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@Goldtop
Lol.
If you go around insulting people, don't get all victimy when you get slapped in return hypocrite.
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@Buddamoose
You make the same logical mistakes. I'll show you.
It was a failure in the sense that it didn't produce single-celled organisms.
That is what it set out to do.
But both the original and follow up, again, created organic matter such as proteins, from inorganic matter.
So what? We knew that before Urey-Miller. No matter how you try to spin it, that is not evidence for abiogenesis.
I think you have a fatal misunderstanding of the nuance of abiogenesis.
And I think you are unable to think outside of the status-quo. You saw my link. There is currently no mechanism that can account for abiogenesis. There is no scientific reason for its suggestion.
It's not claiming it went from inorganic > single-celled. The claim is inorganic > organic > single-celled.
Yes, and that has never been observed. Never. Nowhere. On what is the claim based? Not science.
Furthermore, your insistence and whining that it's not been conclusively proven belies you really lack an understanding of science.
Your choice of emotive words like "whining" after you ask me to explain, belies your lack of integrity. There is no science to support abiogenesis. Which is why you are currently attacking the man. None.
Very few things in science are ever conclusively proven.
6,000 years of consistent science all the time everywhere comes pretty close moose.
Most are probabilistic determinations of accuracy aka "theory".
Then in the case of abiogenesis, say so. Stop trying to sell a bankrupt theory. There is no science that backs it up. None.
For example, we don't conclusively know exactly why gravity works as it does.
But gravity has been observed. Abiogenesis has not. Ever. Not even once. Not anywhere in the universe. Why is it a theory? Or given attention? Not because of science clearly.
However, I doubt you would be screaming to high heaven that the understanding we currently have is a flight of fantasy because it hasn't been conclusively proven.
I would be if gravity had never been observed in all of human history. Trying to equate gravity to abiogenesis is dishonest moose. Gravity has evidence. Abiogenesis has none.
Basically, you are in an uproar over something not being scientific, when you aren't really operating scientifically yourself.
Because when you say words like uproar, that kills the science? I will beat you without resorting to ploys like that. Your problem is that I have only used science. You want to introduce God into the picture. And in fact you have. I will beat you without using such dishonesty.
Not just because of the aforementioned, but also because you are setting up a false standard of deductive reasoning being the only valid rationale in determining that probability.
Nonsense. When the occurrence is zero, and has been zero for all of human history. The probability is zero. You will not be allowed to sneak abiogenesis in. There is no probability for incidences of zero.
Illogical. Abiogenesis is as reasonable a theory as world belching turtles. They both have the same quantity and quality of evidence. We are not operating in a vacuum. We know that life comes from life, because for 6,000 years, that is what science has consistently shown us.When inductive reasoning as abiogenesis is in part via the KCM premise of transitive series of events having either a starting point, or not having one(infinite series.), is just as acceptable as evidence to such determinations.
In order to suggest abiogenesis, you must first have some scientific evidence for it. Further, you must dismiss all the perfectly good science supporting life from life. Why would you do that?
As for your religious beliefs, I fail to see how they matter. I do not need to evoke some God to dismiss abiogenesis. Pure science does that adequately.
If you wish to discuss religion, please do so on the appropriate board.
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@disgusted
Lie. You said you wanted me banned. You got banned instead.I couldn't give a fat rats arse if you get banned,
you are the fun that makes my appearance here a reason.
Lol. OK. It's good to know you like being banned. Have fun.
You've convinced bsh1 that every little word is an insult...
If that were true, you'd already be banned.
you will keep making that mistake and I'll keep laughing at you,
Lol. My mistake ended in your banning? Keep laughing.
just go ahead and call me a troll again. Bsh1 is looking forward to it.
You are a troll. You even admit it here.
Pretending to be a victim is one of your most endearing qualities.
Must be why you follow me around thread to thread and even site to site. Or maybe it isn't my endearing qualities at all, maybe it just that you are a troll.
Or a jackas.....scuse me, ....a donkey. Either or.
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@disgusted
You ban record is solid. My money is on you to be dumb enough to get yourself banned again.do you think your reports will be taken more seriously by the "dumb mods".
You bet me once and got banned yourself. You seem to have learned nothing. It doesn't take a prophet to see that you will force the Mods to ban you again.
The difference with me is I don't really want you banned. But you decide that, not me, and not the mods.
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@disgusted
Accusing me of being a troll is a personal attack.
You've been banned twice for trolling. This site among them. How is calling you what you are an attack?
Calling you ignorant is just questioning your insufficient knowledge concerning evolution,
Lol. Perhaps the dumb mods will be fooled. But have you heard me complain? Call me anything you like. I'll just call you what you are.
Oh, so you aren't trying to "wind me up" anymore? Now you want me to be careful? Lol....be careful.
You want me banned so badly we can feel you trembling. Halarious.
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@disgusted
Not if the person is in fact a troll. You've been banned from 2 sites for trolling. Count them. 2, including this one.Calling someone a troll is a personal attack, beware little thang.
As I've told you. Stop being a troll, and you won't get called one. And you will stop being banned too. Simple as that. You still seem to think the mods are idiots, and that you can fool them into banning me.
Keep trying, I've got more prophesy for you.
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@Stephen
Both Mary and the disciples were allowed to touch Jesus.
That is not true. Read for yourself:
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
Why would Jesus say don't touch me if she was not touching Him? You have been the one insisting it was touching. Now make up your mind. Did she touch Jesus or not?
So now you slide to Jesus not allowing Mary to detain Him as He did the disciples, as if detention is some moral rightMary had.
Sorry but it was you alone who bought the word “detain" into the mix when all scriptures consistently refer to touching in one form or another,
Touching can detain Him genius. That is why Jesus mentioned the things He had to do that touching Him would delay.
no matter which bible you choose. Even the member who you praise so highly for his “best post ever” uses the word “ hold”, which means to have contact with and touch.
Exactly brainiac. We all agree that she was touching Jesus.
Even Castin, who is not even a Christian, was able to understand the passage and find a resolution.
No. He said that he “ found the whole thing dubious”.
Yes, but SHE understood it. She's not christian, so of course she doubts it. But she understood it.
which means hesitating or doubting.
But still understanding it.
I think that you didn’t understand Castin’s take at all on this thorny subject. Go see it is at post 56.
I understand it fine. You seem to think she needs to believe. She understood it, even as an atheist. Why can't you?
But you, our supposed biblical scholar, was mired in stupidity.
I never claimed that, but it has become clear to me that I do know scripture just a little bit better than you ethang5
Lol. You think Jesus is showing bias, and you think you know scripture? That's funny.
Please, tell us you're pretending.
About what exactly?
About not understanding simple English.
I am with Castin on this; the whole affair is“dubious “in the least and bias.
I doubt Casting thinks it is biased. Either way, bias is only possible if Mary had some right to touch Jesus. She didn't. Jesus could allow anyone or no one to touch Him without being biased at all.
Sorry, but it is idiotic to think if Jesus says to Mary in the morning, don't touch me, I have not done so and so, He must say the same thing to others in the afternoon. That is just stupidity.
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@disgusted
Posted August 12th, 2018
Disgusted->Vagabond->Bulproof - I just might go to DI and wind you up and get you banhammered, that would be hilarious. You'd start spewing your hate and vitriol and "wala" the thang is gone.
Funny. You threatened to come here, "wind me up" and get me banned. And you get banned! Lol.
Beware the bul for he is coming.
The bully, now called "vagabond" (now called disgusted) is neutered on DebateArt. No one need beware of you. You are acting civilized but we all know you can't do it. Your stupidity will break free.
Just call me a prophet.
Ethang5 - Aren't you ashamed you have to chase someone who doesn't respond to you across websites? Pitiful. But come. We will see who gets banned.
With your obsession, you will be just like BoG, repeatedly making fake accounts to keep on the site.
Bulproof -> Vagabond -> Disgusted -> ???
On it goes.
Ethan - The site owner knows who you are and knows your new name.
The moment your inner troll bursts free, and he will, you will experience something similar to when Airmax took you for a ride in the black party van.
Prophesy!! Lol.
Disgusted - Calling a poster stupid is a personal attack...
When did you learn this troll? To show how dense you are, you are still trying to "wind me up", even after your temp ban. You can't wind me up, but you can get banned again.
Do I still need to beware troll?
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@mustardness
Lie. You are a moral hypocrite. You care only for illegals. All circumstances are not the same and not all laws are moral. But all immorality is evil.You believe all circumstances are the same and that all laws are moral.
Repeating nonsense does not change it into sense. I've read your stupidity. I've re-read your stupidity. It is still stupidity. Repeating it will not change my mind, or change your stupidity into a sensible argument.
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@Stephen
You couldn't understand the simple fact that both Mary and the disciples touched Jesus, and stupidly think it was "bias", that Jesus either should have been touchable or untouchable at all times, and we should have told you something as detailed and complex as the old testament rituals Jesus had yet to fulfill?I also find it strange and puzzling that this interpretation of the matter of "ascended" hasn't been pointed out by the faithful hear at all, has it?
I thought you were too stupid to understand that. And as we see, you were. I didn't need it. I could, and did, show your argument to be stupidity just on the touching alone. Both Mary and the disciples were allowed to touch Jesus. No need to confuse your addled mind with unnecessary stuff.
So now you slide to Jesus not allowing Mary to detain Him as He did the disciples, as if detention is some moral right Mary had.
Even Castin, who is not even a Christian, was able to understand the passage and find a resolution. But you, our supposed biblical scholar, was mired in stupidity.
Please, tell us you're pretending.
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@Tradesecret
Yours was one of the best posts I've ever seen. Had I seen yours first, I would not have posted mine. Kudos.
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@Stephen
Nope there is no mention of “detaining” stop falsifyingthese facts.
There is. Jesus says, "do not cling to me, I have something to do." You stupidly demand that the bible be literal in everything. Why else would Jesus mention what He has yet to do, and connect it with her clinging to Him?
I am still finding it difficult to believe you are really this stupid.
So touch is to lay hands or at least fingers on someone. To cling to someone is also to touch someone.And to "detain" someone, one has to touch them.
Yes captain obvious. She was touching Him.
The point of BIBLICAL fact here is, that one persons gets favour over another.
Please stop being stupid. Jesus was under no obligation to treat everyone the same. He resurrected some, not all. He dined at the home of some, not all. He saved some, not all. How is this favor? Both Mary and the disciples touch Him. Where is the favor?
One person is ALLOWED to "touch" "cling" or even to "detain" but another person is refused.
Because genius, Jesus said He had something to do. Could you really be so stupid as to demand that circumstances at different times in Jesus' life should have no effect on what He allowed? Could you really be that dense?
We can't "explain" stupidity away it's true. But fortunately for us, your stupidity needs no explanation. Even Steven Wonder would see it.AND YOU OR Mopac cannot explain this biblical biasness away .
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No sir. Evolutionists believe it too. Just proofing into existence is the definition of abiogenesis.Only creationists believe that animals/birds just poofed into existence,
learn something about biology before flapping your ignorant gums.
Why? You're a troll. No one needs to learn anything to talk to you. It would be a waste of time.
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@bsh1
The behavior and number of the trolls on the site sharply contradict this.That wasn't the case with Airmax (who had a similar policy)
But you have a right to your opinion. Good luck.
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@bsh1
OK. You're a mod so you can do that. But...
1. It was not a mod he accused, it was the site owner.
2. Accusations like that, being illegal IRL, can have implications outside the board
3. It's kind of self-defeating to the CoC. I can insult you the mod, but not some random member?
4. I agree mods can choose to overlook some insult or attack against him, but does not lose any of the rights other members have. Thus, a mod can sanction an attack against him if he so chooses, even if he needs to complain to the other mod to get it done. There is no reason why mods should be fair game.
5. I think most members will be less inclined to take mods seriously if some loser can insult them any way he likes with no consequence.
But carry on. It is your call, and a brave one.
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@Castin
Sure.
I had assumed you were done and was not expecting a reply. Do or don't. But no stress.
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@Castin
Yeah.
It was a pretty unfair accusation to throw out.
Just saw GoG. Asked him why he wasn't here. Invited him. And goldtop is here too, basically doing what bully did.
See us just chatting? No socio-political Armageddon? Thought I couldn't eh?
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@Goldtop
Right. Your physic powers told you about the breasts. You certainly was not searching for evidence of abiogenesis either. But from what we see on your mind, it probably was less a leg than an 11th finger.I certainly wasn't pulling my middle leg watching titties bouncing around a magical kingdom on television.
That's what sad, pathetic people with no life do.Lol. And well adjusted people like you guess others are masturbating based on their own perverted minds. Or they troll the religion board because their atheist life is so full and rewarding.
At least I have evidence for my claims.
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As we can easily see,
Unlike with you.
Ethan has no concept of science,
But he can actually post links containing science, unlike you.
Whose content you fear to read so you attack the man. What a loser.his first reference is an Iowa newspaper and an article from a political science student.
This is his refutation of science.
Its a refutation of you clemmet, not science. The post lists the flaws of the experiment. You respond with the illogical, he's a political science student. What are you?
His second reference is a Christian anti-science site. Nuff said there.
Untrue. It is staffed by scientists, all of them more qualified than you. Ad Homs won't help you doofus. Address the content, not the man.
Ethans opening statement is a blatant lie.
Ethan's opening statement is corroborated by the third link you.....ahem....forgot to mention (and snipped off) physics.org.
Na-huh is all you have. But you know science.
Lol.
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@Goldtop
What did you do during that time? Search the net for evidence on abiogenesis?
Lol. I got more scientific facts on the Emmy's than you did searching for evidence for abiogenesis on the net.
Keep looking Columbus, I hear the net has millions of sites. Surely there has to be some evidence for abiogenesis somewhere.
Or you could just stupidly post again that scientists are laughing. That seems to be your intellectual level.
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@Goldtop
No. But I did watch the Emmy awards celebrate them. Does your mom allow you to watch the Emmy's?
Do you ever wonder what actual scientific evidence looks like?
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@mustardness
Read the following with any comprehension abilities you may have,
I read it. It is still spellbindingly stupid.
then take a hike from this thread. thanks
No. Are you frustrated that you can't make me?
Does any republicans understand what the word 'prevention' actually means?
When it comes to preventing election loses, it seems they do.
Now, does any democrat understand what the words 'other people's money' actually means?
I guess not. But keep begging doofus. Maybe we'll have pity on you and toss you some coins.
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@mustardness
I am. But unlike you, I think all people should be treated fairly, not just illegals.I know your not big on morals,....
My morality is actually......moral.
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@Goldtop
Thanks, I will. As you seem not to be able to post any science.
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@RationalMadman
If you have no proof of this you need to keep it to yourself. It is libel....after all I suspect the admin of being involved with actual gangs of online hackers and being part of the spambots of DDO and the admin would read all the PMs.
If what you suspect is true, it would be illegal. But libel is also illegal. You get really upset when people "suspect" you of being mentally unstable, don't unfairly do the same thing you dislike to others.
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@Goldtop
What science am I denying? My science has 6,000 years of scientific observation and experimentation to back it. Your science has nothing. No support, no evidence.
You started a thread on abiogenesis and have not been able to post one jot of evidence for abiogenesis on that thread. Funny no?
I have mentioned neither TV nor religion. But you have. You should have mentioned some evidence for your lame theory instead. As you said, you're done here.
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Urey-Miller was a failure. And when the experiment was corrected for early Earth atmosphere, it was again a failure. If you read science sites accounts, you will see them mightily try to walk the fine line between leaving the reader with the impression the experiment had value, and not being accused of over selling the experiment.
Here is a good site. Not really objective, but fairly true
Here is one listing the flaws in the experiment.
Here is a technical paper written by a scientist. (BSc, MSc, PhD, CChem, FRSC)
Knowing Urey-Miller is dead...
Scientists propose new hypothesis on the origin of life...the debate about whether life could arise from chemical reactions began to change when scientists started to question the atmospheric conditions used by Miller and Urey.
Researchers who have repeated the Miller-Urey experiment under the new atmospheric assumptions, including Miller, have shown that this new mixture does not produce amino acids.
“After it became clear that the origin of the atmosphere was made of carbon dioxide,” says Mulkidjanian, “there was no physically or chemically plausible hypothesis of the origin of life.”
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Now, trying to cling to Urey-Miller, they downplay the goal of the experiment and say that it only proved that amino-acids could form in early Earth atmosphere. Not only is this untrue, but the original goal of Urey-Miller was to prove abiogenesis. It failed. All other similar experiments have failed.
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@mustardness
Read the account genius.
Ananus, thinking that he had a favorable opportunity because Festus had died and Albinus was still on his way, called a meeting of judges and brought into it the brother of Jesus-who-is-called-Messiah … James by name, and some others.
Why does your ignorance not cause you caution?
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@Goldtop
Probably the same truth you claim I am denying in your abiogenesis thread. What claim is that? Cause you've said zippo about abiogenesis in that thread.What truth am i denying, E?
Of course, no such verses exist,
Of course. And with bible apps online, you can find out. But your claims about evidence for abiogenesis are like bigfoot. Never seen.
And here I thought your massive ignorance was due to spending all your time with the Bible, never learning anything else.
Just like an ignorant troll, because you don't know the verses, you think they don't exist. And your ignorance will not even cause you to be cautious.
My sides are absolutely splitting.
Yes. We know what it means when a troll claims to find something funny. Hopefully you will one day find some evidence for abiogenesis.
Expressionless. Stellar TV.""My God, that was emotionally satisfying TV!""Spine tingling TV.""TV without equal."
No, you aren't following me, I'm just living rent free it that bitterness racked head of yours.
Let's hear more about this truth I'm denying?
You brought it up in your abiogenesis thread, but never said what it was. That is what you do, you claim people are denying something, but can never say what they are denying.
I myself would love to hear more of whatever you think I'm denying.
Lol. I can feel you flexing to dodge from here.
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Just one of several extra-biblical mentions of Jesus.
Josephus, (66–70 C.E.), in his work Jewish Antiquities, written in Greek, mentions Jesus by name twice.
When people are ignorant and don't know they are.
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@Goldtop
Right after you give me some evidence of abiogenesis Jed.
I owe you nothing. You come to a religion board denying truth. But on the science board, you can't address the failure of your own thread.
At least you know my evidence is in the bible. Your claimed evidence for abiogenesis is non- existent.
Cue the troll.
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@Goldtop
The troll is the anti-science Creationist who comes to the Science forum with denials and ignorance.
That would be you. No evidence, denying science, and being a troll. Check.
It never mattered what was brought before you on such threads, you just denied it and started name calling, like you always do.
The name calling has all been done by you. And other than insults, you've brought nothing but lame excuses. Check.
It's why no one takes you seriously, why no one bothers to engage you in such topics, why it is a waste of time trying to teach you anything.
Lol. More people talk to me than to you. And you seem unable to teach anyone about abiogenesis. You started the thread and have said not one thing about abiogenesis. Check.
Maybe you should start a thread about the photons at the center of black holes. Isn't that your specialty?
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There are verses in the bible that describe what Jesus looked like. Most people just don't read.
But this question is like asking, what race was Shaka Zulu? If you have to ask, you may not be ready for the answer.
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@mustardness
Read the following with any comprehension abilities you may have,
I read it. It is dazzlingly stupid.
No. If you feel outraged, you leave.then take a hike from this thread. thanks
Does any republicans understand what the word 'prevention' actually means?
When it comes to losing elections, it seems they do.
Now, does any democrat understand what the words 'other people's money' actually means?
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@mustardness
Sorry, with your poor English, and your trying to sound cool, your post is just nonsense.
If you were moral, you would care about all parents who are stripped from their kids, not just the illegal ones.
Get a real moral compass, learn to speak, and come back after you do.
But come back legally now. America has zero tolerance now for criminals.
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@Goldtop
Denials and ignorance being evidence for my position. OK.Yet, here you are trolling my thread with denials and ignorance
Yet, here you are trolling my thread with denials and ignorance.
Your thread? The one titled "abiogenesis" where you've said nothing about abiogenesis? That thread?
The troll is the one who has been asked several times for evidence for his position but has posted instead some unrelated stupidity about creationism and amputees.
And true to troll form, you will do so again, because your irrational bitterness has overwhelmed your common sense. But on the bright side, you are trolling your own thread.
Tell us nothing about abiogenesis again. That's always fun.
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The Dems have another "victim" lined up if the GOP seems really to vote. Watch.
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@mustardness
None of your post is pertinent or logical. It is the babbling of a loon. Reposting it only serves to show people you are mentally unstable.
Your manifesto is loopy, and it has nothing to do with the topic.
Bucky Fuller was an uneducated mooch. That is the truth, sorry that you admire him, but he was a loon. So you can post your stupidity again, and I'll just tell you the same thing.
Stay on topic. Resist the urge to preach your loony ideas, and use your best English. You'll do fine.
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@bsh1
OK. You can relax with me bsh1. I promise I will try to be fair and objective with you. You are aware that I didn't start this thread or endorse its sentiment right?
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@mustardness
I keep telling you, your message #1 was babbling nonsense. My reading it again will not change it to sense.
And just as you can't tell Americans to take a hike from their own country, you can't make me take a hike anywhere.
Political correctness has made you believe you have some power. You don't. All you can do is post nonsense and demand other people's money.
You post stupidity and you will get called on it. Don't be mad, just clean up your posts. We will assume your poor English does not indicate a poor mind.
So if you don't like it here, you take a hike. You don't have a right not to be offended, and no one needs to back down because you're outraged. The only idiot and chimp I see is you.
Now go home. Go make your own country better, instead of expecting America to foot your bills. America owes you nothing.
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@Goldtop
I'm not the one following you around Dingus.
And I'm not the one on a thread titled abiogenesis who has posted nothing on abiogenesis, but keeps talking about other people being science ignorant.
I think you're done here.
I was done with you on DDO. Little slow on the uptake there genius.
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@whiteflame
I am quick to say when I think something or someone stinks, I want to be just as quick when I think someone is super.
I am glad to see whiteflame here. He is quality through and through. The class of this site just went up with his joining. Mike, if you don't know him, get to know him. Whiteflame, welcome man. I hope I didn't embarrass you cuz you aren't a toot your horn kind of guy.
Hope you like it enough to stay.
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@bsh1
I agree. Did that risk come to your minds at all? Or was it not related to the snafu at all?
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