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You: Debate me.
Me: No.
You: Debate me.
Me: No.
You: Debate me.
You: Debate me.
Me: No.
You: Ok.
Which one do you think I am doing?
What I think you're doing is irrelevant. You are begging. The answer is still no.
If you really think this is begging, your range of vocabulary is shocking.
As is your range of groveling.
Bones: Debate meEthang: NoBones: WhyEthang: Besting a cripple is not [snip] worthwhile.
Besting a cripple?
Yes.
Who's the cripple?
Doesn't matter. Whom ever the cripple is, besting him is not something worthy of praise.
Obviously, as you provided this as a reason for why you do not want to debate me, then the cripple is me!
Or that besting you would be LIKE besting a cripple. Analogy, really, look it up. But as liberals love being victims, knock yourself out.
No you have debated, it's just you took an L.
The complete forfeiture has morphed into a debate. Ok bones.
When have I said my win ratio is 7?
When you said my NOT debating you was a "loss". Seven comes right after 6, no?
...the membership can observe your cowardly behaviour.
Liberals always think what's important to them is similarly important to others. People like you are powerless against me precisely because I couldn't care less about status or what strangers think about me.
I just want to debate you because you're a loud, cocky and misinformed theist who thinks they are correct, and I would love to give you a reality check.
The reality check you need is one about your self-image.
Dead people lie in soil.
Some people lie in their posts.
Wow my feelings are hurt why would you say this to me.
I never lie to save the feelings of snowflakes. If you're gonna be on a public board, grow a thicker skin.
At least I have a mum's shoulder to cry on.
Right. Your mother will never die.
Now, go cry on her shoulder, mine are soggy from your begging tears.
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@zedvictor4
Glad you've learned this after referring to Trump's approval ratings as evidence that your apoliticals is correct.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Eliminate religious groups in the hunt for god.
The hunt would be easier if you didn't keep obsessing on religious groups.
How else does one find out that we are here on earth for corn ?
I'm open to hearing about your corn religion. It can't be any more loony than your obsession with groups that sing.
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@Bones
Begging" is a bit strong.
Multiple posts after I've told you your examples are asinine? Begging is understatement.
Besting a cripple" - Ethang5 when referring to Bones. Is this a sign of Alzheimer's?
Analogy. Look it up. "The plane flew like a bird" does not mean the plane is being called a bird.
Like I said, your hiding skills are as bad as you're debating skills
Seeing as I have not debated, you're right. Though how you know is a mystery.
I mean you've lost via full forfeiture...
So your win ratio is now 7? Lol.
Your maths is as bad as your debating which is as bad as your hiding.
So to whom did I lose?
I just love debating cocky noobs. Love it.
You seem obsessed. No matter, it will eventually sink into your ample cranium that your goading is useless.
I had your mum begging.
My mum is dead. But say hello for me if you speak to her again.
I know it's easy to wrestle a cripple, but I still want to debate you, regardless of whether it's a challenge.
And what you want is relevent to me how?
I know you're scared, it's okay. In fact, the first time you debated, you got so scared you full forfeited!
And yet you're still at my heels begging!
The challenge is right in front of you buddy.
Wrestling a mental cripple would not be a challenge for me Shemp. Find someone who cares.
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I predicted this move to teenage moderation. Though I like both MisterChris and Supa. Hope they will not allow David and Rag to force them into just being figureheads doing their bidding. The religion board remains a bullying and spamming playground.
Doc, if you weren't a conservative, you'd be on the mod team by now, you're the right age.
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@Tradesecret
Yay!
Is it coincidence that I returned right after? Just like I did after Bsh "resigned"?
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@Polytheist-Witch
I have no idea why he's allowed to continue to post in the religion section of this forum. Almost everything he post is a calling out of members of the forum which my understanding is against the rules.
The rules get suspended if you're advancing the Head Mod's anti-religon board agenda.
The verses are all Old Testament why don't you include Jews in your hate filled rhetoric.
His schtick template only allows for anti-christian buffoonery. And the biased mod would quickly shut down anti-Semitism. Anti-christian bias is ok.
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@Lemming
Personally, to me this sounds more like a post mocking religion, Than an honest attempt at truth or understanding,All posts like this do is drive genuine religious folk 'away from DART.
Which is exactly what Ragnar wants. Why do you think posts like this continually escape moderation?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
If you believe in god , you join a religious group.
Is that your made up law or is the government about to start kicking down doors?
No one in the history of living has believed in god and not been in a religious group.
Since omniscience doesn't end until 2,264, you might be right.
The bible shouldn't have a ( USED BY ) date, but surly it needs a ( BEST BEFORE )
Before what?
It is near impossible to eliminate religious groups.
Why would you want to?
I can't think around em.
You can think?
Perhaps if you didn't park your circus on the Religion board, your brain cells would function again? Hmmm?
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FOR SINGLE CHRISTIAN MEN THAT ARE LOOKING FOR A WIFE OF YOUR DREAMS:
1. Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes. Then she’s yours! (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)
2. Find a prostitute and marry her. YIKES, whatever works! (Hosea 1:1-3)
3. Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock, and biblically, he should give you one of his daughters, easy peasy! (Exodus 2:16-21)
4. Purchase a piece of property and get a woman as part of the deal. (Ruth 4:5-10)
5. Go to a party and hide. When the women comes out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your wife, how easy is this! (Judges 21:19-25)
6. Have the brutal serial killer Yahweh/Jesus God create a wife for you while you are asleep. Note: this will cost you a rib. (Genesis 2:19-24)
7. Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman’s hand in marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work another seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first place. That’s right. Fourteen years of toil to get a wife, ouch! (Genesis 29:15-30)
8. This should be a favorite for all pseudo-christian men looking for a wife. Cut off 200 foreskins of your future father-in-law’s enemies and get his daughter for a wife in return! (I Samuel 18:27)
9. Even if no one is out there, just wander around a bit and you’ll definitely find someone. Its all relative. (Genesis 4:16-17)
10. Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest and choose a wife. (Esther 2:3-4)
11. When you see someone you think could be your wife, go home and tell your parents and say: “I have seen a woman; now get her for me.” If your parents question your decision, simply say, “Get her for me. She’s the one for me!” (Judges 14:1-3)
12. Kill any husband and take his wife. The drawback is to prepare to lose four sons, damn it. (2 Samuel 11)
13. Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow as your wife. ( (Deuteronomy 25:5-10)
14. Don’t be so damn picky in choosing a wife. Make up for quality with quantity, praise! (1 Kings 11:1-3)
15. Or one could accompany DeeDee on one of his many trips to a Vagas whorehouse to "evangelize".
*Married non-christian men also welcome.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Was the bible wrote without the ummmmmm, knowing of what happens in 2266. ?
Yes. I think their omniscience lasted only until 2,264.
If a person wants to find god it will take a bit to navigate around all these religious groups.
Why? Does God reside inside a religious group?
But we can eliminate the non-singing religious groups right? That will make finding God easier, no?
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@Bones
I'm not the one ducking and dodging.
You're the one begging and claiming not to care.
Do dumb examples make you a cripple?
No, I don't think so.
Then why do you keep lying that I called you a cripple?
..and when asked to debate you run and hide.
And yet you always know where to find me.
I mean, you hide but you're very good at like, among other things.
I'm good but you always find me? Are you confused?
I just like smashing noobs and it would be a pity not to deliver on you.
Lol.
I mean you've lost via full forfeiture...
So your win ratio is now 7? Lol.
...to a rapper who doesn't care about debating.
You've been chasing and begging me to debate you on multiple posts. But you don't care? Dart wouldn't be big enough to contain your spam if you did care.
...Statistically, I am infinitely better than you at debating.
And yet it's you begging me.
Also, tell me when I mentioned my 6 win streak?
I don't know. Who said you mentioned it?
Lol. The genius calls it a streak!
Silly me I've got my facts wrong! This makes your job of proving me wrong to be even easier!
So easy it would be akin to wrestling a cripple. I prefer challenges.
Also, I'm open to yet another debate topic if you want.
Of course you are.
You down? Down on your feet running for a hideout likely.
Lol. You'll find me.
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@Tradesecret
After all if these are the words that come out of your mouth.
What about them?
Lol!!
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@Tradesecret
Of course - sitting on a throne - is both literal and metaphorical.
Nope. The Bible can only be literal. People back in biblical days had not yet invented metaphor. Ask any atheist.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Atheist take the Bible literally as fundamentals do, LOL.
I always find that hilariously funny.
But maybe God has one of those ergonomically progressive thrones that allow Him to "sit" on His knees. (God has knees?)
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@Bones
...it would appear that you have some time to juggle.
I could have forever, and I would still not engage those insipid idiocies you called contradictions.
Wouldn't say I'm a liberal.
You wouldn't say your examples are infantile either.
I mean sure, I agree you can do what you want.
Thanks!
I just find it funny how you pull up strong calling me a cripple,...
Do dumb examples make you a cripple?
...and when asked to debate you run and hide.
And yet you always know where to find me.
Sure, run away, I don't really care,...
Your multiple posts begging me to notice you prove that.
...it's not my public image that's being dragged through mud.
It's sweet how the atheist is always so concerned with my "public image".
But as I'm such a degenerate cripple, debating me could give your not-so-healthy W/L ratio a little CPR.
One wonders how bloated your ego would be if you'd won more than 6 debates against non-noobs.
Tell you what bones, just post your win/loss ratio, and then go find someone who cares. You think Jesus told followers to mutilate themselves, and you wonder why I find you intellectually unworthy to debate, or why I would not want to debate such silliness.
But you don't care, right?
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@zedvictor4
Biden's current approval rating reflects how he's managing inflation, crime, Afghanistan, and borders. Swiftly.
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@secularmerlin
I do not know if Pluto was created or who created Pluto if it was created, thus I cannot know if, "Moe of the 3 stooges" is the correct answer or not.
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@zedvictor4
Lol!!
The border is not in chaos?
Afghanistan is not in chaos?
Inflation is not in chaos?
Crime is not in chaos?
Man, your reality blinders must have an rpf (reality protection factor) of 100%
You are exactly the kind of voter the Dems love. Apolitical.
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@zedvictor4
Sorry my priorities aren't consistent with yours. Does that bother you a lot?
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@Tradesecret
I am just hoping for an intelligent conversation.
You will get that only from intelligent people.
There are a couple of interesting discussions on the philosophy board.
I'll check those out.
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@RationalMadman
The point was that no real study on human nature can be 100% one way. Who influences the study is immaterial.
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@Double_R
Trump: Executive orders in the 1st 100 days. 10
Biden: Executive orders in the 1st 100 days. 54
So executive orders are bad? lol wow.
- Biden said: Only dictators rule by executive orders.
Trump literally governed by them,...
Biden has issued 3 times as many in less than a third of the time as Trump ever did.
...he even held signing ceremonies regularly to commemorate them.
So did Biden, complete with sniffing the hair of 9 year old girls.
Trump: Fully free hand given to social media companies and users.
Biden: Working secretly with tech Nazis to censor users whom the govt. doesn't like.
Trump railed against them over and over again calling for section 230 to be overturned.
That was his opinion. He actually DID nothing to curb the freedoms of either the social media Giants or it's members.
He even tried to start his own platform to compete with them. You can’t be serious.
I am telling the truth, which is why you're deflecting. An Obama official now working for Twitter is the one who announced Trump's ban. The Biden administration admits to working with FB to ban "problematic" users. Face the facts.
And I love how the right ignores the merits of every single issue where the government pushes back against speech and just claims it’s a “left vs. right” thing. It’s not.
I guess a president simply voicing his opinion openly is not better than a president secretly colluding with big tech to censor citizens.
Trump: Free and open inauguration.
Biden: Barbed wire and national guard troops locking down capital.
I must have missed the part where the US Capitol was attacked and breached by a mob forcing congress to evacuate the building as a result of Trump winning in 2016.
There were multiple violent leftist demonstrations between Trump's win in 2016 and his inaugaration, 2 at the Capitol building, and Trump did not close down his ceremony.
No one was killed on Jan 6th. The Capitol building was not burned. Not a single person has been charged with insurrection. But what you did miss is the 3 months of assaults, looting, and burnings by leftist. They were not treated illegally the way Biden's gestapo have treated the peaceful demonstrators at the capitol on Jan 6th.
Trump: Listened to his military experts.
Biden: Overruled the experts causing death in Afghanistan.
So *now* you guys believe in following the consensus of the experts? What a joke.
Does this address my point? Americans died because of the leftist idiot in the White House.
Trump: Had his Executive orders upheld by SCOTUS
Biden: Has had several of his EO's shot down by SCOTUS.
This is just plain nonsense. Trump had plenty of his EO’s overturned. You’re not even being serious.
It started with Trump's so called Muslim ban, and is continuing with SCOTUS reinstating his "Remain in Mexico" order. I can give you a list of Biden's EOs dismissed by SCOTUS. Can you list those of Trump's?
Trump: No political prisoners, not even for the treasonous FBI
Biden: 600+ political prisoners with no due process.
What are you talking about?
The 600 people hunted down by the FBI and held without bail or charge now for 6 months for expressing their political right to protest peacefully.
I wish we could patient the mechanism that allows liberals to be blind to reality.
Looks like the right got to it first
Not unless your post is "the right".
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@Double_R
Do you not yet know that certain personality types gravitate to certain careers more than to others?
Yes, I understand that. Why do you bring that into the conversation?
Scientists are mostly liberal because they are created in academia which is top heavy with beta men.
Whatdoes that actually have to do with academia?
Those who can, do, those who cannot, teach.
Like the way every study by the tobacco industry confirmed that tobacco was healthy?
Yes, until someone other than tobacco companies started funding them.
Sorry, I never provide fake studies as evidence for my arguments.
Beyond this fallacious example, what is your point, that study results mean nothing because humans are not perfect?
That studies involving human nature cannot possibly be all one way. If every study actually confirmed liberalism, would that not be "perfect"?
Reality is neutral. Always has been. Always will be. Reality will confirm whatever the truth is. The first casualty of politics is truth.
Neutrality and objectivity are not the same thing. Reality is objective, not neutral.
Objectivity in ethics imply reality. They are synonymous in the realm of morality.
So yes, it is certainly possible that one side could be wrong all the time, in fact it’s not even implausible. All it takes is to start with the wrong foundation, from there everything else falls apart.
Thank you for confirming my point of why liberals don't question the dubious depth of studies all confirming liberalism.
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@Tradesecret
Loads of replies, but the atheists can't post one reasonable contradiction. Instead, they prattle about stupidity like ELOs, slapping people, and being fake.
They will not, or cannot, stay on topic, but will later shout "runaway!" Over and over like a childish skipping record.
The only reason they are allowed to continuously ruin the religion board is because the head mod wants the board to fail.
Yeah, I said it. It's true.
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@Tradesecret
Dear Brother, show the membership anything you like. If you want me to respond to you. Ask me a theological or religious question which is not personally attacking anyone.
He cannot TS. His schtick doesn't allow for it. Lost in his schtick for so long, I don't think the lad knows how to actually communicate anymore.
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@Bones
Accept the challenge I don't have time for your nonsense.
You obviously have time for nonsense. Knock yourself out, you may be a blazing liberal, but you will learn that I don't have to do what you want and I don't care how you feel about it.
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@Tradesecret
For the atheist, it's his subjective feelings. He rationalizes this by concluding that everyone goes by this metric too.
But then will insist that his claims are objectively true. Go figure.
...none of the others can consistently and rationally make sense by themselves.
I agree, but would like to hear how you came to this conclusion.
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@zedvictor4
Trump: Executive orders in the 1st 100 days. 10
Biden: Executive orders in the 1st 100 days. 54
Trump: Fully free hand given to social media companies and users.
Biden: Working secretly with tech Nazis to censor users whom the govt. doesn't like.
Trump: Free and open inauguration.
Biden: Barbed wire and national guard troops locking down capital.
Trump: Listened to his military experts.
Biden: Overruled the experts causing death in Afghanistan.
Trump: Voluntary administration of vaccine.
Biden: Wants gestapo to go home to home forcing people to be injected.
Trump: HAd his Executive orders upheld by SCOTUS
Biden: Has had several of his EO's shot down by SCOTUS.
Trump: No political prisoners, not even for the treasonous FBI
Biden: 600+ political prisoners with no due process.
I wish we could patient the mechanism that allows liberals to be blind to reality.
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@zedvictor4
We are, thank you. But I wasn't in the wilderness. I intended to start posting earlier but always had more pressing things to do.
We are trying to oust the swamp things in Philly who want to block a forensic audit. Fraudsters protect their own.
I see you're still solidly on the "no real position" fence. Consistency is a virtue.
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@Bones
You best believe I'll give you contradictions when you accept the debate.
Pack a toothbrush. You'll give me a sensible example before I'll determine if you're worth the effort.
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@oromagi
Thanks Oro.
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@Bones
I didn't challenge you. You sent me illogical hogwash and called it a challenge.
Now, instead of continuously airing your butthurt, just give me a sensible contradiction. Or is that too hard?
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@949havoc
Reverse TDS, called BDS. Everything Biden does is great.
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@Bones
I assume that's a no to the challenge then. Pity. You've certainly done the talking but not much walking from you.
You'll live.
I'll live knowing that you are just another forum theist who hides in their pack, who when is faced with a challenge, cowers. Just another one of them then.
It wasn't a challenge, but not to worry, I'll lose the appropriate amount of sleep over it.
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@Bones
If I'm such a fool, accept the challenge! Just one click away from proving that I am a sham, fraudulent, misled, stupid, crippled atheist.
I have no interest in proving you a sham, fraudulent, misled, stupid, crippled atheist. Why would I?
You may continue, but I really cannot be goaded, and especially by childish taunts.
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@Bones
I assume that's a no to the challenge then. Pity. You've certainly done the talking but not much walking from you.
You'll live.
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@Tradesecret
I don't know Timid, but he sounds like a fun person. I don't think I know Bones either, or why he would think I was Timid.
But it is clear that the intellectual quality of the "Bible contradiction" claims has not risen one bit. And I bet they wonder why they get no traction.
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@Fruit_Inspector
Oops, Fruit_Inspector, you've stumbled into a liberal hypocrasy. Not to worry, they have rationalizations complete with links.
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@Bones
Should be a very easy win for your not-so-healthy win loss ratio then!
Besting a cripple is not really a boasting point.
Sorry I'm not a Christian, if that's what you are alluding to.
If you're sorry you're not a Christian, why do you continue to be sorry? Do you live in a Muslim country that bans conversions?
I can call upon some atheists to see what they think.
You think Stephen and DeeDee are reasonable? Lol!
Sure, let's be sensible.
That would be nice for a change.
Let's do this in a debate environment, where our win/loss is on steak and where our feud is on public display.
I have no "feuds" with you.
You've done your talking. You've called me ludicrous child. But can you can you walk the walk?
I did not call you a ludicrous child, I said your list of contradictions, which predate you, were the most ludicrous and childish interpretations of biblical verses.
I'll send you a challenge.
Sorry, I still cannot take you seriously, your "contradictions" lack common sense. Since I cannot believe you're that stupid, my only recourse is to believe you aren't being honest.
If you knew me, you'd know that I cannot be goaded, and I do not play to audiences.
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@Bones
Sorry Bones, I simply cannot take your claims seriously. If you really think Jesus was telling His followers to mutilate themselves you aren't intelligent enough to be worth talking to.
I do not debate flat earthers, or Jehovah witnesses, or people who think Genesis 1 and 2 are different creation stories. I do not debate people who take the most ludicrous childish interpretations of the Bible. There is no need to debate them as they are either being dishonest or are too stupid to be worth the effort.
Either way, no reasonable person buys their hogwash anyway, not even atheists. Now, if you have something sensible, we can talk. Otherwise, you and your agenda will remain unmolested by me.
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@Double_R
Can you please explain what being an “alpha male” has to do with academia?
Do you not yet know that certain personality types gravitate to certain careers more than to others?
If every study confirms the “liberal mindset” then isn’t that a strong indication that it is correct?
Like the way every study by the tobacco industry confirmed that tobacco was healthy?
Or do you believe reality has an obligation to remain neutral when it comes to political issues?
Reality is neutral. Always has been. Always will be. Reality will confirm whatever the truth is. The first casualty of politics is truth.
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@Bones
I'm not an alter of Timid or timid in the least.
Checked out your list, and if you think those are contradictions you're not intellectually able to engage in this convo.
And if you aren't embarrassed to offer such stupidity as evidence, nothing I can say will help you.
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Here is the sequence.
1. Non-alpha men mitriculated to academia.
2. These men tended to hire non-alpha men like themselves.
3. Soon, academia was majority non-alpha men.
4. Non-alpha men tend to be liberal.
4. Scientists are grown in academia.
Slowly a peer-review system developed. These non-alpha men became gatekeepers for scientific grants.
5. Scientists quickly learned that non- liberal positions do poorly at peer-reviews and Grant money.
6. Scientists adapted to follow the money.
During the great days of science, when scientists were mostly self taught and there was no peer-review muzzle or career killing grant losses, scientists reflected the general population politically.
Today, conservatism is career death for a scientist. Today, virtually every study "confirms" the liberal mindset, but unless reality is liberal, this cannot be correct. Today, much of what passes for science is just politics.
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* Spam is prohibited, and any overtly repetitive nonsensical posts are considered spam.
*Unwarrantedsystemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, are subject to disciplinary actions.
Obviously these rules do not apply to some on the religion forum based on moderator inconsistent application of the rules.
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@Tradesecret
Hey TradeSecret!
The obsession found you when I left huh?
Repeating something ad nauseum does not suddenly make it true.
If only the spammers knew that!
I liked your expansive take on death. The Bible uses multiple meanings of death too, not just the physical passing of people.
That is why I like reading your posts, you always have an inventive and novel way of approaching a topic.
The nation of Israel could be said to have "died" and been revived in 1948. A type of Lazerus.
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As we see, whenever a supposed Bible "contradiction" is claimed, and the Christian offers a resolution, the atheist simply oozes to yet another supposed "contradiction". Why don't they ever hash out the original claim?
If the offered Christian resolution is faulty, why not say so before oozing to another "contradiction"?
I suspect that most of the people offering up "contradictions" are not honestly doing so, and have an agenda. If you took your time to bring up what you think is a contradiction, why are you not interested in resolving it one way or the other?
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