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@sadolite
The future is always occurring and the population still rising Sad. I think you must have forgotten to drink you coffee this AM and still dreaming of a world that does not exist. ..Wake up dear, time to go to school and learn.....but I dont want to wake up......i'm engjoying my dreams........
Dream on, dream on, said the teddy bear.
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@sadolite
...." The answer to our hypothetical survey is simple: gametes are the
difference between males and females. But if you take a more holistic
point of view, it’s not as straightforward.
......Exactly
what a male and female looks like, at the end of the day, and how each
behaves (their sex roles) depends largely on the ecological theatre in which their evolutionary history has been played out. "....
male gamet --> = spermozoa ---X or y, not both--- simple ergo mass produced ex hydrogen atom is simple and most mass-produced in Universe/God
O = egg ---X only--- more complex ergo more rarefied
X x - X y = three X's for every y in Universe/God, when all is in equanimity.
(((v))) = fertilized egg that invaginates { v } to create three germ layers ---aka gastrulation----
Fishy Story
...ebuc...
There
once was sperm in a current, --> __> --> __>
Whose
tail whipped around like a turret. ~~~~~~>
It
had little mind, ---dumb ass sperm----
Perhaps
even blind, ----but nose works great----
Tho onward
it swam through the ferment. ---showing those salmon how its done---
It
reached the egg, ---knock knock--
Stuck
in its head, ---daddys home----
Now
the two are concurrent. --pregnant woman announces, yes, but i will decided for how long over next 9 months----
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@Reece101
What’s the point in blocking me if you two are going to reply and comment on my shit?
The bi-lateral party of shame. Shame women, shame pregnant women, shame all who advocate for mature decent adult considerations of a global humanity, that, is overpopulated for the operating systems we have in place.
They are the modern religious set who cast the finger of shame on all who to see a more wholistic consideration of humanities condition and the longer term direction we evoling towards
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@TheUnderdog
People may say, “It’s the female’s body
Yes, you got the primary concern under consideration, so now be considerate of those circumstance she finds herself in.
1} non-breathing human, to varying degrees, and differrent times over 9 month gestation period,
2} next, keep your nose out of her bodily business, be lile a considerate, responsible decent and mature adult who respects pregnant women rights to her personal bodily autonmy, unless she asks for your or others consent to stick you nose into her bodily business.
Can you do that? No?
Do have an addiction to pregnant womens bodies?
Are you obsessed over pregnant womens bodies?
Do you also have other compulsive behavior disorders, other than pregnant womens bodies?
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@zedvictor4
And the range of over complicated and misleading responses, clearly indicates that no one has a clue.
False Zed. My friend told me something, i.e. gave me a piece of information, a concept a scenrio ergo 'something ' in that circumstance is Meta-space mid/intellect/concept. A piece of conceptual information can be missing from a mystery. Yes, Meta-space information most often complements and occupied space event or set of events, thereof.
Clue 1} occupied space is all humans observe,
There was either: Nothing and then Something.
Seemingly do, untill we use logical common sense based on our observations and this is what the scientists of late 1800's did ergo they announced the 1st law thermodynamic conservation. Naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed one phase of ---occupied space--- existence to another.
The only event that throws peoples awry is the Big Bang. However we know so much more now than we did when Big Bang was first labeled by Fred Hoyle.
Or: Always Something.
Then along came Roger Penrose in 1965 with his nobel winning ---in 2018-- one page paper proving Einsteins.ust come close together but rather become null and void. So then along comes S Hawking along with Penrose and they show how our finite, occupied space Universe, appears from a singularity { null and void set of photonic trajectories }.
Therein lies an answer. If our finite, occupied space Universe, came from a null and void set set of photon geodesic trajectories of one, or many black hole singularities come from. They are phase transformations of the one finite, occupied space Universe.
Neither makes perfect sense.
I agree, that, null geodesic trajectories of photons aka a singularity, do not make sense as that is occupied space becoming truly non-occupied space, if, the laws of generality are followed to where they seemingly lead, ---as Penrose confirmed/validated in 65---, however, if the law of GR do not apply at some scale of existence within said black hole{s}, then, we would seemingly be missing a piece of the Meta-space mystery of how, occupied space, cannot be created nor destroyed, as these ultra-micro scales of existence.
Ive offered the answer occasionally tho few seem to grasp or care, since I offer no proofs for my conjectures, scenarios etc.
The simple answer is that a finite Universe that is full of photons, or via heat death becomes one very large and very flat singular photon dissippates into ultra-micro, Gravitational geodesic, positively curved occupied space ( ) and Dark Energy geodesic, negatively curved occupied space )( ergo
.....space(>OT<)(>OT<)space.... where space is truly non-occupied space, and,
.....space(>OT<)(>OT<)space.... where ( )( ) Gravity and Dark Energy are surface set of nodal events, and,
.....space(>OT<)(>OT<)space.... >< is dipolar invaginations from, the outer and inner set of di-polar opposites ---in 3D tori-- as surface nodal events of Gravity and Dark Energy, and,
.....space(>OT<)(>OT<)space.... OT is the resultant sine-wave of observerd { quanta } time { OT } residing inside the toroidal tube or myriad set thereof, that compose finite, occupied space Universee
Photons are associated two sine-waves /\/\/ co-operating at 90 degrees [ precessionally } to each other. Electric /\/\/and magnetic ------ ergo /--\--/--\--/ is a rough visual using text charactors and I associate all sine-waves with physical reality ergo observed { quantised } time { OT }.
Ive presented the 2D visual lattice of the 3D tori, showing how the sine-wave of physical reality { OT } can become very flat { ultra-long wave frequency } move toward either Gravitional space or Dark Energy space to merge with it and become the outer and inner, that are actually connected graviton-darkon ( )( ) and not every truly isolated from each other i.e. the are likened to that age old dipolar opposites of good and bad, light and dark etc.
Here is the asymmetrical { Hexa-god } visual Ive developed, over the years and it began in symmetrical pattern, --at bottom of page-- where it was not inside-outed as this first 2D lattice set is.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
0~~~~~~~~~~~3p~~~~~~~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~~~~~~~12~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~15~~~~~~~Observable Flat Time inside
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-...note here above we see flat { long wave } sine-wave approaching Gravity set of nodal events....
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.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
Below is the Hexa-god equanimity-of-balance ---via dipolar invagination--- version to reference the diffferrence above so we see normal
sine-wave. I actually see three possible ways this scenario may evolve :
1} sine-wave flattens as longest photonic heat death wave of Univere and moves toward Gravity,
2} sine-wave flattens as longest photonic heat death wave of Universe and moves toward Dark Energy,
3} the sine-wave peaks { amplitude } split so half dissipates into Gravity and other half dissipataes into Dark Energy.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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0..............................................6.................................................12..........................................Observable Time inside
---Bucky Fullers-------abstract great circle----central spine inside center the 3D torodial tube---------------
........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable Time inside
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.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
And here is the orginal symmetrical pattern below closely ressembled Arthur Youngs Reflexive Universe { Geometry of Meaning } LINK ideas which also stemmed from four lines/levels, and what differrentiated Arthurs approach from mined, was I was searching for patteing of prime numbers, and I began with non-counting number zero, and Arthur began with numeber one.
o............................6.......................................12.........................................18...etc
.....1.................5p........7p.....................11p..........13p........................17p................
........2p.......4.......................8........10............................14..........16.........................
.............3p...............................9...........................................15................................
So Arthur, Fuller and myself all use a cosmic fourness { operating system }.
Fullers 4 hexagonal planes define the Vector Equlibrium as Operating System of Unvierse and y 2D lattice of a 3D torus, has four overlapping hexagons, that define the minimal graviton-darkon quantum of space - time. 14 nodal events ergo 91 lines of relationship as a truncated on two ends, di-pyramid.
So we see five nucleated nodal events 0, 3, 6, 9, 12 inside-the-tube as bases of reality. These five may or may not remain at heat death end of Universe. I dunno.
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@sadolite
Watch the doc. and see how others have approached changing their mi
I was addicted to ciggerretes and it was not easy to change my mind in regards to stop, even tho mind said to stop, my physics did not.
I have friend is very OCD, and as I watched the one area, I thought of my friend immediately. Sad, you have sad close and narrow mind from Ive observed, and this is somewhat how OCD as its so very limiting to ones thought processing
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@3RU7AL
how can something cause itself ?
Ex how did biologic life begin? Here is what we know, via observation, and that is, that all biologic life comes from previously existing biologic life.
Eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe. That is clear as a bell and no one every will have any logical common sense much evidence of any other scenario.
Gravity and Dark Energy are Meta-physical, because physical reality is associated with sine-wave patterning we find with bosons and fermions, that we quantize and quantify. Simple
We do not quantise nor quantify ultra-micro Gravity or ultra-micro Dark Energy, ergo, they both are Meta-physical, and that is the correct terminology, for those who follow logical common sense.
Same goes mind/intellect/concepts/ego, whereas I use to call those meta-physical, then I realized the more refined ergo more accurate terminology is Meta-space. Again this is simple if we can drop our preconditioned ways of thinking, and start anew.
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@3RU7AL
Quanta (science) is a sub-category of Qualia (metaphysics).
False 3Ru, Ive made clear and you dont seem to grasp that they are complementaries, not one being a subcatargory of the other.
You need to follow more logical common sense about the Cosmic Trinary Set. They are each a primary set of their on their own, not subcatagorial sets of one or the other. Understand, 3Ru?
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@Greyparrot
Rules for thee and not for me. lol
I agree, barbarians have no rules of engagement, Romans etc have rules of unified engagement and strategy they follow to win the battle and the war.
Trumpet and his band of narcissist followers, do not follow rules. They follow only a false narrative, --the election was stolen--- because the false narrative fulfills their most genetically infantile lusts and desires.
Again Trumpet states ' we ' are going to march to the capitol. What a narcissistic joke.
It was the tapes that were Nixons demise, and with Trumpet he makes sure there are no tapes, photo, phone call logs or secret service calls to be used as evidence. Trumpet is gangster who has been playing his Mafia-like game for decades. With his number hench-man { Rudy } by his side, he feels he is invincible to truth of jan insurrection to overthrow USA fair elections.
Thank God for the Christian dogma of sanity with Pence. The barbarians always slip away from the fight of truth in the territories of a false narrative they've practiced all of their lives. At first, their scared of the truth, then they turn their false cheek, off a tried and true false narrative and attempt an end run around the truth.
After all, the Jan 6 invaders are mostly white people who where just visiting the white house and there is never any danger from those people who are just like them, there mostly white. The nation knows this so they feel a sense of white security blanket to protect them from the orange false narrative back side of the good white peoples face of blanket always a winner for them.
White is might and always right!....all hail the chief orange man his band of orange parrots!
Arise all angry orange patriots, and attack the institution of democracy of fair elections, for we all know, orange is the new white supremacy.
Our orange sparticans will defeat the great empire of institution and its support of a pregnant woman right to body autonomy. I say onto thee, the rules are for them, not us. For thee not me......... Fight! Fight! Fight!........
Thank god these orange patriots are not into peace and love, cause who knows what might happen then. Peaceful white college students might get shot by the national guard. That might look bad for orange patriots. We dont want another Kent state on our orange bloody hands. Do we?
Check with Trumpet and Rudy, and see what they think. Check with all of the lawyers also. Should we check with attorney general B Barr? No, he and vice president of sided with friggin institutions of truth. Their friggin turncoats and you know what we do with turncoats like Pence? No Mr Meadows I forget what we do with those turncoats.
We cause more chaos and confused to blind the public from the truth and increase the smoke screen of a false narrative because it is the orange-patriotic thing to do. Rise fellow orange sparticans! Rise and unify behind the orange boss! Delete, delete delete all logs, photos and records of the truth, immediately.
But Mr Meadows, what about all the media, coverage? We convinced the public all long time ago that the media does portrays the truth ergo, they will not see angry orange patriots on Jan 6, they will only see white people having a nice self guided stroll through the capitol building on that day.
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@FLRW
Opiates are good at changing your mind, especially religion.
Havent seen any opiates mention in this documentary. These people have anxieties and addictions.
One person did have terrible pain from cluster headaches and pislocybin cured him.
Three primary kinds of head ache if I recall and cluster head arches is one of those three. I use hydrocodone { drowsy } for various physical pains or tramadol { stoned } at work rotor cuffs.
Gabapentin for terrible leg and ankle pain ---tramadol didnothing for it---- has been a miracle drug for my sciatic pain over last three years. 3 pills a day religously.
Gabapetin { non-narcotic } was designed for epilepsy. It stops pain to brain from sciatic. Not sure what I would do with out it.
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@3RU7AL
"my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline/List" [DOES NOT EQUAL] "nothing"
Huh? I never said Cosmic Trinary set = nothing. Your creating a false narrative 3Ru. I thought better of you than this nonsense.
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@SkepticalOne
Both of your definitions use the term you're supposed to be defining (and aren't relevant to the OP's definition).
Sorry Sko I have no idea what your trying to specifically convey to me. Need much more clarity and specifics.
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@3RU7AL
The inequality operator (!=) checks whether its two operands are not equal, returning a Boolean result.
So I have no idea how that relates to my comments or others every time you use it i.e. it leaves me confused as to what exactly your point is and specifically to my comments.
And you never elaborate more with clarity so that I understand what your exact points is. I spend lot of time and effort use correct words to offer most refined truth explanations of what i mean to express to others.
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@SkepticalOne
OP has defined 'nothing' as the complete lack of existence, so I believe that would exclude space.
Two primary kinds of Space and other is a false narrative.
2} Space:
...1} macro infinite non-occupied space, that embraces, the following,
....note: is shaped { Meta-space patterning } by perimeter of the following set.....
...2} finite occupied space Universe/God, ----composed of ultra-high number of dynamic,
overlapping, interfering, spiral and dipolar, invaginated
tor.......space(>*<)(>*<)space...
............2a}
physical reality{ Spirit-2 } aka observed { quantised } time and
associated with sine-wave/\/\/ patterning composed of fermioninc matter
and bosonic forces ad a new hybrid set of those two,
............2b}
meta-physical ultra-micro Gravity { spirit-3 geodesics },
......gravitonic particle composed of 14 nodal events and 91 total
lines-of-relationship in static Euclidean concept as truncated on two
ends ---to define a tube--- traingular based, di-pyramid......,
.............2c}
meta-physical, ultra-micro Dark Energy{ spirit-4 geodesics }
....darkonic particle composed of 14 nodal events and 91 total
lines-of-relationship an represented in static Euclidean concept as a
truncated on two ends, ---to define a tube--- triangular based,
di-pyramid.
This following gives view of one-half of a Euclidean, triangular based and truncated dipyramid LINK
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@3RU7AL
"my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline/List" != "nothing"
Huh? 3Ru, Why do you have an exclamation point after phases?
Your above is false. Are you stuck in AI loop of false narrative?
Three primary kinds of existence as follows.
1} Meta-space: complements all the following set of Space
...1a} absolute truth,
.....1b} relative truth,
.....1c} false narrative
---conceptual line of demarcation------
2} Space:
...1} macro infinite non-occupied space, that embraces, the following,
....note: is shaped { Meta-space patterning } by perimeter of the following set.....
...2} finite occupied space Universe/God, ----composed of ultra-high number of dynamic, overlapping, interfering, spiral and dipolar, invaginated tor.......space(>*<)(>*<)space...
............2a} physical reality{ Spirit-2 } aka observed { quantised } time and associated with sine-wave/\/\/ patterning composed of fermioninc matter and bosonic forces ad a new hybrid set of those two,
............2b} meta-physical ultra-micro Gravity { spirit-3 geodesics }, ......gravitonic particle composed of 14 nodal events and 91 total lines-of-relationship in static Euclidean concept as truncated on two ends ---to define a tube--- traingular based, di-pyramid......,
.............2c} meta-physical, ultra-micro Dark Energy{ spirit-4 geodesics } ....darkonic particle composed of 14 nodal events and 91 total lines-of-relationship an represented in static Euclidean concept as a truncated on two ends, ---to define a tube--- triangular based, di-pyramid.
This following gives view of one-half of a Euclidean, triangular based and truncated dipyramid LINK
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@3RU7AL
"infinite unoccupied space" != "nothing"
True if we call a identify the thing as occupied space, but again that is not directly related to my former reply to you, pointing out that you comment is false. See below, again
3Ru......it is impossible to imagine nothing
False eRu, we can conceptualize truly non-occupied space and Ive done that with my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline/List for 15 - 20 years
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@3RU7AL
"empty space" != "nothing"
I'm missing your point here 3Ru? My comment stands as stated. Ive conceptualized it and had it in my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline/List for 10 - 20 years. Old news
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@3RU7AL
it is impossible to imagine nothing
False we can conceptualize truly non-occupied space. Infinite and eternal is harder to conceptualize { get our head around }.
it is impossible to find nothing
Best classfied as unknown at this time, we know it exists via common sense logic of what exists outside of finite occupied space Universe/God. Simple conclusion yet ego keeps many from this truth
it is impossible to identify exactly where nothing is
False. It is outside of finite, occupied space Universe. Again this is simple stuff.
there is no nothing
False
and never has been
False.
therefore, "something" cannot emerge from it
True. Something { occupied space } cannot emerge from truly non-occupied space aka naught is created nor destroyed only transformed and been known since late 1800's. Old news
One out six 3Ru. Either you getting better or worse, I'm not sure. :--)
Take note how none can address specific comment by with any logical common sense that invalidates my comments, as stated. Ego based mental blockages rather throw stones than place their ego to the side. Humans.
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@DebateAllDaTings
Nothing isn't a "thing", and it is the absence of existence so obviously nothing cannot "exist".
Delusional as there is three primary kinds of cosmic existence and you cant seem to grasp any of three. Silly mind games on your part
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All of my above post #15 stems from fourness and correlates with Arthur Youngs operating system of Universe --viva four lines/levels--- The Reflexive Universe LINK, and,
Bucky Fullers Operating System of Universe based on four hexagonal planes of the Vector Equilibrium { VE } aka cubo-octahedron.
My 2D lattice representation of a 3D torus, is based on similar concept to Arthurs Youngs, except he begain with numerical #1 and I began with #0 and he never inside-outed his symmetrical version, whereas I did inside-out my symmetrical version to create the asymmetrical version and the toroidal concepts of Gravity, observed time and Dark Energy
Symmetrical version { inherent sine-wave pattern }:
0.............................................6.......................................12..........................................18.
......1.............................5p............7p.....................11p..........13p.........................17p.......
.............2p.............4............................8..........10...........................14.........16....................
.....................3p.........................................9.........................................15.............................
Next below is the inside-outed asymmetrical version of the above:
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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0..............................................6.................................................12.....................................Observable
Time inside
---Bucky Fullers----abstract/conceptual great circle----central inside of 3D torodial
tube as conceptual spine------
........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable
Time inside
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.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE
{ inner }....................
So take note, that Arthur Youngs operating system of Universe stems from a fourness { the four lines } and,
Bucky Fullers Operating System of Universe is the four hexagonal planes that define his Vector Equlilbrium LINK aka cubo-octahedron
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@DebateAllDaTings
If there is nothing, that means there is no restrictions, thus, there is nothing stopping something from popping into existence.
False. The macro-infinite, and truly non-occupied space, exists in complement, and via its embracment of, the finite, occupied space Universe/God, and the finite Universe/God, has restricitions, --obvious to truth seekers-- ergo restrictions do exist, within the macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space, that pertain to finite Universe/God within the infinite and truly non-occupied space.
And inherent restriction to the macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space, is that, it is only restricted by the shape of the finite, occupied space, that it embraces/surrounds. Occupied shapes non-occupied space, within, sort of like and egg in a finite womb of space. The only differrence is the womb is finite.
However, if there is nothing, there is no potential, meaning no potential for something to pop into existence.
Now you finally using some logic for a change YAY! Both of these two primary kinds of space --in complement to each other--- are eternally existent.
Humans cannot truly get their head around infinite nor eternal existence. And there is the third kind of existence, that is also complementary to tow kinds of space, and that is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts ex ego. Ive been very clear with my explanations of this Cosmic Trinary Set for at least 10 years and to some degree for 20 years.
123 ABC, thats how is easy ' U 'niverse/' G 'od can be, sung to M Jackson and Jackson 5 song
Can something come from nothing?
You should no the correct answer for that, by now. All else is childish fools play. My numerical, invaginated 2D lattice, as representation of the 3D torus, explains what happens at these cyclic events of the Big Bang or as Fuller called them, the next WOW!
1} The first thing to realize, is that all particles of Universe/God ---barring graviton-darkion--- are composed of two or more of my invaginated tori.
2} the 2nd thing to realize, is the outer positive geodesic peak of Gravity is ultra-micro ergo Metaphysical because we do not detect/quantise/quantify it ergo it is and same goes for Dark Energy,
3} a numerically triangulated sine-wave pattern exists inside each of these tori, and the proper combination of interfering sine-wave patterns leads that which is beyond just being a virtual particle, but becomes a real particle, that we do quantize and quantify as fermionic matter and bosonic forces.
Here again, 123, ABC, thats how easy Universe/God can be. Sung to M Jackson and jackson 5 tune. So read my lips/text and if you must, address any specific comment or word you do not grasp/understand/comprehend.
..................space( )( )space..... = vertical view of a bisected torus/cross-section with macro-infinite space outside of it
................space( ) i ( )space...... i = Meta-space ego that exists beyond the torus { conceptually } and outside of non-occupied space { conceptual representation } i.e outside of the toroidal tube and its surface set of nodal events
...............space( * ) i ( * )space...... * * = bilateral consciousness
...........space(> t <) i ( > t <)space....... t = observed time { quanta }
.........space( /\/\/ ) i ( /\/\/ )space...... /\/\/ = sine-wave pattern associated with physical reality aka observed time and consciousness
.........space(> * <) i (> * <)space........>< = invaginations from outer peak of positive geodesic and inner peak of negative geodesic
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@DebateAllDaTings
*seemingly physical*
Yeah I seemingly stubbed my toe and seemingly felt pain, tho not really, it was just a reoccurring dream Ive been having ever since my momma popped me out and when doctor went to slap me on the ass, he missed.
Dumb-ass doctor thought he was seemingly in a dream til my toe stuck him in the his right eyeball. After that he really went after my ass, big time.
I was seemingly crying for about an hour, till seemingly had this nipple like thing in my seemingly open mouth. Yeah I seemingly enjoyed that nipple for about hour.
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@DebateAllDaTings
I just did *what seemed to be* subbing my toe on a wall, it hurt.
Good, welcome to the real world ---real estate--- aka occupied space, that is specifically composed of fermionic matter and bosonic forces PING! OUCH! Etc.
Didnt the doctor slap you ass when mom popped you out?
Does that prove physical toes and physical walls exist objectively outside of mentality? Of course not, that's silly.
Its called the first step scientific experi-mental- { see the word -mental- }, The only silly is your philsophical mind loops your stuck in. Maybe 3Ru can help you get unstuck, as, I can lead a horse to truth......
I can stub my toe on a wall in a dream too, that doesn't mean my dream toes and dream wall actually exist.
Come back and talk to me when you learn the differrence between dreaming and awaken consciousness. Silly
Hallucinations and Dreams prove that the mind can trick you into thinking their are physical objects when there are none. No amount of apparent hammers could ever prove objectively physical objects exist as they could be mental projections just like a dream hammer is.
The only trick going on while you type to me, is your playing Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts/ego based philosophical games with your self, sort of like mental masturbation. Hey, whatever floats your boat or cranks your tractor.
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@zedvictor4
I'm questioning what was before a beginning and why did a beginning occur.
You mean what was before the bIg Bang. Correct? Nobody knows other than to say, finite, occupied space Universe/God, is in eternally transformation of its three primary types of occupied space existence:
Occupied space Universe/God:
....1} eternally{?} existent or blips out for brief periods of time, possibily as Ive laid out for you, the fermionic matter and bosonic forces ---and the new third hybrid set of those two--- as physical reality ergo observed time { quanta validated } and most if not all of these associated with a sine-wave patterning /\/\/,
...2} eternally existent, ultra-micro ergo Meta-physical Gravity,
..... 3} eternally existent, ultra-micro, ergo Meta-physical Dark Energy.
Ive been repeating this for some ten years now, and on this forum since its inception, and previous dart.
How can stuff be?
If it is eternally existent then how can it not exist? Zed, humans only see finite stuff, so they dont grasp eternal existent even when we have discovered and all scientists believe the 1st of thermodynamics is a cosmic absolute, but again that is only the physical reality and I make clear that Gravity and Dark Energy or beyond that physical reality because of their ultra-micro nature, ergo makes them liken to another dimension ex parrellel dimension to the physical reality.
And again I begin to show with my 2D lattice ----of 3D torus--- how it may be that for ultra-short periods of time, the sine-wave associated physical reality dissipaates into Gravity ergo Dark Energy, because they both diametrica opposites on the same torus, and take turns sharing the geodesic out surface set of nodal events via postive outer, and negative inner. Simple
It's just accepted that stuff exists and that it was somehow created. (From nothing)
Nothing new there Zed humans believe accept all kinds of BS. You understand that dont you?
If you were sitting watching T.V. and a hippopotamus suddenly appeared from nowhere in a puff of smoke.
1} let me know when there is scientific evidence of such, and not just imaginary concept,}
2} what is possible technology may some day dissemble this occupied space integrity and re-assemble it elswhere as in.... beam us up scotty...... Occupied space is transformed and not created from any truly non-occupied space. Why you cannot grasp such simple concept speaks to:
....1} your preconditioning to this this or that way over in childhood and over the years, or ego based mental blockage to obvious truths.
All of your above reply, however meaningful, is nonetheless post creation theory.
False Zed, my 2D lattice of a 3D torus ----finite set of all space-time tori of Universe--- is eternal transformation, and if occupied space physical reality { /\/\/ } dissipates into Gravity, then Gravity has to respond/transform in some way. Yes?
If all occupied space physical reality { /\/\/ } dissipates into Dark Energy then again, what transformations does this cause to the sum-total set of occupied space Universe/God?
This is only three we have to be concerned with, ergo, this makes it much simpler to speculate what occurs at end-beginning cycles of the finite, occupied space Universe. If you want to understand, then understand the 2D lattice as best as you can becuase it is 2D representation of the fundamentals of Universe/God.
If I had the money I would certainly pay some one to create a these numerically based, invaginated, 3D tori, that dynamically would over lap and interfere and many diferrent ways, differrent combinations of two, three four etc.
Remember also that even tho we see the four lines/levels { in 2D } that all we ever see in reality is inside the tube, not the outer and inner peaks of Gravity and Dark Energy. Depending on the kind of tor nodal interference I think wecan grasp how virtual particles appears seem to appear, but we only know they exist by their effects on real particles.
IVe been following a lot of this physics stuff since the late 70's and I think my approach is one of the most simple and aligns so much with Fullers Great Circles, { Vector Equlibrium as Operating System of Universe } and only partially to Arthur Youngs Reflexive Universe
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@DebateAllDaTings
The term "mind" and "consciousness" are interchangeable to me.
Ive bee very on how the differrentiation between the two, irrespective of whether grasp or accept my givens, as presented.
All animals have a consciousness, and only humans greater access to Meta-space, mind/intellect/concepts/ego. This is simple way to grasp.
Complex consciousness involves a nervous system ergo five senses ergo occupied space reality ergo mass, charge, color taste or whatever
Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts/ego has no mass, charge, color, spin, taste etc.
All else is philosophical mind games loops your stuck in.
Also, in a dream, if I were to bash my dream hand with a dream hammer and feel pain that would obviously not prove that the hammer objectively exists physically.
Mind games do not change, what I presented. Go get a hammer ore whatever you feel comfortable doing the experiement with.
Bash your hand, stick your toe, crunch your head etc, and the get back me to tell me if occupied space reality { observed time quanta } PING! BANG! etc exist for you. Mind games is all you have to offer.
Physical objects could just be mental projections just like dreams, which is what the interaction problem suggests. Because if there were physical objects that existed they could not interact with the mind.
Do the experiments as presented and get back to me. No? You dont want to do the scientific experiments. Yeah, why am I not surprised.
Maybe you can get 3Ru to do them for you, he seems to be a philosophical loopy dream state also. ;--O
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@zedvictor4
In terms of thought processing, it is just as easy to imagine empty space as it is to imagine occupied space.
That is not what I stated. I stated finite is easier to grasp that infinite.
.....Eternal is to time, as,
......Infinite is to space
And once again I have to remind you Zed, that, humans only observe finite occupied space. Humans do not observe any infinite space, occupied or non-occupied.
But this doesn't explain a beginning.
The beginning of fermionic matter --after the big bang-- has story that has developed over the years. I'm surprised youve not seen or read any of them.
You must not have been interested in cosmology and physics lasts 40 years.
1] first hit: ...." How was the matter created? The
universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy
jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with
unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make
the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed
this titanic explosion the Big Bang. "
Ebuc.....So here again, Zed, I have to remind you, that matter { occupied space } did not come from nothing { non-occupied space }. Ferminonic matter and bosonic forces came from previous phase of occupied space prior to the big bang{ BB }/WOW!. The finer details are harder to discern, as we look with our observational instruments, to arrive closer and closer to that exact time of the BB?/WOW!
..." How close to the Big Bang can we see? .What can we see? We can see the heat that was there at about 380,000 years after the expansion of the universe began 13.8 billion years ago (which is what we refer to as the Big Bang). This heat covers the entire sky and fills the universe. "...
If you want finer detail I can give my understanding based on my own speculations based on my knowledge base and explorations, that began with searching for pattern of prime numbers and most recently ended with seeing the potential way in which occupied space fermions and bosons, transform into and out of { via invagination (><) } Gravity and Dark Energy.
This following is last message #12, found in thread titled Structure of Graviton-Darkion.https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7649-structure-of-graviton-darkion
Let me try to explain #11 above another way.
1} Gravitational space and Dark Energy space can be likened to another dimension of occupied space because ultra-micro.
2}
our sine-wave/\/\/ associated Reality/Observed Time Quanta, may
approach a time called heat death of Universe, i.e. all matter becomes
EMRadiation photons, of a very ultra-long wave frequency.
3}
and I'm saying that depending on which outer or inner space-curvature
is more dominant, means that, the inside-tube ergo reality of fermions and bosons ---that is inside all space-time { t } tori of
Universe---, sine-waves ----/\/\/ associated with fermions and bosons /\/\/ --- can be approaching flatness { ultra-long wave }, and
eventually dissiptes into, i.e. becomes, either Gravity ( ) or Dark Energy )(
And for those not familiar my occupied space scenarios, Gravity is the outer set of surface events of positive ( ) curvature on all space-time { t } tori that compose all particles of Universe/God. Dark Energy is the inner set of surface events of negative )( curvature on all space-time{ t } tori, that, comose all particles of Universe/God. .....space(> t < )( > t< )space....
So
visually, below is the recent verson of four levels, then followed by the original version. I show this inside-the-tube sine-wave become longer wave { flat lining } and moving
closer towards Gravity and 0, 3p, 6, 9, etc are now a minminal
variation in sine-wave high and low peaks.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
0~~~~~~~~~~~3p~~~~~~~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~~~~~~~12~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~15~~~~~~~Observable Time inside
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Stop here
Start here
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Below is the equanimity of balance version to reference the diffferrence to the above where sine-wave associated reality { fermions and bosons } dissiapte into Gravity or Dark Energy ergo naught is created nor lost, only transformed, if only for ultra-short period of time { duration }.
This original version below makes the invaginations ----2p-3p-4, and 5p-6-7p and 8-9-10, then 11p-12-13p etc---- from Gravity Dark Energy peaks of curvature on a space-time { t } torus.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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0..............................................6.................................................12..........................................Observable Time inside
---Bucky Fullers-------abstract great circle----central spine inside center the 3D torodial tube---------------
........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable Time inside
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Below is original or static equanimity i.e. the sine-wave, Gravity and Dark Energy all balanced scenario
.....1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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0..............................................6.................................................12..........................................Observable Time inside
---Bucky Fullers----conceptual great circle----inside the 3D torodial tube as a conceptual spine------------
........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable Time inside
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.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
So the reality associated time wave { sine-wave } is 0, 3p, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc..........
Take note that matter closely aligns with these triangulated set. 3 primary kinds of quark, with total 18 combinations of quark and 18 kinds of anti-quark.
3 kinds of electron and 3 kinds of anti-electron
3 kinds of neutrino and 3 kinds of anti-neutrino
3 kinds of weak force W- W+ and Zo
9 kinds of strong sub-nuclear force gluon, tho only 8 are manifest in reality, that, we can observe
finding a matching triangular to EMRadiations { photons } ive not identified yet
The one last thing to note is, that all fermions and bosons ---putting aside Gravity and Dark Energy as bosons--- are composed of no less than two of my presented space-time{ t } tori. ...... space(>t< )( >t< )space..... I m guessing that the ultra-short lived mesons { strong nuclear forces } are just these two space-time{t} tori, cause only two would be the least stable having no obvious signs of geometric stabilization.
These two tori I believe are two great circle associations of the four that define the Vector Equlibrium aka cubo-octahedron
>< = two invaginations on each space-time{t} tori of Universe.
( ) = positive shaped geodesic curvature of ultra-micro, ergo, meta-physical Gravity,
)( = negative shaped geodesic curvature of ultra-mciro, ergo, meta-physical Dark Energy.
Understand Zed? Physical reality ---aka observed time { t }--- is inside the tube and has a numerical, triangular based sine-wave association.
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@DebateAllDaTings
Let them bang there thumb with a hammer and see if that is just a Meta-space mind/intellect/concept, or an issue of consciousness known as pain.
Consciousness is typically associated with nervous system animals.
Access the Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts/ego is typically mostly associated with the human animal.
Inbreeding is quickest evolutionary pathway to loss of access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts/ego
Out breeding leads to more complex generalizations of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts/ego ergo the ability to create technologies that adapt to most kinds of environments.
Bio-diversity is also a resultant of out-breeding evolution ergo a greater complexity.
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Let try to explain #11 above another way.
1} Gravitational space and Dark Energy space can be likened to another dimension of occupied space because ultra-micro.
1} Gravitational space and Dark Energy space can be likened to another dimension of occupied space because ultra-micro.
2} our sine-wave/\/\/ associated Reality/Observed Time Quanta, may approach a time called heat death of Universe, i.e. all matter becomes EMRadiation photons, of a very ultra-long wave frequency.
3} and I'm saying that depending on which oute,r or inner space-curvature is more dominant, means the inside-tube ---of all space-time tori of Universe---, sine-wave is approaching flatness { ultra-long wave }, and eventually dissaptes into, ergo becomes, either Gravity or Dark Energy.
So visually I show this inside-the-tube sine-wave become longer and moving closer towards Gravity and 0, 3p, 6, 9, etc are now a miminal variation in sine-wave high and low peaks
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
0~~~~~~~~~~~3p~~~~~~~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~~~~~~~12~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~15~~~~~~~Observable Time inside
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Below is the equanimity of balance version to reference the diffferrence aboe
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................
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0..............................................6.................................................12..........................................Observable Time inside
---Bucky Fullers-------abstract great circle----central spine inside center the 3D torodial tube---------------
........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable Time inside
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@zedvictor4
{ ovum } Egg >< spermoza { seed }
Womb { oven } one-in-the-oven
One nucleation in the oven is 12-around-1 sphericals via four hexagonal planes defined by 12 sphericals.
When all { Universe } is in equanimity, ---X x - X y---we have three X chromsomes for every y chromosome in Universe
Equanimity is the four hexagonal planes when constsructed from paper we have:
24 chords >< 24 radii wherein, each is of exactly same length, ergo, same vectorial value
2 nuclei { nucleations } OO OO OO * * OO OO OO
See B graphic in link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5511.html
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@zedvictor4
Though the questioning mind cannot ignore the notion of something from nothing....A beginning and therefore the possibility of an end.
The mind can when it has no evidence of occupied space created nor destroyed ergo the 1st law of thermodynamic introduced and adopted in lat 1800's.
You still never state where you get this non-sense idea from. Is it the Bible? Cosmology etc.
It's very easy to say eternally occupied space.....Space is an easy concept.
Space is infinite and is not an infinite is not easys concept for most humans to grasp, because humans only deal with graspble, tangible finites.
Finite occupied space Universe/God is far easier to grasp than infinite Space.
But can you explain the existence of matter......That which gives space significance.
Ive explained it many times via observation by physicists it and it is called fermiconic matter.
3 primary kinds of quark, that total 18 combinations and 18 anti-quark combinations.
3 primary kinds of electron, electron as muon and electron as tau and there 6 anti-such particls
3 primary kinds of neutrino, muon-neutrino, tau-neutriono and there are 6 such anti-neutrino particles
The eternal existence of matter is very easy to say, but impossible to prove.
We have no evidence of otherwise, so what is much harder to your lack of reason, for your repeated delving into this seemingly your hokey-pokey inferreneces of an occupied space something from a truly non-occupied space nothing.
https://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2019/12/15/nasas-juno-spacecraft-discovers-new-cyclone-on-jupiter/
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@Polytheist-Witch
@n8nrgim
...."A mind of limits, a camera of thoughts" is the name of this
contribution from citizen scientist Prateek Sarpal. Jupiter inspires
artists and scientists with its beauty. In this image, south is up, and
the enhanced color evokes an exotic marble and childhood joy.
Amazing Blue Marble photo called Jupiter
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Ultra-high tension Gravity, or Dark Energy, or both, may occur if the
occupied space we call Reality/Observed Time ---and associated with all
space-time tor iof Universe/God via the below abstract set of sine-wave
set of 0, 3p, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc----, as the the two diametrically
polar opposite curvatures { outer positive that is always the outer most
perimeters of finite Universe }, and inner curvature.
So
if there comes cyclic times, that Observed Time Reality ends, that
means the two invaginations from all space-time tori of Universe, cease
to exist, and all of that occupied space as Reality/Observed Time quanta
is transformed into Gravity and Dark Energy.
Maybe
currently it is more transforming into Dark Energy but there may come a
time with there is more being transformed into Gravity. If Gravity,
then perhaps that is what leads to ultra-high tension contraction, only
reaching a peak of contraction and then releasing as the Big Ban or as
Fullers calls it, the next WOW!.
......1.............................5p...........7p............................11p.............13p........................17p....G{ outer }....................--0..............................................6.................................................12..........................................Observable Time inside---Bucky Fullers-------abstract great circle----central spine inside center the 3D torodial tube---------------........................3p............................................9.................................................15..............Observable Time inside--.................2p............4................................8...........10..................................14.......16............DE { inner }..............
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@zedvictor4
Zed, I sure have clarified more .....naught is created nor destroyed, only eternally transformed between states of occupied space existence.
Does the sine-wave associated reality ever cease to exist, if only ultra-short period of time? Only if that part it occupies is converted into Gravit-Dark Energy, the diametrically polar opposites of all Universe/God based tori.
Eternal is to time, as,
Infinite is to space.
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@Greyparrot
That the Orangemanbad cult thinks the Orangeman is a narcissist?
...." Only I can fix it " { Trumpet }, is like Orange-Grey-Parrot saying .... only I understand Trumpets inner most mind processes.
Orange-Bad-Parrot > Orange-Bad-Thought Processing > Pregnant Women Suffer the Most > End-date-for-humanity > epitaph > .." only I can fix it "..
Only we can fixit, as-all-for-one and one-for-all aka unity under flag of survival on Earth
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@zedvictor4
.....Something from nothing as it were.....
Huh, Zed, where you come out with these ideas from ...How to Change Your Mind.....is beyond my comprehension, and I imagine most others.
Regarding occupied space Universe/God...naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed between states of occupied space existence.
Watch the first three episodes, and in two places, individuals talk about obliterating self, i.e. the concepts of theirselves, not biologic suicide. It is the conceptual self obliteration that allows them to not have suicidal thoughts.
With ego death nothing is lost, only gained, an opening to allow in truth and possibilty of new ways of thinking ergo behaving.
This is what many of these perverted virtual rapist need badly.
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@Greyparrot
That's fine. I can live in a world that can never go back to the days of Roe just because some fringe people don't want to collaborate on legislation everyone can agree on. Go ahead with your bad self taking victory laps on never having Roe codified because it sucked to begin with.
What sucks is your Orange-Grey-parrot preference for back alley abortions instead of Roe vs wade in place. Your type people are disgusting perverted virtual rapist, that, come from a long line of partricarchal, biblical based, fundementlist who have little value in a rationaly humane society that has empathy and compassion for pregnant women and their circusmstances.
Go suck on a the nipple of a bible and dont bother to say more about Roe until you can get the partriarch washed off your stinky attitude towards pregnant women. Please.
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@bmdrocks21
That’s what I’ve been saying this entire time but you seem dead set on contradicting this statement
When and where have I contradicted your statement? All murder is horrific.
Your entire post is nothing but unsubstantiated pontificating. Especially “I'm speaking a truth to you, that you dont want to hear” and calling everyone who disagrees with abortion a ‘virtual rapist’
Yeah, that is a truth, that, you and they dont want to hear. It is a descripitive truth about identifying what it is you are and doing to the pregnant woman. What part of those three words do you not grasp or not concede to being?
I’m not going to waste my time responding again. It’s nothing but the same few words that you’ve already said but rearranged. You’ve shown a frightful inability to engage in a coherent conversation.
YOur the one now showing desire to run from the descriptive truth, not me, of what you are. You and your type are perverted virtual rapist. Read my lips/text. You, and all rapist, virtual or not, are perverts, because their desire to stick their nose or other anatomy into a pregnant womans bodily business, without her consent.
Liberals love to criticize religion, but I’ve never met any fundamentalist that can be so annoyingly dogmatic as a true believer in your secular cult
Read my lipt/ text and not your false narrative. Ive critizized the partriarchal bible and its fundamentalist ways of thought that lead to this misscarriage of justice towards pregnant women and their right to not have their bodily business invaded by busy body nose, without her consent.
Now read that back to me and address this perversion by you and others to stick your virtual nose into pregnants womans bodily business without her consent. Your sic-n-head is what you are.
Thank you for reinvigorating my skepticism of “one man one vote.
Huh? What nonsense are you going on about now. My guess it has nothing to do with the truths Ive laid out clearly about you and your type, and you want to run from. Shame on you.
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And you listen to me, a baby or a woman? Which has lived less of its life and is worse to abuse and/or murder? Stop for a second and think.
I dont get your point. All murder is horrific and if you think murder is not horrific your incorrect. Block me Rat-man
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@3RU7AL
1} Ive addressed this recently --in this thread I think, maybe not--- Meta-space shape/pattern of occupied space quanta, affect dynamics of flow around and occupied space set of quanta, atoms, molecules etc for example air flow around the shape of vehicle or plane etc.
So yes, in a way there is effect but not interaction, cause inter-action require both aspects to have a property and by property I mean tangible things like charge { plus negative }, spin, taste { tactile }, auditory etc and Meta-space shape has no properties, because not an occupied space,
2} macro-infinite space, embraces finite occupied space, but again, truly nothingness space, has no properties, and its existence is 99.99999% irrelevant to our finite occupied space Universe/God,
3} occupied space parts inter-act with each other ---to varying degrees--- because they all have properties.
So 3Ru, does that address and answer your questions? You have not yet offerred a proper descripion of you on thing, monism etc. How do my above three relate or not to your one thing monism?
Occupied space Uni { one } verse { thing } is a monism.
Meta-space is a one thing monism.
Truly non-occupied space is a one thing monoism and each is distinct in their existence ergo that is why they exist as a Cosmic Trinary Set. This is simple 3Ru.
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@Polytheist-Witch
The show is primarily about history of these substances ---much you and I never new about--- and there medical values, that, conincide with spirituality, and especially so for cancer patients and PTSD.
You will understand better once you watch the first three episodes. 4th episode is a lot from Native Americal Peyote Church and their use and struggles for their rights to use this sacrament in their religon. Ive not finnished that episode, so dont know how much they will go into medical data on mescaline.
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@3RU7AL
i'm attempting to decipher your moral framework
Bones has no moral framework in regards to a pregnant woman. Bones is partriarchal based, peverted virtual rapist, and to think they have a moral framwork regarding pregnant women is a little like thinking that...............?
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@3RU7AL
NOUMENON
Yeah that is pretty much wortlhless definition/descriptioin 3Ru.
Cosmic Trinary Set is a three things/aspects/consideratons/characterations/indentifiers etc, and each is distinct for each other, and all that exists, falls into one or more catagories i.e. none of three alone cover the other two catagories, that is why it is a primary set.
In past youve also tried to invoke a monism for it all, the one thing, the NOUMENON and that also does not work.
Mono-poles is what some thing Gravity has since the photon has the electric-magnistism duality. I say to you and all others, that, the graviton-darkion is the dualism of the Gravity ergo the diametric ---because of outer and inner curvature of torus--- opposite ergo polar opposite of Dark Energy.
If any follow the four levels/lines Ive laid out, the numericallly spiral and invaginated torus is the most rational, common sense conclusion we can come to.
Some may ask what is so special about four lines/levels and not three or five or six. There is two primary consideratons for the significance of the four lines/levels:
...1} Arthur Young, inventor of the Bell helicopter, also used four lines/levels in his Reflexive Universe cosmic scenarios, altho, he started with number 1, whereas I started with non-counting number zero, and that makes all the differrence in where the prime numbers fall.
...2 } Bucky Fuller felt that that Vector Equilbrium ---four bisecting nucleated ---and not-- hexagons are the Euclidean, Operating { transformational } System of Universe { OS } and the closet we will ever come to knowing God, because of the equanimity of vector values for 24 chords equal to its 24 radii, when the VE is constructed from four individual hexagons, see LINK b graphic and the VE is asymmetrical ergo the squares allow for its transformational abilities,
...3} my initial numerical, spiral, and an invaginated torus, just happens to have, four over lapping hexagons, in curve-linear set, that total to 14 nodal events, that, define an truncated { ergo a tube is defined } di-pyramid { two tetrahedra bonded at triangular face/opening }, and the 5 nucleated nodal events, that define a sine-wave patter, inside the tube, away from the outer and inner suface nodal events that total 9 nodal events. 9 + 5 = 14 nodal events,
4} h,mm cant think of the other four, oh yeah, the VEs four bisecting hexagonal planes, are on the same orientation { 60 degrees } as the tetrahedron. See LINK, where we can see that when the tetra goes to zero volume, its four faces define a Vector Equilibrum, with 12 extended triangles ---I see those as radiation from black hole that is evaporating---.
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@Greyparrot
Something like this needs to be co-authored by both parties. What leadership in either party do you think will step up and do this?
Someone who plays politics with truth ergo a false narrative expert. Oh yeah the Orange-Talking Head-Trumpet.
Who will turn his head around to most politically populist view, and get us out from under patriarchal, biblical based, fundamentlistic, dark middle ages ways of thought??
Lets start with, a woman, man, or hermaphrodite? Or maybe for Trumpet it will be an AI treety bird....tweet tweet, all day long, rockin robin...sung to M. Jackson and Jackson 5 tune
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@3RU7AL
your categories are aspects of the ONE THING
What thing do you keep refering to 3Ru? I have a set existence in three ways, not one.
Your playing ring around the rosy { three specifics/defiitives } and never placing your butt { one thing } in a specific descriptive/definitive chair { one thing }
To keep saying the " one thing " makes no sense 3Ru, so why do you keep repeating it? I think it is because you know, your philosophy has hit a dead end and sees no way around this Cosmic Trinary Set. I believe is absolute truth and still waiting for years, for any to show any way it cannot be a Cosmic Truth.
Multiverses is the most common approach to attempt to get beyond these three, and it goes no where, when we inspect it more closely.
1} Meta-space, ---has no spacial location---
2} truly non-occupied space, ---an actual space ergo has a location relative to finite occupied spsace---
3} finite occupied space. ---an actual space has a location in regards to any of its actual space parts---
So the only descriptive word these three have in common, is Space. So the best you could have offer is use of a common { one thing } word, Space.
However, without the three types, the reader would never grasp these primary cosmic distinctions aka differentiation from each other. Only 2 and 3 share some commonality of an actual space, not a virtual Meta-space.
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@Intelligence_06
@Bones
We should all agree on that before 22 weeks where the fetus can survive outside the womb, it should be legal and it should not be comparable with murder. Outlawing anything after that is understandable, but before 22 weeks it sounds absurd.
What is absurd is your removing the pregnant woman and an organism of hers out of the equation. Duhh! Get over it already intel6, the fetus/baby organism does not belong to you, to bones, to federal or state government nor Supreme court. Go that point yet???????
You are absurd and a perverted virtual rapist for making such statements.
bones....I would say most agree, which is why the fetus too ought have the bodily rights not to be killed.
Duhh, you choose to remain ignorant and a perverted virtual rapist of pregnant women. Sick-n-head.
And this all stems from patriarchal biblical basis of fundamentalism straight out of dark middle ages, when men ---and women--- then and now in 20222 are clueless to what is morally and scientifically the correct paths to follow.
Get you friggin nose out of a pregnant womans business, unless she gives her consent for others to stick their noses in their. Understand this simple statement yet? No? I didnt think so. Fundamentlist BS in 2022. And does any wonder why my original end-date-for humanity was 2015 and now 2232.
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@3RU7AL
all things that are detectable and can interact in any way are aspects of the ONE THING
3Ru, when you can relate you comment specifically to my last comment regarding how all that exists, falls into one or more of the Cosmic Trinary Set/list/outline Please share.
There exist the three Cosmic Catagories. Simple.
The only universal monism exists only a Meta-space concept ex the word Universe, or God, or the specific terminoloyg that places the Cosmic Trinary Set under one terminology ' U 'niverse/ ' G 'od.
No absolute truth philosphy can exist without this Cosmic Trinary Set at the top of the cosmic hierarchy. Ive been clear on this for several years, and none have given any rationale or common sense that is other than those three.
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@3RU7AL
There exists no philosophy of truth that does not recognize this complementay dualism ---occupied space and Meta-space ex a shape/pattern of occupied space----
Or the more definitive/descriptive, trinary cosmic set, that expresses the logical complementary to a finite, occupied space Universe/God, and that is the macro-infinite, and truly non-occupied space outside of ergo beyond/Meta, the finite occupied space Universe/God.
1, 2, 3, thats how easy ' U 'niverse can be...sung to M jackson and Jackson-5 song..... ABC, 123, thats how easy love can be.
All that exists falls into one or more of these three cosmic catagories.
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@Intelligence_06
I also mention unicycle with a coffee cup holder. One wheel is minimal mode of transportation. Two is next then three.
Car is a mode of transportation on highways, countrys, back roads to get us from point a to b.
Some Jeeps { cars } designed with no roof coverings ---not a covertibale either--- in world war 2--- and today still such not open to weather jeeps are still designed.
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