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In short, I can imagine a possible world where the mind could have it's own set of separate interactions that are at the top of the deterministic chain and not affected by ALL of the same rules as the external world.

One recent thought I've had on this subject goes as follows:   If we assume that everything is deterministic, should we not then ask in what way it's deterministic?

 Actually "iff" is an abbreviation commonly used in mathematics as shorthand for "if and only if". It means a logical implication goes both ways. X iff Y doesn't just mean if X is true then Y must be true. It also means that if Y is true then X must be true.Reality is Observed Time { /\/\/ } i.e. quantized by humans.ergo fermions,  bosons ---and possible hew hybrid third catagory--- or any aggregate collection thereof.

Stronn, thanks for the clarification. I had no idea. Not sure if that changes any of the bottom line meaings my comments, as stated.

If the Universe we live in is as finite, occupied space as 2D triangle /\ or as finite as a 3D tetrahedron \Y/, then what exists outside of { beyond } that finite occupied space Universe can only be rational loigical common sense conclusion, and that is eternally existent macro-infinite, non-occupied space.

This simple concept to grasp yet so few can grasp this concept much less ackowledge the truth of such statement. Whys is that? Ego.

Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and macro-infinite non-occupied space eternally exist in complement to our finite, occupied space Universe.

This is a simple minimal brainer for those who do not have an ego based mental blockage to rational, logical common sense truths.

What I would say is, "please give me an example of an absolute truth".

I agree with your definition.

Then you are a wise person. :--)

But when Obama separated children then it was somehow "moral?"

I'm not familiar with the details regarding Obama, but my guess is were considering two differrent sets of circumstances and that is most likely why it has not reached the level of critical considerations that Trumps has received.

and I recently heard some ICE{?} official say the Trump policy made errors in that respect and their trying take better approach now.

Maybe he lacks something more substantial than moral integrity to declare Trump a criminal.

Huh? Not sure why your on this nonsense path of trying to associated Muellers moral integrity somehow being correlated to to any criminal activity of the immoral, narcissistic, pathalogical liar with socipathic tendencies.

It appears you do not watch tv have no idea what has been reported in the Mueller report of that last week.  That is a problem for Trumpanzees who dont watch tv or only watch FOX propagand machine for Trump.

You really need to broaden your base of data harvesting and get out from behind the 8-ball regarding whats in the Muller report.

There is no correlation between gun count and sanity. 

History has shown that more guns tend to lean towards more security and less tyranny from governments.

  This is why the UK has huge gun restrictions and as a result, they are a police state.

I'm surprised you would even care about god, since I think you insulted him a bunch of time on DART, although I am not sure.

No correlation.

Yes.  The murder rate has been falling as gun ownership has been increasing.

Every society that has banned guns has had their murder rate skyrocketed and their governments become tyrannical.

  Many societies that I can think of took away, "assault weapons" and their governments are tyrannical now.

Are you angry that Mueller did not find any collusion in his report?

Does Mueller lack the moral integrity to declare Trump a criminal?

Yes that's right, less redacted is correct, not unredacted.

True intelligence is in the form of gullibility and critical thinking,  but it also has to do with experience.

It also has to do with moral integrity i.e.,

1} i, those who choose to be ignorant of the data, and truth when presented to them and,

2} to lazy to do any critical thinking, so ...go with the political flow... wherever it may go, as long my{ their } baseline is not obviously being adversly affected { tho they may not realize it is being affected because of their lack critical thinking of complicated issues }.

"Experience" is example of common sense empathy shared by most people and that is  why Trumps seperating parents from children at the southern border was obvious blunder of empathetic concerns by empathetically dis-inclined Trumpanzees.

I think the phrase "Western Values" is typically associated with classic liberalism. Freedom, autonomy, and individualism are typically central.

"Oriental Values" ...family.....

and "Indigenous Values." latter typically implicates spirituality, reciprocity, and oneness (with nature).....karma....

Death is an end.

The end of a finite integral we call a biological aka soul.

The end of a time period not the end of time.

Time { quantized reality } eternally exists in complement  to;

1} occupied space gravity ( ),

2} occupied space dark energy )(,

3} non-occupied space,

4} metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex absolute truths.

The problem is that you're claiming that your view is representative of atheism.

Your  blowing a lot of meaningless hot air, until you can actually;

1} clarify you definition of what your God is specifically,

2}offer elaborating description of what your God is specifically.

You have done neither ergo this thread is meaningless hot { empty } air { mental constructs }.

Metaphysical-1, spirit-1 ergo suspicious { lack of integrity } spirit-of-intent at best and lacking in any philosophical search for truth at worst.

The truth exists for those who seek it.  Ive yet to see Fallenese search for truth in earnest.

If you don't believe there is an ultimate reality,

The source of all evil is religion.

False.  Altho the word evil may have its source in religous texts.

The words of music have power. As does  the intonation of  words.

Music is not evil. A particular aspect of an ego is the source of so called 'evil'.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.

The Aborigines pass on the history via a trinary set of narrative, theater and music.

When you're ready to present purely logical arguments without ad hominems, let me know.

#331 and your ego will not allow you to concede the only rational logical common sense conclusion to my statement.

Not a shred of logic in the lot.

This sounds promising.  If you "don't know" but merely "believe" then how can you insist that everyone who disagrees is a fool?

,.,nobody cares....

  (IFF) your conclusions are logical (THEN) show your logic.

Do you really not understand that space and time are fundamentally inseparable?

Now you get it.  This is your error.  This is exactly what I'm trying to point out to you.

M-Tard.... IFF you{ 3Ru7al do not believe we  live inside a 3D Universe...

.......3r7....That's not what I'm disputing here.  I'm pointing out epistemological limits.

The first law of thermodynamics describes how energy behaves from our perspective.  This apparent behavior does not "prove" energy is "eternal".

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Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm not disputing that "finite occupied space-time" is finite and occupied.

This part we agree on.

  This is knowable.

Yeah - everything I have said is factually accurate. Unfortunately for you.

So no - FBR is not particularly more dangerous than other nuclear power plants - which are increasingly safe.

While hardly comprehensive, the test "is considered a good indicator of general cognitive ability," the researchers note.

You have absolutely no way of knowing any of this.

(IFF) there is "space-time" "outside" of our "finite occupied space-time" you have absolutely no way of knowing (IFF) it is "occupied" or not.

3R7....You have not established that "finite space-time" is "inside" "any-thing"

AND you have not established it is "eternally existent".

3R7.....You have presented no logical support for this claim (bald assertion).

The only long term economical power plants are 10-20 years out even with substantial investment into R&D.

The video does not discount the dangers of nuclear waste, it simply states fatalities

They cannot count fatalies  or detriment to environment in future scenarios where anything can happen to those wastes and especially considering the on-site storage that is happening currently and that currently is in place because no one has figured a good way to deal with waste for thousands of years.

There are no on-site coal waste storage that will irradiate people 500-1000 years from now.

This is where the some believe the breeder reactors come in as,  part of nuclear waste solution.  So UCC Scientist dont believe that Indias 6 breeders will ever be completed. So does that leave France to be leaders of fast breeder reactors? Any chance of France having issues with breeder reactors from whatever sources?

It is one thing to have a bunch of hydrogen bombs --or electronic blasts or other---   go off around the world and it is another thing if those happen with the addition of tons and tons and tons of nuclear waste storage sitting around on site or even in underground cave that is hopefully far from underground freshwater aquifiers.

The bottom line is, we have way too many humans for the systems we have in place, and you and others have only a narrow short-sighted view ability anticipate what issues may occur or may occur in future.

Take away condoms and sex education free safe or paid for sex between consenting adults and where does that leave humanity? With their head in the ass hoping Jesus will save them or that good Chuck Norris types will swoop in save all of humanity from the bad humans types.

She said Barr lied because he did not agree with Mueller about the report having troubling concerns about the president. That's an opinion, not a lie.

When you declare that "occupied space-time" is surrounded by "infinite" "unoccupied space-time" you have zero basis in either science or logic to make such a claim.

Books that are too Cursed to read  

"A Bad Place" by Dean Koontz.  I was semi-sick with cold in winter with a wood stove, and finally could not deal with my consciousness when reading that book, so part way into decided that the consciousness portrayed in that book was putting me in such a bad place, I threw that book in the woodstove.

Must read books:

1} "Critical Path".... R B Fuller 1981

What do you think about the claims in the documentary. Are they accurate?

The problem, of course, is that if every country does this then all countries will be one step closer to developing a nuclear weapon.

That is true. However, economics will shift more towards using uranium for fuel rather than for weapons that probably won't be used, a "swords for plowshares" kind of situation.

I call this consciousness "God."

....once we get onto the supernatural, you become emotional and illogical.......

Nothing can only be nowhere and can only have no size and no shape and exist for no time period.

D-Pirate----I don't think there's an actual number or number range for how often people have to be wrong or misleading before you can consider them full of shit.

Typical Trumpanzee rhetoric that stems from there immoral,  pathological misleading Trumper King of narcissism.

Nothing can only be nowhere and can only have no size and no shape and exist for no time period.