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@Stronn
Yes I read that.
This article is eight years old. I wonder if the theory has been tested during this time, but I couldn't find anything else on the subject. I am also wondering if they are genetically identical, they should know that by now.
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Many species of identical organisms found at the poles
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@Goldtop
If you experienced God for yourself, it would probably be compelling.
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@Mopac
Ok, but I don't know what that has to do with your version of Truth.
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@Mopac
I haven't studied Christianity in real depth. I am always willing to learn, though.
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@Stronn
The canonical numbers are what was meant to be, the standard, the design. When that is translated into the material, dynamic bodies what do you expect?
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@Mopac
You asked if Christianity will go "the way of pisces" in this new age of aquarius.
As in, end.
Still not really sure what you mean by these ages. What makes the transition from one of these ages into another any different than the transition from September to October?
Like with the year, there are seasons to the Precession.
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@Goldtop
What would be compelling evidence?
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@Goldtop
The only reason I replied was you stated that "experience" was evidence.
I don't think that my testimony is evidence. Or anyone else's.
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@Mopac
So why do you associate Christianity with the age of pisces?
From dreams I've had. Also note other Age's have had their sign's symbols as religious icons. The ram, the bull come to mind.
What do you believe the age of pisces means or implies?
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. Pisces marks the transition between the beginning and the end of the Precessional cycle. Aries, the ram or lamb, is a part of this transition(the beginning).
What do you believe the age of aquarius means or implies?
I am not sure yet. I think of it as the Age of Man. And a pouring out of a change in consciousness for mankind.
Why do you refer to these ages as ways?
I am not sure what you mean.
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@Mopac
The Precession of the Equinoxes. It is a 26000 year cycle, divided into twelve "months" or ages. Each lasts about 2000 years. We are at he end of Pisces, and near the beginning of aquarius. The man with the water pitcher.
"As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters"
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@Mopac
when did the Age of Pisces start? was it 2000 years ago? When did Christianity start? Was it 2000 years ago?
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The fish symbolism of Christianity denotes the Age of Pisces. Will Christianity go the way of Pisces, as we enter the Age of Aquarius?
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@Goldtop
This thread is about sacred numbers,and how studying them will bring you closer to understanding the universe. When you do, the Universe will help you in your understanding.
You can start with the solar system:
In CANONICAL numbers:
Moon 1080 miles radius
Moon 2160 miles diameter
Sun 432,000 miles radius
Sun 864,000 miles diameter
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@Goldtop
I experienced God two times, and He communicated with me. He changed my consciousness to do this.
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@Goldtop
You can start with the number 108. it is in the series 3 cubed, or 27, 54, 108, 216, 432, 864
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Study and contemplate the sacred numbers,and you will get closer to understanding the universe.
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@RationalMadman
I agree.
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@RationalMadman
Truly God is real, communicates with us and is directly involved.
yep.
I don't think I've heard the term "gnostic theist" before.
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@secularmerlin
s your goal to convince atheists that god exists? That may be a futile endeavor in most if not all cases but that certainly isn't the only possible goal one might have for presenting an argument. I don't expect I shall convince any theists that the available evidence does not support their claims but it isn't a futile endeavor to debate with theists about the subject. Even if we both remain unconvinced of the others position it gives one sonething to think about. Also if I make even one friend (and I concider you my friend so I have) then the process was far from futile.
Sometimes it is my goal, with certain people.
I guess what I'm really trying to say janesix is thank you for being you☺
Thanks SM, I consider you a friend as well
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@EtrnlVw
Again, the universe is not the originator, the Creator is.
why do you think that?
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@EtrnlVw
So you do take a materialist worldview of the universe?
I take a naturalistic view.
Not if there was a materialistic process of the universe. There would be no moral authority.
Why not?
How did the universe create our solar system by itself and all that is within it? and why would it have any preference for conscious entities for them to grow? rather the universe shows evidence that is was created for conscious entities, not the other way around, if first was a mindless universe conscious entities would be irrelevant . If God were a natural function of the universe it would be the universe that is God, correct?
I didn't say the universe was mindless. I said the opposite. The universal mind is the Universe/God. And that would include all the minds in the universe.
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@EtrnlVw
But why not panENtheism? meaning that God is not just the universe but just before it.....what put the universe in motion from a conscious reality? Can you give me a reason to think God is JUST the universe and not the Creator of it?
Give me an example then, so I know what abnormal looks like.
I think that the universe may be a natural phenomenon. God is our moral authority, and the Universe created the solar system so conscious entities would have a place to grow spiritually. God and the Universe are both parts of the natural functioning o the universe,and we are a part of that.
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@EtrnlVw
So...you would lean towards a materialistic process?
I lean towards a being I call the Universe, who I think is part of the fabric of the universe itself.
Wouldn't that what be what God does? if God was not the originator of existence what does that qualify God as? or does it qualify as "God"?
The normal idea of God is the Creator. I don't have the normal idea of God.
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@EtrnlVw
I am not sure if the universe was created. I think the solar system probably was.
I don't know if God is the creator.
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@Outplayz
It is possible EVERYTHING is a natural part/process of the universe.
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@EtrnlVw
That's fine. It's not something important enough for me to continue arguing over anyway.
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@EtrnlVw
I disagree that testimony is evidence.
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@EtrnlVw
Sorry, I just have to disagree.
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@Mopac
It's hard to say why Goldtop trolls the forums. It could be any number of reasons. I feel sorry for him, to have that much bitterness.
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@EtrnlVw
Spirituality is between you and God. And me and God. It is an individual process.
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@Outplayz
I am not 100% convinced it was God who designed the solar system.
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@Goldtop
I am not surprised you don't see design. That would disrupt your worldview. You need to hold on to that at all cost.
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@EtrnlVw
I already told you, testimony isn't evidence.
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@EtrnlVw
No, there isn't more evidence for God than anything else. There is very little evidence. Otherwise everyone would agree.
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@Goldtop
It's value is in it's evidence of design. What are you not getting about that fact?
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@EtrnlVw
Testimonial evidence for which God? Or are you lumping in all Gods throughout history together?
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