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The Solution To Poverty?
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@Greyparrot
You're not talking about the elimination of poverty but the elimination of financial disparity. The topic of my thread is neither poverty or financial gaps.

Poverty cannot be eliminated.



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The Solution To Poverty?
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@Greyparrot
So you are saying the solution to poverty is not eliminating poverty?
No. I'm saying that the only way to COMPLETELY eliminate poverty is NOT with enforced labour.

I suppose we could make everyone poor like Venezuela
You should learn to be careful of absolutes like "only". But if you live in a black and white world, it doesn't matter.
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A Primer on Moderation
 I do appreciate that I'd probably be singing a different tune here if I had personally been sanctioned by the mods. 
So if you couldn't be objective and fair, why do you automatically believe the mods would?

I left DDO and I'm back at DDO with the same no oversight mod ruling the board by whim. This is not what I signed up for.

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The Solution To Poverty?
I doubt if that is the ONLY way. But the purpose of this thread was not the elimination of poverty anyway.
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A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.
boom tish.
No. Theodore Roosevelt. Harvard grad and nobel laureate who served as the 25th & 26th president of the United States.

I doubt Mr. Boom Tish had as impressive a record.

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Pastor Martin got you to admit that "non fundamentalist" Christians are capable of the same honesty! Lol, given your past positions, I would call the good pastor a miracle worker.
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A Primer on Moderation
Based on the moderator's commentary and the CoC as written: it's completely pointless. The mods can decide or not decide that any behavior is in line with, or against the CoC, whether or not that behavior is explicitly permitted or disallowed by the CoC. It's all up to their discretion without appeal. In which case, why have a CoC? It literally doesn't matter. It's all up to their discretion without appeal. In which case, why have a CoC? It literally doesn't matter.
Oh my God, this is excellent!

Mike, this is important. Pay attention to this. Drafterman is making a point that will prove to be probably the most important question asked of this young site. As it stands, our CoC means nothing. Any mod can call anything a CoC violation. Anything at all.

So I ask along with Drafterman. Why have a CoC? It literally doesn't matter. It is currently a sham that only allows cover to an abusive mod.
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What gets your goat?
Personally I have the Goatgetter 500. The one with the baaaa nulifier. Love those things. Gets my goat every time.
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Talking to God
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@Castin
Thanks. 

Do you mean God sometimes speaks in your mind with your mother's voice?
No. Like I pray to know which job offer is His choice and my mom tells me a story about my first "job" at 4 years old that makes God's answer clear.

When does God want you to do what he says, and when does he want you to make your own decisions?
Not my will. But His. I turn over to God the power of attorney to have /make the final decision. Being a Christian is a process where the decisions are less and less me, and more and more Him. He must increase, I must decrease.

Do you know immediately when you're doing something that displeases him? 
Yes. Most times, before I do it.
Okay, the obligatory question: why do you still do it? 😋
That is why I sent the verses I did in my last post. It explains to us why we still do what we know is wrong.

We've all done things we know are wrong, of course. But not all of us believe in a cosmic disciplinarian.
I don't believe God is a cosmic disciplinarian. Jesus said He did not come to condemn, but to save. You may see God as a cosmic disciplinarian, but the bible says there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. I hate displeasing Him not because I fear Him, but because I love Him.

Who wrote a rule book. 🙃
I don't believe the bible is a rule book. That may be your take, but Christians have only 2 rules. The bible is my Fathers love letter to me, and as I get older I understand more and more of it.
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A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.
Theodore Roosevelt


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All I know is when a poem impressed you by it's "beauty and truth", it was written by a Christian, inspired by the bible.

Pastor Martin Niemöller believed that bible.
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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
What then about SecMer's idea of Koko? Are you fimiliar with her story?




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Yeah it's a pathetic imitation, but probably well meaning even if dreadfully self indulgent.
It's sentiments are taken from the same book that Pastor Martin Niemöller used for his poem. The book you call, at other times, completely evil.

So let's go and kill some more school children.
If you kill them in the womb, there's less of a mess.
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Justification of knowledge and morality/ethics
 Was also asking shed12.
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Justification of knowledge and morality/ethics
What about two people who agree on what they mean by good and evil? Could they talk?
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Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.
— George Washington

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Justification of knowledge and morality/ethics
You are welcome. We get too few philosophy questions and posts here.
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Public Ban List Proposal
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@Earth
And you'd know cess pits. You've probably known cesspits for a long time too.

Your expertise is obvious. But really, the mod knew about your bias already. Guess the urge to westboro baptist out proved too much for your self control.

Excuse me, I need to disinfect my....keyboard.
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First they came for prayer in school, and I did not speak out, because I was not a student.
Then they came to murder the unborn in their mother’s womb, and I did not speak out, because I was not an unborn child….
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@Castin
No. Somehow bsh1 has gotten Mike to turn over Dart sans oversight the way DDO was turned over to Max and his clique.

All moderation decisions are opaque. And though bsh1 says one can protest, he means "protest" secretly to him, as one cannot divulge a mods pm, and it is in the mod's pm that one learns why one was banned. Neat trick huh?

So if a mod unfairly bans you, or "allows" himself to be manipulated into sanctioning you, your recourses are fewer and less certain if your sanction was unfair. The mod would have an incentive to keep the reasons for his decision hidden.

Ideally each reported post is evaluated independently based on its content, but we know that the more someone has been reported, the more likely their borderline posts are to be judged as crossing the line
So you "protest" asking the mod to show the CoC violation, and the mod replies, "This is not a discussion." You can see no CoC violation in the post he referenced. The mod is more likely to maintain the abuse if in fact there was no CoC violation!

This is what we have now. A clique member from DDO, who 'consulted' on moderation issues with Max, who has become Max to Mike's juggle here. No real oversight. No real consequences.

And his old lackies are setting up shop. Shredding the language filter, openly attacking the religion board and it's posters, and constantly pushing to bring every half-baked, drama-prone, DDO idea here.

Maybe Mike was one of them all along. Either way, we're locked in. When you see Airmax join the site with fanfair, then you'll know the age of Mike is drawing to a close.
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Justification of knowledge and morality/ethics
How does logic do it?
Through the process of cross verification and networked rationalization.

If something is good, is it necessary that there be any justification or any reason why?
Not to the good. But our world is not comprised of only the good, and the evil deserves an answer when they ask for justification.

If you didn't know that something was good, how could any amount of investigation lead you to conclude it was good?
None would as long as you don't know what is good. But restricting the evil from investigating good on the grounds they would never conclude it was good, is a unfair reason for doing so.

The justification of good, is not dependent on anyone's conclusion. Good is self verified and self justified. It is obvious only to those who already have a love of the truth.
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A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither, a society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.
-Milton Freidman
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I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
— Thomas Jefferson

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Justification of knowledge and morality/ethics
Can knowledge be justified? 
Sure. Logic is the process of doing so.

Does inquiry into why something is good (or bad) undermine goodness?
I don't see why it would.
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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
— George Orwell

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Some people's idea of free speech, is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage.
-Sir Winston Churchill



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Conservatives have excellent credentials to speak about human rights. By our efforts, and with precious little help from self-styled liberals, we were largely responsible for securing liberty for a substantial share of the world's population and defending it for most of the rest.    
-Margaret Thatcher



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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
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@secularmerlin
I'd have to read up on it, but couldn't she have been mimicking her handlers, meaning just as little as a parrot mimicking a phrase?
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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
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@secularmerlin
Beaver have been building their damns the same way for thousands of years.
Only in general. Each dam is a little different. And beaver experts can look at a cross-section of a dam and tell you to within 50 years when it was built. Perhaps some of those minor changes could be left up to the beaver's personal taste.

Fashion is defined in part as a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
Fashion can also be the the eclectic taste of an eccentric individual. Your definition precludes that. And that is more how I meant "fashion" Than as a "popular trend" among animals.

Koko the gorilla was very interested in her appearance by all accounts. Many animals put on displays or make homes designed to impress mates.
But can that be truly considered "fashion" under either of our definitions?

....capable of fashion after a fashion.
Nice pun if you intended it.
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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
I meant those who would find it interesting enough to comment saying something related to the OP.
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Everything is Wrong about the Biblical Creation in Genesis
Buttered popcorn level entertainment. Lol.

Lol, I agree...
I would hope so, as you seem to be the main event. I'm going to get some 7-up.

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Everything is Wrong about the Biblical Creation in Genesis
Buttered popcorn level entertainment. Lol.

Lol, I agree...
I would hope so, as you seem to be the main event. I'm going to get some 7-up.

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Mrs. Trump
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@Castin
Though I realize you didn't say it was.
He didn't have to.

+1


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Everything is Wrong about the Biblical Creation in Genesis
Buttered popcorn level entertainment. Lol.
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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
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@secularmerlin
Don't waste your apologies. I have never had a no reply post in more than 10 years.

Those who think it interesting will find it.

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Public Ban List Proposal
Reports are anonymous. I can only see who was reported, not who did the reporting.
It seems like that could be abused. If I don't like someone, what is to prevent me from just reporting every post they make?
Especially when the mods only skims the reported posts and concludes violations at raw words and not meanings.

That abuse has, and is happening.

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Jesus is Lord?
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@PGA2.0
I seriously doubt you were ever an atheist... 
News flash. No-one is born christian.
Houston, we may have a problem.....

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Jesus is Lord?
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@PGA2.0
>>ahem<<
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Mrs. Trump
Young people. Check the BBC archives on voice recordings of past 1st ladies. Many did not "sound" American. Some weren't. The point is that Trump married before becoming president.
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Jesus is Lord?
Hey PGA2.0, you were born a Christian!  Your posts here are a testament to that.

Should we alert the Pope?


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Mrs. Trump
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@drafterman
Lol. Wish we had about a thousand more such "unqualified" politicians.

America would actually be able to balance its budget.

MAGA!



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Kavanaugh is Innocent
Ben Shaperio must really piss you off when he says facts don't care about your feelings.
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Mrs. Trump
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@Greyparrot
Lol. Its the teeth that always gets me.
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Committed by Faith
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@Stephen
Paul founded no church
 
 So you keep insisting but I disagree with you. 
Disagree all you want. Jesus is the founder of the church. Paul says so, and scripture says so.

Can you make any sense out of these statements?
I will not play scatterbrain with you. After the error in your post is exposed, you just run to multiple never ending weird translations you insist are scripture.

No thanks.
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Committed by Faith
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@Mopac
Being a good Christian is not about knowing everything. There is a difference between faith in The Truth and faith in knowledge. 

Amen. Our faith is in The Truth.

Jhn 1:13 - Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Jhn 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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Why Didn't God Write the Bible?
This Christmas, millions will recite the Genesis story, words written 6,000+ ago will ring out all over the world. And millions will worship, praise, thank, and adore Him to whom other kings bow.

His name will be reverently whispered by millions in every language in every culture in every corner of the globe. His acts will be re-inacted, His comments spoken again, and millions will find joy and peace in His person and message.

The atheist will be in his dank, dark, corner, fuming and bitter, like a blind ant, shaking his fist at the sun.

I think I'll break out in my happy dance!
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Are Animals Capable Of Fashion?
Does true fashion require sentience?

Can things not part of an animals body, like the style of its nest or the dam of a beaver be considered fashion?

If not, then how come the home of a human can be considered fashion? What's the difference?
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re editing of words in the bible

i have shown in my posting and...

"Posting" also has several meanings.

Is it normal for words to have more than one meaning? Or no?

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Pay Crimminals Not To Rob
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@Porkloin
I loved Bonanza. What a good show it was.
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Mrs. Trump
Enlightening you is obviously way beyond my capability. Perhaps Castin possesses such ability. I don't.
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