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His cop claim seems bogus too. Hope others will see the writing on the wall with this one. Why did he wait so long to claim if he was odd night anyway? Makes no sense.
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His cop claim seems bogus too. Hope others will see the writing on the wall with this one. Why did he wait so long to claim if he was odd night anyway? Makes no sense.
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Yeah you are getting blocked. I don't have time for little boys with small egos and even smaller.... Well we all know ;-)
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@Casey_Risk
I was literally about to hammer and had explicitly said I was going to do so, but Wylted swooped in and stole the opportunity from me.Really, though, I want to hear your explanation as to why I'm likely scum. If I had followed through on my stated intentions to hammer WF, we both would have died and lost the game immediately. So, obviously I couldn't have followed through, but setting myself up to hammer only to not do so would only make me look incredibly suspicious. That goes beyond being a risky move into the realm of suicidal idiot territory. Do you really think that was my plan?
I don't presume to know what your plan was, all I can see is the consequences of what had actually happened. I am mostly suspicious of you to the fact that you and so many others think you should be confirmed, that seems a bit too good to be true to me. But I am mostly suspicious of pie, so I am mostly suggesting people look into you harder if for some reason pie isn't mafia.
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@Casey_Risk
I'd buy that argument more if Whiteflame was literally any other role than what he actually was. I wasn't just pushing him, but had actively positioned myself to be the one to hammer him. Again, why would I intentionally set myself up to be the one to hammer my Super Saint partner? That would literally lose us the game instantly.
It certainly looks good that you said you were willing to hammer him, but at the end of the day our doctor ended up being the one to actually do it. So I have a hard time giving you too much a pass on that.
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VTL pie.
I think the last mafia is between him and casey, but I find it really suspicious that mharman died, and he was the only one putting real pressure on pie to claim, and as soon as we get into day phase 2 everyone just stops caring about the fact that pie said multiple times he would on day phase 2 and just hasn't.
If I get lynched that is okay, I am kind of over this game anyway after everyone was rude to me day phase one, but as long as pie gets lynched in the end I'll be somewhat happy with the result of this game. I am pretty sure he is mafia, and my instincts have proven to be pretty good so far, so if anything, take that away from my contribution so far. Pie is probably scum, if not him my second guess is casey. Pie is leading the town and everyone is intimidated by him so no one will pressure him for a claim. He's not that scary guys. Lynch him.
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@Casey_Risk
Banana, I would like to know why you targeted me specifically.
It was between you and pie, I stated that I was suspicious of you a couple of times last day phase. Also I feel like people were letting you off the hook too easily for being on whiteflame, where we just had a game where austin and cerulean tried to frame each other. I probably should have targeted pie if I knew he was going to lie about his promise to claim the next day phase, like he repeatedly promised he would.
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@Casey_Risk
Banana, I would like to know why you targeted me specifically.
It was between you and pie, I stated that I was suspicious of you a couple of times last day phase. Also I feel like people were letting you off the hook too easily for being on whiteflame, where we just had a game where austin and cerulean tried to frame each other. I probably should have targeted pie if I knew he was going to lie about his promise to claim the next day phase, like he repeatedly promised he would.
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@ILikePie5
Why does mharman being gramps implicate me? I don't understand.
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I conducted a report on casey and was told he acted during the night
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@Vader
Activity pressure =/= scum readingPushing people to be active by getting them to claim makes it so that since they are inactive, they will have a harder time thinking of a claim if they are scum. If they aren't active, then you lynch dead weight. Scum reading for activity is scummy and anti town. And Pie's basis for voting you is not just because he voted you.
You are making a lot of assumptions about his vote, when he actually just voted you then dis-appeared. His behavior is 100% hypocritical. Him posting now does not erase the fact that he was bored and dis-interested when he was mafia a couple games ago, and seemed to be bored and dis-interested here, my original basis for scum reading him doesn't go away because he decided to be active in the last 24 hours of the day phase.
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@Mharman
Earlier I mentioned a bit of suspicion on casey, and owen was kind of mixed for me because he hasn't said a whole lot of anything meaninful. I kind of townread whiteflame, but ultimately pie is still my biggest suspicion.
As far as why you are suspicious of me you should re read back, because I was literally agreeing with you in the post where you said I was suspicious so I actually don't get why you are saying that.
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@Mharman
Yeah, I'm not viewing this conflict from that kinda lens. Absolutely not. The fact that you would go for an argument so illogical is a sign of desperation. Did I note that you didn't really defend yourself with any good arguments earlier? I think I did.
I am literally repeating the point you just made. What are you so mad about?
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@Casey_Risk
I think you're missing the broader point here. It's less the content of your argument and moreso the very aggressive nature of it, which is a typical scumtell. I'd associate a sudden aggressiveness from someone with them being likely scum regardless of gender or anything, all other factors being equal. The point is, we're trying to get claims from players here. I do want your claim, but I also want Pie's, and Mharman feels the same way. If you don't claim soon, you're likely just going to be lynched.
I don't think I am being aggressive. I am just being me. I reacted the same way when cerulean was pushing me too, I was town there. I don't think there is honestly any good reasons that I am being pushed, and no one is responding to my point logically, just saying I am being "aggressive" its pretty annoying.
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I am "welcome to the internet".
I am a reporter, because the internet gives us a little bit of everything all of the time, and we have the whole world of information at our fingertips. Each night I can select a player and I will be told if they acted at night or not.
I want pie to claim next.
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@Mharman
??? Or maybe he just didn't like his push on you. That's just OMGUS, and it happens male-to-male all the time. It's usually scummy, but it can be towny and now I'm thinking I might flip on you.What a horrible defense.
The gender part is what you latched onto, but the point remains the same. Could be the man accusing the woman and the woman doubling down.
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@ILikePie5
Y’all think this is normal behavior from Banana?
And you prove my point by not quoting the argument I made, and pointing out the part that you are insecure about. Thanks for proving me right. :)
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I am going to bed soon. I am not going to respond to pie's line by line thing he does ever. He's got his mind made up and that is that, I am not giving anything more. If you think that is enough basis to lynch me go ahead. In the meantime I am going to keep my vote on pie, because I stand by the fact that I think he is being overly defensive, and so far my instincts have served me well. This doesn't seem like normal behavior from someone who doesn't have something to hide.
It's like a woman catches a man cheating, he turns around and calls her the cheater, only for mountains of evidence to later come out that the man was indeed cheating. This type of thing literally happens all the time IRL, don't see why it would be different here. Pie is being extremely defensive.
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@Casey_Risk
I am fine with giving my character. I am "welcome to the internet". I am not giving more though, because I do not feel there is adequate reason for me to do so. What exactly about my post did you take issue with? My guess is that you expect a woman to respond to aggressive males like pie and be completely demure and submissive? Take your world view of women out the equation for a second and look at the argument on it's face.
I asked him if he wanted a cookie for posting a lot recently. Here's what happened. Pie was gone for 2/3 days of this phase. I voted him pointing out that this is strange from him, based on what I've seen. The only other mafia game I've seen from him he was bored/ dis-interested. For whatever that reason was, doesn't matter much, he was inactive, he was mafia end of story. I think that is a good baseline to be suspicious of him when he was way more active when he was town in the last game. And his response is that "I've made more posts than you now". What does that have to do with my initial vote? He's acting perplexed that I voted him to begin with when he had made 0 posts, the fact that he is spam posting now doesn't change why I originally voted for him. I am asking him if he wants a cookie, because he keeps repeating this argument as if it actually means anything...
The only other thing you could be referring to is that I called him a hypocrite, which I also stand by. He voted vader, then dis-appears. Vader was inactive when pie voted for him. He goes inactive immediately after. That is being a hypocrite. So you tell me what is wrong with any of what I said?
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@ILikePie5
Good job keep making posts then. I don't know if you want a cookie or something, but I was pressuring you for inactivity, is that not the exact same thing you pushed vader for? Why are you being a hypocrite? How are you not being defensive? You are begging for me to claim because I voted you, and that's the entire reason. Hope others can see the ridiculousness with what you are saying.
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@ILikePie5
I want to pressure Banana. Her claim that I was “disinterested” in one game is just plain wrong. The aggression is also a diversion from her behavior as town. Directly going from inactivity to scum and voting me is odd. Worrying about claiming DP1 is also something a noob scum would worry about
If my claim that you are dis-interested is wrong, feel free to prove it by being active. Aggression? Me placing a vote on someone and taking a stance is aggressive? If so you doubling down on voting me for voting you comes off as extremely defensive lol. I am literally voting you for the same thing I get voted for every game, and have been forced to claim on dp1 3 days in a row for. If multiple people want a claim I will give it, but I have been way more active than you so far and have made an honest effort this game at contributing more, so you will need a better reason than hurt pride if you want my claim.
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@Mharman
Thoughts on others’ behavior?
I think you are town, you have been kind of leading the town and trying to help solve things in a way that doesn't feel like you are trying to push a narrative, or trying to lead a mislynch. Wylted also feels town to me, and I think him not catching there was a theme split in the OP is probably another hint that he is town. Mafia should be distinctly aware of something like that right?
Whiteflame, hasn't hit me as town yet, but hasn't done anything to ping my radar yet.
Moozer keeps claiming he can confirm himself, I can buy that for now.
My thoughts on scum is loosely between pie, owen and vader. Owen has been active but I don't really see him doing anything impactful yet. Pie is the only one who hasn't posted so right now I am concerned about that. Vader has made an appearance so I will give him some time.
Lastly casey feels weird to me, pressing information from moozer when most people seem to be okay with him. And his activity hasn't felt meaningful. I could be swayed to vote for casey.
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@WyIted
I acknowledge you have good instincts. I guess what I want from you is 5 posts per DP where you over share your internal thoughts
I will do my best. My main thought at this time, is that I am a little surprised in pie's activity day phase 1. He seemed a lot more active in the last game, and seems dis-interested here. He was also dis-interested in Mayday mafia, where he happened to be mafia. it seems like he tends to be more active as town. It might be too early to draw that conclusion though as the game has been up for less than 24 hours at this point
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@WyIted
It's because you were really inactive last game and it's hard to get behavioral reads on inactive people.
I can't promise that will change, though I did say I will try to be more active. But I did town read you and was one of the only people trying to fight your innocent in the last game too. I was only wrong on the moozer lynch, but I helped lynch austin and would have gone after cerulean if I had been alive. I know I am a noob but I have good instincts for this stuff. Anyways, what would you like from me seeing as your vote is on me at the moment?
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@WyIted
vtl banana
Is this because I am new? Because I've had to claim in day phase 1 for the past three games in a row now. How long do new people have to do this for generally?
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Hello all. Checking in. What is everyone's familiarity with the theme? My lil brother used to watch Bo on youtube forever ago, that's about all I know of him. He seems kind of like an musical comedian?
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I'll sign up if there isn't any expectations of insane levels of activity. I get on when I get on, and I can post when I can post. That said I will try my best to be more active.
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@whiteflame
And this is why I killed Banana instead of Earth.Yep, made the right choice. She would have at least fought it, and props to you Banana, you really stepped up this game.
Thankyou! I was totally gonna go for cerulean if I had lived too. It's why I didn't argue with austin about his reasons for pursuing him, I thought they were trying to frame each other to make the other look good. I was going to tell bullish that I agreed with the idea they were on the same team when he mentioned it, but I figured if I did they would kill me. Turns out they killed me anyway :/
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@Bullish
need u here to vote
I am going to vote austin. I don't believe his claim and it is very similar to whiteflames. Plus whiteflame seemed to think the gladiator was town, even though I also don't fully buy cerulean, and I didn't like his wylted push last day phase, I can see motivation for austin to kill whiteflame if he had planned on getting cerulean lynched today. I know whiteflame was also confirmed by a result, but I think it's added motivation for austin to have targeted whiteflame. All his answers seem very predictable, but I don't like that he covered up a result last day phase, and I think his reasoning sounds very convenient. Like I said, I expected a lot of his answers to my questions, and frankly that just makes me more suspicious of him.. And I don't like how he was trying to use my own reasoning for suspecting cerulean last day phase against me, as if he came into the day phase expecting this to be the easier of the lynches.
All signs point towards austin here. I hope I am right.
vtl austin.
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@AustinL0926
You set this up for a lot of predictable answers, but I'd like to hear in your own words why you didn't expose your results last day phase, and why you targeted cerulean last night?
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@Bullish
yeah man austin scum, he had results that corroborated Wylted's action, but refused to claim. Not a town motivated action.
No you are right, this feels very weird to me...
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@AustinL0926
If Bullish, WF, Cerulean, and banana, all want me to claim, I will do so by the end of the day.
I vote in favor of you claiming. Many people are scum reading you, and if you are town, it's probably best to get some sort of indication of that before going into the night phase and having everyone use roles on you to figure that out themselves.
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@whiteflame
Still, I can't say I understand a push on Cerulean here. Banana, Cerulean's role literally makes the DP a heads-up between two players, so it's a given that he'd have to pick a target and use his role on them, partially to confirm his role and partially because, frankly, WyIted was in a lot of peoples' potential scum pool at the end of the last DP. I'll note that he was also pretty thorough in giving his reasoning for every player still left in the game. I get that he pushed on you last game, though I just don't see his push in the same light this time. I can see a world in which Cerulean is somehow a scum Gladiator, but that would be new to me and I haven't seen a good reason to cast him in that light yet.
It's more about how confident Cerulean is about Wylt being mafia, doing the whole big case against him and just deciding that wylted is scum and being so confident of it to use his role on him. And why would wylted not just lie about his watcher results if he was mafia? His reaction to all this seemed genuine, but I don't know him that well either. I just don't see why he would claim to watch the person who was night killed and say he doesn't have a result instead of faking it to get a a lynch if he was mafia, he came into this day phase level headed and willing to consider all options and didn't have an agenda. It's not so much that I am "pushing" cerulean but more that it's the only option he left us with, and between him and wylted, wylted seems to be more town here. Is cerulean ability a role that is commonly town sided?
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Okay, I just caught up. And I hate to be the one to prevent the lynch, but I do not think Wylted is mafia. His actions don't really make a lot of sense, why would he claim to be an investigative role and not have results on the person he watched get killed? And he was the one who seemed willing to consider other options for mafia, and at the start even considered that cerulean was innocent. It was only after cerulean doubled down on him and made a case against him that wylted committed to voting cerulean and he was proposing to vtnl before that. Ceru to me feels more likely to be mafia here. I don't like the way he comes in and again just doesn't seem to be considering other options, just seems to know that wylted is mafia. He did the same thing with me in the last game, and just like last game made a big case and drew out all the reasons wylted would be mafia and doesn't seem to considering at all that he could be town. Anyways, I don't really like this lynch, and if I had to pick between the two here, I am getting flashbacks from the last game, so
VTL cerulean.
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@WyIted
I'll vote moozer, he should have used his role better, and it's very suspicious of him. VTL moozer.
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vtl owen for not claiming miller. Earth claimed miller right away in the last game. And hes calling ME scummy for the only sin of not posting, look at the pot calling the kettle black.
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@Owen_T
Activity wise, she's been far less active, only popping I to provide a vague time frame, and then again when she was under pressure for her vagueness, but didn't actually give a better awnser.
I wasn't even going to sign up for this because It's too time consuming and i am tired of people complaining about my activity, but pie was begging me. I told you guys there I wouldn't be that active. If you want to lynch me because I am not super active, then enjoy the mislynch, but this is kind of bogus reasoning.
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@Owen_T
I'd still like to know your genre.
I already claimed my whole role Idk what you want from me. I guess it's romance, drama, war, thriller, suspense, film-noir, and a dash of comedy. There I googled it for you.
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@ILikePie5
You need to full claim. State your character, role, and justification.
Hmm fine... I am casablanca and my role is a vanilla townie. I have no special abilities.
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@Owen_T
I'd like to get AnaBanana's genre or five year time frame.
I posted a ten year time line I think already
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@WyIted
Next person to post is gay
Looks like Cerulean is... 0.o
And of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world he walks into mine!
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