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@Mikal
Suggesting a path for town to take and then immediately must doing it without getting feedback about the thought really pings me as farming cred
Cool then you just have a bad read. Saying something is scummy doesn’t make it scummy. I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
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@Mikal
If posting little is a scum tell, you will scum read me in every game we play. I’ve probably posted twice as much this day phase than I have in most normal games entirety. I am a busy person and most people here know that I’m not super active. I’m trying to be better at it, but don’t expect me to post as much as you, or even a fraction of it.
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@Mikal
If posting little is a scum tell, you will scum read me in every game we play. I’ve probably posted twice as much this day phase than I have in most normal games entirety. I am a busy person and most people here know that I’m not super active. I’m trying to be better at it, but don’t expect me to post as much as you, or even a fraction of it.
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@Casey_Risk
Do you believe Earth’s claim? If so, why? If not, why not?
I am leaning towards believing it. The claim fits very well with the role, and it’s not the typical type of claim we are used to seeing with mafia who fake claim. I’d say I’m leaning towards it being legit, but my view may be tainted by Mikal’s pressure on him, and I feel like Mikal is being very opportunistic. Earth was lynched in Russian mafia too and was innocent there but I’m starting to see that he can tend to not make the best cases for himself and I think someone might take advantage of that behavior with earth.
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@Mikal
It’s not going after people that are easy mislynches. It’s that people on that list I either read as scummy or they are not active. Everyone is town reading you, how would you be an easy mislynch? I think I’m the only one scum reading you
It’s the complete lack of progress in your read. “Ana volunteered information unprompted”. I’ve responded many times explaining that I was pursuing information to lock scum down. I do not regret this action and even if you got me
Lynched for that reason right now I’d happily do it again in the next game, because it just isn’t a scummy thing and you are somehow trying to make it into one, yet every single person has complied with volunteering this information. Yet you repeat this scum reading over and over again as if it’s anything more than a talking point now.
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It’s not going after people that are easy mislynches. It’s that people on that list I either read as scummy or they are not active. Everyone is town reading you, how would you be an easy mislynch? I think I’m the only one scum reading you
It’s the complete lack of progress in your read. “Ana volunteered information unprompted”. I’ve responded many times explaining that I was pursuing information to lock scum down. I do not regret this action and even if you got me
Lynched for that reason right now I’d happily do it again in the next game, because it just isn’t a scummy thing and you are somehow trying to make it into one, yet every single person has complied with volunteering this information. Yet you repeat this scum reading over and over again as if it’s anything more than a talking point now.
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I think Mikal is going after targets he thinks will be easy mislynches and I do not like it. Not one bit.
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@Savant
If he's town, I suspect they would kill him last.
Exactly but they would still have to kill him. We let him get to lylo, if he gets that far we know he’s scum. Better than getting to lylo and having it be a gamble.
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@Savant
If he's town, I suspect they would kill him last.
Exactly but they would still have to kill him. We let him get to lylo, if he gets that far we know he’s scum. Better than getting to lylo and having it be a gamble.
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@Mharman
So, outside of Mikal, what are your thoughts on everyone else?
I probably won’t have time to write out an extensive reads posts this day phase. I’ve got a busy weekend, and have been trying to check in and read up when I can. I have to formulate my thoughts on people, I’ll provide a read list by day phase 2. For now I buy earths claim, I still think we should pressure Austin and moozer for activity. Moozer needs to claim since he’s been on now. Earth if he isn’t killed by the time we get late in the game we will know he’s likely scum, but I don’t think mafia would risk keeping him alive that long if he’s telling the truth and town.
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@Mharman
So, outside of Mikal, what are your thoughts on everyone else?
I probably won’t have time to write out an extensive reads posts this day phase. I’ve got a busy weekend, and have been trying to check in and read up when I can. I have to formulate my thoughts on people, I’ll provide a read list by day phase 2. For now I buy earths claim, I still think we should pressure Austin and moozer for activity. Moozer needs to claim since he’s been on now. Earth if he isn’t killed by the time we get late in the game we will know he’s likely scum, but I don’t think mafia would risk keeping him alive that long if he’s telling the truth and town.
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@Earth
If I fullclaim, would you stop deathtunneling me? Honest question.
Doubt it. He’s been death tunneling me for advocating for a mass soft claim. Something we’ve literally done in every single game. I don’t regret it either lol.
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Okay caught up. I don’t really know how to address your pressure Mikal. I would have sifted and asked for people’s sorts again if we were to reset the game right now. I guess you think it’s scummy, but I don’t. This is something we’ve done in every game. We now have people locked into a part of a claim which will make it harder for them to fake claim so I stand by the decision.
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@Casey_Risk
Genuinely, who here is 18 or around that age? I guess maybe Moozer or Banana, idk how old they are, but everyone else is certainly older.
I am 22
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@Mikal
Totally understand the logic just curious about why you did it unprompted. Suggesting it is one thing but suggesting and leading before you are asked too. Just a mental note.
If I didn't do it, I think someone else would have tbh
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@Mikal
Ana it is. I like being personal. Why did you feel the need to soft claim without being asked to?
I am trying to get the ball rolling by locking everyone into a soft claim early, its something we've been doing in about every game. If mafia have to lock in something about themselves now, it limits their ability to lie later on. If that makes sense. I soft claimed first since I was the one who suggested it.
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Are we doing the soft claim thing this time? Maybe we should state whether are game show started before the year 2000 or after. Mine was after 2000.
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Looks like game show is winning, so I'll choose marvels to be a rebel >:-)
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@ILikePie5
Lucky for us Banana clutched
Lol I didn't do that much this game, but glad I helped.
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I am ready to confirm my ability. I thought I did yesterday, but apparently there was too many votes so it didn't show up.
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@ILikePie5
Are you a 1x Double Voter or permanent double voter?
Permanent. My vote will always count as two.
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I am fine with that plan too. I am I am town, so we should win before we ever get to lylo anyways.
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I am okay with whiteflames lynch then since it confirms mharman, and it would be best to have a confirmed townie going into tomorrow. As far as wylted goes, I don't see a strong reason to lynch him other than people being skeptical of his role, it doesn't seemed based on behavior very much.
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@ILikePie5
Commuters cannot be target period.If Player A is the Hider and hides behind Player B and scum kill Player B, both the Hider (Player A) and Player B die. But if scum target Player A, Player A lives
Is it common for both of these roles to exist in the same game?
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I should mention my double vote does NOT go away at MYLO/LYLO.
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I’ll take pies side on this one because mharman did town read that2user. But I also don’t really care that much either who claims first
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My justification is that there was a user with this name and that’s why I am the double voter. Doesn’t make sense to me either.
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If we are mass claiming then I am the F-16 fighting falcon which is one of the most commonly used fighter jets. I am a double voter and my vote counts as two automatically but will not be reflected on a vote count. If someone is at l-1 and my vote is on them, they will appear to be lynched without all votes on them.
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My jet is fighting related. It also was the username of a person here according to bullish
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@Mikal
Also Bullish made a mistake in roll pms so I’m pretty sure I can break the game but I’m not saying what he did just yet because I want claims to be locked down first.
What mistake did you have?
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Hello everyone welcome to mafia!
Vtl Mikal since idk who that is
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Well that was a fun game. I need to get better at convincing people, but I am happy with how I played and sort of being on the right track, even though in the end I got it wrong. I am never trusting results again lol.
Good job to mharman and cerulean, they played very well. I think our activity was pretty bad, and I was busy for the first couple day phases so that was my fault, but yeah other than that I don't think town played horribly.
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@Mharman
Alright, I'll just vote earth. I don't think moozer is going to change his mind. Figured I would throw it out there.
vtl earth
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@Mharman
@Moozer325
So I told whiteflame I am basically willing to lynch earth. I am kind of hesistant only because mharman is voting earth and you know how I feel about mharman. That and I am being told by whiteflame this is mylo. There's two votes on earth, moozer and mharman, we know that moozer is town. The only reason mafia wouldn't have quickhammered this is if earth is scum, or mharman is scum. So looks like our 66% chance of finding scum is now more like a 50% chance right? I did point out the possibility that cerluean is scum and just too inactive to quick hammer, but for that to be the case I would have to be scum, which I know I am not. So while its possible earth is actually just scum here, and my result is correct and I am overthinking all this, I feel like it's all too easy....
After discussing it with whiteflame I suggested throwing out Cerluean as an option. Whiteflame mentioned that cerulean was who he thought was my partner earlier, since I've been pushing mharman, and my intentions coming into the day phase were on earth. So if I was scum logically cerulean would be my partner in this case. He also suspects earth of trying to bus cerulean here.
In both cases whiteflame seems to think cerulean is someone's scum partner, and since he thinks its between me and earth as scum and both of us are candidates to be ceruleans partner, I suggested cerulean as a good "meet in the middle" lynch. I am not going to be able to talk him into voting mharman, so that is off the table. But everyone seems to have cerulean in their POE as the partner.
So I'm throwing it out there as a last ditch effort, would either of you be willing to lynch cerulean today instead? We would need just one more person to be able to pull this off, otherwise it would be just me whiteflame and earth, and we'd be stuck 3 v 3 split. If either of you aren't willing to do this, I'm willing to just vote earth here, and theres a pretty solid chance he is just scum and I am overthinking everything. But the proposal is there. What do you think about cerulean as an alternative?
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@Moozer325
But wouldn't you have been notified when you got redirected? This is what I don't understand about the whole redirection thing, you targeted Luna, right? If you were redirected then you would get a result from someone else, not Luna.
No I dont think you get notified when you are redirected. For example if I was redirected to whoever carried the night kill, my result would still appear as if earth visited the night kill since I targeted him.
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@Moozer325
Why is no one claiming to be role blocked? Consider whiteflames role. If no one is claiming to be roleblocked, there either isn't a roleblocker, or whiteflame strengthened correctly twice in a row. If there isn't a roleblocker, what other roles would justify the existence of a town strengthener? This is why we are discussing the possibility of a redirector.
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@Moozer325
They could be, but there’s no way that both you and Earth are town.
If I was redirected, it could be. Also why wouldn't earth just say he actually visited Lunatic if he was scum, why go through the risk of making it me vs him when he could say "yeah I visited lunatic, but not as the night kill!" which throws everyone else in the pool.
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