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10.Billion People by 2100
law of averages says we achieve 10B worldwide population a ot sooner than 2100. We were 4B in 1975, and doubled in 50 years, and it will not occupy that much time to double again before 2075, and I maintain that with proper land management, which we do not practice very well today, we will still not exhaust resources. Not even food, because every single one oof us - all 8B of us - can survive on 0.45 acres, each and sustain life with more than enough food, and that leaves availability
ON the other hand, I don't think we reach 2100 before Earth as we know it is completely changed with Christ's return, so aiming at 2100 is a moot point.
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@Lashwnda
That's right, hold to your nineteenth century biases [sorry, we're really talking early 17 century, aren't we?] and don't bother reading the article. Typical closed mind, I couldn't carer less what color wraps it, because that's all it is: wrapping. I've seen what's inside the human body. All human bodies. Once inside, you don't bother concentrating on what the wrapping is, because it's all the same inside. Get it?I didn't think so.
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Ball Kicking Machine
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@LucyStarfire
Capitalism buys everything except love. This is why people in Capitalism dont have love, as love cannot ever be bought. If it is bought, then it is not love.
circular logic, and that just results in premature efactulation.
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Trump vs Musk
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@zedvictor4
And if Musk stood for President, dumbasses would vote for him.
Musk is disqualified. Must be born here to stand for presidential election. Remember the Constitutiion? Artiucle II.
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Trump appoints 22-year-old ex-gardener to lead US terror prevention center
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@Sidewalker
to be in charge on Homeland Security?
Christy Noem happens to be in charge at HSS, boyo. Truman was a former shoe salesman, and made one of the most courageous decisions in the history of US government.  So, you jealous that a 22-year-old is chosen to be CP3, and you were not? You have Trump buried so deep in your head, you use him as your avatar? Did you lose yourself? Be yourself; everyone else is taken.
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Trump vs Musk
Cutting spending is. a pipe-dream until Congress figures out a way to repay the money it has "borrowed" from the Social Security Trust Fund, which is 100% private money, not a penny in public money from tax revenue. The debt is $2.5T as of close of fiscal year 2024  [Sep 30, 2024] With that paid back, the SS Trust Fund is out of danger. The whole problem was Congress authorizing "borrowing" in the first place. Congress is a cesspool of corruption. The things that surprises me about Congress is that, in passing the 25A 50 years ago, it gave itself a means to be able tor launch the 25A, but in 50 years has avoided giving itself that option bay legislation. By law today, they still cannot launch tho 25A, and I am perplexed in wonder why they avoid it, even though they are a power-hungry branch of government. 
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@Mharman
Dem elected president
-Dem completely and utterly fucks the economy
-Repub gets elected
-Repub helps only marginally, sometimes makes things worse
-Dem elected

The libertarian right needs to become more vocal.
The last time a libertarian had the slim chance of election, all he did was be the cause of another Democrat election, and just repeated your cycle.
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@FLRW
Musk called for Trump's impeachment.
And, like most who do, without a shred of authority to make the call. Typical.
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@Lashwnda
According to NIH, about 9M of the US population declare being TGNB [transgender non-binary], and of that figure, the max number who seek gender change surgery [GCS]  amounts to 3.1% [2.8M], and that TG-men number about 2/3 of all who seek GCS.
And there are virtually no "races" according to the Human Genome Project, which concluded its 13-year study in 2003, and as reported  that year in Scientific American, [12/2003] there is no genomic justification to designate race - but some of us have never heard that news before and still use such antiquated terms as "cracker." "Race" exists strictly as a social distinction; not genetic.
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Trump Cancels Pride month.
Seems to me, LGBTQ+, professing  to be all inclusive,  by an alphabet soup, ignore F & M, consisting of the high 90th percentile of humanity. So, how inclusive is featured alphabet, really? And why celebrate only it? Celebrate humanity; all of it.  June seems like an adequate month, and it does not need striped colors, for it is all color of the entire spectrum. Being an illustrator, I know the visible spectrum numbers in the millions of identifiable shades, and is just surface decoration, regardless. It's what is in the heart that counts most.
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What is the Christian take on Gnosticism?
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@Sir.Lancelot
Part of the 'divine knowledge' gnostics want to consider as essential knowledge, but which they purposefully ignore is the atonement of Christ for all who are born in flesh toe be redeemed from death, the last threshold through which all must pass and who inherit life everlasting, whether it is with God and Christ, or not. Then the other feature of the atonement gnostics dismiss is redemption from sin by repentance such that that everlasting life is with God and Christ. We do not inherit eternal life in the presence of God merely by, at one point in our life, acknowledging Chgrist, and then doin g our own thing thereafter. Faith without work to sustain our righteousness to the end is dead, Paul taught. Thererfore, all will defeat death, by resurrection, but not all will live with their benefactor of that life: Jesus Christ. We are to endure to the end in personal righteousness, chiefly by repentance for our own wrongdoing, and not for anyone else's. This is a repeating process throughout our lives, not a one-time expression.
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What I mean is, is the world really going to be affected by your tirade against it? Being productive is far more appreciated than being destructive.
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📣 Who deserves to be a mod? 📣
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@Sir.Lancelot
@AdaptableRatman
I wish both of you would just back off from each other and stop this petty argumentbetween you, accept what is reality under current trying conditions, etc. I consider bot of you friends and do not like seeing this back-and-forth. It is not comely at all. With everythingelse going on [the site losing its domain next month in particular, I think now would be a good time to bury the animosity and work to make a better site where all get along as best they can. We wouldn't be here if this was not a pleasing place to spend time in a free exchange of ideas, as it should be, recognizing we have divfefrences of opinion. How boring would it be if wee agreed on everything?
I was vortex into Hall of Fame III in 2022, and elf the sight later in the year over disgust with just this sort of bickering that I, myself, participated in. REcognizing it, I felt it best to leave the site, and I spent a nearly 3-year hiatus, returning pearlier this year. Let's just please get along.
Thanks, AR, for the suggestion to be a Mod, but do we need more mods? /Let's get the new site going, and then, I might be interested, but there are others more deserving, I think.
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@LucyStarfire
The world hates me, it is kind to hate back.
Can't blame the world for what it does not know, and cannot know because  the blamer reveals nothing about the blamed. As said, the next move is on Lucy and no one else. Just open up.
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@LucyStarfire
Paul taught that faith is evidence (Hebrews 11: 1 - but the entire epistle is really a dissertation on faith) not mere belief, which has no evidence. That’s why belief and faith are not synonymous; they are entirely separate concepts. Assuming others are always wrong is merely having a narcissist’s relationship with the mirror reflection when all a mirror can do is reflect what is behind, never ahead, like driving full speed ahead looking in the rear view mirror. Why?  That’s just a crash in the making.
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@LucyStarfire
That’s exactly what a failed lawyer would say to an opponent in court when it’s known the case is lost. I’ve been around the sun sufficient number of times to know that by experience, What is a better teacher than personal experience.
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@LucyStarfire
You don’t know me well enough to say that
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@LucyStarfire
No, I will it so, but I can make it reality only for me. You can do the same. It’s entirely yours to do so.
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@LucyStarfire
If God made you as you are today, why is your DA profile a complete blank? No, that was by your free will to leave it blank, not anything God, or a sentient universe decided for you. Just so, the people they became are exactly as  trans, gays, pedophiles, straights, and Hitler decided by their free will, and we see the results. None of us can be absolved of personal responsibility. That’s otherwise known as entitlement.
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For those committed to the idea that free will does not exist, but that all decisions are made by a sentient universe, why are such insistent that gender fluidity is a personal choice?
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Freedom bears personal responsibilities and consequences, even for illegals
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@AdaptableRatman
I was referring to the latest "freer Palestine" terrorist attack in Boulder, CO, a former personal home, and Palestine can blame their own voting results. Do they imagine they can ignore a sovereign nation that already occupies "from the river to the seas" and has by sanction of the UN for the last nearly 80 years? Israel has had two more   tours around the sun than I have; it has earned its place. Palestine, go find somewhere else. Why can't the Arab nations carve a shared piece of land? We're talking about children of Ishmael, after all, who did not earn Abraham's birthright, and no one has paid the descendants of David for the Temple Mount he purchased from 
King Arauna, the Jebusite [Arab] for 50 shackles of silver, who have rightly owned the mount since. That's the history, and it's about time someone recognize it. WEll, the UN did, and tough if others have their noses pushed out of shape over it. Why don't they get creative like the Chinese and make land where there is currently water at the end of the Saudi Peninsula, or extend land into the Mediterranean from Alexandria? Doesn't anybody think creatively over there, anymore? One would think they learned their lesson from Babel. Nope. They need to start mimicking the ancient Egyptians and stop thinking like ancient Persians.
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Freedom bears personal responsibilities and consequences, even for illegals
Freedom bears personal responsibilities and consequences, even for illegals, and even for Palestinians, and even everyone else who claims to embrace it. If you cannot bear the heat of price for freedom here, then adios muchasos. This nonsense in Boulder, a former residence of mine, must not happen anywhere by anybody claiming the embrace of freedom. It's a bloody lie of convenience, only, if freedom is embraced only by it's assumed consequence only for who shout longest for it, but offer none of it for others. Soliman is no man. Not a child, either, just a savage in perennial savagery. No room for that, here, nor indeed anywhere.
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I got to roast my own "faith"
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@FLRW
 Steven Weinberg
So, Nobel, or not, Weinberg has proven nothing. Of course good people can do good things, and evil people can do bad things, That's human nature to choose. But human nature can also choose an influence of bad people doing good things. That's the general point of religion, but Weinberg isn't seeing that coming. That action needs an open mind, first of all, good or bad. Is Weinberg tied to a stick? Are you?
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I got to roast my own "faith"
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@RemyBrown
How is feee-thinking the territory of any one faction, only? Free-thinking is an attitude void of politics, or any other influential social fabric. Free thinking is the only the  purview of people who are willing to listen to opposing ideas without screaming at the moon, and both progressives and conservatives can do it. It's a matter of individualism, not collectivism, and both sides can be curtailed by collectivism. So, what roast?
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Lets think about this
Let's not.  Mexico is also being inundated by illegals just going through it to get here, because Biden failed to stop it both when he was VP with orders to stop it from Oba'a, and again as president ordering Kamalala to stop it, and she failed and he failed still. We are a sovereign nation, or has that been ignored while thinking?
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New community announcement
I'll send you a page of a current debate in voting now, #6061 The Tariffs imposed by Trump in his second term have had a negative effect on our economy so far.
Nothing to see, since the argument fields are blank with a forfeit notice,s but I posted the arguments for each round in Comments.
I can see the argument field, but when  I click in it, nothing happens and no entry can be made. Comments in debate worths, as do all functions of forum and leaderboard
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New community announcement
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@David
By the way, I have a problem in debate that has affected me since my return. I cannot enter debate arguments in any sargument field in rounds, I must enter them in comments, and that is a hassle for everybody participating because my rounds automatically forfeit, so I do not debate much. So far, it cannot be resolved. I bought another iMac just before coming back and I am suspicious that my os has a conflict, but all other features of the site are usable. Weird, huh?
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New community announcement
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@David
This is exciting. By the way, good to see you’re back. I came back a couple of months ago after a few years’ hiatus, Glad to see the site name would be retained. Question: relative to stats we’ve individually acquired, would we keep them or would continuing members start from scratch and re-register? How about former members who were banned for life? Any graphic design or illustration needs, I’d be glad to contribute my time to help.
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Is more or less capitalism better for most people? Or just better capitalism?
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@n8nrgim
I am not arguing that government not have a safety net, and I don’t mind that government feature that as a valid use of taxes as long as it is used by citizens - I emphasize illegals here are not citizens - of legitimate need and not for lazy people who can but choose not to work. I have no patience for laziness and illegals. My argument is Christians who honestly think the wealthy do not deserve to keep what they have legitimately earned. I have no patience for the wealthy who have not earned or inherited it. I have some wealth, but give about 20% to charitable causes of my choice and time to help neighbors and people in temporary need when traveling when I encounter them. 
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Is more or less capitalism better for most people? Or just better capitalism?
One of the ideas about creation of wealth that has always intrigued me is how many Christians approach the story from Matthew 19 about the young rich man who asked Jesus what he [the young man] must do to inherit eternal life, and we tend to misunderstand Christ's initial response, knowing the man's heart already, tells him to keep the commandments. The man replies he has done so since being a child. But have  we ever encountered before, before this meeting of the young man and Christ, that what Jesus will reply when told the man already keeps the commandments, that Jesus tells him to give away all his wealth to the poor, as if that is already a commandment given to all? No, we have not encountered that command before. So, why now, and was it a commandment for all to give all they have, or was it advice just for this one man, whose  wealth engendered jealousy in him for not understanding that charity is also a command which may have slipped by him? Answer that question, and you will know why the "command" to give all away is not a command for all. Remember the incident that people were horrified by the small donation an old woman gave when they they were making a show of the volume of their "charity." When told the few pennies the woman gave was "all that she had, the others were shamed. 
No, we're not asked to all give all that we have, but to be as generous as we can, given the relative wealth we have. If all of us did at least that, we would not need to depend on government for our sustenance.  Did Jesus ever command "Government, render unto the people?" No, he did not. But he did qualify the necessity to give of ourselves in prudence.
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I do NOT support unconditional equal rights
I found this on the NIH website https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8888370/
and was horrified by what it says just regarding definition of pedophilia. They cannot make up their minds and appears professionally incompetent. I separated out one sentence [in italics] that just angered me for the uselessness of the statement in an alleged "professional" atmosphere.

"Defining Pedophilia
"Pedophilia is defined as a persistent and recurrent sexual interest in prepubertal children (Finkelhor, 1984; Schmidt et al., 2013; Seto, 2018). In the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (American Psychiatric Association, 2013) further defines pedophilic disorder as a persistent sexual interest in prepubescent children, which manifests itself in thoughts, fantasies, urges, sexual arousal, or sexual behavior, and is accompanied by either acting on or experiencing distress because of this interest.

"Pedophilia is not synonymous with sexual offending against children, though it is often conflated with child sexual abuse in popular and academic discourses (Feelgood & Hoyer, 2008).

"Seto (2018) emphasized that most men who sexually abuse children are not pedophiles, nor do all pedophiles sexually abuse children. Empirically, among child sexual abusers across multiple assessment approaches, a subgroup of between 20 and 50% can be classified as pedophilic (Schmidt et al., 2013)."

There's more, but it's over the top enraging. Worse, it cites a study apparently sponsored by NIH that had a total sample  size of about 900 individuals. According to my professional experience in statistical sampling, for a population the size of the U.S., [340M] the sample group must be a minimum 2,401 individuals, who must be drawn from a minimum 12,000 individuals asked to participate. These numbers are derived from a margin of error of ±2%, the maximum number that will hold the statistical data within a desired 6-sigma result.  You will note if you're familiar will poll sampling that the typical moe os between ±3 to 4%; sometimes even larger than that. Pathetic.
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Corrupt billionaires aren't the only parasites
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@TheGreatSunGod
Poor and non-productive countries are just producing too much useless stuff.

one man's useless production is another man's useful entertainment. After the  2000 election [Bush/Gore] effectively decided by SCOTUS for Bush, and all the Florida chads controversy, I made small plastic pouches about 4" x 4" with my heat sealer. Each pouch contained a few small-size hole punches of white card stock and  a note inside: "Official Dehydrated Florida Chads. just add water."  Sold them by internet orders for $1.49 each,  and made about $300 for about $25 production/shipping cost in a standard business envelope.
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@TheGreatSunGod
I understand.
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Why I don't think we should be colonizing Mars
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@FLRW
The entire Republican  2024 presidential primary contenders all vowed to ignore mention of Trump during the campaign since he snubbed attendance at the debatesr, and won hands-down, anyway, but none of them could maintain their oath. Many others find it impossible to leave him be, as well. Popular guy, in spite of the naysayers. Why not just ignore him? Bet you cannot do it.
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@IlDiavolo
Sorry, I avoid youtube. Anyone can post justo about anything and pass it off as fact. Nope. Try another justification odd argument. It's just like Wiki, which self-admits it is unrelaible and inaccurate because it allows anyone lacking credentials to edit it. 
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The tactic of personal attack is the most immediate loss of argument there is, for you exhibit no other more topical argument, making my rebuttal much easier:  We're done.
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@AdaptableRatman
Why am I wrong vis-a-vis  thee existence of Jupiter?
Those going to Mars, shout;d we even go with the express aim to populate it, which may not be the case for longer than Musk is alive, may have a variety of outcomes, but if they're all murdered, who is the agent of murder?
Why is outer space of the devil. Here is his present, but temporary domain: Earth
Yes, we have different view ranges on Earth, but not because it is flat, and I've already explained why flatness is not its proper condition.
And astrology does not distinguish a difference of star charts depending on whether we are born in Chicago or London, or Bejing. Further, our star charts repeat every 122 years, in spite of our being celestially in a different location in space over that period of time. That is faulty understanding of the seven "wandering stars, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, let alone the change of star locations as observed from Earth over a 10,000 year cycle. I've seen the night sky in that 10,000 years onto the future  by manipulation of a planetarium demonstration I was shown when obtaining my Astronomy merit badge as a Boy Scout. I  could not identify a single constellation  of 40 I just identified to qualify for the merit badge a few minutes before.  So, I've known since them that Astrology is as bogus as flat-earth theory.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If a tree falls in the forest, did the ground observe it hit?
All "if/then logic" isn't, simply because whatever follows "if" is not currently true, and will not be true until "if," whatever it is, is altered, and thus, cannot justify "then," regardless of what is claimed as "then," even when "then" is not identified by such a moniker, but is merely a statement of result. Glad you're amused.
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@AdaptableRatman
Flat earth map is circular not rectangular. 
Yes, but I was giving you benefit of the doubt by offering a slightly larger distortion of landmass created by a rectangular map, and also why I offered a circular rendition of four quadrants at 90-degree separation, as well as super-sizing Earth's landmass to Jupiter scale. But none of those benefits offered are advantageous to the flat-earth theory and it's limitation of preventing seeing alternate night skies in different locations, even on a North pole-centered disc, as if one actually existed. By the way, I have traversed, at various times collectively, the entire  circumnavigation of Earth, and have never witnessed either an ice wall, which you do not mention is camouflaged, nor a "camouflaged barrier" around all. What camouflage, anyway? Is it hidden by A.I?
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@FLRW
Importantly, the state of superposition can be maintained only while a quantum system is unobserved. Once measured, the wave function of a quantum system in a state of superposition "collapses" into one of the basis states.
The same phenomenon exists with ordinary observation of ordinary nature to "prove" base science, let alone quantum science. Observation alters the nature of nature by the presence of the  observer, even if the "observer" is a mechanical device.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Still amused?
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@Savant
superposition, not superstition

 I thought that was a typo. Never heard of "superposition," and, according to Google, no wonder. IT says in its A.I.-driven "overview: "Quantum superposition is a fundamental principle of quantum mechanics that states that linear combinations of solutions to the Schrödinger equation are also solutions of the Schrödinger equation. "

That is what's called a circular logic, and why I have abandoned Google due to its AI dependence. A = artificial. It sure is.

The DuckDuck search engine makes much more sense: "In physics and systems theory, the superposition principle, also known as superposition property, states that, for all linear systems, the net response caused by two or more stimuli is the sum of the responses that would have been caused by each stimulus individually."
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@AdaptableRatman
NASA... not accidentally take 4 letters of SAtAN in its name.
Sure, and in Jesus are 2 letters of JEW and 2 letters of the Nazi S.S. Correlation? In the first, absolutely. In the last, not at all. So what? None of that is truth of consequence.
There are at least six truths of which I am aware that flat-earthers are just that. If the Earth's total landmass area [510M km squared] were spread in a flat rectangular plane, as on a paper map, we would still see the same exact sky from each of four corners.  Or, if a circle, from each 90-degree location around its circumference. Even if that surface area we're expanded by 1300x [as if Earth were the size of Jupiter, which is obviously also a spheroid], we would see the same sky. But, on the spherical Earth [it's actually an oblate spheroid, slightly larger at the equator than from pole to pole] from a distance of NYC to Cairo [about 6,900 miles along a diagonal because the two cities are not on the same latitude] a different sky of constellations is seen simultaneously. In winter, both cities are engulfed in night, simultaneously. From 35,000 feet and higher elevation in a jetliner, the curvature of Earth is obvious. I've personally seen it  dozens of times on flights to Asia and Europe, and it is not due to warped porthole windows because on the ground, straight things are still straight. No NASA, is not needed to obfuscate the truth with these two examples, and there are several others. To date, we have cataloged over 5,800 planets just in our galaxy. Every single one is a spheroid. It is what physical mass set in rotational attitude does - obeying ordinary astrophysical law. Oh, yeah, Earth rotates, and a flat-earth theory test intended to prove our non-rotation by measurement equipment measured, instead, a 15-degree movement over a 1-hour period. Coincidentally, 15 x 24 = 360; the circumference, in degrees, of Earth.  Those flat-earth  "scientists" claimed their equipment was faulty. Sure it was. That's why they used the equipment chosen to prove the "obvious," right? Oops. 

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@RemyBrown
Abandonment of due process? Whatever floats your boat.
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@Savant
You’ve just exhibited misunderstanding of superstition. It is not stupidity, it is belief that the supernatural, fate, or magic has influence resulting in fear of the unknown, or ignorance of what is known. Ignorance can be overcome by education, and fear is overcome by continued education and employing that education to become proficient, then express excellence in proficiency. Now do you get it? Do not stop learning. Education is a lifelong endeavor.
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@IlDiavolo
The Roman Empire did last about 500 years, but it was an autocracy, and neither a democratic republic nor communism/socialism as describe by the Communist Manifesto. But neither do you understand American politics, The people, collectively nation wide, do not elect directly the President, nor any member of Congress, House or Senate. There is no nationwide election, even for the President. He is elected by States only, as are Senators, and House Reps by district, so individuals have more direct voting control than you think. Only the media counts votes nationwide for President, but that s an unofficial count, and always has been.

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@AdaptableRatman
How do you define imperialism? I would suggest Jesus Christ founded Christianity, and I would not describe him as an imperialist. Nor a socialist, by the way. He was not political. He told Pilate his kingdom was not of this world, and when his kingdom is again on Earth, this Earth will have no other kingdom on it, upon his coming.
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@AdaptableRatman
God presumably did not intend us to be democratic
My guess is the Sermon on the Mount - among other things, the best political platform ever written. Jimmy Madison was after "a more perfect union," and the SotM is the most efficient means to get there.
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@IlDiavolo
Democracy --- "it's not sustainable over time."
The U.S. has been functioning as a democratic republic since before it was a sovereign state - about 400 years and counting. Show me a communists or socialist state that has performed as well. I'll wait while you research, but the winner, io date of that genre is China, at less than 100 years. But they're virtually capitalist by economy, not communist. They'd have collapsed already if their econ was communist, simply because that whole routine is missing the major ingredient: knowing how to create wealth, not just use it. USSR was failing at 70 years... Why do you think they have to steal out tech? Maybe because they can reverse engineer all day long, but forward new engineering? Not so much.
And by the way, who do you think is the premier EV producer for quality performance in the U.S. None other than Elon Musk, the guy the greenies attacked to burn him down. What sense does that make? Somebodies are deficient a head for clear thinking.
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@AdaptableRatman
Yes, on us, but you missed the other point: personal creation of wealth by the formula:  income = ambition + planning + execution. Sounds so simple, most ignore that it really works. That's how I've decided my primary investments are gold + silver, plus rental property that is mortgage free, and my house, which is also mortgage free, and this was all planned & executed beginning nearly 50 years ago, plus my writing/illustration income, which guys like clauswitzian thinks is entirely bogus, but I actually make more money on design & illustration than writing, and that, alone pays more than I was earning before I retired, and has been an income over the last 60 years. I sold my first canvas  [oil] when I was 14 for about $900, tor actor in my childhood neighborhood named Glen Ford, sold several more on that sale by referrals to other Hollowood folks, and has been steady income ever since.  I started publishing poetry in magazines when I was 15, but that is not a money-maker. Didn't write a novel until the late 90s, and never a non-fiction until 15 years ago. I now put out a fiction or non-fiction about once a year, swish several books in various stages of development now. I keep busy.
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