"
Truth = what exists without empirical evidence.
Fact = confirmation of what exists via empirical evidence.
and or logical-necessity
Yes, 3Ru, we sometimes feel a neccessity to make a decision based on belief, and/or logic and common sense, however, as DR made clear, belief may or may not be truth, and same goes for our logic and common sense. Ex, we see auto rolling along and the hub-caps of wheels appear to be turning in the opposites direction and this defies common sense.
Yet, via empirical evidence or deeper thought we come to understand why we have the illusion of hub-cap turning in opposite direction of the wheels spin direction.
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@Basti123
Should we blame the script writers for what happens to us in our life?
1] no praise or blame, yet we should give credit where credit is due,
2} we should seek out and find error, so as to correct the error learning/teaching and for future avoidance such or similar errors,
3} destiny is cause effect resultant, and tho we may find the cause { action }, effect { reaction }, the resultant{s] may be many ergo, a branching out of many new actions, reactions and branching outward of another bifurcation and all causes for many new causes and effects etc, eternally ---with one possible exception, and that is maximal entropic {seeming random chaos } ultra-long wave { photo frequency } heat death of Universe, when, we may have a reset of the finite, occupied space Universe, back to an orderly { equilibrious } and initiating set anew/WOW!----,
4} Question: is a truly new emergence possible? Not to confuse this emergence with the finite, occupied space Universe reset, then we can say no, to possible truly new emergence this or that i.e. there exist a finite set of cosmic { eternal } principles. Ex there never has and never can be, a geometry of space, that, has more than five regular/symmetrical, and convex, polyhedra of Universe.
5} just as occupied space Universe has limit, so do does Meta-space truths, of which, there is finite set of absolute truths, and we can refer to this finite set as integrity, integrity of the whole, systemic and structural integrity cannot be associated with infinite { as to space }, rather only with eternal { as to time }.
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@zedvictor4
@Double_R
Truth = what exists without empirical evidence.
Fact = confirmation of what exists via empirical evidence.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Absolute truth = eternally true everywhere and everywhen
Relative truth = what exists in some locations and not others.
False narrative = combination of truth with lies to mislead/mis-direct.
The first, trinary sub-catagory of Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego { i } is:
....1} absolute truths,
.....2) relative truths, and,
......3} false narratives
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Thiest = God created Universe
Athiest = God and Universe are synonyms at worst, or is that, at best?
God/Universe = eternally existent, Cosmic Trinary and Primary Set:
...1} eternally existent meta-space { Spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts and ego,
------------abstract conceptual line-of-demarcation------------------
....2} eternally existent, macro-infinite, non-occupied space, that, embraces/surrounds the following,
.....3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { Spirit-2-fermions and bosons, Spirit-3-Gravity and Spirit-4-Dark Energy }.
Simple? Yes.
Wholistically complete? Yes.
None have, or ever will offer any logical common sense, that, invalidates or adds to the above trinary set.
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@FLRW
Einstein.....' my education has been the biggest impediment to my learning '....
or was it ....“The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education”.....
‘’It is nothing short of a miracle that modern methods of
instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of
inquiry.’’
’I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious.’’
desire to arrive finally at logically connected concepts is the
emotional basis of a vague play with basic ideas. . . . . this
combinatory or associative play seems to be the essential feature in
productive thought.”
His son, Albert Einstein Jr. wrote: ”[Einstein] was . . . considered
backward by his teachers. He told me that his teachers reported to his
father that he was mentally slow, unsociable and adrift forever in his
foolish dreams.”
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Torus has three kinds of curvature:
...1} positive gaussian outer ( ) geodesic ergo Gravity, LINK
..........scroll mid page to see this one....
...3} negative gaussian inner )( geodesic ergo Dark Energy LINK
And here below, I show the sine-wave{s} of physical reality being released back inside-the-tube of our space-time tori
.....1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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----abstract central inside-the-tube great circle--- See Fullers non-redundant primary 73 great circles LINK--
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-^^^^^^^^^^^^^ entropic expansion^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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-^^^^^^^^^^^^^ entropic expansion^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-..note: here below is the inner negative geodesic of Dark
Energy, receiving burst from peak of dominant Gravity
amplitude....
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0~~~~~~~~~~~3p~~~~~~~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~~~~~~~12~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~15~~~~~~~Observable Time inside
.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
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How is it, that Gravity would ever come to become so dominant to cause the next WOW! ---Big Bang-- to occur?
I see I may have the answer from this Structure of Graviton-Darkon thread I started.
The answer may be, that as our observed physical reality ---inside the tube sine-wave { associated with physical reality } on ultra-large/macro scale of overlapping and interfering space-time tori, wherein, all of tori's
sine-wave{s} are moving toward the outer, positive geodesic surface
set of nodal events ---referred to as Gravity--- i.e. the sine-wave's
of reality is going to dissipate into Gravity and full scale, ergo,
......Gravity becomes a temporary ---and by this we may mean ultra-brief { so for example life time of a meson or virtual particle kind of short time}----.
Everybody
got above that ok? Good, as it is one way to see how Fullers next WOW!
may occur. To be clear tho, Gravity is always dominant ---partly
because its always outer, positive geodesic perimeter of finite,
occupied space Universe, pulling back in---, and one Gravity takes that
ultra-long wave hit of photon, it briefly goes WOW!.
So visually, below is the recent version of four levels, wherein I show this inside-the-tube sine-wave { 0, 3p, 6, 9 etc )
becoming the ultra long wave { flat lining heat death of physical reality Universe } and moving closer towards Gravity, wherein we see 0, 3p, 6, 9, etc are now a minminal variation to each other ---ergo ultra-long wave--- in sine-wave high and low peaks aka
amplitude.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
0~~~~~~~~~~~3p~~~~~~~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~~~~~~~12~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~15~~~~~~~Observable Time inside
-...note: here above see numerical, ultra-long wave photon as heat
death of physical reality about to dissiapate into Gravity....
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-..note: here below is the inner negative geodesic of Dark
Energy, about to begin receiving burst from peak of dominant Gravity
amplitude....
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.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
Those
who still do not grasp these four lines as a four lateral great circles
{ quasi-great circle nodal events }. Gravity feeds to Dark Energy via
trajectory as surface of torus, through the flat location, onward
curving around to become negative geodesic space of Dark Energy, that.
dissipates on inner curve that propogates forward the expansion of
Universe and forward in observed the physical reality returns back --via
invagination--- and then outward to a flat location, and onward as
Gravitational space, only to invaginate, --ever so briefly and virtual
particles, that, can be come real if the space-time tori are intereing
to cause that to happen. Ok?
I hope others can begin to a see a little of what i'm seeing and speculating upon. Our physical reality sine-wave{s} ---of the ultra-large myriad of overlapping and interfering space-time tori----- are being pushed by Dark Energy to the point of heat death { one ultra-long ultra thin photon , that, dissibpates into Gravity as huge influx, that, Gravity reaches a peak of dominant force phenomena, and sends it around to the inner geodesics{s} of Dark Energy, and we reemerge { WOW/BB },to a state of maximum order, and begin our entropic journey again, and again, and again.
What am I missing?
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@oromagi
DR......The only thing that matters in conversation is that the two people speaking understand what the other is trying to say. If I have explained to you what I mean when I use a specific term then that's all you need to understand my point.
I agree with DR in the above. If we agree on a common definition for a word ex one { 1 }, then we can move on the the next word or number 1 + 1 = a set of of 2 { aka 1....1.
Numbers and math{ counting } preceded written words.
Abacus was first computing technology.
Words
...ebuc....
Words
abound,
And
then there are,
So
many more concepts,
Than
there are words.
Words
within,
There
exists so much more meaning,
Than
there are concepts,
Within
the lanquage of words.
Words
without,
So
many words,
Lacking
depth of expression,
As
felt in our soul.
Words
of intellect,
The
philosophers tool,
Spinning
our thoughts and our thinking,
While
orbiting all truths.
Words
of observation,
Such
varied perceptions,
From
similar sensoral experiences,
Of
our known reality.
Words
upon words,
Baffles
the mind,
Inside-outs
our consiousness,
And
fulfills our needs.
Words
of war,
Words
of peace,
Words
have power,
Words
help us release.
Words
to our music,
Words
come in our sleep,
Words
all around us,
Words
make us weep.
Words
have a function,
Words
guide us the way,
Words
fill our minds,
Words
give us our say.
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...." By analyzing the MRIs of 949 people aged 8 to 22, scientists at the
University of Pennsylvania found that male brains have more connections within each hemisphere, while female brains are more interconnected between hemispheres. "...
.....After grouping the image by sex
and inspecting the differences between the two aggregate “male” and
“female” pictures, the researchers found that in men, fiber pathways run
back and forth within each hemisphere, while in women they tend to
zig-zag between the left, or “logical,” and right, or “creative,” sides
of the brain.
......Because female
brains seem to have a stronger connections between their logical and
intuitive parts, “when women are asked to do particularly hard tasks,
they might engage very different parts of the brain,” said Ragini Verma,
an associate professor of radiology at the University of Pennsylvania
and one of the authors of the report. “Men might over-engage just one
part of the brain.”...
So recall in 30's 40's when women were called broads, well was it because they were more broad minded? Ha Ha. Will have to research that slang for women.
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@zedvictor4
Road cycling still very important for mind and body though.
I have three friends who like to do that. Never own bike since childhood, then thought I would try it out, so bought $69. bike at walmart --this is some 15 years or more ago---, and I rode it to nearby store, and I was so use to walking, that I walked home and forgot it for three days, duhh, so drive over there and of course its long gone.
So not a bicylist type nor jogger type --if when I was younger---, but always been a walker.
..." Elizabeth Plank at Mic took to the bike paths of New York City to investigate the “huge and
under-reported” gender gap in, of all things, bicycle-riding. Turns out
way more men ride bikes than women: “In the U.S., 1 woman for every 3 men gets around on a bicycle,” Plank writes. “In London, 77% of bike trips are taken by men and only 5% of women identify as frequent cyclists.”
.....This is a gender gap that actually surprised me.".....
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@zedvictor4
Well researched.
Not sure which post your refering to but thanks Zed. I do try to put out the effort, and make the time to do so. I work regular 40 hrs a week and for a short two or so months, I had to move out of RV back into the older house/shack, and,
all of my days off were long 4 days tearing off and putting on a new roof over bedroom,
tearing off skirying and digging out 12 wheel barrow of dirt from under my bathroom so i could see why bathtub is leaning to one side, and if it was about fall through the floor, then jacking and supporting it,
then back to 25' RV to get off blocks and all dissconnected and removal of the rabbit wire and 2x4 structure I built to protect roof from falling branches, finally sold for $2000. ---what I paid 2 years ago--, and now saving on not having electric bill for the meter YAY!,
so still have to do more construction under laundry that has rotting band board and bottom plates,
and doubt if I will ever get to the sloping living room floor where the joist are near or sitting on ground in some places.
Then I thought I might have aquried tetanus ---lot of anxiety there--- and got an ten year ovedue vaccine for it,
and in middle of working under house, an ambulance arrives three seperate times to take my wife --shes in the new house in front--- to the E.R for dehyedration, then her asthma, and then her high blood pressure. My body, mind have been way overworked and stressed out. Yesterday was on 2nd day off where I felt there was not anything I really needed to do, so YAY!
Its all good except when its bad. Yes?
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@zedvictor4
Though getting 8 billion people to run with common sense has always been a tall order. Hasn't it ebuc?
Yes it is, however, are we not more of a globally interirelated community then any time in humanities past? Even Russsia is allowing grain exports out of Ukraine for common sense.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are thriving, only 77years after nuclear devastation....Not really long term even. Is it ebuc?
That does not change the power and potential annihilation of humanity from exist hydrogen bombs. Again a nuclear war between pakistan and india would produce so much dust into the atmosphere the sunlight not reaching the Earth, would be enough to kill off humanity.
As I said, just short term scary.
Yeah, many of us went through this 60's, 70's 80's and finally reduced the chances of such threat posed by accidents that could occur from bommbers in the sky 24 hrs a day. Now its just nuclear submarines 24hr a day.
Was or wasn't corona virus a product of manipulated nature....Sort of semi-optional?.....Not sure about this one. What about you ebuc?
I dont know about any of these viruses orgins. Ex HIV etc. Fred Hoyle { Big Bang fame } believe virus were comging to Earth from passing comets, metorites etc and stay in higher atmosphere until cause them to downdraft to Earth
Contraception good
Birth control comes in many more ways than we realize to address the super-strong sex drive, without having to resort to, not having sex. YIKES!
Yeah, who does want Keeping people alive well into senility and decrepitude bad....Do you agree ebuc?
I think socialized medicine already puts more limits medical care depending on the persons age, if not also conscious abilities to care for self.
Went and visited Gran today, she sat in her chair staring into space and wet herself.......Bless her.
Yes bless all the grandmas, grandpa's etc, however, the blessing for humanity has yet to be introduced in any significant way globally.
The only way I see such a unification to cause humanity to change the operational systems we have in place, is that of set of people who have the power to institute the policies needed to save us from ourselves. This means a change of lifestyle and standards of living.
Easier for camel to go through eye of a needle than people of wealth to reduce the living standards.
Bucky Fuller liked to say,---in 30's 40's 50s 60's 70's 80's--- we have whole humanity of unrealized billionaires, if we melted all of the war ships, and used the materials to make high tech livingdry items ex light-weight effecient homes etc. As one example of unify to live instead divide and stay in conquering mode.
Universe divides into its many parts to exist, yet it does have mass-attractive Gravity { contractive/associative space } that unifies and creates galaxies and stars.
And Gravity's geometrically, diametric opposite is Dark Energy { dissasociative space }.
Humans need to dissasociate from war and associate as as living, without burning the house we live in to the ground. We are literally burning the forests, warming the oceans and atmosphere, long before sol becomes a red giant. How stupid is that, Zed?
So yes you are correct, humans are nature, and resultants of our nature will reduce the population in coming years. My original calculations gave a resultant of 2015 as the end-date-for-humanity. I was obviously incorrect by at least 7 years.
The synergetic resultants of biologic life on Earth ---the GAIA hypothesis --- is so very complex to be able to reach a reliable prognostication for its future end-date-on-Earth.
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..." We — Stuart Kauffman, Andrew Liddle, Lee Smolin and I — are putting an
end to this. By reformulating cosmological physics to include biological
systems, we have developed a common currency with which their
respective systems can be counted and compared. This ‘currency’ allows
us to quantify the value of biologicals systems when set against the
character cast of cosmology: galaxies, dark energy and black holes. "....
.....Until about 20 years ago, it was thought that black holes, particularly
the supermassive black holes found at the centres of galaxies, were the
dominant contribution to the entropy and possible states of the
universe. Using a formula discovered by Jakob Bekenstein and Stephen
Hawking, Roger Penrose showed that they contribute a staggering
10^(10^101) possible states of the Universe. [The number 10^101 means a
one followed by 101 zeros, and is already a number bigger than the
number of particles within our entire observable Universe.
....But we are
talking about a one followed by 10^101 zeroes!] But even that is dwarfed
by the discovery of dark energy, the putative cause of the Universe’s
present acceleration. This contributes 10^(10^124) to the count of
possible states of the universe. This is the biggest number ever
encountered in the natural world. "....
....Life innovates, creates new niches and possibilities, and interactions,
in ways that cannot be predicted in advance. Unlike in physics, in
biology, the space of possibilities is forever unpredictably expanding.
.....The combinations of just six elements make up most biological
molecules (Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulphur,
usually known as CHNOPS). We took these chemical elements as the
constituents of the complex system we were modelling. Then we used the
TAP equations to simulate the number of possible configuration states of
the biosphere as it evolved. By the time of the first RNA molecules,
3.5 billion years ago, the number of possible states that the biosphere
could take was: 10^(10^237)
......This is a staggering finding. Recall
that the total number of possible states of the universe today is only 10^(10^124). This means that life already surpassed the universe in
complexity already 3.5 billion years ago, in the RNA world. As
cosmologists we could never, in a billion years, have anticipated that
such a number would stem from the evolution of living organisms. It took
us three years of calculations, endlessly revising and double-checking
our mathematical models, before we can now support the numbers we
present today.
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@Reece101
First it was about holy texts, then poetry, now it’s about language being older than writing.
b Fuller states that number language precedes written language by thousands of years.
..."What came first — maths or written language?
....Alex Bellos, author of Alex’s Adventures in Numberland — Dispatches from the Wonderful World of Mathematics, speaks to DNA on the world of numbers.
....Alex Bellos, author of Alex’s Adventures in Numberland — Dispatches from the Wonderful World of Mathematics, speaks to DNA on the world of numbers.
.... What I find amusing is that these number symbols were the first examples
in western culture of a script. So it is perfectly fair to say that
written language, and therefore literature, was a consequence of
numbers. Books are here because of maths! "..
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@sadolite
You put a link and then somehow make it a Republican Democrat thing. Those are not you own words either. No one talks like that.
False. Should we expect less from you Sad?
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@secularmerlin
..." We — Stuart Kauffman, Andrew Liddle, Lee Smolin and I — are putting an
end to this. By reformulating cosmological physics to include biological
systems, we have developed a common currency with which their
respective systems can be counted and compared. This ‘currency’ allows
us to quantify the value of biologicals systems when set against the
character cast of cosmology: galaxies, dark energy and black holes. "....
.....Until about 20 years ago, it was thought that black holes, particularly
the supermassive black holes found at the centres of galaxies, were the
dominant contribution to the entropy and possible states of the
universe. Using a formula discovered by Jakob Bekenstein and Stephen
Hawking, Roger Penrose showed that they contribute a staggering
10^(10^101) possible states of the Universe. [The number 10^101 means a
one followed by 101 zeros, and is already a number bigger than the
number of particles within our entire observable Universe.
....But we are
talking about a one followed by 10^101 zeroes!] But even that is dwarfed
by the discovery of dark energy, the putative cause of the Universe’s
present acceleration. This contributes 10^(10^124) to the count of
possible states of the universe. This is the biggest number ever
encountered in the natural world. "....
....Life innovates, creates new niches and possibilities, and interactions,
in ways that cannot be predicted in advance. Unlike in physics, in
biology, the space of possibilities is forever unpredictably expanding.
.....The combinations of just six elements make up most biological
molecules (Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulphur,
usually known as CHNOPS). We took these chemical elements as the
constituents of the complex system we were modelling. Then we used the
TAP equations to simulate the number of possible configuration states of
the biosphere as it evolved. By the time of the first RNA molecules,
3.5 billion years ago, the number of possible states that the biosphere
could take was: 10^(10^237)
......This is a staggering finding. Recall that the total number of possible states of the universe today is only 10^(10^124). This means that life already surpassed the universe in complexity already 3.5 billion years ago, in the RNA world. As cosmologists we could never, in a billion years, have anticipated that such a number would stem from the evolution of living organisms. It took us three years of calculations, endlessly revising and double-checking our mathematical models, before we can now support the numbers we present today.
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@sadolite
What do "YOU" think a woman is? Your own words, no google links, strait from your own brain.
Womb-man. Howveer some women born without a uterus ergo,
we then revert to X x { compatcted Barr Body }, wherein something is not functioning correctly in one of those two chromosomes, and,
after that, we revert to what whats-their-name points out, --few months back--- larger gamete aka the egg (O) not the sperm ~~~>
Woman ----or hermoprhodite--- is most complex entity of Universe, barring scenarios of two or more women or woman and man etc.
See 2nd post in this LINK to more complex woman
Democrats { broad minded } are more complex than the narrow-minded Republicans.
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@3RU7AL
@Reece101
it sounds like a conversation you should have with 3RU7AL who brought it up.
Oh sorry, I forgot who introduced word holy into this thread. I believe Universe/God are synonyms ergo I believe in my definition of God as an eternally self-regenerative God/Universe.
And there is R. Penrose Conformal Cyclic Universe for those who want to go off on the words cyclic meanings of words.
Uni = 1, and,
verse = set words.
...." The suffix –VERSE (Latin, “to turn”) attaches to a number of key words
with interesting results for comparison. Among these words are OBVERSE
(“turn toward”), REVERSE (“turn back”), CONVERSE (“turn with”), INVERSE
(“turn inside out”), UNIVERSE (“turned into one”), DIVERSE (“turn
separately”), AVERSE (“turn away”), and PERVERSE (“turn the wrong way”).
You, too, can make a sentence using these words! In this universe, I
would like to converse with diverse readers; or, in reverse, I might
wish to be subversive or be averse and wish to do the inverse or the
obverse with the perverse. '...
To turn would lead me to Arthur Youngs operating system of Universe his Relflexive Universe, where the turn is a key part of his scenarios.
Verse > to turn > V i.e. and invagination, that, goes in and then back out.
Verse also as ...' poetry and chorus of rythmic sequence etc '....
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@Greyparrot
Sorry,
OGP, you just proved origami incorrect by saying the above, eh? Way to go OGP.
this thread is all about how misinformation uniquely applies to Republicans. So anyone caught in a lie will henceforth be rightly called a Republican.
More dominant---75% vs 45%--- and serious --Iraq war {thanks to Cheney and dumbass Bush Jr. with Republicans.
But there was also Gulf of Tonkin { Lyndon Johnson } that began Vietnam war. .."The event led the U.S. to believe that North Vietnam was targeting its intelligence-gathering mission, and therefore the Turner Joy was sent to reinforce the Maddox. From the point of view of the Maddox, the attack had been unprovoked, though North Vietnam was under the impression that the Maddox had been involved in the raids on Hon Me and Hon Ngu islands. "..
Even Peyton Manning who is registered as republican, which may also be misinformation according to the OP. Omaha!
..." Manning didn't support Trump
publicly at his Super Bowl 50 press conference. He did, however,
acknowledge the two have played golf before and that Trump was
"extremely nice" during their limited time together. Donald Trump Jr. posted a picture with Manning over the summer at the Neshoba County Fair with his father's "...
....regarding Eli manning.... "It is well documented that the Manning family is quite religious. But
while it is known that his older brother–also famous quarterback–Peyton
Manning is a devout Christian, Eli doesn't seem to be carrying that
torch–or maybe he is just more quiet about it.
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@zedvictor4
Might suggest a certain asexual deity
So in conclusion, no human self-pregnancies, --virgin birth-- but apparrently in a rabbit{?}, Dam wabbits says Elmer Fudd :--))
..." hermaphroditism, the condition of having both male and female reproductive organs. "....
...." However you sort it out, this is a pretty exclusive group — something
like one person in 5,000 is different enough from the standard model to
be considered intersex. "....
..." Abstract. Gonadal
distribution in 409 cases of human true hermaphroditism is reviewed. An
ovary was found on the left side of the body in 62.8% of the cases and
the testis on the right side in 59.5%. The ovotestis is the most common
gonad of the true hermaphrodite; amongst 806 gonads in 406 cases it was
found in 44.3%. ".....
List of intersex people, some of which well known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intersex_people
..."Background: There are 11 reported cases of pregnancy in true hermaphrodites, but none with advanced genetic testing.
All known fetuses have been male. Case: A true hermaphrodite with a
spontaneous pregnancy prenatally known to have a remaining portion of a
right ovotestis, delivered a male neonate "...
Case: A true hermaphrodite with a spontaneous pregnancy prenatally known
to have a remaining portion of a right ovotestis, delivered a male
neonate. The mother has a 46, XX karyotype with polymerase chain
reaction demonstrating low levels of the Yq12 sequence. Postpartum
androgen levels were normal.
Conclusion: Partial removal of testicular tissue may enhance fertility in
hermaphrodites, and there may be a genetic basis for the progeny to be
male. "....
...."The person may have XX chromosomes, XY chromosomes, or both.
The external genitals may be ambiguous or may appear to be female or
male. This condition used to be called true hermaphroditism. "...
..."......pregnancies of true hermaphrodites and self-fertilization in
hermaphrodite mammals that have been published in the last 40 years. The
number of hermaphrodite pregnants reported in the literature since 1975
was 14, the number of pregnancies was 26 and the number of healthy born
babies was 20. All of the babies that were born were male.
........The
pregnancy developed following gonadectomy in seven cases (nine
pregnancies). In some cases, either gonadectomy was not performed at all
or it was performed after pregnancy (eight cases, 17 pregnancies).
.......The
karyotype was 46,XX in four of these eight cases that became pregnant
despite in situ ovotestis while it was 46,XX/46,XY in the other four
cases (chimera). In the literature, pregnancy cases that developed
through self-fertilization were not reported in humans. However,
autofertilization was detected in mammalian hermaphrodites such as
domestic rabbit. "....
...." One especially unusual type of intersex person is known as a chimera,
which results when male and female embryos meld together genetically to
form one individual — and if you think you’ve got identity issues in
your garden-variety life, try coming to terms with that. "...
..." Doctors called in to scrutinize the hanging chad, as it were, found Levi
had a mix of sexual equipment but decided he was mostly male. His
ballot was counted and the Whigs won by one vote. On further examination
some days later, though, it was discovered that Levi had been
menstruating for years and sported a set of “well developed mammae”
which the doctors had somehow missed the first time around. ".....
...." The only way I can imagine self-fertilization happening in a human — and
I’m telling you, this one’s a reach — is in a chimerical individual,
formed of two embryos that fused. Would the child of such a person be a
clone? Of course not, nudnik. First, you’d have to duplicate the
genetics of an individual whose makeup was, by definition, an
irreproducible accident.
......Second, the two fused embryos would be
fraternal twins (one’s male and one’s female, right?) and thus have
different genes.
.....Third, the chromosome-level mechanics of sexual
reproduction (surely you remember that fascinating discussion of meiosis
from sophomore biology) would ensure that the genetic deck got a good
honest shuffle. So while the child of an autofertilizing hermaphrodite
would certainly be a close relative of its parent, it’d be a far cry
from a xerox copy. }...
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@Greyparrot
Guess we are all Republicans in this thread.
No Orange-Gray-Parrot, it only looks that way because of your spamming the thread with Omaha posts,
after post,
after post,
after post,
after post,
after post,
after post,
after post,
after post.............
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@Reece101
It would have addressed 3RU7AL talking about deep emotional meaningfulness. Also where we first started off:
Ok gotcha. Sorry, my bad. Yeah complex algebraic, etc type complex formula go over common peoples ---you, me and 3Ru--- heads.
I still believe the use of word holy needs to incorporate in its definition, a reference to ecological based life support environments like rare Earth.
Even tho humans with their access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego, may eventually be their own demise, I still think they they a related to holy aspect of Universe.
Fuller talks about how God created humans t as an experiment, to see if mind accessing creatures could exist in Universe, without destroying the integrity of Universe.
Holy needs to be wholistic --of cosmic consideration--- in its definnition. Yes? No?
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@zedvictor4
A super idea without a doubt. Though I think that a voluntarily implemented re-education of the entire human race isn't on the cards any time soon.
A voluntary controlled reduction of human population is best. Dont you agree Zed?
I would suggest that a major catastrophe is currently the best option.
Huh? "Option" is something humans choose to do, not what is done to us by nature. Dont you agree Zed?
Though maybe techno boffins can come up with some subliminal thing that turns the whole planet gay.?
Wouldnt the better birth control options be better, since most humans prefer sex with opposite sex? Dont agree Zed?
Look how much flack humans are giving about a covid vaccine. I think a genetic injection ---or in morning coffee--- wouldnt go over to well with the anti-vaxers not to mention many other groups.
Are nukes too messy in the long term.
Yes Zed, hydrogen bomb{s] annihilation is to messy and scary in short or long run. That is an option only a mad-human-race would choose, --ex mad cause they are all now gay--- tho, as Ive been clear over the years, it may only take one mad leader to start that hydrogen bomb annihilation set of dominoes.
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@Reece101
The last link I posted is above, and explains with context why prim number 47 may be cause of all seeming randomness of Universe, as put forward by B Fuller, not me.
You may mean the Synergetics section identifier 1238.51, that i did not install as a link. It was autmated link so maybe the bot your refering to . I dunno.
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@Reece101
One simple example is geometry.
I would argue that what makes it holy is not just that it expresses a cosmic principle or cosmic physical law, but that it expresses a principle or law that is relevant to biological life of humans and the ecological systems that support and sustains that wholistic set of humans and ecology.
This may have been what the GAIA concept was all about., tho it is not necessarily a related to a cosmic physical law or principle.
Holy = wholistic set of interrelating phenomena that support the integrity of Universe and the GAIA hypothesis for individual planets, that may be expressed matehmatically, yet lack some consideration of Spirit-1, 2, 3 or 4.
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@3RU7AL
obstruction of an official proceeding
At USA federal capital building where people feared for their lives and people where chanting hang Mike Pence and others saying Trumpet invited us here.
is the crime that resulted in an actual conviction
People with guns and others who ransacked capital building caused harm via their vilolent actions to stop if not overturn a valid election, that, was supported by Trumpet and various federal and state authoriites.
Playing dumb to all of this above just makes you look like you support Trumpet and those nutcases following his lead just makes you look lame eRu, and I know your not that lame. Or maybe i'm incorrect. Every since covid you have gone a little haywire.
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@3RU7AL
do you believe this will lead to everyone speaking a single unified language that never changes ?
This was the point of dictionaries, to some degree, to find common ground on what we think and ways to communicate those thoughts clearly.
I started to watch that movie with Mel Gibson but never finnished.
Mohammad unified varied tribes who were fighting each other, under a common god. History has many cases of chaos and disorder, being unified by a violent leader. Alexander the Great, Tito, USSR, etc.
Phonetics led to English and English seems to be common ground, good or bad. Pictographs/iconics made a comback with their symbolisms in autos for air, winshield wipers etc back in 90's. A result of digital age?
A picture speaks a thousand words, but phonetics > English has led more words than pictures, to define more varied concepts. Many people want a picture to help them to understand what may be presented in complex matematical notation. Geometry is more visual than algebra.
Feynman diagrams were a resultant of Feyman simplying for self and others what little we did know at the time about what is going on in atomic world.
I dont believe humanity will survive on Earth with this many nuclear weapons nor without a global unified goal to survive and prosper via and ecology that is viable to sustain us.
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@zedvictor4
Well, I suppose that a mass depopulation event would be good for all sorts of reasons.
A voluntary controlled reduction of human population is best. Dont you agree Zed?
Were burning the ecological house to provide energy to live and there are potentially dire consequences for actions. And that does not even include the large amount of hydrogen bombs around the world.
A little spark starts whole forest fires. What kind of spark does it take to start nuclear annilahation? This is why M.A.Destruction was addressed by humanity in the 80's - 90's. To lessen chance of a spark igniting global catastrophe. I llived through those times.
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@Reece101
Was the direct reply to both lemming and I random too? Or did you want something to preach about?
There is only order, ergo, truly and technically, there exist no random thoughts, only the great illusion of random.
I was reading some stuff of Lemmings, and must have been something I read that led to my PINGing him also.
You because you created the topic #1.
There exists only cause, effect and resultants.
One of the set of many semi-cosmic threes, or subcatagories of the great Cosmic Trinary Set. Its structural threeness all the way to the bottom of well of Cosmic Turtles.
Arthur Youngs four lines ---similar to my four--- led him to the Cosmic 7-ness ---- LINK Reflexive Unvierse--- via geometry of Meaning.
Fullers most significant numbers ---or so I think-- are 6 and 24, however, we cannot discount his discovery of the 7 primary sets four axis sets of 1}the 4-fold Vector Equilibrium { 3, 4, 6 and 12 total 25 primary great circles } and the 5-fold set of three axis sets { 6, 10 and 15 total as 31 } ergo 25 + 31 = 56. However, since the VE contractive torques in two directions, and 5-fold icosahedron is the first subset resultant of the VE contraction, we have 31 left-skew and right-skew sets of the 5-fold 31 great circles. That means add 31 to the 56 and that = 87, however, 14 of these are redundantly congruent with others, ergo, we may say that, 83 minus the 14 = 73 primary great circles of Universe. See LINK and it is 2nd Synergetic bookmarks in my menu, after Synergetics contents bookmark. :--)
So the four axis sets plus the three axis sets totals 7 primary axis sets of Universe ---at least with these two aforementioned, convex polyhedra above----.
So much as I always like to go to 6, and 24, or 8, or 4 or 5 and 10 etc. I think the 7 covers so much of broad spectrum adn were back to Arthur Young.
Is there a number responsible for randomeness? Consider first 1, the 2 as follows below to see how 47 may be responsible for all randomness of Universe, if such can exist.
1}
1238.21 LINK ...." Accepting the concept that
one is not a prime number, we have 14 primes__2, 3, 5,
7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37,
41, 43__which primacy will accommodate all the 14 unique
structural faceting of all the
crystallography, all the biological cell structuring,
and all bubble agglomerating: the 14
facets being the polar facets of the seven and only
seven axes of symmetry of Universe,
which are the 3-, 4-, 6-, 12-great circles of the vector
equilibrium and the 6-, 10-, 15-great
circles of the icosahedron.
...." Thereafter all the prime numbers that can ever enter
into prime trigonometric computation (in contradistinction to complementary function computation)
occur below the number 45. "....
#2}
1238.51...." Scheherazade Numbers: 47: The first prime number beyond
the
trigonometric limit is 47. The number 47 may be a flying
increment to fill allspace, to fill
out the eight triangular facets of the non-allspace-filling
vector equilibrium to form the
allspace-filling first nuclear cube.
....If 47 as a factor
produces a Scheherazade Number with
mirrors, it may account not only for all the specks
of dust in the Universe but for all the
changes of cosmic restlessness, accounting the convergent-divergent next event, which
unbalances the even and rational whole numbers.
...If 47
as a factor does not produce a
Scheherazade Number with mirrors, it may explain that
there can be no recurring limit
symmetries. It may be that 47 is the cosmic random element,
the agent of infinite change."..
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@Reece101
Can you quote what you reply to?
Sure, ..." If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here. ", and so I did.
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@3RU7AL
we communicate in order to identify and then negotiate these differences in perception
..." From time to time humans learn a little more about
a principle, but greater
familiarity does not change the principles themselves. As further observation becomes
more comprehensive and refined, the statement of the
principle becomes ever more
incisive and ever less frequently modified and improved. Since the principle itself is
eternally changeless, "...
We orbit truth and see it from differrent angles of viewpoint, but that does not change the truth, it only helps to better refine our words definning the truth.
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