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@n8nrgmi
Yes I would call those spiritual experiences. They are often very hard to explain
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@EtrnlVw
Thank you for sharing hopefully we can get some other posters to share their experiences as well.
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@EtrnlVw
And the beings I have met have been felt(or percieved I guess) and not seen.
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@EtrnlVw
I don't tend to have many "visions" like these, mine tend to be more of a perceptual nature. Feelings that can't be described in words. Energy. I have had a few visions though, the most vivid being geometric shapes and religious symbols.
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@ludofl3x
It sounds like this is something you hope is true, which is why you believe it's true. Is that unfair to say? I mean you yourself are saying you 'assume' it's there. Maybe if I understood a little more how you think your own experience as a living being includes the understanding that you have a soul?
I'm not so sure I "hope" it's true. Especially if my soul is immortal. That kind of sounds like hell to me.
My experience as a living being shows me there is something more to "me" than just by body. Such as my experience with an almost-obe where I died and nearly left my body. Also, it just "feels" like There is more to me than just my body
If you can't speculate on a purpose, then how do you assume it's there by necessity in all living things? What makes the soul a necessity, I guess. How would your assessment of life in general look if there wasn't a soul involved? What do you think would be missing that a soul and only a soul can fill?
I don't think life could exist at all if there were no soul to fill a body. There would simply be inanimate matter, nothing that metabolizes, grows, reproduces etc.
Couldn't we then say that what's special to all things in this way, all living things, is not a soul but LIFE ITSELF? We all have it. It's only special to us, though. THe bacteria for example does not in any way care about the soul of a houseplant.
I define life as matter imbued with the motive force, which I call the soul. I believe this motive force doesn't have to have a body to exist, but a "living" body must have a soul.
As for caring, we tend to care about ourselves and those around us who are important to us, most do not care about too many others. A bacteria that makes up part of our body probably doesn't care about "us", but probably would if it were capable of realizing it was a part of a larger whole.
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@keithprosser
Do you really think this civilization will last that long? I don't know. But if it does, then I would have to agree with you it is likely the case.
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@ludofl3x
What leads you to make that assumption?
My own experience as a living being with a soul. I just assume everyone else has one too. Which probably includes dogs, jellyfish,and even individual bacteria that form my body.
And what do you think the purpose of a jellfish's soul, for example, would be?
I can't really speculate here on a purpose, there is no real indication of what a living being's purpose might be. Why did God create us? I don't know. Could have been lonely, bored, any number of things.
If all living things have it, then it's not special, wouldn't you say?
Probably not. Perhaps special in the way our own children are special to US.
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@keithprosser
I am sure there are vital parts of the body that must be real in order to sustain a living sould. I don't know what those might constist of though.
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@ludofl3x
I would assume that they do. But it's hard to tell in some cases what is going on, such as colonies, symbionts, viruses, siamese twins, and things of that nature.
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@keithprosser
Yes, I agree that is the case(of what people tend to think these days). I think this is because we are now entering the age of aquarius, which is the age of man.
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Describe your most memorable spiritual experience, if you don't mind sharing.
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@EtrnlVw
But you know they will want something to "measure" and weigh, because that is the nature of materialists.
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@keithprosser
Besides being the "I" or consiousness, the soul is also the vitality of a living being. No soul, no vitality, no living being. That is not to say a soul must inhabit a body.
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@Ramshutu
I apologize for my misunderstanding.
Why is the idea of a soul not "valid", in your opinion?
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@Ramshutu
I didn't make up the idea of souls. How ridiculous. This idea goes back thousands of years-perhaps tens of thousands. You are dismissing thousands of years of spiritual understanding,
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@Ramshutu
I am not trying to prevent you from having your "intellectual discussion". Discuss silliness with whomever you can get to join along with you.
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@Ramshutu
Because it is a fact.
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@keithprosser
Robots are not imbued with a vital soul, and never will be. Therefore no consciousness or free will.
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The golden calf is probably a representation of the age of taurus.
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I don't know how many atheists belive that. None that I know do.
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Sacred geometry, in story form.
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@zedvictor4
I'm not sure. He says he lives in his van, or he used to anyway. I don't know what he does for a living, he may have a grant of some kind.
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@ludofl3x
for anyone who hasn't seen the monkey and the grapes video
I love the part where he throws the cucumber at the lady lol
(yes I know I am a horrible person lol)
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@ludofl3x
Slightly off topic, but I wonder if the monkey would give a grape to a stranger who only got cucumbers....now, that would really show they understood fairness
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@ludofl3x
Yes, I have seen the monkey and the grape video, it really does seem like they understand fairness. But I am unsure if they can understand the concept of good and bad,aside what they want for themselves.
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@Mopac
I like you mopac. I appreciate your contributions to the forum. I just don't agree with everything you believe.
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Is our knowledge of good and evil the main thing that sets us apart from animals?
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@keithprosser
Religion exists because God exists.
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@zedvictor4
Actually, I don't think he has a salary.
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@Alec
Thanks. I found a local school that teaches seperate women's self-defence. I think i might try it, if it isn't too expensive.
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Skyrim, Age of Empires, Diablo 2, Super Mario Brothers 3, badminton
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@RationalMadman
The only randomness is why specifically the parts of reality are the parts that they are.
I don't understand what you're saying here.
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@Ramshutu
I am talking about the article I posted a link to, not the op
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@Ramshutu
So ignore all that if you want to. That's fine. What about the pattern of the tangents.
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@Ramshutu
No I am not. Because I can't explain something that I feel intuitively isn't the fault of god.
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