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@Savant
Wholistic Wealth
1} Financial wealth { $ changing value $ } = who owns the gold ---minerals, fresh water, fertile soil etc--- makes the rules,
1} Financial wealth { $ changing value $ } = who owns the gold ---minerals, fresh water, fertile soil etc--- makes the rules,
2} Social wealth = happiness via connections to others aka a shared experience to empathize togetherness, ( *.. * ) >< ( * v *) >< ( * ^ * )
3} Time = degrees of freedom within our enviroment..... past ( /*\/*\/*\/ ) * i * ( /*\/*\/*\/ ) future......
4} Health = ability to control our personal occupied space and Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego
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@zedvictor4
Large Pendulous Breasts drive Japanese wild
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Go to two time stamps to get our best understanding of a smeared out pattern of the What An Electron Actually Looks Like ' and both of these are taking place within a the field of virtual particle field comings and goings
1} 9:18 that shortly afterwards leads to a triangulation pattern that Ive used over many years to insinuate as a sine-wave pattern ^v^v^v or as /\/\/\/\/,
2} 11: 15 ' vacuum polarization ' gets more into the infinite aspect of charge as we zoom in { observe } closer and closer the eletron
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@MAV99
You call the fertilized egg a "human" and "property" which makes the fetus sound like a slave. I don't think anyone with any common sense or critical thinking skills takes that seriously.
Your confused at best and at worst, lack some abilities of rather simple, logical, common sense critical thinking of pregnant woman the temporary organism of her body, the fetus > fetus/baby.
Your assertion that a fetus or fetus baby is a "slave" is evidence my comments above. A slighted digression into illogical lack of common sense and critical thinking.
Most of biologic life reality is about relative truths, and you show how black and white your pathways of thought.
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@Sidewalker
Some don't even grasp the idea of questions and answers.
SW, if your refering to me, sorry If I missed a question posed to me. Im here for you if you need answers, when I have them to give.
I presented clearly yet another version of my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline and added on the Kung Fu, since your into Fueng Shui.
I suppose we could think of Synergy as a geometric twist on the principles of Kung Fu.
4} Kung Fu..." Basic Principles:
The concept of Kung Fu revolves around three basic principles ñ Motivation, Self-discipline and Time. "
..4a} ' Motivation ' > cause,> effect > Resultant
..4b} ' Self-discipline ' as Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego
...4c} ' Time ' as our Observed -reality- Time { OT } ergo, eternal change, within the eternally existent set of finite { quantised-quantified } terminal periods-of-time, that compose our finite, occupied space Universe. Simple, not complex to grasp.
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@MAV99
the whole question greyparrot presented in this thread is about personhood. He even named the thread that. Here you are speaking of a fetus/Baby as a temporary organism. You then make the comparison to a man's gonads:
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Making any person wonder if you actually even know logic and the requirements to make comparisons in a logical setting. A gonad is nowhere near the same thing as a fetus. different functions, different types of tissue, etc. It is confusing that you are throwing together a bunch of different things to draw comparisons that do not exist and frankly have nothing to do with the central idea at hand: personhood.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Nobody with any logic says a fetus is an organ according to the medical definition of it. Why is this relevant to the topic at hand? Even in the context of property, which is not really the question here, you are still attributing to a fetus what anybody with any logical and critical thinking skills would say has nothing to do with the fetus. Like I said, without knowing what you are talking about, i.e. a definition, how can you say anything logical at all? All you have done is prove my point.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
hat is most certainly debatable, and what is "spiritually based 1st principles"?
Others keeping their virtual and real nose out of pregnants womans bodily business. You stillappear to lack the ability of logical, common sense pathways of thought even with most simple concepts based spiritual principles, morality etc.
So as long as someone gives me consent to murder them, I am acting perfectly moral? Morality is not based on what an individual thinks is right. It is based on the nature of actions and consequences that follow. Do you seriously think anyone in a court of law would get away with murder if they say: "He said I could do it."?
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Once again, because you cannot define and consequently think logically, you are throwing together unrelated things to try and prove a point that ultimately proves nothing. There is this axiom in philosophy that goes: He who proves too much, proves nothing. It means you dodge the question with irrelevant points that you ultimately miss the main point entirely.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
That is debatable, and you give no reason why and this has nothing to do with personhood as this thread is discussing here. Once again you are totally missing the point.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Just because a dictionary has a definition for it does not mean it is a good definition. Maybe if you could think critically you would realize that "personhood: having the quality of being a person" is a horrible definition because all it says is "personhood= personhood". I am not being lazy when I ask for a good definition. If I was lazy I would just take the definition you got from google and use that.
I'll take that as a 'no' by you when asked if you even looked at even on dictionary definition of personhood. You appear to lack some of logical, common sense critical thinking abilities on this issue and if not many others and lazy.
Arguing to define something is a critical part of philosophy. Unless you want to say that all the philosophers who spend hours trying to arrive at solid definitions in order to properly reason about something and make a proper judgement of it, are lazy, I would suggest you study and think about it a little bit more than what you have. Also, I do not think philosophy is semantics. That is more something that happens in law. Philosophy is the science of reason. What a thing is, is the basis of reason. Without it you cannot say anything with a proper judgement. Any solid logician and philosopher would say that.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Do you see what I am saying now? You can sit here all day and say that I am lacking logic and critical thinking and being lazy, but you are only dodging the question and frankly proving my point.
Some truths are self evidence, as this case with you in this disscussion. Lazy and lack of logical, common sense critical thining pathways of thought.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
I am not trying to slam or burn you. But if you can't define and be clear then it is not worth talking to you. Definitions are important. Trying to define something is not being semantical, when you are trying to make a proper judgement of that thing.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Please read carefully, using logical, common sense critical thinking in my post #6. If you disagree or do not understand a comment please share.
A fertilized womans egg ---a human--- is a temporary organism of the pregnant woman, ---her property-- and others should keep their virtual and/or real nose out of bodily business, unless she gives her consent for them stick their virtual or/real nose into her bodily business.
The spermazoa is a gift from the man.
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@Sidewalker
Some do not grasp the idea of a 2ndary symbolism as method of communication, yet it has been used for 30,000 years or more by humans to this day.
Note: The narrow minded need not apply to any of the following set of concepts.
Part 1 - Cosmic Trinity
1 - 2} Creator God of occupied space Universe is a Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual fantasy { spirit-1 } and perhaps stems from ego.
3} macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space that embrace finite occupied space Universe
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Part 2} - Cosmic Trinity
Y = open radial vectors { spirit-2 and 4 } for potential internal structural integrity as/of an occupied space
/\ = chordal vectors { spirit-2 and 3 } as surface 2D structural integrity and the potential for 3D internal structural integrity
\Y/ = chordal vectors { spirit-2 } that embrace and enclose the open internal radial vectors as 2D > 3D structural integrity ---birds-eye-view of tetrahedron--
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Part 3 - transformation
[ ] = { square } lacks structural integrity ergo transformable vectors { spirit-2 }
==== equals a non structural square collapsed into a double-valenced vector{ spirit-2 }
\/\/\/\/\ = deformation of the linear, double-valenced vector { spirit-2 } as and includes potential angular twist in its geometry pattern
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I suppose we could think of Synergy as a geometric twist on the principles of Kung Fu.
4} Kung Fu..." Basic Principles:
The concept of Kung Fu revolves around three basic principles ñ Motivation, Self-discipline and Time. "
..4a} ' Motivation ' > cause,> effect > Resultant
..4b} ' Self-discipline ' as Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego
...4c} ' Time ' as our Observed -reality- Time { OT } ergo eternal change within finite { quantised-quantified } terminal periods-of-time.
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@Sidewalker
Made you look
... " Scientists Still Stumped By The Evolution of Human Breasts
....Primate mothers only develop enlarged breasts during ovulation, whereas human females have them from puberty on "...
.." In humans, pubescent girls accumulate fat around their milk glands, which stays for life and seems to hold sex appeal in every culture. Those permanent, alluring mounds of fat on women’s chests are indeed an evolutionary anomaly, begging for an explanation.
......The Benefits of Permanent Breasts
....Over the years, researchers have proposed a number of explanations for human breasts. Some claimed evolution favored “pendulous” breasts — as scientists dryly describe them — because they gave babies something to cling to like handle bars. "..
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@Sidewalker
The first two words of title of your thread are "Cosmic Trinity", I was just wondering if you were talking about Feng Shui.
You need to read, copy and address any comments by me that you do not grasp clearly. I offer clarity in mosts posts in this thread. I can elaborate if you have the specific comments that need more elaboratio. The refining whay truth becomes more difficult as we approach the absolutes aspects of a truth.
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@MAV99
I am not playing mind games. I don't care for those. You are not being g clear because you are not answering the question.
Then you confused about the mind game your playing. Go my post #6 and copy any comment that is not clearly stated, as you suggest.
I think you and OGP are lazy. Did you ever attempt even attempt to look at a dictionary.
Here is just one of dictionary definition, and it was the first, want to appear on goolge..."the quality or condition of being an individual person.
"the documentary attempts to get behind the icon, to a sense of her personhood"
Logic and critical thinking require knowing what a thing is to make a proper judgment of it. That is the very basis of all logic and critical thinking.
You are the one who lacks the use of logical common sense critical thinking or more likely to lazy.
Two seperate posts in this thread Ive been clear. Address copy and post any of the comments you suggest lack clarity.
You and OGP dont because you too lazy and would rather plan mind games.
What percentage of philosophy revolves around people playing mind games, semantics etc.
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@MAV99
What is the definition of personhood?
Find a dictionary you like and get a definition. Is that going to be the only definition found in all dictionaries?
Try the court systems definitions for personhood, and then check it against every court system in every nation.
Your the one not using logical common sense critical thinking. I was clear. Your want to play mind games.
Turmpet and cult of MAFiA is good at that as are the conservative supreme court justices.
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@Sidewalker
Feng Shui is an ancient Chinese practice of creating harmony by arranging your home certain ways, there's a Cosmic Trinity concept in Feng Shui.It makes Chinese buyers particularly difficult in the real estate market.
Not sure what post your refering too by me. If it involved geometry, then may be the Chinese are into geometry with the feng shui. I dunno.
Most of my geometry interests and came with reading and learning Bucky Fullers ideas. I did watch the tv show Kung Fu back in the day, and even made a two week hitching hiking journey with shave head, rainbow suspenders, cheapo sleaping bag with shower curtain a rope tied around it to keep sleeping bag dry.
One pair of pants, underwear, socks, shoes, and a shirt that didnt wear that much. I was kinda of doing Kung Fu like scenario. Got pretty bad after a few days. I was certainly not the creative type --did try to get work--, and was not a thief type to makes ends meet.
One pair of pants, underwear, socks, shoes, and a shirt that didnt wear that much. I was kinda of doing Kung Fu like scenario. Got pretty bad after a few days. I was certainly not the creative type --did try to get work--, and was not a thief type to makes ends meet.
Like any 2ndary symbolism humans can assign any meaning those symbols they choose. My choice makes logical, common sense critical thinking pathways to conclusions.
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@Sidewalker
Are you referring to Feng Shui?
Huh?
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@MAV99
Is your definition of personhood:an independent individual
Pregnant womans fertilized human egg is human.
Does person = human?
Does person = fetus/baby?
Does person = womans egg that has been fertilized for less than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 milliseconds?
Person and person hood is mind game when it comes to pregnants womans morality of having bodily autonomy i.e. others should keep their nose out of her business unless she gives her consent, other wise, it is virtual rape by other virtual busy body virtual nose.
Trumpet and cult of MAFiA like to play mind games and avoid logical common sense critical thinking, when it comes to morality of truth.
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Part 1 - Cosmic Trinity
1 - 2 Creator God of occupied space Universe is a Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual fantasy { spirit-1 } and perhaps stems from ego.
3} macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space that embrace finite occupied space Unvierse
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Part 2 - Cosmic Trinity
Y = open radial vectors { spirit-2 and 4 } for potential structural integrity as of an occupied space
/\ = chordal vectors { spirit-2 and 3 } as 2D structural integrity
\Y/ = chordal vectors { spirit-2 } that embrace the close off the open radial vectors as 2D > 3D strutural integrity
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Part 3 - transformation
[ ] = { square } lacks structural integrity ergo transformable vectors { spirit-2 }
====== = square collapsed into a double-valenced vector{ spirit-2 }
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@MAV99
The fetus/baby is not and independent individual, until;
1} is is born out,
2} taken its first in-spirited{ inspiriation } of air,
3} and the umbilical chord is severed.
Logical common sense critical thinking often leads to a more refined truth, explanation, conlusion etc.
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@zedvictor4
..."Twenty years after Dumas wrote Les Trois Mousquetaires (1844),
....his signature phrase became the unofficial motto of a young European nation. In 1848, Switzerland became a federal state, uniting a group of cantons whose relationships had often been tense at best, bellicose at worst. As we know all too well, memories of such civil strife are not quickly erased, so when severe Alpine flooding occurred in 1868, Swiss unity was still young and fragile.
....To promote the sense of duty and solidarity that would mobilize citizens to respond with urgently needed relief efforts, the government launched a campaign using the slogan, “One for all, all for one.” It was so successful that the refrain became a central element in Switzerland’s national self-understanding, and its Latin form, Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno, is inscribed on the Federal Palace."...
..." Marcus Aurelius wrote that we should often meditate on the “interconnectedness and mutual interdependence of all things in the universe.”
Here was a guy — a stoic philosopher and Roman emperor — writing and living in the second century and fully understanding that everything is connected.
Push on one element of society or nature and another element of society and nature reacts.
Push on one element of society or nature and another element of society and nature reacts.
Aurelius says, “[A]ll things are mutually woven together and therefore have an affinity for each other — for one thing follows after another according to their tension of movement, their sympathetic stirrings, and the unity of all substance.”
The unity of all substance."..https://commonlywell.com/the-unity-of-all-substance/
..."Numbers can’t speak for themselves
Unstructured data makes it nearly impossible to interpret what’s really going on. So, we convert intangible data into information using models that can show powerful patterns and trends. With visualized information, you’ll have meaningful, actionable takeaways."....
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@Greyparrot
OGP, I was very clear in the post I referenced --#6-- you too last time. If your unclear, copy and paste comment you dont grasp
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@Busisiwe
Creator of an eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe is Meta-space fantasy-land bunk.
Lacks any hint of logical, common sense critical thinking and reaks of religous nutterism's.
.......truly non-occupied.............space.......(>*<)(>*<)..............space......truly non-occupied........
Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intelligent/concepts and ego is also not an occupied space, nor is it a non-occupied space, and we know that it exists via human experience allowing access to it. Meta-space is concepts of space, occupied and non-occupied
A non-occupied space embracing occupied space allows for the expansion-contraction of an occupied space. It also allows for undulation of the occupied space Universe.
Earthling Zoo fly, dont bother me, ....Zoo fly dont bother me.....skip-toodle-loo my darling.....
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@Mharman
Like seriously, who tf says “oh yeah I don’t think abortion is moral because it’s murder, but you can murder your child if you want”
1} The evangelical right has fought against birth control for thousands of years,
2} fertized egg is temporary organism of the pregnant woman, and the spermazoa is a gift from the man,
3} fertilized egg becomes more and more a fetus gradudally, and,
4} gradualy a fetus/baby more and more, however,
5} fetus/baby remains and temporary organism of the pregnant woman until the born-out baby has taken its first in-spirited breath of air, and its umbilical cord cut,
6} until the time, all others sticking their busy body nose into the pregnants womans bodily business without her consent is virtual rape. Get over it and such people need to keep their noses in their own business,
7} put there nose in business of actually preventing pregnancy, some thousands of years after doing the exact opposite.
Earthling Zoo fly, dont bother me, Zoo fly, dont bother me.....skip-toddle-loo my darling....
Earthling Zoo fly, dont bother me, Zoo fly, dont bother me.....skip-toddle-loo my darling....
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@WyIted
4. We are in a type of universal zoo and some galactic empire has ordered no contact with us
I can hear the intelligent extra-terrestrials singing...... ' Zoo ' fly, dont both me, ' Zoo ' fly, dont bother me.....skip-toodle-loo my darling....
Or as Zed says, maybe just whistling a tune of such. Rare Earth was Motowns only successful all white band contract.
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@Shila
Shila, do me a please do me a favor and take a hike from this thread. Please do not respond this message either. Shoo bot fly, shoo away.
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Been one month and no better alternatives offerred. As we approach and orbit and absolute truth, it becomes more and more difficult to refine its definition. Parphrasing Bucky Fuller
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All-for-one and one-for-all is the greatest unifying protection principle aka as a spiritual pathway forward for humanity to to survive and prosper with the least amount of sufferring.
If there is greater spiritual principle for unification of humanity, Im not aware of it, and look forward to seeing additional pathways presented.
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@zedvictor4
@Sidewalker
Zed.....Probably hairy and smelly,....
.." Amazon capuchin monkey, found in central and southwestern Amazon: This small monkey is found in tropical rainforests throughout much of the Amazon basin. They also live with the White-fronted Capuchin: Another, paler species of capuchin is also found in Tambopata but is much rarer than the Brown Capuchin.
This female capuchin is lactating, which is why her mammary glands have increased. "..
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All except Gravity and Dark Energy is limited in space because of;
1} localized Observed Time as quanta,
2} finite set of occupied space parts of a finite occupied space Universe.
Infinite Gravity, Dark Energy exists as potential, not what is feasible, when considering the above
Infinite Gravity, Dark Energy exists as potential, not what is feasible, when considering the above
...............space.....(>*<)(>*<).....space....
All else is fantasy land of sci-fi, sometimes found in religions
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Biologic/soul composed of occupied space spirits of three primary kinds and complemented by Spirit1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Old news to those seeking truth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The truth will set humanity free from religious falsehoods
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Truth is as follows;
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
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@FLRW
AI...' Terence McKenna, an American ethnobotanist, author, and lecturer, was open to the idea that psychedelics could be a form of "trans-dimensional travel". He described a series of hallucinations he experienced while taking DMT, where he encountered intelligent entities he called "self-transforming machine elves". He described these entities as speaking English and a visible language, and jumping in and out of his body. McKenna believed these entities could be dead people, human beings from the future, or beings from a parallel universe '..
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Humans have innate genetic drive function to be productive. How stimulate or shut if off can vary between indivduals.
Carrot and stick or is there other. Ask General artificial intelligence.
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@Greyparrot
See post #6 OGP. Im very clear there if you take time to read, understand and comprehend the concepts.
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The truth will set humanity free from religious falsehoods
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False.
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
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Bot AI is like a virtually annoying knat hovering around our eyes.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=knat+fliesGeneral Adaptive AI { GAAI aka AGI } is likened to the ' Borg ' of Star Trek at its worse, tho my guess is perhaps less ominous than the Star Trek version, depending on whether humans are not paying attention to the GA AI, or because dumb and worse barbaric.
Ergo, the circumstance of my AI can kick your AI's ass punk, so you just have to ask yourself one question.......?.......
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@YouFound_Lxam
A physical bodyA logical mindA spiritual soul
False.
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
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@Greyparrot
Fetus/baby is a temporary organism of the pregnant woman.
Is a mans gonads his ' property '? Of course, depending how legal system defines property.
Are any organs of any humans their personal ' property ', of course they are, depending on legal definitions of property.
Others sticking their nose into pregnant womans fetus/baby business is ' virtual rape '. Keep virtual nose out, unless pregnant woman gives consent. Simple.
Virtual rape stems from religious patriarchal systems of thought, not from spiritually based 1st principles.
1} Do no harm to self or others, without their consent, except in cases of self defense,
2} All-for-one and one-for-all,
3} protect personal property and that begins with the human organism { organs of the humans } and all of the atoms, molecules etc that compose the human organism,
4} Seek relevant truths, to relevant circumstances to the individual and the ecological environment that sustains the ecological environment,
5} Seek regulatory systems --ex GAAI-- that are directed at, and in support of all of the above.
190 independent sovereign nations, is dumb way forward for humanity.
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@Greyparrot
orange AI
Primarily dumb { narrow minded } and immoral. 2ndarily who knows what potential good fruits might come into fruition
Rainbow of colors is more wholistic ergo more synergetically intelligent as well as a move toward an ...all-for-one and one-for-all... spiritually based globally unifying principle. An as analogy to Start Treks ' Prime Directive ' on Earth.
Humans already know that a more regulated auto traffic system would prevent nasty crashes and that was long before AI came along.
AI may offer more options of solutions for humans to choose from.
Immoral and profit only motivated Corp. + General Adaptive AI may offer options that show, that, erratic climate change will lead to greater potentials of massive barbarism, ergo, less profit for the Corp. in long run, if humanity dies off from Earth.
.." Is Cryptocurrency a Safe Investment?
Cryptocurrencies have attracted a reputation as unstable investments due to high investor losses from scams, hacks, bugs, and volatility. Although the underlying cryptography and blockchain are generally secure, the technical complexity of using and storing crypto assets can be a significant hazard to new users. "..
Cryptocurrencies have attracted a reputation as unstable investments due to high investor losses from scams, hacks, bugs, and volatility. Although the underlying cryptography and blockchain are generally secure, the technical complexity of using and storing crypto assets can be a significant hazard to new users. "..
Plus other risks of Cyrpto.
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Golems Dumb <----> AI smart
Go to 17:40 in vid to see Brian Cox { theoretical physicists } answers to the Fermi Paradox, where is the other intelligent life and why advance General Adaptive AI might eschew idea of communicating with biological life forms
Will bilateral GAAI eschew there creatin by bilateral humans and instead go for more for box jellies that have 24 eyes, with various functions for differrent sets of eyes?
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@Sidewalker
.....For behold, the kingdom of God is within you.".....
Spirit-1 as Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego, and complements by Meta-space pattern / geometry, the following;
Spirit 2 { fermionic matter and bosonic forces , Gravity - Dark Energy } as an occupied space biologic / soul / and consequently exist the more complex biologics having nervous system, that, as well as the environment to all biologic/soul life in Universe is also composed of those three primary kinds of spirit.
I have chosen to see and try to understand the Christ beyond the Biblical myth.
Tou'che to yours and all individuals chosen pathways forward on the journey of experience.
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@Greyparrot
lol, so how did we have a civil war if everyone with white skin voted Democrat and supported slavery? (spoiler, they did not)
Your still lying to yourself if not also clueless OGP.
White privledge existed befoer USA civil war, during that civil war, ---except for empathetic immoral treatment of black people--- for many years afterwards and to this day --to lesser degree-- thanks to black peoples loss of life, ---by white people--- spurring some white people to say, enough is enough with this immoral, inhumaen treatment of black peoples, during civil war, and to a greater degree during 50's and 60's.
skin culture is a myth.
Your supporting a false myth is aka in denial or lying to yourself, or cluless or some of all three.
Repeating to yourself and others is what I addressed in post #55.
You have or will become just another of King Trumpets, MAFiA cult members
King......................immorality..........................King
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King....................immorality............................King
All-for-the-king and king-for-their-self is a win-lose scenario. Brain as brawn > barbarism
All-for-one and one-for-all is a win-win scenario. Meta-space mind as compassionate intelligence > wholism
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@Greyparrot
.........but it doesn't negate the fact that skin culture is, and was never a real thing......
Keep telling yourself lies and you will become just another of King Trumpets, MAFiA cult members
King......................immorality..........................King
--------------------------MAFiA-----------------------------
King....................immorality............................King
All-for-the-king and king-for-their-self is a win-lose scenario. Brain as brawn > barbarism
All-for-one and one-for-all is a win-win scenario. Meta-space mind as intelligence > wholism
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@Sidewalker
Bad bot.
Then there is the individuals personal religion, and that is the reality of practice of any religion followers i.e. they make adjustments as they see fit in their daily lives
1} God = the eternally existent, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego--- ex humans who conceptually place their conceptual self outside of conceptually finite Universe as if they exist as a conceptual God looking back in a that finite conceptual Universe, held in its conceptual his/her/their/its hands, ergo fantasy land aspects of the mind as imagination
2} the eternally existent, macro-infinite truly non-occupied space, that, embraces/surrounds the following,
3 } the eternally dynamic { in motion } --aka the only perpetual motion machine--- finite, occupied space Universe, and then begins its three primary subcatagories
....3a} Observed -reality ^v^v- Time{ OT } aka.... quantization and quantification of Fermionic matter and Bosinic forces ..........space.............( ^v^v)(^v^v)..........space....... simplistic concept
.....3b} Gravity ( ) aka positive geodesic of curved space
......3c} Dark Energy )( aka negative geodesic of curved space
Ergo a gross generalization as:
3B}.....space... and Gravities trajectory pulls inward (> <) inward...space.... at just less than 90 degrees to the radial center of spherical composed of tori, and,
3A} ----OT reality exists between outer /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/sine-wave\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/and inner surface set of nodal events------
3C} ....space....Dark Energies trajectory pushes outward <)(> outward.....space.....at just less than 90 degrees to the radial center of a spherical composed of tori
Those two are two, 180 degree opposing phenomena of the same torus.
Note: Ultra-micro Gravity and ultra-micro Dark Energy remain invisible to observation i.e. remains non-quantised and as yet non-quantified.
All else is just the ' bot '-tom-of-the-barrel scraping for a bare minimal set of logical, common sense critical thinking.
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@FLRW
Maybe you or others could imitate him. Begins with defining his charactor clearly, to those who attempt to imitate him.
I sometimes miss him too, other times not cause too abrasive{ ? }. I forget now
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@FLRW
@Sidewalker
The multiverse is the real truth that the Deep State of the Universe doesn't want you to know.
Or, their is deeply dumb lizard people who believe, that, their in communication with other deeply dumb lizard intelligence in another local universe, or set of local universes.
Remember Terrance McKenna thought he was in contact with them. At 2:36 he begins with the ' move into the next dimension '. Later he mentions his ' time wave ' idea, tho this vid does go into his most out their parrallel universe with intelligent creatures.
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God as eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } is logical, common sense critical thinking based on experiences structural and systemic integrity found with all finite occupied space objects, to more or lesser degrees of existence with a time period.
God as creator of eternally existent, occupied space Universe is a Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and basis of some religions, ergo in the following #1 catgory of spirit
1} Spirit-1 is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego ex concepts of creator God, Time, Space, Footballs, Toyotas
---conceptual line of demarcation---------
2} Spirit-2 is the eternally existent { ? } occupied space physical Observed -reality- Time{ OT } --aka observed { * quantized * } time--, as Ferminonic matter and Bosonic forcess, that, aggregate as atoms, molecules substances, terra-ferma, galaxies, clusters of galaxies and Universe { @ }as sum-total of occupied space.
......3} Spirit-3 eternally existent, occupied space Gravity ...(> in )( )( )( in <).........
.......4} Spirit-4, eternally existent occupied space Dark Energy ......outward <)( )( )( )(> outward.......
Biologic = soul --30 souls died on plane crash etc---
Spirit = the above set of 1, 2, 3 and 4 ----motion and its Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual complements
This above is rather simple set, and leaves out that truly non-occupied space that embraces Universe and for the most part, is a moot point.
None have offferred a valid ---logical, common sense critical thinking-- opposing viewpoint that is based on human observations. None never will.
Note: Shila, please do not respond in any of my threads ive started.
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@RemyBrown
Privilege comes in many forms, patterns etc.
When it comes to decaying biologic matter --or other--- bacteria have the most privilege to consume and replicate their species.
When it comes to decaying biologic matter --or other--- bacteria have the most privilege to consume and replicate their species.
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@Math_Enthusiast
A few questions to ponder and discuss:Does the past exist?
Yes, as a set of occupied space and abstract relationships the present
Does the future exist?
Yes, however only based on best understanding the nature of occupied space's eternal existence, flow of time --Observed -reality- Time { OT } via our experiences of the latter
Do abstractions exist?
Yes. Ex unicorns exist as occupied space drawings pixels on a screen etc, that were conceived via human experience, and that humans access to Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual abstractions.
Do thoughts exist?
I think about an occupied space experience ergo I exist as an occupied experience with access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.
If something will never be observed, does it exist?
Does not exist for humans, until we have quantised it. I remains speculative until quantization occurs
If you have heard that something has been observed, but never observe it yourself, does it exist?
It exists as Meta-space mind/intellect/concept via an occupied space humans experience and passed on to another human via communication in whatever method of occupied space transfer of information.
There exists three, primary kinds of cosmic existence, with the #2 being a moot point of existence:
1} eternally existent, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts aka abstractions,
1} eternally existent, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts aka abstractions,
---------------conceptual line of demarcation------------------------
2} eternally existent, macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space, that surrounds/embraces the following,
3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.
It does not get any simpler than this Cosmic Trinary Set, however, there exist subsets of Meta-space truth, and greater number of subsets of occupied space Universe, if we discount all of the complementary Meta-space aspects of those differrentiated subsets of occupied space Universe.
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Loyal to King Trumpet and MAFia or else is one approach to unity. Putin and oligarchs been practicing that since fall of USSR.
......Is loyalty a unifying principle? Yes it is
Gravity is the universal, unifying phenomena of Universe via mass-attraction via
......Is love of unifying principle? Yes it is
MAFiA-attraction has a front end King { guru } to unite them all.
.......Is respect a unifying principle? Yes it is
MAFiA is likened to the Higgs { Bosnic } Field, and King Trumpet as the attractive/contractive Gravitation phenomena.
( King................MAFiA field............................... King )
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( King................MAFiA field................................King )
Is there a 180 degree opposing Dark Energy )( that accelerates the expansion of this finite MAFiA field?
......Yes there is and it is complex since where dealing with complexity of human nature.
Ex hate { repulsive expansion } exists for various reasons in various circumstances of consideration.
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@zedvictor4
@Reece101
Prisoners should be put to work, period
Work is mandatory as productive citizen of society ergo, I agree with Zed to some degree, however, I also believe there always exists migating factors of circumstances to consider beginning with the realities of widening gap between and the amount of medical care,
0 } ultra-rich and ultra-poor of a global humanity.
and the balancing or referencing the above, and each of the following to each other ergo, like so many issues, complexity always comes into play with any society, even those with less acsessing of empathy and compassion.
1} nature and degree of crime ---ex carrying weed, selling weed, carrying fentanyl or worse, selling fentanyl or worse--- terrorist attack with ergo no consideration of human life, manslaughter i.e unintentional death in a bar { or other } fight breaks outs, etc,
2} type of medical being needed, ---bandaid, topical anti-biotic to prevent potential infection of a cut and degree of nasty circumstances it occurred in, vs MRI's, team of surgeons, extended rehabilitation with nurses etc,
3} nature of why --ie resultant of what circumstances of cause--- the medical is needed. Ex repeated breaking of safety rules, someone else is the causes for anothe's need for medical care, etc,
4} in slavery days, there where those who understood the chance of better production of goods comes from more humane treatment of slaves, is my best guess.
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@Shila
They claim they would be smarter if humans stopped attacking them.
Shila, please stop posting in any threads ive started. Period. Back off and please do not respond to this message either for starters.
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@Shila
No more backflips with Trump an eighty year old president in office.
Shila, please do me a favor and please do not post in any threads ive started and please start by not replying to this specific post/message by me #45, or anyone in this thread. Back off/take a hike please
Most advanced Robot is about Robots perception of environment using GPT-4 { a drawback to inventers of the robot }
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Go to 3:44 in this vid to see how one drop of water could potentially create the largest nuclear blast accident in Lebanon --as recorded in this vid-- in 2020 other than atomic weapon blasts.
And Shila please do not reply to this message, or any messages by anyone in any of the threads ive started. Back off, please.
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..." NWS Earle is home to over 20 tenant commands, the largest belonging to Navy Munitions Command. Navy Munitions Command CONUS East Division Detachment Earle performs the Station's primary mission - providing ordnance to the Fleet. Earle is also home to Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit Twelve Detachment Earle, as well as over 300 navy reservists who drill out of the Navy Operational Support Center at our Waterfront.
..Earle’s Waterfront is also home to the Oil and Hazardous Materials Simulated Environmental Test Tank (OHMSETT), operated by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement. OHMSETT’s 2.6 million gallon tank is a one-of-a-kind facility for full-scale oil spill response equipment testing, research, and training. "..
AI--- ' A typical hydrogen bomb, depending on its design and purpose, can have a yield ranging from hundreds of kilotons to several megatons of TNT, meaning a single hydrogen bomb could be equivalent to hundreds of thousands to millions of tons of TNT explosive force;with most modern strategic warheads falling within the range of 100 kilotons to 1.5 megatons '..
Here is link to simulate a nuclear bomb explosion any city/neighborhood. You put in the kilitons, --duhh, I put in 1 kiloton-- surface or airburst, fireball, radiation etc, and then see radius size etc to be effected.
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