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@Fallaneze
The only alternative you've offered that hasn't already been said is an eternal universe.
see 1s law of thermodynamics.....my translationn as .occupied Space cannot be created nor destroyed my translation
All evidence points to the Big Bang so this isn't a good alternative.
That evidence only goes to within 380,000 years of BB and still says nothing about what BB event { WOW! } actually was . It was not the creation of occupied Space. Something does not come from nothing. It is presumtion with no evidence much less any rational, logical common sense.
It is this kind of thinking that leads to be people creating a divined God existent outside of our eternally existent, finite, occupied Space Universe.
Some theories scenarios are going to be based on observation and rational, logical common sense than others. We have no evidence to believe physical { cosmic laws/principles } are not eternally existent ex there can never exist more that five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.
Ergo terminal absolute truth ending of one line of the story.
The other theories all fall under either chance, free will, or physical law.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Nothing I hate more than women are magical creatures bs. Gives you an excuse to not treat them like people.
PLease share when you actually have any rational, logical common sense that addresses comments as stated, not as you falsely project them.
Woman is more complex than man is pretty simple straight forward statement and is obvious that, for what ever reason, some peoples mind will not accept obvious truths. Is ego the problem? Most likely but how the ego is involved is more complicated.
"magical" = divine{?}
Di = two ( 2 ) in greek
Vine = woody plant growth along or under surface of ground and will grow vertically to get closer{?} to the sun.
Woman { Xx } di/2 sex chromosomes and responsible gestation and birth of new human into Universe.
...most complex duhh, simple conclusion.....
Man { Xy } di/2 sex chromosomes and funtions to seed/fertizatize of egg.
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@Nd24007
History is written by the winners
Fuller follows along this avenue of Kennedys thought below in his book Critical Path.
Stating that the WW1 was about who was going to control the world mineral resources via sea superiority. I just finished reading Clive Cussler adventure novel --"The Spy"-- with Dreadnoughts and spys being the central theme. I have never heard of Dreadnaughts before reading his book. An ok read that reminded me of Doc Savage { 1933 }
..."Arms races
...."No, he’s not a mash-up of Superman and Batman; rather, he’s Clark (Doc) Savage, Jr, a character created in 1933 by Lester Dent. And he actually served as inspiration for Superman and Batman.
.....The German-British naval arms race drastically intensified after the 1906 launch of the HMS Dreadnought, a revolutionary battleship that made all previous battleships obsolete.
...A major naval arms race in shipbuilding developed, related to the concept of new imperialism, furthering the interest in alliances. Kennedy argues that both nations adopted U.S. Rear Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan's conclusion that control of the oceans was vital to a great nation. (Kennedy, 1997)"..
...Savage’s height of popularity was during the chaos of the Depression and World War II. (He also experienced a brief resurgence through reprints of the original novels during the Vietnam era.)
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"we learn the most from our mistakes"...Bucky Fuller
..."Human history has been shaped by the continual growth and success of greed. City-states were the first institutions to make organised use of extortion (p. 68).
....This was then followed by the growth of international trade, which appropriates the wealth of the planet for its own ends. Corruption in the form of "lawyer-capitalism" has led the U.S.A. to become effectively bankrupt (p. 114). Government subsidies given to corporations amount to socialism (p. 101).
Eventually the U.S. taxpayers will be asked to make "free-of-risk" bail-outs of "private" enterprises— Fuller, p.87
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@secularmerlin
Same story with mesons predicted existence, to which Richard Feynman shouted out from back of the audiencce "in a pigs eye", and of course he late had to eat his pigs eye comment.i believe I have already explained my feelings about presuposition.
..."Predicted theoretically in 1935 by the Japanese physicist Yukawa Hideki, the existence of mesons was confirmed in 1947 by a team led by the English physicist Cecil Frank Powell with the discovery of the pi-meson (pion) in cosmic-ray particle interactions.
Same goes with black holes that are pretty much confirmed as the powerful source at centers of many if not all galaxies.
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@secularmerlin
What is a "specific act of divinity"? Indeed what is "devinity"? Is it not a part of nature should it exist at all?
Biological existence is act of divinity and more specifically complex humans with their metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/conceptual ability to conceptually place themselves outside of a conceptually finite l Universe as if they were a God.
All that exists ---ex Cosmic Trinity-- is nature, if not specifically just all occupied Space
Di = greek for two { 2 }
Vine = : a plant whose stem requires support and which climbs by tendrils or twining or creeps along the ground
Vines ex English ivy, Poison ivy, Maypole { virginia creeper } all will grow vertically on any tree, post etc. Why? To get closer to sunlight?
Woman {Xx } 2{ di } sex chromosomes
Man { Xy } 2{ di } sex chromosomes
Vertical |__ is to live as horizontal ___ is to die.
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OMG one of idio-umps best just resigned so as not to be fired by idio-ump.
Price, S. Oruitt, Ryabn Zinske, Rex Tillerson, Jeff Sessions and a few others and this is just the cabinet.
Can anybody say banana republic-cans? They are not on track to do anything of significant relevance and good for the USA people as idio-ump steers the banana ship off the world track of responsible being reliable and sane nation.
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I think you have your threads crossed.Why do you keep responding? This discussion is over. You solution to poverty is to redistribute wealth. I get that. Been done for the last zillion years and has never worked. There will always be poor people, always. It's up to the individual whether they want to be one of the poor.
This is the "woman is more complex than man" thread twhere you posted more insignificant and irrelevant info{?}.
Here I'll try this again.
"Sometimes you have to bow to the absurd"
The only absurdity is that you cannot accept what are obvious truths, address facts when clearly presented to, or begin to offer any rational, logical common sense that is of any significant relevance. Go figure and come back wheh you actually have any shred of rational, logical common sense.
..."CONCLUSIONS:
....High frequency heart rate spectral power (associated with parasympathetic activity) and the overall complexity of heart rate dynamics are higher in women than men. These complementary findings indicate the need to account for gender-as well as age-related differences in heart rate dynamics. Whether these gender differences are related to lower cardiovascular disease risk and greater longevity in women requires further study.".
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@3RU7AL
Because no rational, logical common sense 'origin' explanations exist.An explanation as to how these laws originated is beyond our epistemological limits.But back to the second, tougher half of our original question: Could the laws of physics themselves, and not just the constants sewn into them, be changing? “That’s much harder to say,” says Carroll, who points out that there are different degrees of disruption to consider. If the rules of some “sub-theory” of quantum mechanics, like quantum electrodynamics, turned out to be fluid, maybe existing theory could accommodate that. But if the laws of quantum mechanics itself are in flux, says Carroll, “That would be very bizarre.” No theory predicts how or why such a change might happen; there is simply no framework from which to investigate the question.But back to the second, tougher half of our original question: Could the laws of physics themselves, and not just the constants sewn into them, be changing? “That’s much harder to say,” says Carroll, who points out that there are different degrees of disruption to consider. If the rules of some “sub-theory” of quantum mechanics, like quantum electrodynamics, turned out to be fluid, maybe existing theory could accommodate that. But if the laws of quantum mechanics itself are in flux, says Carroll, “That would be very bizarre.” No theory predicts how or why such a change might happen; there is simply no framework from which to investigate the question.
Cosmic laws/principles are eternal, Ex there can only exist, for eternity, five and only five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.
No amount of hand waving or hoky pokey can change eternal truths.
Lee Smolin --"3 Roads To Quantum Gravity"-- attempts to allow for the finite set of cosmic laws to not be so cosmic afterall with his multiverse or bubble verse local universes popping into existence with black holes.
He actually goes into this more in his first book, that I forget the name as I do his last book.
...."But back to the second, tougher half of our original question: Could the laws of physics themselves, and not just the constants sewn into them, be changing?
...“That’s much harder to say,” says Carroll, who points out that there are different degrees of disruption to consider. If the rules of some “sub-theory” of quantum mechanics, like quantum electrodynamics, turned out to be fluid, maybe existing theory could accommodate that. But if the laws of quantum mechanics itself are in flux, says Carroll, “That would be very bizarre.” No theory predicts how or why such a change might happen; there is simply no framework from which to investigate the question.
...As far as we can tell, the universe seems to be playing fair"..
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@Swagnarok
Banana Republic-cans still have a fighting chance to make significant course corrections.The Republican Party itself is RINO.
Duhh, actually no, they dont. That is why Paul Ryan and many others are not coming back.
The bananas are rotting in the belly of the ship and the Rats are multiplying day-by-day.
Who is the "Weakest Link"? Victoria Morales? Roger Stone? Idio-ump? Pence?
Pence may be the weakest link since he appears to have the least amount of spine.
Why was he even sitting in that room with idio-ump Schumer and Pelosi?
That was significantly bizarre and telling about the 2nd in command. YIKES!
Just as Bush dont look quite so bad relative to idio-ump, idio-ump will not look quite so bad related to Pencil Spine/Brain.
Its all relative and banana republic-cans relatives are getting stranger and more fermented by the day.
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@3RU7AL
(THEN) intelligence is proportional to moral culpability
Morals stem only from metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts via{ preceded by } emotional { sensorial/consciousnss } experiences.
Ego * i * is base reference for morals and the knowledge that other egos * i * exist.
Golden Rule Variations On Earth
Space-time Rule? ---Pee-Here-Now is rendition of Ram Dass’sBe-Here-Now---
The golden rule --do unto others as you would have them doonto you---- has a common variation in many countries and religions. I wondered if there were any other rules with such commonality e.g,
Is there a silver rule also? "Seek fair and just resolution with compassion and empathy for those who violate the laws and moral codes of
humanity or its distinct tribes. "
Perhaps a wooden rule? Forgiveness by God/Universe is instantaneous, forgiveness by humans takes time.
Or the bone rule? Eye for eye and tooth for a tooth. iOnly the human animal practice this concept
Molecular rule? "Share not with your cousin what you would not have them share with you."
Quantum rule? "Know that the uncertainty of mind, being common to all humans, does not neccessitate chaos."
Space-time Rule? ---Pee-Here-Now is rendition of Ram Dass’sBe-Here-Now---
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@Fallaneze
0A} there exists no "first cause" for a;
...1A} eternally existent metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied Space, that embraces the following,
....2A} eternally existent physical/energy --Observe Time /\/\/--- occupied Space Universe aka Uni-V-erse.
Our current info regarding occupied Space can only detect info from 380,000 years after the alledged Big Bang{ what ever that was or was not }.
" U "niverse/" G "od has no reason/purpose for existence.
Only humans attempt to apply reason/purpose to occupied and non-occupied Space Universe.
To seek truth requires ability to access rational, logical common sense. Not all humans have this ability and some to varying degree in differrent days.
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@sadolite
"Sometimes you have to bow to the absurd"
The only absurdity is that you cannot accept what are obvious truths, address facts when clearly presented to, or begin to offer any rational, logical common sense that is of any significant relevance. Go figure and come back wheh you actually have any shred of rational, logical common sense.
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....High frequency heart rate spectral power (associated with parasympathetic activity) and the overall complexity of heart rate dynamics are higher in women than men. These complementary findings indicate the need to account for gender-as well as age-related differences in heart rate dynamics. Whether these gender differences are related to lower cardiovascular disease risk and greater longevity in women requires further study.".
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Banana republic-cans = adulterate immoral adults
Banana Republicans = ignore truth
Banana Republic-cans = still believe idio-ump did not pay-Karen and Stormy just rumors { see Melania Trump }
Banana Republic-cans = long list of lies and multitude of immoral actions.
Banana Republic-cans = Roger Stone, Paul Ryan, etc.......................
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..."Where in the past the Soviet Union touted itself as a state free of racial discrimination and attracted tiny numbers of blacks like Paul Robeson to tour the country and at times live there, Russia's post-Cold War state of "managed democracy" offers no such illusions. Instead, the Russian project under President Vladimir Putin seeks to destabilize American democracy by turning the nation's inner demons against itself."
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Will idio-ump step on Pecker as he steps on others?
Will idio-ump continue to trip over his own pecker issues?
Will we hear from Karen and Stormy again?
Will Melania ---like banana-republic-cans still think these are all rumors?
Why are banana-republic-cans afraid of truth?
Will Pecker squirt more info info in public view?
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Why are DArts banana-republic-cans afraid of truth?
Who is the "Weakest Link" in idio-umps universe?
M Cohen, M Flynn, P. Manfort
Roger Stone?
...."According to multiple reports, the special counsel has been zeroing in on whether Stone or other Donald Trump associates had advance knowledge of Russia’s hacking of Clinton e-mails, which WikiLeaks later published. (Stone denies this.)
.....A peripheral figure in the Stone saga is, of course, Julian Assange, who founded WikiLeaks in 2006, but has spent the last six years holed up in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London, evading authorities in both Sweden and the United States. If Mueller were to make his next move against Stone, he might also be expected to take action against Assange. So it is perhaps unsurprising that Assange’s name also surfaced this week, thanks to a slipup by the Department of Justice."......
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@sadolite
That you consider truth to be "blather" is not suprising to any rational, logical common sense users of DArt.complete irrelevant blather, you talk to hear yourself talk
That you only see "meaningless" and "point-less" disscussion of concepts is not suprising to rational, logical common sense useers of DArt.
The truth exists for those who seek it.
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We need a hybrid pathway into the future that involves spiritual based government that allows for initiative of the individual. Consider the Swiss hybrid approach to advancing the German based Swiss Knife.
Swiss Army Knife
..."1. They were born in Germany, not Switzerland.
The first Swiss Army knives { 1890 }were actually produced in Germany by Wester & Co.
....In order to provide a level of competition and ensure the quality of goods and goals of production, the Swiss government awarded 50 percent of their order contract to Victorinox, and 50 percent to another Swiss cutlery company, Wenger.
...5. Some even come with thermometers. And ballpoint pens. And_____g flashlights.
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>< = dumb-bell effect of growing divide between rich and poor is, well, just plain dumb pathway forward
<> = octahedral fat middle class and least amount or rich and poor is the best{ smart } pathway forward for humanities longest term survival.
All-for-one and One-for-all is the best option moving forward.
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Ego, and its degrees of freedom extend only, as far as what can be related to or referenced to our eternally existent, finite, occupied Space Universe.
Metaphysical-1, ego{ i } does not stand{ exist } alone.
..........SPACE(>*<) i (>*<)SPACE.......
Metaphysical-1, ego{ i } exists in complement to all other existence.
* * = consciousness less complex
* i * = human consciousness ergo more complex
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@3RU7AL
All words have dualistic characteristics/nature of meaning/definitionWhile I agree with you 100%, would you say "time" is properly "physical"?
1} metaphysical-1 concept of time i.e. the mathematical lag rates of consciousness between this event { tick } and the other one { tock }.
...meta{ beyond } Observed Time....
2} physical/energy as Observed Time i.e. reality associated with sine-wave pattern of events /\/\/ via fermions, bosons or any aggregate thereof
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@sadolite
You presume to know something about my life experiences ---beyond what I stated in this thread-- and you do not. That is your ego speaking with -out any evidence for your claims.
We need a hybrid pathway into the future that involves spiritual based government that allows for initiative of the individual. Consider the Swiss hybrid approach to advancing the German based Swiss Knife.
Swiss Army Knife
..."1. They were born in Germany, not Switzerland.
The first Swiss Army knives { 1890 }were actually produced in Germany by Wester & Co.
....In order to provide a level of competition and ensure the quality of goods and goals of production, the Swiss government awarded 50 percent of their order contract to Victorinox, and 50 percent to another Swiss cutlery company, Wenger.
...5. Some even come with thermometers. And ballpoint pens. And_____g flashlights.
The SwissChampXAVT is the largest production Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, and includes over 44 tools that serve over 80 functions. (). s
......Every inch of raw steel is inspected, as well as the content of the metal digitally analyzed for tensile strength. The blades are cut, polished, forged and then ground down and sharpened, and then stamped—where again, they are inspected by real eyes and real hands and real micrometers after every single step of production. Perfectionism is an understatement.
....Luckily, spotting the difference between a real-deal Swiss Army Knife and a fake is simple. The trick is in the spring mechanism and the telltale Swiss Army Knife “snap” of the tools. You can also tell by the classic Victorinox shield, as well as the inscription on the big blade: “Victorinox Swiss Made.” If your knife doesn’t have these qualities, chances are, you got duped.
You just can’t fake quality.
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>< = dumb=bell effect of growing divide between rich and poor is well, just plain dumb pathway forward
<> = octahedral fat middle class and least amount or rich and poor is the best{ smart } pathway forward for humanities longest term survival.
The evolutionary way forward needs to be hybrid of social concerns via a spiritual based governance and capitalism creativity of the individuals initiative.
All-for-one and One-for-all is the best option moving forward.
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Something { occupied space } does not come from nothing { non-occupied space }
Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect ---ex mathematics-- exists in complement to both of the aforementioned above set of eternally existent, complementaries
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(--) = Pi { 3.14 15 92 65 35 89 }
Pi { 3.14 } may contain the most-abstract-connection between 3-fold tetra{4}hedron, 4-fold octa{8}hedron/cube and 5-fold icosa{20}hedron set of 87-73 primary axis spun symmetrys.
Phi = 1.61 8 0 33 98 87 49 89 48 48 20 aka golden ratio
0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1.9 40 66 7 49 0 72 92 95 = Pi divided by phi { 3.14 / 1.618 }
I take note of #7 falling in 7th overall positioning as I do in the following;
31.00 62 7 66 80 2998 = Pi^3{ XYZ aka 3D }
24.35 22 7 27 58 50 06 09 = Pi^4{ XYZ...t.. } /4
...here in latter above, I do a renormalization process of 4D time{ see below Pi^4 } back to being a 3D{ XYZ only } Pi-based numerical value....
97.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 = Pi^4 i.e. Pi to the 4th power includes XYZ 3D considerations.
So, if I remove the Pi based, XYZ{ 3D } value of 31 we are left with only the 4th part the time value aspect of Pi^4 power. see as follows below how we arrive at 66.4 value for time
66.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 = Pi^4 - 31
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0.51 52 8 66 24 20 = 1.618{phi{5}} / 3.14 { Pi }
1.9 41 65 18 25 45 7 22 = Pi{ 3.14 } / phi{ 3.618}
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That still leaves for consideration, 5-fold{ icosahedral } ergo phi { 1.618 golden mean } as it has;
12 potentia,l penta{ '5' }gons and,
15 potentia, phi-based rectangles.
0.51 52 8 66 24 20 = 1.618{phi{5}} / 3.14 { Pi }
1.9 41 65 18 25 45 7 22 = Pi{ 3.14 } / phi{ 3.618}
'5'.0 83 0 96 91 35 0 82 8 = Pi{3.14} * phi{1.618}
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Who is "Weakest Link" or greatest "Rat" in idio-umps kitchen?
..."White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders won't say why Trump bashes 'rat' Michael Cohen yet praises convicted liar Michael Flynn
- White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders hedged when asked why President Donald Trump won't critcize convicted liar Michael Flynn, his first national security advisor who is cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller.
- Trump has called his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen a "liar" and a "rat" for cooperating after Cohen's own crimes.
- Cohen says he facilitated hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump.
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@Greyparrot
Orange man bad alert.
That idio-ump is a "bad man" is not new news to those who have morals and actually paying attention to truth.
Who is the weakest link or rat in the Trumpanzee kitchen. Cohen, Manafort, Mcgann, etc?
Why is your Orange-Trumpanzee/Clones never answer any of the questions posed to you?
Maybe look in the mirror and see this
So are you going to go off on your nazi and Swiss pathways of thought when you see that photo?
Is that photo of the hybrid{ Franken-clone } a trigger for you?
Is that why you cannot answer questions posed to you and respond with "orange man bad" type statements?
I understand, that, if you have no valid information or moral standing that you will tend to speak in short three word sentences.
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@Greyparrot
You are seriously confused Trumpanzee as you are the only person who repeatedly brings Nazis { "pure race" } and the Swiss into the narrative.Go peddle your pure race equality solutions elsewhere you Swiss racist
Trumpanzees fear the mirror-of-truth. Mirror-mirror on the wall, who is the scariest of them all?
Who is the weakest link or rat in the Trumpanzee kitchen. Cohen, Manafort, Mcgann, etc?
Maybe look in the mirror and see this
So are you going to go off on your nazi and Swiss pathways of thought when you see that photo?
Is that photo a trigger for you?
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Who is the weakest link, or the biggest Rat?
Cohen, Flynn, Manfaort, Mcgann, etc?
.."There is a Rat in the kitcahen what am I gonna do"..
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@Greyparrot
Inequality actually isn't a real problem,
Orange-Trumpanzee-Clone denial. Mirror-mirror on the wall who is the scariest of them all?
"Inequality" is the final solution? Reminds of the tv show some years back "The Weakest Link" and saturday night has that redhead on their showing doing a spoof of how she got to be the way she is.
So the we see farther at head of table of poor 1800's family an he is going over all the poor problems and as he is talking the camera pans from across to mother then children and stops with the red head making funny face of sucking in mouth *o* as father says to her we have to do something and you are the Weakest Link!
Diversity is our strength you know.
Familar with strengths of bio-diversity. Universe exists by its diversification of many types of particles into two basic classes.
Those two classes work in complement to each other not in competition to each other.
Trumpanzees only see a narrow-minded set of posible pathways forward and they involve a final solution that lacks empathetic compassion for all humans a single RNA-DNA race.
Trumpanzees what to divide into two competing classes haves and have nots.
Compassionat people who are not blinded by their ego, racism and bigotry know that octahedral <> fat and common middle class is best option for longest term surviability of humanity.
>< dumb-bell isolationing of only two competing standard-of-living classes is just plain dumb as well as lacking compassion, empathy and foresight based on intellectual considerations.
A closed armpit mind of racism and bigotry will rarely ever step outside their narrow-armpit of ego to see truth. Truth scares Trumpanzees more than anything. Idio-ump is perfect of example narccissistic parnoid running his mind in fear most of the time.
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There's a rat in mi kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in mi kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.
When you open your mouth you don't talk, you shout
And you give every body the blame,
But when they catch you up,
They will shut you up
And you got no one to blame
[Chorus]
When you out on the street,
You practice lies and deceipt
And you scandalize my name
But when I catch you up
I'm gonna pull you up
I'm gonna check-out inside your brain
[Chorus]
When yo deh pon the scene,
You make everyone scream
Because they know your so unjust
But when they catch you up
They will kick you up
Because you someone they cannot trust
[Chorus]
You invade my space
Make me feel disgraced
And you just don't give a damn
If I had my way
If I had my say
I'd like to see you hang
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@Greyparrot
The alternative is to force all people to be born with similar DNA and be raised in a singular environment/culture.
Humanity already has a common DNA race. The truth will set us free.
That's a solution humanity does not need to solve inequality.
Typical Trumpanzee short/narrow-minded { armpit } thinking process.
As if standard-of-living inequality is Trumpanzees final solution to humanities vast number of detrimental issues.
"scarier" exists in Trumpanzee mirror of alternative-facts. Mirror-mirro on the wall who is the scariest of them all.
See answer here > https://www.debate.org/Greyparrot/
Ooh, Yum! Yum! as Orange-Parrot-Trumpanzee Clone so much better looking than Stormy Daniels.
The alternative-facts never cease with these Hybrid/Fanken-Trumpanzee-Clones { * w * }
* w * = Hanibal-the-Cannibalwith his face guard on
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@Greyparrot
"Scarier" exists in the mirror-of-truth you ignore morning, day and bedtime. Awaken to truth Trumpanzee.Scarier people than you like Goebbels thought the exact same thing. Go away Egalitarian eugenicist in your unnatural quest to eliminate natural bell-curves.
Lock Trumpanzees Far Away!
Lock Them Away from Moral Civilized Society Today!
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Black hole (X) as cosmic egg (XYX) is my vote for eternally existent SPACE-coding RNA-DNA humans (*X*)
* * = consciousness
(*X*) = human RNA-DNA coding withing black hole and its event horizon surface
\__/ = bosons ---parrallel bisection---
We may say that Universe is based on a 3-fold, cosmic fourness, that has hexagonal associations via 4-fold asymmetry
That still leaves for consideration, 5-fold{ icosahedral } ergo phi { 1.618 golden mean }
Pi { 3.14 } is the most-abstract-connection between 3-fold, 4-fold and 5-fold
1.9 40 66 7 49 0 72 92 95 = phi { 3.14 / 1.618 }
I take note of #7 falling in 7th overall positioning as I do in the following;
31.00 62 7 66 80 2998 = Pi^3{ XYZ aka 3D }
24.35 22 7 27 58 50 06 09 = Pi^4{ XYZ...t.. } /4 { renormalization of time to 3D }
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Then there connection to 66 or as 66.4 as associated with time
66.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 = Pi^4 - 31 { 5-fold primary set of great circles left or right, not both sets of 31 }
31.00 62 7 66 80 2998
0.51 52 8 66 24 20 = 1.618 { phi } / 3.14 { Pi }
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@Swagnarok
*hint hint hint*
Truth Truth Truth
..."The Russians helped Trump by building on his efforts to inflame racial tensions and divide America. Now it's a national security problem that we must fix.
.....White supremacists who’ve tried to brand themselves as the “alt-right” often demonstrate a Trump-like reverence for Putin’s predominantly white, openly anti-LGBT Russia. And that affection is often rewarded by Russia’s vast propaganda efforts."...
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@3RU7AL
"Quanta" = 'bit' as occupied Space informationPlease avoid conflating Quanta with Qualia.
"Qualia" = 'bit' as metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept information
'Bit', as all words and concepts have a duality characteristics
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Black hole (X) as cosmic egg (XYX) is my vote for eternally existent SPACE-coding RNA-DNA humans (*X*)
* * = consciousness
(*X*) = human RNA-DNA coding withing black hole and its event horizon surface
\__/ = bosons ---parrallel bisection---
We may say that Universe is based on a 3-fold, cosmic fourness, that has hexagonal associations via 4-fold asymmetry
That still leaves for consideration, 5-fold{ icosahedral } ergo phi { 1.618 golden mean }
Pi { 3.14 } is the most-abstract-connection between 3-fold, 4-fold and 5-fold
1.9 40 66 7 49 0 72 92 95 = phi { 3.14 / 1.618 }
I take note of #7 falling in 7th overall positioning as I do in the following;
31.00 62 7 66 80 2998 = Pi^3{ XYZ aka 3D }
24.35 22 7 27 58 50 06 09 = Pi^4{ XYZ...t.. } /4 { renormalization of time to 3D }
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Then there connection to 66 or as 66.4 as associated with time
66.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 = Pi^4 - 31 { 5-fold primary set of great circles left or right, not both sets of 31 }
31.00 62 7 66 80 2998
0.51 52 8 66 24 20 = 1.618 { phi } / 3.14 { Pi }
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Or is it both Space ( )( ) and time /\/\/. As the geodesics expand contract then the radii distances from peak inversions (>< )(><) must also expand or contract?What exactly is dialating? Is it Observed Time { /\/\/ } or is the gravitational ( ) space{ attractive/contractive } associated with observed TIme { /\/\ } that is alledged to be expanding via dark energy )( Space { repulsive }
Typically we see that as increase of amplituted when the troughs v and peaks ^ are higher and lower, however, we may need to consider their relative distance to the geodesic curvature.
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@keithprosser
My guess is that something we we take for granted is false, or something that seems to us as illogical or impossible is in fact true. But it will take another Einstein to 'think outside the box' and be right! The 'thinking out of the box' part is easy... it's the 'and be right' part that's the killer!
Einstein went to his grave attempting to unify gravity and quantum physics.
The geodesic positive and negative aspects of a torus ( )( ) unite 180 degree opposites of gravity ( ) and dark energy )(.
The inversions from peak (><)(><) of gravity and dark energy create basis for all sine-wave based quanta { quantum mechanics }.
It is thinking inside the torus ---and any aggreate interfering set thereof--- as much as it is thinking 'outside the cube/box'.
By going outside the cube/box we get a broader set of viewpoints.
The box/cube defined by 6 great circles { tori } of the tetrahedrons 6 edges/chords{ tori }.
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@3RU7AL
Periods of time { finite events } are eternally existent, within a finite SPACE we identify as Universe/God.We have no indication if time itself (or anything else for that matter) is "infinite" or not.
Minimal brainer since late 1800's when a few scientists came to rational, logical common sense conclusion.
Physical/energy --ergo one form of occupied space---, cannot be created, nor destroyed, and that cosmic law/principle is 1st law of thermodynamics.
You may now return to your seat bru7.
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@Greyparrot
Wingnut bad.
Swiss Army Knife
..."1. They were born in Germany, not Switzerland.
The first Swiss Army knives { 1890 }were actually produced in Germany by Wester & Co.
....In order to provide a level of competition and ensure the quality of goods and goals of production, the Swiss government awarded 50 percent of their order contract to Victorinox, and 50 percent to another Swiss cutlery company, Wenger.
...5. Some even come with thermometers. And ballpoint pens. And_____g flashlights.
The SwissChampXAVT is the largest production Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, and includes over 44 tools that serve over 80 functions. (). s
......Every inch of raw steel is inspected, as well as the content of the metal digitally analyzed for tensile strength. The blades are cut, polished, forged and then ground down and sharpened, and then stamped—where again, they are inspected by real eyes and real hands and real micrometers after every single step of production. Perfectionism is an understatement.
....Luckily, spotting the difference between a real-deal Swiss Army Knife and a fake is simple. The trick is in the spring mechanism and the telltale Swiss Army Knife “snap” of the tools. You can also tell by the classic Victorinox shield, as well as the inscription on the big blade: “Victorinox Swiss Made.” If your knife doesn’t have these qualities, chances are, you got duped.
You just can’t fake quality.
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@Greyparrot
You banana-republic-can Trumpanzees ignore truth on a daily basis. Richard Nixon was the worst example to date before idio-ump came along.With Nixon, we had tapes. With Clinton, we had a dress. With Trump, we have...what's the evidence?
"Evidence" is irrelevant to immoral Trumpanzees.
Lock All Trumpanzees Far Away from Moral and Compassionate Civilization!
Lock Trumpanzees Awat Today!
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Idio-umps pecker goes silent/limp after David Peckers spurt of damaging truths about free roaming pecker.
Lock Trumpanzees Away Today!
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@Greyparrot
This pretty much sums the lack mental and emotional depth of all the franken-hybrid, Orange-Parrot-Clones.Who cares about the wealth gap?
>< = dumb-bell divide between rich and poor ---leads to worst cased scenarios for most people---
<> = fat middle class and is closer to the best pathways forward fo rhumanity, All-for-One and One-For-All approach.
195 nations need to unite to solve global problems.
1} private and government directed, computer based scenarios analysis, ---education---,
2} democracy vote{s} once global citizens are sufficiently educated, --free of Russia type false propaganda--
3} emotional courage to do what needs to be done for humanities longest term survival on Earth.
All-for-One and One-for-All is the spiritual and intellectually best pathway forward.
Lock Orange-Parrot-CLones ---ex Flynn-- Away Today!
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@sadolite
My ego has nothing to do with it. Your ignorance of human nature is beyond pale. Your ignorance of what real poverty is is beyond pale. Your ignorance of the entire world around you is beyond pale. You are nothing but a cacophony of personal attacks, ignorance and lip service. You are a dime a dozen.
Both of our egos have everything to do with the future of humanity.
And again, your presume to know something about my life experiences beyond what I stated in this thread, and you do not. That is your ego speaking with any evidence for its claims.
>< = dumb=bell effect of growing divide between rich and poor
<> = octahedral fat middle class and least amount or rich and poor is the best way forward for humanities longer term survival.
The evolutionary way forward needs to be hybrid of social concerns via a spiritual based governance and capitalism creativity of the individuals initiative.
All-for-one and One-for-all is the best option moving forward.
>< = diametrically extreme polarization is likened to EMRadiational charges of pos + and -neg and is ok for specific speccal-case targeting, however, it has to be subject to a great set of considerations as;
( ) = integral unification as one wholistic set.
(><) = greater whole contains the special/local-case, not the other way around.
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Orange-Trumpanzee-Clones = cruel treatment of immigrants to send message to the world, USA does not want you, unless you can clean presidents bedroom at his golf club.
>< = dumb=bell effect of growing divide between rich and poor
<> = octahedral fat middle class and least amount or rich and poor is the best way forward for humanities longer term survival.
The evolutionary way forward needs to be hybrid of social concerns via a spiritual based governance and capitalism creativity of the individuals initiative.
All-for-one and One-for-all is the best option moving forward.
>< = diametrically extreme polarization is likened to EMRadiational charges of pos + and -neg and is ok for specific speccal-case targeting, however, it has to be subject to a great set of considerations as;
( ) = integral unification as one wholistic set.
(><) = greater whole contains the special/local-case, not the other way around.
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@Greyparrot
We already have that in America, land of the free, where relatively few are on welfare and relatively few are billionaires.Or we could be like Brazil and Venezuela where everyone in power controlling the guns is rich, and everyone else is not.
Orange-Parrot-CLone your still in denial-of-obvious truths --closed mind or just plain ignorant?--- for many years now. Please step outside of your narrow-minded armpit and smell the scent of truth regarding USA and global community.
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@secularmerlin
What is seven? Can you explain the term without referencing objects?
"Objects" = occupied space.
7 or any number of abstract concepts exist because occupied space exists.
SPACE......---> occupied convex >(< concave occupied <------....SPACE
Repeat after me "objects" = occupied space.
There, that wasnt so hard, was it.
Occupied space can never be less than than and integral set of;
6 edges/chords /\/\/\ aka event trajectories
4 vertexia events, somethings, crossings, intersections, points,
4 openings
12 surface angles
12 dihedral angles
12 radial angles
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@disgusted
There is absolutely no evidence that the claim "gods exist" has any veracity at all.
Depending on we define God. Universe/God are synonyms.
Ex
He stated that he recited this prayer{?} every night for many years and revisioning of it over the years
..."EVER RETHINKING THE LORD’S PRAYER
July 12, 1979
To be satisfactory to science
all definitions
must be stated
in terms of experience................................................."
Many use the word 'divine' in association with God.
Di = greek for 2 { two }, spanish dos, french du...duet, duo, dual etc
Vine = a : a plant whose stem requires support and which climbs by tendrils or twining or creeps along the ground also : the stem of such a plant
...........b : any of various sprawling herbaceous plants (such as a tomato or potato) that lack specialized adaptations for climbing2 vines may refer to the most complex entities of Universe we know to exist and both have the extraordiary abiliity to access metaphysical-1, mind/lintellect/concepts ex concepts of God, Universe, Toyotas, Triangeles, Unicorns, Concepts, Space, Time etc..
Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts have are not space they are concepts of space ergo they have no mass, no wieght, no spin, not torques no charge, no color etc...
Metaphysical-2 is macro-infinite non-occupied space and falls under identiy " G "od/ " U "niverse and not Universe { occupied SPACE }
Male{ Xy } icon = *Y* externalized testes ---2ndary symbolism--
Female { Xx } icon = \**/ internalized ovaries ---2ndary symbolism--
Place Y inside triangle \/ and we get a birds-eye-view of the minimal 3D structure of Universe, the3-fold tetra{4}hedron \Y/. The largest of these that humans know of were first photographed in 70]s by VIkling{?} spacecraft fly-over Mars.
The are 1 mile high and we know that because of the legnth of the shadow the cast.
Tetrahedron has three sets of two chords/edges + + + that are perpendiculuar{ at 90 degrees } to each other.
at optimum male and female operate { think } at 90 degrees to each other, but of coursed they can operate congruently on same plane.
When on the approximate same plane spinning in same direction all is well, but when on same plane and opposite spins they is most chances of smashing into each other.
Female = both positive shaped gravity{ attraction } and negative shaped dark energy{ repulsion } and are the managers of Observed Time
Male = Observed Time as sine-wave patterning /\/\/ or as ^v^v, and is resultant --birthed from-- inversions from geodesic gravity and geodesic dark energy or so I have speculated for some years now.
Metaphysical-1 God is what humans do when the concieve of divine entity --ex theirself-- outside our eternally existent finite, occupied Space Universe, that looks back in upon the finite Universe as if they were a God holding the whole wide Universe, in their hand.
There is even a song, "got the whole wide Universe in his hands"? I think it was a folk song.
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@keithprosser
Whatever happened at the beginning of time and space was something unlike anything we know about.
There exists no "beginning of time and space" ergo there exists no 'first cause'. There exists a first cause within an eternally exixstent Universe, at any arbitrary point humans choose.
See 1st law of therodynamics that was first discovered in late 1800's.
....ergo occupied SPACE cannot be created nor destroyed i.e. naught is created nor lost in respect to occupied Space.....
..."Cosmologists studying the cosmic microwave background radiation can look through much of the universe back to when it was opaque: a view back to 380,000 years after the Big Bang"...
Whatever occurs with and eternally existent and changing Universe, there are finite limits of what can occur.
Ex the can only exist 5 regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe. End of that particular scenario.
A few can see truth even fewer can acknowledge truth.
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@Logical-Master
Astronauts also loos bone density and that is why we have seen some cosmonauts being carried away from capsule on a stretcher as there bones would not easily support their weight on Earth.
What exactly is dialating? Is it Observed Time { /\/\/ } or is the gravitational ( ) space{ attractive/contractive } associated with observed TIme { /\/\ } that is alledged to be expanding via dark energy )( Space { repulsive }
( ) = postive shaped gravitational ( ) Space --geometry is my speculations but there is much associated info---
)( = negative shaped dark energy Space ---geometry is my speculations but since the opposite of gravity I presume the opposite geometric association.
See torus for contiguous positive ( ) and negative )( geodesic curvature with a flat point of transistion between those two
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@Greyparrot
Swiss nationalism good.
Swiss Army Knife
..."1. They were born in Germany, not Switzerland.
The first Swiss Army knives { 1890 }were actually produced in Germany by Wester & Co.
....In order to provide a level of competition and ensure the quality of goods and goals of production, the Swiss government awarded 50 percent of their order contract to Victorinox, and 50 percent to another Swiss cutlery company, Wenger.
...5. Some even come with thermometers. And ballpoint pens. And_____g flashlights.
The SwissChampXAVT is the largest production Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, and includes over 44 tools that serve over 80 functions. (). s
......Every inch of raw steel is inspected, as well as the content of the metal digitally analyzed for tensile strength. The blades are cut, polished, forged and then ground down and sharpened, and then stamped—where again, they are inspected by real eyes and real hands and real micrometers after every single step of production. Perfectionism is an understatement.
....Luckily, spotting the difference between a real-deal Swiss Army Knife and a fake is simple. The trick is in the spring mechanism and the telltale Swiss Army Knife “snap” of the tools. You can also tell by the classic Victorinox shield, as well as the inscription on the big blade: “Victorinox Swiss Made.” If your knife doesn’t have these qualities, chances are, you got duped.
You just can’t fake quality.
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@FaustianJustice
M Cohen tells truth about Trump and Trump ---the mob boss-- calls Cohen a rat.
Rat speaks truth --confirmed by Pecker-- and idioe-ump { mob boss } goes ballistic.
Republican = adulterate
We need people like illegal immigrant Victorina Morales to be idio-umps chief-of-staff so as to bring some moral integrity to this corrupt, Mafia-like white house of lies and deceit etc.
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