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Within this context, the fields are in the same plane as if were looking from a birds-eye-viewpoint of the torus outline --or silhouette-like-- four orbits around a central abstract point, that is outside of the inner negative surface.... ( (( () )) ) ...... If the geodesics between specific wave-linear sequential set of numbers{ events } are shown we would see the geodesic curves of the torus. Once we have that torus, we have the following;
1} two outer peak of positive curvature, here--->( )<----
2} two inner peak of negative curvature ---->)(<----
3} two distinct peaks of neutral curvature also known a Gaussian flat curvature See graphic in this link, scroll half way on the page.
AI..." A torus, or donut shape, has a "flat" Gaussian curvature overall, meaning its total Gaussian curvature is zero, because while the outer part of the torus has positive curvature, the inner part has negative curvature, balancing each other out;therefore, at any given point on the torus, the curvature is not flat, but the total curvature across the whole surface is zero. "..
Recently in listening Peter Woit, or someone, where some one sparked and association to those two neutral flat spaces of Gaussian torus. Damn!, that I cant recall that now. May have been a good lead to some association in my scenarios, and I cannot recall what it was. Anyway here below is the four line --ergo birds-eye-view of four circle plane ( (( () )) )-- view of the 3D, volumetric field of space-time, and here below in simple, 2D lattice format.
Below we see is #9 is internal aspect of the toroidal tube, and is in bold. More on that in next Part Four
..1...........5p.7p..........11p...13p...........17p.........loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
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0................6....................12.......................18...loops around to meet itself ergo 2D plane
........3p...............9.......................15.................loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
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.....2p...4............8..10...............14...16...............loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
Note: because each line circles to define a circle, 18 loops and is first to meet itself at 0, ergo 18 and 0 share the same location. 18/0.
The others maintain there space. It is only because 18 is in the lead position that its nodal event shares location with 0. So in the above pattern 0 is not included in the consideration of 1 ---> 13p.
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@sadolite
You need to fuck off and not comment on my posts anymore. Did you understand those words and the context they were being used.
Sadolite, on this one we are in total agreement. That is three members who have made similar comments, however, DArt has become a free-for-all including lack of integrity of respect for other personal space, when they ask for it in threads they have started.
That said, I do believe some moderator is keeping majority of spam at bay. Thank Barney or whomever for that.
Some of us remember the zombie apocalypse of spam that ate away the flesh of the original Dart forum.
Some of us remember the zombie apocalypse of spam that ate away the flesh of the original Dart forum.
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...ebuc...
Smog blankets the landscape,
Smog blankets the landscape,
Smothering fresh air,
Blocking the light of knowledge,
Sucking oxygen from the soul,
Contaminating the blood,
Psoriasis spreads the outer skin.
Speculate on the coming flat lining.
( * i * ) >->-->----->------->---------->( ______ )
_______Rest In Peace________
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@Sidewalker
...They are attempting to mathematically apply relativity and quantum theory to define the process by which time and space came into being, without considering that you can’t have a process without time or space for that process to occur in.......
SD, glad to see we agree on an eternally existent, dynamically operational, occupied space and finite Universe.
...if nothing exists then there are no states and no principles of laws and it’s impossible to say what might come into existence or how it might occur. ...
I agree SD, except for some facts regarding the eternally existent, cosmically absolute, ex Meta-space principles, as the limits to what is possible for any occupied space Universe to exist ex. ..' There can only exist five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra in Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and any occupied space Universe.
Cosmic absolute Meta-space principles are eternally absolute aka inviolate, irrespective of any concept of any Universe.
... They postulate that the real basis of the physical universe is conceptual or mathematical....
The occupied space Universe and abstract Meta-space, cosmically absolute principles eternally exist in complement to each other. Aka cant have one without the other. Cant have an occupied space, without the Meta-space geometric pattern and the maths of any static or dynamic geometry.
but without a consciousness for the mathematics or concepts to occur in and postulate a cosmology that tells us that in the beginning was a deep mathematical structure that is true by definition and which necessarily existed, and from it the physical universe arose.
The two --Meta-space and occupied space--- eternally exist in complement to each other. Simple, logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion. We seem to agree on this scenario/story/model/concept, at least I hope we do.
Now, according to this thought process, when you apply relativity and quantum theory to the infinite primordial nothing you get a cosmic loophole big enough for all creation to jump through. In a kind of mathematical transubstantiation, there was some kind of quantum fluctuation whereby the numbers took on substance and became physically real...and the physical universe came into existence.
Yeah, R B Fuller contradicts himself in Synergetics, as he his comments suggest and eternally existent Universe, while some of his comments also suggest a manifestation of Universe via cosmic principles. He probably means in complement to each other. His Synergetics books were written in his 70's and he was also very busy flying around the world doing speaking engagments etc.
I would also add, in the last interview with R Penrose I watched, he made it clear, that, this idea of consciousness leading to Universe is backwards. Universe exists and consciousness arises within Universe. I agree with him, if we put aside Fullers definitions of the minimal consciousness as two-ness > other-nerss > aware-ness.
It is just abstract mathematics without any connection to the reality the mathematics is supposed to be representing.
I agree, however, I would make one moot point of clarification. In not possible theory, we could say the abstract Meta-space maths could exist, without the occupied space Universe, whereas on the other-hand, we cannot have occupied space {the medium } without the Meta-space maths and at minimum the static or dynamic, complementary geometric patterns.
Again, that is a moot point, because we an eternally existent, dynamically operating Universe. The one place I believe ive gotten closer to absolute truth, is that, non-quantized and non-quantified ultra-micro Gravity and ultra-micro Dark Energy are Meta-physical, --not Meta-space-- and our physical reality exists in-between those two as Observed Time.
You may think Im being picky, and yes I am, as I believe im exhibiting logical, common sense critical thinking in those picky places i.e. until a phenomena is quantised and quantified, it is outside of Observed Space-time of physical reality, and my other thread recently posted, --tho not this specific part yet-- in 9 = Fluctuation of Quantum Wave.
You may think Im being picky, and yes I am, as I believe im exhibiting logical, common sense critical thinking in those picky places i.e. until a phenomena is quantised and quantified, it is outside of Observed Space-time of physical reality, and my other thread recently posted, --tho not this specific part yet-- in 9 = Fluctuation of Quantum Wave.
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And the first phase it forms is that of a semi-partial 5-fold icosahedron, that, then can develop left and right-skew sets of subdivisions of its surface triangles.
VE = four options of left-right skew contraction, twist/torque ergo spin { spinor? Twistor? } within occupied space-time
1} 4 axi/diameters at 60 degrees to each other { | \ / --- } ergo a Cosmic Euclidean fou-rness of every field of occupied space-time---,
2} 6 square surface openings --24 edges--- 12 cornerss/vertexial points of interference,
3} 8 triangle surface openings ---24 edges--- 12 cornesr/vertexial points of interference,
4} 24 radii and 24 chords --ergo Vector Equilibrium---,
5} transition > 5-fold semi-icosahedron --12 corners/vertexial points of interference--
Think of the following Isotropic Vector Matrix if we used Fullers Euclidean approach of equanimity/balance of all fields of occupied space-time
Then I came along and I say, that, each of the Euclidean lines, --when transformed in Fullers 87 minus the redundant 14 = 73 primary great circles--, I say each is a 3D volumetric torus, and that torus is mapped ----most simple 2D lattice version--- via sequential set of whole rational numbers as a a primary field of occupied space-time.
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@Shila
Tying a knot will prevent the string from snapping. It’s an analogy for building better relationships and communication.
Shila troll --lack of integrity for repsect others personal space, when your asked-- please take a hike from my threads
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@Shila
String snapping must be true. It is happening all around us.
Shila, your just a troll who lacks integrity of respect for others personal space, when they ask for it from you. Please take a hike from my threads
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@Sidewalker
Thank you SD, good stuff all. Hit nail on the head.....etc
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Part One of currently five parts:
Part One of currently five parts:
This is my latest cosmic summary as the... 9 = Fluctuation of Quantum Sine-wave.... plus briefly touching on Peter Woit >< R B Fuller's Euclidean approach to the Operating Systems of Universe aka GUTOEverything. Peter W has been in process of developing more R Penroses spinor and twistor ideas
Peter Woits blog page entry..." There’s been some progress on better understanding the Euclidean twistor unification ideas I’ve been working on the past few years. In particular the relation between the twistor geometry and the “spacetime is right-handed” point of view on spinors is now much clearer to me.
I’ve also made progress on understand how to think of Wick rotation in terms of hyperfunctions, something I’d given up on a while back, but now see how it can work. In the coming weeks/months I hope to get some of this written up, both as some blog posts and as a new paper. "...
Not Even Wrong https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/
Because of its geometrical simplicity sake, I fell in love with Fullers 4-fold Vector Equilirium { VE }, jitterbug contraption many years ago.
8 surface triangles, and 6 surface squares, that allows the 4-fold VE { Vector Equilibrium } to twist/torque left or right on four diferrrent axi. Fuller speaks of his VE jitterbug as the Operating System of Universe and the closet we will ever come to knowing God because it is the perfection of balance of between its 24 surface chords { ><><>< } as systemic enclosure and 24 nucleus extended radii { ---> ---> ---> } as radiant, systemic expansion. etc
The 24 radii only present themselves when the VE is created from the infolding of four circular or hexagon planes of paper etc. See link to graphic B
The 24 radii only present themselves when the VE is created from the infolding of four circular or hexagon planes of paper etc. See link to graphic B
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AI... 'According to current cosmological theories, the prevailing idea is that the Universe began as a result of a quantum fluctuation, essentially a random fluctuation in the quantum field that allowed for the creation of space, time, and matter from what is considered "nothing" - a concept often referred to as the "quantum vacuum" - leading to the Big Bang event that initiated our universe '...
Another version of this above says it has to do with Hesienbergs Uncertainty Principle
The way I always remember first hearing the ole saying was that ...' it was a fluctuation in the quantum wave, that created the Universe '....
I always took wave to mean a quantum sine-wave. I'mm pretty sure ive posted my first version of how I skewed this idea to be funny --not seriously-- via involving bi-lateral consciousness some where in the sine-wave, as the monkey wrench through into the symmetrical system as uncertainty
Ex /\/\/\/\/\/*\/*\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
I want to make clear here again, and as Ive seen in recent interview with R Penrose, that, biologic consciousness does not precede the quantum waves or fields of Universe except in the most simplistic view of consciousness as B Fuller expresses being that of two-ness equals other-ness equals consciousness and then only as and extreme simplicity version.
The two-ness only version would include Gravity as the line-of-relationship between the two individual events of consideration.
(*)()()()(*) where the geodesic lines-of-relationship are Gravity and the asterisks some kind of events that are mass-attracted to each other, whether truly aware of the attraction or not.
(*)()()()(*) where the geodesic lines-of-relationship are Gravity and the asterisks some kind of events that are mass-attracted to each other, whether truly aware of the attraction or not.
Of course this all is a moot point because we can deduce from human observations and logical, common sense critical thinking, that, finite, occupied space Universe cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed eternally. End of that story/scenario, however, there is another scenario/story that, appears to me to make be of a logical, common sense critical thinking nature, based on human observations.
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@Shila
Shila, please go away from all of my threads. You have no integrity of respect for others space, when asked. Go troll elsewhere please.
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@n8nrgim
...so if women know there are lots of men looking to take advantage of them, doesn't it make sense not to dress slutty?
It is not an all black and or all white issue, --I dont mean race-- i.e. it is complex issue. Technicolor of vari-ables
1} circumstances altar cases for men and women,
2} men and women are each individuals within their genetic and family culture --often rebel or test the limits-- and as we grow, we learn what works for that individual or not, depending on the environmental circumstances,
3} wrong place at wrong time does not equate as wrong outfit at wrong time, however, it may and again, the outcomes of many situations are variable with man various factors being involved --not all black and white-- and how man or womam dresses, is just one factor to be considered by the individual, as they move along through their environmental circumstances, they may modify the looks and actions,
4} Men are pushers and women are attractors Bucky Fuller i.e. symmetry and asymmetry of curvy nature is a beauty to men and women. Wider hips in some cultures may be more attractive to men, if they are considering a woman for abilities to bear children more easily ergo safely. True or not.
...4a} Testoterone makes the men ---in general--- to be more pushy, and we come to the old adage, women cry, men fry. Men explode much larger more often than women. Women are have more little explosions to set their boundaries, whereas men keep it and fry their bran/emotion/soul then have big explosion.
B Fuller states something like this.....Universe has two ways of releasing energy. Lot of little more frequent bangs, or less much larger bangs.
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@Greyparrot
"You can only lose if you are playing to win. If your purpose is the pursuit of truth, there is no such thing as losing. There is only growth."
Refinement of the truth to get closer to any absolute principles involved with it.
We orbit the truth getting closer to it via our refining of our defintions of it. Para-phrasing B Fuller.
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@Shila
Shila, please take a hike from my threads. Your ' smog pollution ' blocks light of integrity of a shared integrity of respect for inspiration of conscious expansion in truth.
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Peter Woits blog page entry..." There’s been some progress on better understanding the Euclidean twistor unification ideas I’ve been working on the past few years. In particular the relation between the twistor geometry and the “spacetime is right-handed” point of view on spinors is now much clearer to me.
I’ve also made progress on understand how to think of Wick rotation in terms of hyperfunctions, something I’d given up on a while back, but now see how it can work. In the coming weeks/months I hope to get some of this written up, both as some blog posts and as a new paper. "...
Again, On this above link/page, he early links to mathematician John Baez who've Ive mentioned around here over the years in various numerical ways. I'm always on the lookout for associations to B Fullers Synergetics ideas, and, this left and ' right-handed space-time ' and asymmetry scenarios of Peter Wolts, certainly do that.
Ergo, for simplicity sake, I fell in love with Fullers jitterbug contraption many years ago. 8 triangles, and 6 squares, that allows the 4-fold VE { Vector Equilibrium } to twist/torque left or right on four diferrrent axi. Fuller speaks of his VE jitterbug as the Operating System of Universe and the closet we will come to knowing God because it is the perfection balance of between its 24 surface chords { ><><>< } and 24 nucleus extended radii { ---> ---> ---> } etc
And the first phase it forms is that of a semi-partial 5-fold icosahedron, that, then can develop left and right-skew sets of subdivisions of its surface triangles.
VE = four options of left-right skew contraction, twist/torque ergo spin { spinor? Twistor? } within occupied space-time
1} 4 axi/diameters at 60 degrees to each other { | \ / --- } ergo a Cosmic Euclidean fourness of every field of occupied space-time---,
2} 6 square surface openings --24 edges--- 12 corners/vertexial points of interference,
3} 8 triangle surface openings ---24 edges--- 12 corner/vertexial points of interfernece,
4} 24 radii and 24 chords --ergo Vector Equilibrium---,
5} transition > 5-fold semi-icosahedron --24 coners/verte points of interference
Think of the following Isotropic Vector Matrix if we used Fullers Euclidean approach of equanimity/balance of all fields of occupied space-time
Then I came along and say that each of the Euclidean lines, when transformed in Fullers 87 minus the redundant 14 = 83 primarg great circles, that, I say each is a 3D volumetric torus, and that torus is mapped ----most simple version--- via sequential set of whole rational numbers as a a primary field of occupied space-time.
Within this context, the fields are in the same plane as if were looking from a birds-eye-viewpoint of for orbits around a central point ( (( () )) ) . If the geodesics between specific set of numbers are shown they we would see the curves of the torus. Once we have that torus, we have;
1} two outer peak of positive curvature, here--->( )<----
2} two inner peak of negative curvature ---->)(<----
3} two distinct peaks of neutral curvature also known a Gaussian flat curvature See graphic in this link, scroll half way on the page.
AI..." A torus, or donut shape, has a "flat" Gaussian curvature overall, meaning its total Gaussian curvature is zero, because while the outer part of the torus has positive curvature, the inner part has negative curvature, balancing each other out;therefore, at any given point on the torus, the curvature is not flat, but the total curvature across the whole surface is zero. "..
Recently in listenting Peter Woit, or someone, some one sparked and association to those two neutral flat spaces of Gaussian torus. Damn, that I cant recall that now. May have been a good lead. Anyway here below is the four line --ergo birds-eye-view of four circle plane ( (( () )) )-- view of the 3D, volumetric field of space-time, in simlpler format of a 2D lattice
..1...........5p.7p..........11p...13p...........17p.........loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
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0................6....................12.......................18...loops around to meet itself ergo 2D plane
........3p...............9.......................15.................loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
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.....2p...4............8..10...............14...16...............loops around to meet itself ergo defines a 2D plane
To be clear, the actual minimal set of numbers ---as frequency of nodal events--- may exist into the trillions. I dunno of course. However, I believe any such actuality could be mathematical reduced to be represented as the above set of to the minimal 19 - 18 nodal events. I say 18 because, once this minimal set loops to meet itself the 18 and 0 occupied the same position.
This set 18 nodal events had 153 mathematical lines-of-relationship.
36 has 630 lines-of-relationship
54 has 1431 lines-of-relationship
72 has 2556 and that is the 4th doubling of 18. Just testing a cosmic four-ness concept to see what number occurs.
I choose 18 as minimal set in regards to 13p as the minimal reduced frequency set for Gravities quantum particles the graviton, that I original equate to a truncated di-pyramd ergo, 3 triangle openings, ---9 nodal events total of outer and inner surface {1..2p..4, ..5p...7p...8, ...10...11p...13p} -- that expand and contract in respect to each other, to move forward the internal set of four nuclear nodal events { 3p..6..9..12 } totals
Number 9 acts as semi- free, oscillatory agent-- of the four, primary{ graavitonic nuclei } to the torus, nodal events in sine-wave of reality, as the ' monkey wrench ' called ' fluctuation ' of the quantum wave { sine-wave }, binging, banging, oscillating off the other nodal events inside-the-tube of quantum pulse.
So back in 70's when I first heard the scenarios of what caused Universe to exist --say out of stable quantum field--- was a fluctuation a sine-wave etc.
My above shows imbalance in the minimal gravitonic field to be three nuclear balanced with the three triangular opening sets, and that leaves number 9 as a nuclear nodal event, that is ousted because the three triangle nucleus has nodal event already there { 3p....6....and 12 }.
9 is the free agent, and is reminscent of 7p in other aspects of Universe, but here above 9 is cosmic free agent not 7p.
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@Shila
Shila, please take a hike from my threads started. Your just ' smog pollution ' blanketing DArt with lack of integrity an moral respect for others.
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@Sidewalker
Light travels slower in denser mediums like water or glass compared to a vacuum, because of interactions with the particles within the medium (the refractive index of that medium) but that doesn't impart mass to the particle.
In vid, dude --a student of Brillants info study project on the subject-- says that even fi photon travels slightly/minutely slower than speed-of-EMRadiation, then it will have a mass. Yes, im trusting his interpretation of the info after being a student of the Brillants study documentation he says eh went through.
I agree with your bias against infinite energies, Aristotle showed that actualinfinities is are logically inconceivable. If they did exist, we could not confirm itthrough observation because there would be no way to measure them. If an actual infinity were to exist there isno way for us to know it.
Glad we agree on that, tho Fuller believed in a macro-finite Universe, he was open to feasiblity of micro-ininfinite --ergo eternally-- subdiviision of the macro-universe ergo, mutilication { expansion of universe } via subdivision. OF course he was quite old by the info regarding Dark Matter and Dark Energy and Higgs field came along, and does not mention them in any of his books
Consequently, when science produces mathematical infinities, they represent places where the mathematical formulas break down rather than being in any way referential to reality.
Ergo, re-normalzation so they can sense-ably deal with the math resultants. Again, I do similar thing with Cosmic Pi-Time 66.4
There are supposedly infinite densities at the center of black holes, along with infinitecurvature of space-time, but a black hole is unobservable beyond the event horizon, so any observation impossible, and it is logically inconceivable, so I think the black hole just represents the limitation of knowledge or understanding in the theory of relativity.
Yes, R Penrose receive nobel prize in 2018 or so for his 1963{?} single page paper proving Einsteins math on black holes was correct, however, Ive posted a vid by L Susskind around here a few times where via the string AdS/CFT theory shows ---and leads him to believe-- there is not singularity in black holes.
I never believed in black hole singularities from day I first began to learn about of them back in 80's.
Roy Kerr of of rotating black hole fame says all black holes are rotating, but he his math does not speak to whether there is a singularity or not, so he doesnt say what he believes about that.
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@Sidewalker
"Theoretically" has no meaning aside from according to the theory, so there is no theoretical situation where photons travel at something other than C or has mass.
Apologizes for tagging Barney, as he shown not interest in this topic, as of yet.
Except in some circumstances, not involving there being in a vacuum. That *aside for the moment*, I just like the simple and clarifying approach, as to why he arrived at that --and apparently Einstien and Feynman if not also others--- to keep the abstractions simple { photon has infinite energy }, vs, rather then photon with finite energy of mass { unnecessary complexity arises }.
I would argue **there is no true vacuum** of Universe, as all space is composed of various kinds fields, that, of mass --if not others--- that the photon cannot escape interfering with in Universe. Photons { EM field } do go slower when interfreing with other fields. Ex Higgs field as mentioned. And HIggs specifically involves the mass of fermions, if not some or all bosonic forces.
I am also bias --suspicious-- about any experiments or maths that suggets fermionic matter or bosonic forces have infinite energy.
You recall how Feynman or others invented re-normalization because they could no deal with resultants that stated ' infinite energy '.
As aside, you or others may have noted I used my personal labeling version of ' re-normalization ' in some of Cosmic Pi-Time maths { simple stuff } around here over last few years. Nothing to do with infinite energy issues.
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@Barney
Blepharospasm is a real problem.
Yeah makes it harder to review utube vid. To be clear, Im not the one with the winking issue, in my last message above was not clearly expressed
I sent you a link to you today of a very smartly done --Brillant student-- Speed of Causality vid explained with references. Hope you can find the time, if interested. I love it!
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Got to time stamp 18:40 to begin --the gist of it-- to understand in clear, intuitive way, why photons do not have mass, yet they do have mass, if they travel even minutely less than the speed-of-radiation.
This Brilliant vid, explains the above in three, clearly and intuitive ways, mass { rest }, speed-of-radiation { c = motion }, speed of Causality { C }. If you have the time just go to the time stamp. We presume photons move at speed-of-Causality, because that is simpler, than the alternative reality that--- Einstein, Feynman and others believes exists---, as it is more complex, so why bother, if not necessary to deal with more complexity of space-time.
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@Shila
Shila, please take a hike from all my threads. You repeatedly --ex #12 above-- quote people yet you often dont tag them cause you know it would be toxic pollution to do so.
Please go away and refrain from posting in threads ive started. Your ego's in ability to have integrity of moral respect in regulating your posts for self and others is indecent.
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Sabine Hossenfelder explains why abundance of quantum physicists papers { misleading } leading to huge rise in stocks of Quantum Computer business that are loosing money like an open spicket.
Go to time stamp 4:50, to get the gist of the above and how Googles claim of quantum computers showing parralled Universes only added the misleading hype.
Just before the time stamp is another investor guy Cramer also saying dont invest
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@Barney
Some percent of users named Barney ate ALL the cats in Ohio last night
Barney is a cat eater, barney is a cat eater...Sung to the Ramone's tune ' Sheena Is A Punk Rocker "
Barney is a cat slayer, slayer whoa-ohh-ohh,
Cat Eater, cat eater nahh-ah-ah
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The first one you click on yellow squares to get info
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This 2dn one enlarge image to see more closely each item
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@Lemming
But if people refuse to desist harmful actions of certain magnitudes and frequency,
Agreed circumstances alter case is an old saying that is valid
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@Shila
Shila, please take a hike from all of the threads Ive started, as your primarily a toxic troll polluting DArt who lacks integrity of moral decency and respect as well as self control { regulation }/moderation.
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@Lemming
Education is one factor to be considered ---i.e. what does person know about what they ingest---
Environmental circumstances ---i.e. various cultures have various reasons for what they ingest----
Laws can be used in various ways ---i.e punishment { negative blame only }, educational assistance{ positive } and rehabilitation { positive} etc to aid in making a better citizen{ positive } not a worse citizen{ dumb idea or resultant } ---
Repeat offenders requires more in depth consideration ---more complex considerations require more complex { ongoing } or simple { final } resolution to stop the repeating offensive danger/damage to fetus/baby and pregnant woman---
Such laws apply to any individual as much as the fetus/baby ---i.e. singling out pregnant woman over any individual is unfair, as pregnant women are human beings as are all other individuals with all of the common environmental, culture etc circumstances----
Fetus/baby is organism of the pregnant woman, not a seperate/independent human individual, and those who attempt to suggest otherwise are immoral{ in error } to do so
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@Sidewalker
Will you look at that ebuc, even Shila thinks he's dumbass obnoxious troll
Yeah, I agree with you. Ive reported him a few times and nicely asked to take a hike from all of my thread. He has no integrity of moral decency.
I forget who the moderater{s} are now, tho I seem to recall of one them sometime back, saying they were going to let DArt just go into free fall, chaos aka anything goes, within the limits of internet guidelines.
So DArt Shila is just a sympton of DArt going bye bye. The owner doesnt have time or interest anymore and no one wants to buy DArt, or do anything keep it from trolls.
However, I do think someone is keep the spam in check. Ive reported those on regular basis. So at least this DArt has not been overun.. Thank you whomever your are for keeping the spam in check. It my br origami. I dunno
However, I do think someone is keep the spam in check. Ive reported those on regular basis. So at least this DArt has not been overun.. Thank you whomever your are for keeping the spam in check. It my br origami. I dunno
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@FLRW
Its Woit
Yes thank you. Here is the Susskind vid I mentioned. ..' teh crisis in string theory '... that I spoke to already, and Susskind does somewhere in this vid. Sorry dont have the time stamp off-hand.
Susskinds conclusions are all based on string theory for the most part and the conclusion is AdS/CFT Time Stamp 6:02 or just google it.
1} AsD is Anti-desitter space and leads to holographic ideas and a boundary of space and micro-infinite subdivision ---Fuller believed in that option for macro-finite Universe--- time stamp 3:30--
...String theory conclusions of Susskind is the one above ^ and the one below v See time Stamp -----
2} Conformal Field Theory { CFT } is aka deSitter space and the one we live in and it has no boundaries of space ---time stamp 4:00--
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@Sidewalker
...but I can't find a link about him being a Unitarian Minister, but I'm pretty sure he was.
SW, If you do find a link to any info of Fuller being a minister, I would be interested in that source for sure.
Im familiar with all the other stuff you mentioned.
I think you are making a distinction between Transcendentalism and Spirit that is a false dichotomy, Transcendentalism is a form of Spirituality, and Fuller's entire philosophy was implicitly spiritual.
I posted the quote from some site about the spirituality transcendentalisms connection. I embolden the word spirit to make the point of the word spirit there, cause as I stated, I dont recall Fulller every using the word spirit in any of his books. At best, he may have used the word spirit, in reference to something other than himself in those regards. At least in all that Ive read of his books, or audio recordings.
I think of much of his action and thoughts being of a spiritual nature, just as you do. Just he never states that himself, to best of my knowledge.
I think of much of his action and thoughts being of a spiritual nature, just as you do. Just he never states that himself, to best of my knowledge.
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@Greyparrot
Also, the FBI is too afraid to orchestrate anymore domestic false flags. This is what happens when democracy wins.
Denial of truth makes you look.......Same old same old. Please come back when you have something of significance to offer us. Old news
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@Sidewalker
Buckminster Fuller was a Unitarian minister. and he wrote a lot about spirit and spirituality:
Really, ive never heard any of that before. SD, do you have source for statements?
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@Greyparrot
newsflash, Democracy won.
Yes, that is partly true --by 2 million 330 thousand votes--- however, beyond that your always in denial of the whole truth. Old news
Next four years is going to be interesting to see how much more of democracy is going under the bus of integrity of moral decency.
We dont see nutters attacking white house today, and I doubt we will see any on Jan 6, because, the chief nutter in charge won the democratic vote, without all the nuttiness we had when Trumpet lost. Old news. When your actually want to leave your shell of denial, please come back. Otherwise, same ole same ole from you is like a a 6 year old wants to throw a tantrum banging their fists at truths, when presented to them.
We dont see nutters attacking white house today, and I doubt we will see any on Jan 6, because, the chief nutter in charge won the democratic vote, without all the nuttiness we had when Trumpet lost. Old news. When your actually want to leave your shell of denial, please come back. Otherwise, same ole same ole from you is like a a 6 year old wants to throw a tantrum banging their fists at truths, when presented to them.
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@Greyparrot
Subverting democracy with fake accusations is a lot more than indecent.
Yeah we all know Trumpet and MAF & DA immoral "subverting democracy " escapades too well after Biden won the election. Old news.
Now were waiting to what new immoral escapades these nutters will put onto the USA peoples. Your living in your own head of denial of obvious well know Trumpet / MAF & DA truths. Old news
Now were waiting to what new immoral escapades these nutters will put onto the USA peoples. Your living in your own head of denial of obvious well know Trumpet / MAF & DA truths. Old news
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@Greyparrot
In today's corrupt system, getting thousands of unsubstantiated claims is a brag, not a bug.
Seems Trumpet has plenty of bragging rights now that he is president twice. The next four years going to be interesting. We shall see how much more indecency will occur with Trumpet and those around him. Or not.
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Troll Hole Ahead
..ebuc...
Troll away the day,
Troll away does not pay
Troll my ass
Troll surfing in our grass
Troll eats all light
Troll is a blackhole blight.
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@Mharman
Shiila Is A Bot Flyer { sung to Ramones tune Sheena is a punk rocker } LINK
...ebuc....
Shiila is, a bot flyer, Shiila, is a bot flyer,
Bot bot, bot flyer, whoa oh oha oh,
Flitters to left, flitters to the right,
Flitter all around, and never settles down.
Shiila is, a bot flyer, Shiila is, a bot flyer,
Swimming in the brine, got no real shine,
Slides to your gut, then outta your butt,
Shiila is, a bot flyer, Shiila is, a bot flyer
Infection skin deep, thinks your a human sheep,
Warble on high, heel down low,
These intense gadflies, never let your go.
Shiila is, a bot flyer, Shila is, a bot flyer,
Whoa oh oha oh, noa oh oha oh.
Dot dot, dot dotter.........dot dot, dot dotter.................
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Its a bird pooping, its a plane exhausting, its a dot dot, dot dotter.............whoa-ohh-o-ohh
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@JoeBob
Wife always does this.." Americans eat black-eyed peas for New Year's to bring about good fortune in the coming year.
But that's the short answer. The long one involves a shared family tradition that celebrates the legume's prosperous legacy in Africa and the Americas. ...
But that's the short answer. The long one involves a shared family tradition that celebrates the legume's prosperous legacy in Africa and the Americas. ...
....."They're gonna be savory," he said. "They're gonna — definitely gonna — go over white rice."
The chef of Atlanta's popular global soul food restaurant "Oreatha's At The Point" said the beans were a part of how his family brought in the new year when he was growing up in Chicago. "..
The chef of Atlanta's popular global soul food restaurant "Oreatha's At The Point" said the beans were a part of how his family brought in the new year when he was growing up in Chicago. "..
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..." Like the transcendentalists, Fuller rejected the established religious and political notions of the past and adhered to an idealistic system of thought based on the essential unity of the natural world and the use of experiment and intuition as a means of understanding it. But, departing from the pattern of his New England predecessors, he proposed that only an understanding of technology in the deepest sense would afford humans a proper guide to individual conduct and the eventual salvation of society. Industrial and scientific technology, despite their disruption of established habits and values, was not a blight on the landscape, but in fact for Fuller they have a redeeming humanitarian role. "...
Fuller never used the word ' spirit ' in any of his books that Im aware of.
..." Transcendentalism is a philosophy started in the early 19th century that promotes intuitive, spiritual thinking instead of scientific thinking based on material things.
Transcendentalism comes from the Latin word transcendere, which means to "climb over or beyond." Founders of the American transcendentalism movement were indeed trying to "climb beyond" traditional empirical thinking, favoring instead a person's intuition and natural spirituality. Ralph Waldo Emerson, a famous transcendentalist, summed up the beliefs of transcendentalism when he said, "What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." ..
Transcendentalism comes from the Latin word transcendere, which means to "climb over or beyond." Founders of the American transcendentalism movement were indeed trying to "climb beyond" traditional empirical thinking, favoring instead a person's intuition and natural spirituality. Ralph Waldo Emerson, a famous transcendentalist, summed up the beliefs of transcendentalism when he said, "What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." ..
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@Shila
Non-sensible vs sensible
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Macro-infinite, true nothingness of non-occupied space exists = Common sense
Finite, dynamic, eternally regegnerative, occupied space Universe{ @ } = sensible
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Creator fantasy God of Universe = non-sense ( * G * )
Eternally existent finite occupied space Universe { @ } = sensible
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1} Absolute truth = sensible
2} Relative truth = sensible
3} False narrative = non-sensible --except in some special-case circumstances--
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..." $5 million verdict in sexual abuse case against President-elect Donald Trump upheld by appeals court"..
Trumpet > Gaetz > etc
.." And it seems he’s eager to pack the White House with people just like him.
Four of president-elect Trump’s cabinet-level nominees have faced serious allegations of sexual misconduct, ranging from workplace sexual harassment to assault, and a fifth is embroiled in a sexual abuse-related lawsuit.
As Americans brace themselves for Trump 2.0, it’s time to be clear-eyed about the Maga machine: a history of alleged sexual criminality isn’t a bug, it’s a central part of the hardware; an organizing principle that clarifies how Trump and those like him view their power and how they intend to wield it. "..
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..." In the United States, the president is singlehandedly responsible for the decision to launch a nuclear weapon. They are not required to consult with anyone, and no one carries the authority to stop a legal launch order once given.
....This system of control (known as “sole authority”) isn’t the only way to handle launch decisions. Other officials could securely be included in the decision, providing checks and balances and a basic defense against mistakes, accidents, miscalculations, and recklessness. "..
..."Currently, 800 nuclear-tipped missiles in the US heartland are kept on “hair-trigger alert.” If sensors show an incoming nuclear attack that threatens these missiles, it’s US policy to alert the president, who would need to order their almost immediate launch to prevent them from being destroyed—before the attack is confirmed as real. "...
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@Shila
Shila, please take a hike from all threads ive started. Your primary goal is to add toxic pollution to DArt.
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@FLRW
FL, I can only speak to what Ive heard and read. Today was first time I heard anything about Peter Wolt.
If you want to watch the vid --as Ive done as well as years of following many of these other ideas---, and then form oppinion, that is of critical viewpoint may have more significant relevance. I dunno, except what I saw in the posted vid.
I posted Leonard Susskinds recent take on string theory { Wittens founder of M theory }, ---where his head has been for many years tho from ADF/ASF whatever -- and I think he was also acknowledging in that vid ---posted not that long ago by me-- the dead end string theory alos leads to, without experimental evidence of GUTOE, and because ultra-large set of scenarios that could possibly be a a true/correct GUTOE.
Hey, maybe this new google - NVIDA processors will someday run millions or billion etc of string theories and find the a correct GUTOE. Who knows what the future may bring.
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@FLRW
I have been calling for a radical rethinking of our foundations.
FL, watch the beginnings --or there-abouts-- of the vid, He explains how the foundations of standard model were created in 1973. They work just fine to this day.
Then later he goes on to say how those two men who created the foundations of the standard model, went on to try create GUTheory of Everything and when they realized it didnt work, they acknowledge it didnt work and moved on. Unlike most who dont acknowledge their GUTOE has not been validated.
Then later he goes on to say how those two men who created the foundations of the standard model, went on to try create GUTheory of Everything and when they realized it didnt work, they acknowledge it didnt work and moved on. Unlike most who dont acknowledge their GUTOE has not been validated.
I think I mentioned some of this in first post. There is absolutely no empirical/experiment evidence to validate any of the GUTOE's in 50 years now, ergo, there is known fundamentals of GUTOEverything. Peter Wolt is younger --much more of some maths to deal with { I presume }-- and has kinda of taken over where R Penrose stopped --if not also others--.
Peter Wolt is well educated person. Here is his blog. Look the math is extremely complicated and the link in #1 he is attempting what was his most recent general outline, that, ends with his just dipping our toes into the complicated maths. The maths are of course way beyond my non-mathematical mind. However, Ive followed many of these GUTOE's over the years --including Penrose spinor twistor ideass-- so I can at least follow the general story and that is all he is doing for the most part
Peter Wolt is well educated person. Here is his blog. Look the math is extremely complicated and the link in #1 he is attempting what was his most recent general outline, that, ends with his just dipping our toes into the complicated maths. The maths are of course way beyond my non-mathematical mind. However, Ive followed many of these GUTOE's over the years --including Penrose spinor twistor ideass-- so I can at least follow the general story and that is all he is doing for the most part
On this above link/page, he early links to mathematician John Baez who've Ive mentioned around here over the years in various numerical ways. I'm always on the lookout for associations to B Fullers Synergetics ideas, and, this left and ' right-handed space-time ' and asymmetry scenarios of Peter Wolts, certainly do that.
One of the gists of what Peters math is doing is seems to be a way to connect Euclidean { static } with Minkoski { see Einstein in those regards }.
I read Penrose ' Emperors New Mind ' back in the 90's and skimmed the Minkowski stuff, and of course it was way way way beyond my simpleton math abilities. Without watching the vid, your probably not have much of significant relevance to add in the thread. I dunno.
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@Canadaparrot
That doesn't answer why she sucked so badly.
Best of luck in getting the answers you want to hear.
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Professor Peter Wolt...' Not Even Wrong ' ---Wolfgang Pali was fist to ever say that--- book has this recent 20204 sept-oct interview with theory of Everything dude called ' Forgotten Geometry '. Think Penrose Spinors and Twistors.
To get to gist of it, I suggest go time stamp 1:14:44. Soon after that, however, to understand why this intelligent professor went off this way, the first hour in lays generally the 50 year history of Grand Unification Theories, and how they all of failed, tho most dont admit such.
So his basic idea, is that --and he puts it in bold--- is that classical space-time is right-handed--- and this is in in the catagory of asymmetrical Euclidean geometry, whereas the left-handed quantum field theory is this internal --not the whole-- of Minkoski space math.
Peter Wolt is still constantly developing the math of vectors --magnitude and direction { a momentum? }-- and is attempt to do this Euclidean space { that
normally has not direction ergo not a vectorial i.e. strictly static representation}, and all of this is within 3D { XYZ } plus time.
If your into the theory of everything, even the dude who hosts this website utube, fines this the most interesting approach after 50 years of failure in all other GUT theories of Everything. Again, his opening outline is in three parts starting with history. If you can do the time stamp above, and onward, you may find some or enough satisfaction.
Since he connecting Euclidean and Minkowski I find this approach more inline with my ideas than that of string theory.
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.." Bifurcations: The Path to Chaos..." --see Fiegenbaum constant 4.669....
Bi = two ergo, as left and right > spinal chord has bilateral { left and right } set of 31 nerves in some animals > mammals
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The Meta-space fantasy of a creator God of our finite occupied space Universe only occurs with the complex humans { Xx - Xy }.
Truth is my Meta-space religion and being truthful to self is half-way to sanity.
Integrity of moral conviction that includes the ecology that sustains humanity is perhaps the other half of a wholistic sanity
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@Canadaparrot
Why did Harris suck so badly?
0} your assessment is incorrect, when considering the word "badly " ---2.3 million votes-- is relative to all other USA presidential elections and each of those have their specific set of circumstances,
01} ..." How Many People Didn’t Vote?
Close to 90 million. According to data from the University of Florida Election Lab, approximately 245 million Americans were eligible to vote in the 2024 general election. "...
I can only offer you many of the ideas, that, I believe you can find on line ex,
1} a woman,
2} woman of color,
3} mixed race woman,
4} shorter than normal prep time,
5} Fascism --ergo Trumpet and MAF & DA has become popular globally
..this is resultant of increasing security and scarcity of resources, andclean fresh water on Earth is at top of that list, yet so few humans are aware of this---
6} other Im not considering
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@Lemming
Europa Or Bust
..ebuc..
Icy crust above, cold oceans beneath,
Hidden treasures to find, perhaps a soul and a mind.
Europa doth bequeath, several meters so deep,
A darkness I presume, atop some heated legumes.
No not do I, as we wave the ship goodbye,
A clipper so fast, running on Gravity and gas.
Not to the stars, just a planet, not far,
Moon beams we light, in hopes of cosmic delight.
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