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@Athias
Read through my statements--a tall task, I know--and not just respond to a single snippet after joining the discussion late. I explain the reasons for my statements.
I was reading through, and that comment stood out to me, cause I had just listen to Fauci snippet addressing what your snippet seemingly was saying.
They were opposites and I trust Fauci more than I trust your oppinion. You may even have a long list of web sites that support your conclusion, that,
....." my argument is that
vaccines which claim to "prevent death" cannot be proven to serve this
effect because there's a necessary lack of observational data ".
Not according to Fauci. What I know? Fauci and Anthias. Who do I trust more. Obviously it is Fauci over you and my guess any web sites you have to offer.
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@secularmerlin
I said it was unclear to what degree the animals are motivated by revenge.
Copy that.
Eye for and eye may translate to an eye beyond the directly immediate two, or more parties involved.
This evidence of more complex access to mind/intellect/ego etc, ergo, the human animal, as previously stated.
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@secularmerlin
There are a whole host of articles like this about crows and elephants trainers have long known that their charges apparently remember someone who has done them injury and react aggressively.
Ok but that is a little differrent from and eye for and eye, when the human takes the eye/life or some one other than who did them harm i.e. the peson takes eye/life of some one close to the person who has offended them by taking their eye/etc.
Ex you a person takes another persons purse, so that person then goes and takes the other persons wifes purse etc.
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@secularmerlin
Well elephants and crows are both known to hold a grudge but it is unclear to what degree they are assigning guilt.
Ok, that is news to me.
..." a persistent feeling of ill will or resentment resulting from a past insult or injury.
............"she held a grudge against her former boss".............
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@Athias
..my argument is that vaccines which claim to "prevent death" cannot be proven to serve this effect because there's a necessary lack of observational data.
This sounds nutty to me.
Fauci, on the news just this morning, was referencing vaccine charts that estimate the number of deaths or infections from a range of pathogens and the range of vaccines used, historically.
What we have is people trying to create a false narrative as the ' new truths ' over all other accepted truths and never were truths. Nutty is becoming more and more prevalent globally. We appear to be entering a new dark age for humanity.
..."“The dark
ages still reign over all humanity, and the depth and persistence of
this domination are only now becoming clear. This Dark Ages prison has
no steel bars, chains, or locks. Instead, it is locked by misorientation
and built of misinformation.”
Featured in: R. Buckminster Fuller Quotes
Carl Sagan also arriving at modern ' dark age ' sooner, rather than later as stated in one or more of his last published books.
Mind over matter is one thing but ego over rational, logical common sense, based on evidence, is another
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@secularmerlin
(You will notice my focus is on protecting the public and not on punishing the guilty).
' eye for an eye ' leaves whole world blind? eye} ( * ) > ( ) {no eye
Do any animals, other than human, practice the above policy? I dont think so.
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@sadolite
Everyone's offended by something, give everyone a gun and last man standing wins. we will call it the "Cancel the whiny human race event."
LOL, thanks for that one Sadolite. Humanity gets whats coming to them aka karma, for sure. :--))
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@secularmerlin
Industrialization made the world wealthy not capitalism
Free market has led to ecology that is under attack from unfettered industrialization.
All systems of government have attempted to compete with the free market system, and they have not won out in this race.
The competition has led to other nations systems of operation to cut ecological safe guards.
This spiral to the top { winner } is leading a spiral to end-date-for-humanity 2232 { approx. }.
Mind access to intellect/concepts leads to technology ergo industrialization.
Mind access plus heart{ feelings/empathy } does not appear have been prioritized enough to prevent the end-date-for-humanity, later instead of sooner.
True, that, humanity survived the Mutually Assured Destruction years. That was a positive sign. It is now countered by a new set of truths being led by the false narrative as truth.
The individual seeks to live a longer life.
Humanity ignores processes that lead to longer life span for the species. Go figure. ego} * i * {ego appears to be running the human species.
Perhaps this is defect of an operstional systems of a genetically inherent, lop-sided, bi-lateral brain .
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@Ramshutu
Stop tagging me in this stuff
Sure thing Ramshutu, I wish you would have stated that in your previous post aka clarity.
Sorry to hear the truth leaves you bent out of shape { Meta-space } so much. Hope you get better soon.
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@Ramshutu
But with such fine tuning, laws of physics and math that seems to be created.
Universe is the way it is because that is what works for structural and systemic integrity.
Fine tuning is what is mind-accessing humans discovered, not what was created. Finite, occupied space is eternally existent.
All else is irrational, illogical lack of common sense. See 1st law of thermodynamics a conclusion arrived at in 1800's.
It is 2021 and there is no new evidence that invalidates the 1st law of conservation.
God/Universe are synonyms. All else is religious fundamentalism that is a false narrative non-sense.
That type of thinking only hastens and/or reinforces the end-date-for-humanity 2232 { approx. }
Soul/biologic are synonyms.
3 + 3 = 12 syneregetically
1 + 1 = 4 synergetically
2D + 2D = 3D syneregetically
Motion potion { lotion } + frequency = finite sets of observed time , and, is associated with sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/ frequencies
Conceptual time is the quantitative values ---1 inch per minute etc--- we humans apply to observed time.
Spirit-1} Absolute cosmic Pi-time is 66.4
------conceptual line-of-demarcation-------------
Spirit-2} Observed time comes in many differrent values.
Spirit-3 is ultra-micro Gravity ( )
Spirit-4 is ultra-micro Dark Energy )(
The truth never ever set us free from Universal cosmic inviolate truths and, only sets us free from relative truths for shorter, or longer, finite periods of times.
The truth exists for those who seek it, and,
...........for those who those who want to deny it, because their not interested in truth, for whatever reasons.
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@Ramshutu
@Double_R
you'd agree that 3+3=6 and can't equal anything else
Ive presented the synergetic alternative, ---and just as valid-- answer many itmes here DArt and the former Dart
1 triangle + 1 triangle = 4 triangles, synergetically LINK
This above can be done with pencils, pens, coat hangers etc by a child.
When 1 + 1 = 4, via synergy, then 3 angles + 3 angles = 12 angles.
4 triangles = 12 angles
So the question then becomes, what is ' real '. With the synergetic example given above, we have three lines plus 3 lines = 6 lines, and that part does not change.
What also changes ---besides angular orientation--- is that synergetically we have gone from 2D { area only }, to 3D volume, and the integral connecting { touching } of two seperate triangles. Fuller liked to give the example of synergy in ' real ' world of iron with some value of PSI { pounds per square inch } and some other element { I forge which one } with another PSI, and the sum of two PSI values would add to some value ---say 15---, but in ' reality ' their sum value PSI was 20, 25 or whatever, i.e. whole PSI was greater than the sum of their two PSI parts.
So are lines more real than angles? 3 lines + 3 lines = 6 doesnt change
Yes lines are more real than angles { Meta-space } aka Metaphysical-1 angles. However, angular orientation does appear to effect the physical flow of air, water etc. However, Meta-space angle alone --without occupied space medium--- is irrelevant. " U "niverse is inclusive of two fundamental aspects,
Spirit-1, Meta-space angle and,
---conceptual line-of-demarcation-----
Spirit-2 occupied space.
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@zedvictor4
Just an observation of reality, so I'm not sure what it is that I am supposedly denying.
Sorry Zed, that was not meant to imply you were denying anything. Just letting you know ab out the comey rule movie. Again sorry for tee confusion. My bad
I believe everyone trusts some one, sometimes in their lives, so that part was for 3Ru
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@3RU7AL
@zedvictor4
i only trust myself
I dont believe that. Your in denial is my best guess. By the way, new Netflix movie out called " The Comey Rule ". Very interesting stuff I never knew happen with Comey and Trump.
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@Ramshutu
@oromagi
". The Comey Rule " movie is first I heard any of this. The movie is now showing on Netflix, but it is produced by Showtime. Good Flick. All will like it.
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@secularmerlin
I agree that we are finite but end of days claims are historically common place. I don't think anyone knows when it is coming.
We are each finite individually. Humanity most likely finite ending time on Earth. The realistic assessment, is that it will be sooner --2232 { aprox. }---- rather than later 7 million years from now. My prognostication approach used some cosmic values, that, which resultant was equal to the human population on on Earth, around 2015.
So I can understand why some would say, that 2015, should be the end-date, and here we are at 2021. So my 210 years was and add-on based older, native american indian wisdom.
Sure nobody knows yet some of us like to be realistic. Ex enough humanit thought that M.A.Destruction was pretty dumb to continue, and alot of those stupid things ended ex 24 hr bombers in the sky with hydrogen bombs. How close to the end were we then? Close enough that there was large public outcry.
What
is a realistic view of humanities future existence on Earth? Does anyone really see positives that would change my prognostication?
Is there
some special pass card from God/Universe that allows humanity to exceed
however many billions of people ---500 billion-- within some period of time on Earth?
No is the correct answser. Maybe there is some prognostication formulae that shows humanity going forward with some amount of people some amount of years. If you have not watched this video, I think it is a good conclusion about mind accessing creatures, like humans.
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@RationalMadman
One point you have to firstly absolutely concede was that the Spaniards blackmailed their colonised into Christianity in a way that the Brits opted out of doing.
I did not read any recent material that totally agreed with the programs assessment Ive believed to be the truth. Maybe Brits treated indians better than Spaniards. I dunno.
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@RationalMadman
do you understand that your source is a Santa Fe Motel?
My understanding, from the program I mentioned, is that overall, the Spanish were more humane towards the N American indians than were the British.
On that point we disagree.
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@secularmerlin
Well I'll be dead by then; but that is still a sad thought; but I'll never find out if you are right.
Sad = negative, however, some of us like to be realistic.
What is a realistic view of humanities future existence on Earth? Is there some special pass card from God/Universe that allows humanity to exceed however many billions of people within some period of time on Earth?
“The dark
ages still reign over all humanity, and the depth and persistence of
this domination are only now becoming clear. This Dark Ages prison has
no steel bars, chains, or locks. Instead, it is locked by misorientation
and built of misinformation.”
Featured in: R. Buckminster Fuller Quotes
Carl Sagan, in published book ---The Dragons of Eden?-- also speaks of humanity in or entering a ' dark age ', ergo has similar dire consideration for humanities future.
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@SkepticalOne
Simply put, there is no right to use the body of another without consent.
havoc and their like are guilty of inciting and comminting virtual rape of women and should face criminal charges.
Medical decisions are a private matter. Abortion is a medical procedure. As such, abortion is a private matter.
These immoral criminals are not interest in morals, fairness, justice or womens rights of privacy. There only interested in creating a false narrative and create a false set of new truths ergo,
End-date-for-humanity 2232 { approx. }.
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@secularmerlin
Definitions are in the end arbitrary though useless unless agreed upon a priori.
False narrative is becoming the new set of truths for humanity, ergo, end-date-for-humanity is 2232 { approx. }.
So definitions may become irrelevant, to who convinces who ---overall in society--- of what the truth is.
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@RationalMadman
Can you imagine if Tucker Carlson said 'fake news' while being president?
False narrative is becoming the new set of truths for humanity, ergo, more evidence for an end-date-for-humanity 2232{ approx. }.
Greed, ego, and power ergo stupidity is leading to end-date-for-humanity sooner, rather than later.
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@RationalMadman
Part 4: '" The Spanish attitude toward the Indians was that they saw themselves as
guardians of the Indians basic rights. The Spanish goal was for the
peaceful submission of the Indians. The laws of Spain controlled the
conduct of soldiers during wars, even when the tribes were hostile. The
missionary’s role was to convert the Indians to Christianity. This would
be followed by the Indians being accepted as members of the Spanish
civilization. However, the exploitation of the Indian occurred
constantly. "
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@RationalMadman
At least we agree on Columbus.
Absolutely, based on this last web-site, it is obvious he was morally deficit, in regards to indians. Again, the program I saw made statements that Spaniards were more humane in their treatment of the indians than British. I still believe that was true, and that certainly appears to be the Spanish Queens intention, irrespective of what boots on the ground --out in the field did--...
Again, Spaniards were there fro 100 years before British. Saint Agustine is oldest city in N.America of the white priviledged society.
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@RationalMadman
Part 3:..." However, the overall relationship between the British and Indians was a
bad one. The two elements which it was based upon could not sustain
cordiality: trade and land occupancy. In most cases the trade relation
was based upon an exchange of furs for trinkets, firearms, and blankets.
When the furbearing animals were depleted the Indians had nothing to
exchange and they became embittered. As for land, the British frequently
attempted to buy land from the natives, but the Indian concept of
ownership and exchange of title was nothing like that of the Europeans.
This difference led to misunderstandings which often resulted in
conflict. "....
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@RationalMadman
Part 2:....." and the English, who came in families, did not inter-marry with the
Indians as frequently as the Spaniards. Like the Spanish priests who
were appalled at the treatment of the Indians, some English observers
also spoke out. Roger Williams,
a Separatist Puritan who came to Massachusetts Bay in 1631, charged
that the English had no right to occupy land that the Indians were
already living on... "
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@RationalMadman
You do understand that is inside Spain right? The Spanish colonists were brutal abroad, in fact most European colonists did their worst sins outside of the country.
May be so. Was just a quick search on the topic. Here another link that is more of the overall perpsepctive what occurred.
..." When Christopher Columbus landed on the island of Hispaniola in 1492, he met natives there. When this was reported to Queen Isabella of Spain,
she immediately decreed that the natives (Indians as the Spanish would
call them) were her subjects and were morally equal to all her other
subjects including the Spaniards themselves.
....They were to be treated
humanely and not to be enslaved, and they were to be Christianized and
Europeanized.
....Columbus violated these decrees from the beginning
and thus he created a tension between Crown policy and behavior in the
field that endured throughout the colonial period. Columbus' first
illegal act was to ship five hundred Indians back to Spain as slaves. "
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@3RU7AL
On the scale of a single family......."totalitarian" ?..."communist" ?....."capitalist" ?
Varies depending on culture of the family.
Spiritual > Love > Integrity > Wholism > all-for-one and one-for-all
FAITH IN CREDIBLE THREAT
Threat to family, threat to survival of human species.
However, a family or smaller group of families can operate wholistic against a threat.
On a whole planet size like Earth, a large enough humanity cannot find the integrity to unify as a wholistic set of all-for-one and one-for-all.
Watch this video and may understand better why mind accessing creatures will always die out on any planet their seed takes hold on. This lady has discovered some of the evidence for some of the oldest life on Earth .
Greed ergo the dumbness of reducing their standard of living, even in face of death of their species. This also a due to a loss of trust to people beyond their immediate close knit collective set of family groups, smaller communities.
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@RationalMadman
This is why I am curious what documentary you watched.
Found this at top of my next google search. My guess is, that this is the one we watched, tho cant say for sure. Seems like is was more than fiver years ago we watch it with them.
Also, ...." People who were enslaved could buy their freedom by obtaining a loan or
by being released from their masters before they died. In some cases,
slaves escaped and sought refuge in jungles and mountains. As the
number of escaped slaves increased, small populations emerged that would
be known as Palenques. Freed slaves who feared being subjugated again began to arrive at such sites. "...
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@949havoc
Do they, now?
Yes, for the most part. One or two examples by you does not change a larger set of truths. Sorry that you want to remain clueless to the larger and more significant to humanity, set of truths.
..." And that is why any mind accessing creatures will always destroy themselves, sooner rather that later.
...It
is called greed and will always keep humans from creating a unified
planet where all are operating with a ' all-for-one and one-for-all
mentality '.
...Any mind accessing creatures
will only choose their higher standard of living, --no matter what---
and that leads to a non-unification of doing the smartest thing for
survival of the whole mind accessing species. So they have to kiss
their asses good bye.
...Better luck next time on some other planet where their seed takes hold to evolve. ".....
Watch
this video and you will come to the same conclusion as the lady and
maybe even my specific, end-date-for humanity 2232 { approx. }.
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@RationalMadman
Can you name the documentary please? I'd like to investigate both the
source's motives and specific claims if I can get hold of them.
I stated in my first post here I cannot recall the name. Our friends show us the video at their house.
I did a general search and gave you a that google link. Did you go through even the first page of links, or open any of them.
I took the info I saw on the TV --might have been some History or Historical channel--- and that had Direct TV. Ive gotta go now.
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@Ramshutu
Whenever you chose between two things; you will always and invariably chose the “most preferable option” of the two.
And that is why any mind accessing creatures will always destroy themselves, sooner rather that later.
It is called greed and will always keep humans from creating a unified planet where all are operating with a ' all-for-one and one-for-all mentality '.
Any mind accessing creatures will only choose their higher standard of living, --no matter what--- and that leads to a non-unification of doing the smartest thing for survival of the whole mind accessing species. So they have to kiss their asses good bye.
Better luck next time on some other planet where their seed takes hold to evolve.
Watch this video and you will come to the same conclusion as the lady and maybe even my specific, end-date-for humanity 2232 { approx. }.
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@secularmerlin
@BigPimpDaddy
Now we throw away enough food to feed the world's hungry because it feels wrong to just give stuff away. It is not wrong though. I do not do worse because you do better. Quite the opposite. Who knows how your life will benefit me in the long run.
Humans, to smart for their britches always leads to dead end irrespective of which planet their seed takes hold on. This lady discovered the evidence of some of the oldest life on Earth in rocks in Australia and she has come to the conclusion, I state above, and have given my prognostication of the end-date-humanity on this planet Earth. 2232 { approx. }.
Watch her video and see what conclusion you come too. Humans, or any mind-accessing creatures, will always out-smart themselves before they destroy the ecological systems that sustain them. The gods could even play betting games to see which mind accessing creatures will last the longest before destroying the ecological system that sustain them.
They will always choose capitlistic systems and that always is dead in because of greed, and inability to come to unified whole smartness to prevent localized dumbness, that only sees personal standard of living always rising, as they destroy the ecology. :--)(--: To smart and too dumb at same time.
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@secularmerlin
What is undetermined is which state they will be in when the box is opened. Quantum physics is counterintuitive.
"counter intuitive" only because we do not know the underlying, ultra-micro mechanisms of existence and I'm referring specifically to Gravity and Dark Energy.
Mapping these two's ultra-large ---ergo ultra-complex--- set of interrelationships, even it were possible, would be beyond any array of quantum computer abilities, is my best guess. Maybe if they ran for a few 100,000 years. I dunno. Is there any race of intelligent beings that would keep a huge array of quantum computers running for 100,000's of years, or longer?
Here is my guess, any intelligent, mind accessing creatures ---like humans--- are always to smart for their britches and go extinct on any Rare Earth-like planet they take hold of in the simple-to-complex evolutionary pathways.
A repeating dead end every time. Watch this lady's scenario, ---on TED--- that is based on some of oldest know life found on Earth, in Australia, that she discovered.
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@BigPimpDaddy
I fail to see how either are humane in any way.
I stated more humane than way the British treated them. You need to go back and reread.
This is simple concept to grasp, for those who don't have mentally blockage to truth and simplicity.
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@RationalMadman
how can a slave buy their freedom? Do you know how much a slave is paid per hour?
That is what the documentary stated. The value is whatever the Spaniards said it was. They were in control of all that involved the slaves so they can decide any value they choose to do. If you were the head honcho Spaniard in FL or Spain etc, you get to figure out that value.
This is not rocket science RM. Even you could arrive at a value for slave freedom.
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@RationalMadman
yeah how were the spanish colonists more humane than the british colonists?
Frm #30...Saint Augustine FL is oldest of the privilidedged ' white ' city classes in USA. The Spanish used slaves but were more humane;
ex a slave could buy their freedom,
become a Christian, the Spanish would conduct marriage ceremonies for
slaves wanting to marry each other and perhaps between slave and
Spaniard.
Whereas the British, who fought to control the Spanish city of Saint Aguustine, were much less humane towards the black slaves.
There is in a historical documentary about Saint Augustine and the above info but cannot recall its name.
The
Spanish lost control of Saint Augustine to the British when three of
the ships to support there soldiers where hit by a hurricane and lost
not too far off shore.
Here fro you RM, is google search. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=spanish+were++more+humane+to+indians+thant+the+british
Columbus was of the white priviledged class of human, but not all white privildedged class is created the same nor do they all share the same set of morals or have the same degree moral integrity adherence to a set of morals.
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@RationalMadman
where is your evidence of this 'humaneness'? Please provide it before spouting nonsense.
That is best of my recall from show I watched with friends, at their house. I never stated evidence of anything.
I stated more humane than British. Please reread as your in error.
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@secularmerlin
Yes but some people enacted colonialism and others had colonialism enacted upon them to their detriment even into the present day.
Saint Augustine FL is oldest privilidedged white city in USA. The Spanish used slaves but were more humanne;
ex a slave could buy their freedom, become Christians, the Spanish would conduct marriage ceremonies for slaves wanting to marry each other and perhaps between slave and Spaniard.
Whereas the British who fought to control the Spanish city of Saint Agustine, were much less humane towards the black slaves.
There is historical documentary about Saint Agustine and the above info but cannot recall its name.
The Spanish lost control of Saint Augustine to the British when three of the ships to support there soldiers where hit by a hurricane and lost not too far off shore.
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@949havoc
I've heard that so many times, yet it is never justified. WHY is he a threat? HOW is he a threat? WHEN was he a threat? Be specific.
CLuelesss ^^ Stop! these brain dead from eating any more brains
Are you sure about that? There are very real consequences today for wrongthink in America.
Clueless ^^ i.e. if only that were true humanity might have a chance to survive beyond 2232. Stop! the these brain dead from eating any more brains.
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@secularmerlin
Everyone should be fed and housed regardless of wealth. This cannot be
accomplished by capitalism because it treats human necessities as
commodities. If you are correct that the poor are poor because they have
poor abilities then by extension you are arguing that they are less
deserving of commodities=necessities=life. No one is more deserving of
life because they have more wealth that is patently absurd and so I must
conclude some flaw in your reasoning.
I agree, but I also believe we need to have birth control, and avenues for plenty of sex of consenting adults and consenting teenagers ---again massive efforts to prevent births--- because we have systemically operational problems for the amount of people on Earth.
We have problem with the religous fundamentalitist types believing it is a sin for humans to not be allow unfettered amount of humans births on Earth, while destroying the evironmental systems that sustain human existence on Earth vs, a rational, logical common sense birth control policy that is in consideration of the ecology that sustains humans existence on Earth.
Humans are too smart for their britches and to greedy and dumb to implement balance operational procedures to keep us from destroying the ecology that sustains us.
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@secularmerlin
@RationalMadman
@oromagi
It was morally abhorrent then as it is now. That doesn't make Columbus other than a monster.
Oldest city in USA is spanish city of St. Augustine in FL. The Spanish treated native indians as humans, even if they did also treat them as slave ex, they would provide marriage services for the indians and other civilized niceties, whereas,
the British did not treat indians as humans. There is at least one documentary of the history of Spanish and British fight for control of St. Augustine and treatment of indians even as British and Spansih were engaged with warfare on land and at sea during this time period.
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@ILikePie5
Strong man Putin { Mafia-Ganster } polls well in Russia >
..> Strong man want-a-be, Trumpet-cult leader and Putin loves and admirers Putin
....> Trumpeteer lackeys admire and love strong men >
......> Religous-cult, Putin/Trumpet zealots act out wreaking havoc, chaos and insurrections in USA
.......> Religous-cult zealots of strong men commit virtual rape of pregnant women
.........> Religous-cult zealots mostly racist, bigots with white priviledge looking for whites only Earth
.......> STOP-the-Steal is largest lie ever created by most immoral president ever
....> Prison-time justice/fairness is only the beginning for Trumpet, and crimminals he pardoned
.> Trumpet in Iowa....' save america '.... small, narrowed minded misdirection
2023 -2026, 8 billion humans on a planet with human induced irratic climate change via Global Warming { Greenhouse Effect }
Humans to smart for the britches, and to greedy and dumb, to make the hard, yet correct choices, to prevent an end-date-for-humanity on Earth, 2232 { approx }
Is there a person, government, business to show humanity the way out of a fairly obvious future?
Putin strong man dictator? Trumpet ' save america '?
Elon Musk { tesla want-a-be }? Sir Richard Brannon?
Jeff Besos? Bill Gates? Mark Zuckerburg?
Carl Sagan { Cosmos }? Bucky Fuller { Dymaxion }?
Albert Einstein { Relativity }?
China?
Maybe a quantum computer --via algorithms and proper data input-- will show the way out of the looming mess before us?
...........space(> * <) i (> * <)space......eternally existent, with the rare bilateral * * consciousness existence, on rare planet coming and going over eternity
What narrative do we tell ourselves along our journey? Is it a narrow minded, special-case local narrative only?
Is it larger more comprehensive mind set that unites a plethora of synergy towards united wholistic mind-set of all-for-one and one-for-all humanity?
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@3RU7AL
....against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,...
LCZ, no use trying to have rational, logical common sense disscussion with this clueless, --long list there--- religious, fundamentalist that believes the virtural rape of pregnant women is a God given right of these immoral zealots.
Their not interested in security ---just look at Trumpets insurrectionist--- and the certainly no interested in privacy since virtual rape of pregnant women is their tell tale signature.
Some of them love and admire the Putin strong man, just as the cult leader Trumpet does. Sad in the head. :---( Go figure. Ganster mafia on board DArt.
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@secularmerlin
I do wonder how you intend to enable laissez-faire capitalism without
the threat of state organized violence such as that provided by a
militarized police force... since you don't believe in violent
suppression of political opposition.
In their mind unbridled/unencumbered capitalism will lead to Utopia on Earth, and all people will see this utopian pathway with clarity, because, our CEO's are the most trustworthy, honest people on Earth.
Well, their at least their more trustworthy than the most lying president ever, Trumpet.
Utopia or Oblivion Bucky Fuller 1969
....' all of the governments of the world could cease to exist, and humanity would continue along just fine '........paraparsing Fuller from somewhere in that book I had for 20 years before giving to a friend.
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@3RU7AL
Why would I make something and expect it to worship me ?
Because a less complex something cannot make something more complex than itself, and just in case that is not a more cosmic principle,
the more complex creator instill fear into the less complex entity, as 2ndary precautionary measure, to insure, that, the less complex entity cannot create and entity as more complex than its creator.
Rememeber computers { robots } special-case ability, are to do an amazing amount of calculations in less time, than any biologic creature.
The more complex biologic creature has more generalized skill set of abilities that are resultant of a more complex consciousness ergo the interplay between heart/feelings >and< access to Meta-space, mind/intellect/concepts.
...............space(> * <) i (> * <)space......
i = Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts ergo ego/identity ---Meta = beyond---
* * = bilateral consciousness
>< = invaginations from diametrically oppossing forces of Gravity ( ) and Dark Enegy )(
space = macro-infinite non-occupied space, that, embraces the occupied space (>*<)(>*<) Universe
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@zedvictor4
Your two main choices are reasonably liberal democracy or oppressive dictatorship.
Either way, if the people { humaniity } do not adhere to a system that places moral integrity set truth values over lies, then end-date-for-humanity remains the same, or even shorten.
There may be another formula involving end-date-for-humanity that, involves truth factor.
This would be a pattern of truth values, sort of like the movie A Beautiful Mind --based on true story of mathematician who slowly loosing his mental faculties
1} pattern tracking of truths being told by politicians, scientists and corporate CEO's with some resultant numerical value,
2} Pi-Cosmic Time 66,
3} three { triangular fix/location },
4} speed-of-radiation,
5} 210 years aka seven generations out/forward
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@Greyparrot
Toot! toot!
Triangular Fix > Cyber-power >< Military Might >< Cult of Personality >>>>>Trumpet > trumpeteer lackey follwers > wreaks havoc and chaos :--((
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@949havoc
When are you going to define virtual rape? Do you even know, or do the words just trip off your tongue. Hint: you're drooling. Ands I'm clueless?Hello, it's a simple question, or are you Joe Biden?
Has any pregnant woman given you their consent to stick your nose into their private parts of their bodies. No?
Sorry judge, I did not know it was a crime ---and morally repugnant--- against pregnant women, to stick my nose in there private part business, without there consent.
Sorry your honor, I believe we dont have enough humans on Earth, to fulfill Gods will and, to make laws that encourage unfettered proliferation of humans on Earth with no birth control, or sex education or other, that, would make it easier to address the facts of the strong genetic drive for humans to have sex after puberty.
' the sex drive is strong Luke skywalker, beware '......
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@Greyparrot
Ill take that as a yes. Welcome aboard.
OGP, it appears to me, that, your train is actually just a merry-go-round for pranksters, out to wreak havoc and chaos on humanity, if not more specifcally USA population. I think your a Putin strong man lackey, just as Trumpet is. You both admire the strong man.
Poly want a Yang-Banger...awwkk! { @..@ }
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@Greyparrot
So it's a yes for the Yang express?
I see above ^^, you say yes. OGP, glad to see your on your Yang Banger express.
..." Huh? You want me to get on your train?
....Orange Grey Parrot has been, and still is in, The Twilight Zone { @..@ } Poly want a Yang Banger...awwkk..."........
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