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So I'm not gonna lie. I don't actually have a watcher. I have another dreamer. Yes I lied about this and I don't give two fucks in all honesty. It was revealed that 1 of these 3 can be scum and my results can be manipulated. I wasn't gonna claim 2x dreamer because that was stupid and I was destined to die
so you are claiming you are a JOAT with only one ROLE?
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@Vader
-->@oromagiYou are gonna blindly trust Pie as a town? Seriously?
Yes I am 100% confident you lied about DREAMER, therefore 99% confident you are SCUM.
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Pie & Warren confirmed town, therefore DREAMER lied.
VTL Supadudz
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I still haven't read yesterday. WIll catch up shortly.
I am also on warning that my bc in DP1 violated encryption prohibition so I probably won't be relying on that after all.
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i assume a JOAT: you have 1x tracker, 1x doc, 1x bodyguard wins with TOWN.
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Sorry but I got a last second invite yesterday that has absorbed much of my time. I wrote a long write up last night but I've been waiting for approval from a NEIGHBORIZER who brought me into his neighborhood last night and is inexplicably shy about coming out with this claim or confirming me.
I am an inactive COP.
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@Speedrace
SUPA'S ROLE IS A CONCEPT. CONCEPTS ARE ALLOWED, YES. BUT IT IS AN ECONOMICAL CONCEPT, NOT A TECHNOLOGICAL ONE. LITERALLY EVERY SOURCE EVER CONFIRMS THIS AND WE HAVE YET TO SEE ANYONE PROVIDE A SOURCE SAYING IT IS A TECHNOLOGICAL CONCEPT. STOP CALLING IT SOMETHING IT IS NOT.WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND
I've gotta say I totally buy planned obsolescence as a tech concept. In a field where storage and processing capacity doubles every 18 months, competitors are practically buying new tech before it is invented and trashing servers in excellent condition because they are so much weaker than their competitors. Ross Perot built an entire tech empire based on the notion that the rapid depreciation relative to competition constituted a real depreciation that could be translated into tax write off thereby eliminating tax burdens for companies who own massive datacenters- GM, Oracle, Google, Amazon pay so little tax because they claim rapid obsolescence as write off (and bewildered taxmen allow it).
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Listen Oromagi, if you scum read me in every game, stastically your going to be right some of the time, but odds are much more likely that I am going to be town.
If you paid attention to anybody's claims except your own, you would see that you only fourth likeliest scum in my estimation- there are three people I would lynch before you in any 11 person game. That's not even probably scum at this point.
N. Danielle BiNG ROLECOP (random)
TOWN
N. oromagi
N. BearMan Pubkey Crypt
N. ILikePie5 Photolithography (dp3)
N. Lunatic the CLOUD JOAT (concealed)
SCUM
The fact that you are feeling persecuted is likely a manifestation of your scum guilt. I scum read you all last game because you were scum all last game. I did not scum read once in the game before that although you were quickly killed off. As I said in the last game, I find you hard to read so when you refuse to play as town and refuse to acknowledge how hard your claim is to accept, you naturally drop in the polls. That's not just my reads, that's everybody.
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@BearMan
Can someone brief me on what happened? Y'all are night owls or something
lunatic did his bickering thing. time to kill Intel
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all that argument but I don't think anybody changed their vote
UVC
pie (3/6) - Lunatic, Chris, Supa,
Intel (2/6) - pie, oro,
Lunatic (1/6) - Speed,
warren (1/6) - Bear,
Not voting: warren, skittle, Intel,
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@MisterChris
@oromagiWell, what is your character claim? You're the only one keeping secrets at this point.
you are the first to ask, which demonstrates to me that neither supa or luna ever really thought I was scum in spite of making accusations. Of course, scum already know who is town and who is not and so sometimes forgets to ask for town credentials.
I am virtual reality
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I think town ignores Intel at its peril.
I worry that some players see Intel's half-hearted character claim is just newbie but in recent games Intel has been far more active and querying and a careful of the game and literature about the game.
Let's consider that we started the game skitz's RB claim and general agreement that RB has little to no town utility (but obviously major scum utility) Why would a TOWN mimic go for a negative town utility and so double the harm to town? Scum, of course, would consider RB a prize worth taking risks for.
Intel's mistake was not to confirm that skittlez was made VANILLA by his act, thereby contradicting all of the literature about that ROLE in spite of demonstrating that he had read the literature about the ROLE and made no effort (as any TOWN should) to warn that his ROLE was way off base. Since being confronted on this, Intel's gameplay has gone into deep lurk.
Further, Intel's justification sucks. This is Intel's third try at justification:
which is just an Ai program. That is just what deepfake is, not my entire role lol
More essentially, deep fake is the ability to edit images undetectably- anybody who has not gone to the wiki page to see Amy Adams using Nick Cage's face should do so ASAP
Intel is bottom read and because I suspect some recruitment (TP Cult leader, perhaps) I think Intel is the priority. I can't tell if Luna is scum or not but any player that unapologetically claims second JOAT without explanation, role claim, or justification should expect to be lynched and Luna fervent defense is deeply anti-town. Which makes me think Luna is scum trying to get lynched.
Warren is playing his scum game, which is to check out entirely as opposed to his town game which is to check in late once or twice per DP.
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N. Danielle BiNG ROLECOP (random)
TOWN
N. oromagi
N. BearMan Pubkey Crypt
N. ILikePie5 Photolithography (dp3)
N. Lunatic the CLOUD JOAT (concealed)
SCUM
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@Speedrace
->@oromagiI'm gaming headphones
and your power is activated by ingame circumstances?
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@ILikePie5
-> @oromagii think scum is recruiting and is probably at 3. Mislynch today + NK tonight + successful recruit is endgame.I disagree with this. I don’t think Bullish would put 4 scum in an 11 player game. MYLO/LYLO after one DP just doesn’t make sense imo
I've changed my mind about this. I think it is 2 scum + TP intel who has now recruited skittlez
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RACISM is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.
My observation is that everybody is racist to some degree.
So when the immortal Bob sings:
Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark
Made everything from toy guns that spark
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much is really sacred
"flesh-colored Christ" is meant to evoke a pinky peachy color- what white people call" white." Therein lies the claim of superiority, right? Sure, flesh comes in many mottled variations between brown and pink but only one of those variations, the color most closely associated with northern Europeans' skin gets to be "flesh-colored" exactly and therefore the "correct" color of flesh Consider the domination asserted in that single adjective: flesh-colored.
"but that's not the color of my skin" says all but a small global minority.
"never mind" says the small minority, "we are the ones who decide what colors are called."
Such assertions, such small but profound acts of domination are so pervasive that even Dylan drops a little racism in his most famous critique of Capitalism.
So if Bob is racist and I am racist, I think it is almost impossible not to presume Trump is racist, too.
"Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to"
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@Vader
heads up, RM hacked your acct
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so we know that there are no prior examples of a target getting successfully mimicked without being informed because in every case I can find, the target becomes VANILLA. Intel and Skittlez are either claiming a highly bastard new MIMIC role or they are scum. Actually, based on Intel's tone in reply I don't think he's in a scum chat so I suspect TP Cult Leader + scum
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@skittlez09
i didnt do anything overnight an idk wt bullish said yet
check your PM
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@skittlez09
You STILL haven't reported what you did overnight and what Bullish said
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@BearMan
TOWN needs your character claims now.
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->@oromagiWhose pissed? Not me.
-->@Speedrace
I mean a full role claim
NO. FVCK that. You are retarded ..... Fvck that fvcking noise.
Something about clouds lol thats rich. Cute tactic pretending like you didn't read my claim.
I am the cloud. There;s not really a tangible link from my character to my role, or at least that makes sense to me. Advantages of the cloud include flexibility and easy load balancing
Let's remember Bullish said:
roles ARE related to characters, and there IS a theme split.....
I don't give fake claims to the mafia directly, however they may receive hints and help with fake claims,
You are claiming sufficient INFORMATIONAL roles to make a COP unnecessary that is related to... flexibility?
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@Vader
you are claiming one of these 3 is scum. Oromagi, Pie, or warren.
You sus me and warren but your lynch is on Pie.
The point of DREAMER is also that two of these are TOWN. Being on DREAMER list is more exculpatory than accusatory.
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@Lunatic
You didn't mention a scum read on me til speed got paranoid. If you did scum read me you had ample oppertunity to say so before it became convienent
Everybody has a scum read on you. Just think about it generically.
One player claims JOAT and second player immediately claims JOAT. 99 times out of a hundred, one of these is SCUM.
Who do you believe, the guy who tells you everything about his ROLE or the guy who mumbles something about clouds and then get pissed off when people start asking questions?
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@Vader
right now:
My scum reads are Speed, Oromagi, Pie
6 hrs ago:
Last night I used my Dreamer ability and it said one of the 3 is scum. Oromagi, Pie, or warren.
One of these statements is a lie. Which one?
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@Lunatic
@oromagiOMGUSucking won't help your case. IF you are TOWN you need to act like TOWN. At MYLO there are no unrevealable or indispensible ROLES.It's not omgusing, you jumped at the earliest oppertunity to bandwagon. I guess you are okay with any mislynch at this point huh?
bandwagon is a lie. My VOTE has been on Intel since his claim. Why are you lying?
I'm trying to prevent a mislynch by convincing TOWN not to place ego above TOWN necessity.
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@Vader
-->@oromagiWell to be fair on that point. Mine says protected, not doc'd, but IDK what other roles are protective that have a same functionality as Doctor.
bodyguard, hider, jailkeeper off the top of my head. If Bullish is just inventing new roles as Intel claims then could be anything
but I like the increased detail, that seems more TOWN
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@Lunatic
@oromagiThe fact that 2 JOATs jump out together and say they are perfectly paired but they won't tell us why is Alice in Wonderland scummy.You didn't say anything until speed said his read. Seems oppertunistic. you were also on that dreamer list if I recall... HMMM
OMGUSucking won't help your case. IF you are TOWN you need to act like TOWN. At MYLO there are no unrevealable or indispensible ROLES.
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I have to go walk the dog. I'm feeling PRO mass claim but I'd like to hear from TOWN.
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Why are we even discussing mass claim? We've literally been given a list of 3 people who are potential scum with 1 GUARANTEED to be scum, and we're not pressuring/voting those people? WTF?
DREAMER is a good SCUM claim because it keeps results vague. A 2-power then suicide JOAT also seems super weak against recruiting SCUM. The fact that 2 JOATs jump out together and say they are perfectly paired but they won't tell us why is Alice in Wonderland scummy.
Also, I still don't believe Intel and outing would allow me to at least explain why but I'm not sure town would be convinced.
i think scum is recruiting and is probably at 3. Mislynch today + NK tonight + successful recruit is endgame.
They can't all be scum but there are too many scummy options to sort out.
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i think scum is recruiting and is probably at 3. Mislynch today + NK tonight + successful recruit is endgame.
plus suicidal JOATs, even
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@Speedrace
@oromagiI was also thinking a mass claim would be beneficial
i think scum is recruiting and is probably at 3. Mislynch today + NK tonight + successful recruit is endgame.
I think our best shot may be everybody out everything and hope the lies are a little more obv
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@Lunatic
Dreamer results on him warren and you...
hardly a slam dunk. esp. considering that Warren is claiming VANILLA and out
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@Intelligence_06
idk, what is wrong with a mimic that just let the other person keep the role if town?
but what does your PM say? If Bullish is customizing some ROLE he explained it more than just let the other person keep the role
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@Lunatic
d pie has results on him and hasn't even claimed.
what is the result on pie?
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@Lunatic
@SpeedraceI mean a full role claimNO. FVCK that. You are retarded if you think I will claim further. I am a power role and pie has results on him and hasn't even claimed. You can't get more info from me when pie refuses to claim. Fvck that fvcking noise.
rage is a scum tell
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@Lunatic
what are you talking about I claimed!
no you mumbled some shit about clouds
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@Speedrace
Thoughts on a possible Supa/Luna team?
well Luna certainly seems to be protective of Supa considering they're both claiming JOAT.
Luna doesn't note whether he is also suicidal which would seem to follow if he's such a perfect parallell of Supa.
Luna says he's so powerful that he doubts there's further investigative roles but Supa's roles are both investigative so how are more investigative roles a good complement?
Usually if there's 2 JOATs one is TOWN and one is SCUM. Paralell claims would make sense if Luna is SCUM with like 1x ninja, 1xbus driver- something like that.
If Supa is telling the truth there's a DOC left and if that DOC doesn't save Supa tonight he dies.
I'm tempted to just VTNL and watch if Supa dies.
I'm also tempted to just get everybody to full claim and zap the scummiest.
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@ILikePie5
Who’s going to Roleblock me? Intel can’t and neither can Skitlez.
Why can't Intel and Skittlez roleblock you?
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@ILikePie5
Why would Warren not doing anything absolve him?
I don't know about absolution but there's nothing to indicate that that1 was recruiting DP0. If so, she probably would not have been replaced mid-DP1.
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I believe supas claim and if Lunatic's theory of 1 scum NP0 is correct than Pie must be scum because Warren/that1 was not likely doing anything NP0.
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@Vader
10.03.20 02:34PM
--> @oromagi
Well I could see how that role honestly would work when it comes to my role
What role do you mean and are you claiming your role?
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@BearMan
My theory is that none of them are mafia, and Intel had an honest mistake.
If Intel made an honest mistake then he would have said, oh shit I guess skitz is VANILLA now. Instead, he says that when he mimicked RB, the target kept his power (which is quite OP) and that his PM specifically told him that but he forgot to mention it and he instead posted a wiki entry that contradicts that such an OP is an option but failed to notice (and we know Intel reads his PM and wikis with care, unlike some)
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@BearManSkitz got recruited? So there are 5 scum now? That doesn't make any sense, it would be completely scum-sided for that.Where are you getting 5 from?
I am thinking 3
2 in DP1 + 1 in NP
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@MisterChris
That's true. Do you think it's worth an Intelligence lynch just to confirm/expose the both of them?
Let's pressure him for PM that says "oh BTW your target keeps their power" that's a crazy overpower claim without precedent in 3 different ROLE wikis. Let's also grant him a one night clemency if confirms skittlez is scum.
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@BearMan
Like everyone said, Intel is very scummy. Tbh I don't think skittlez is mafia. I think Intel was doing that for town cred.
the theory skitz was town last DP and then got recruited. RB is a good recruit target and it gives SCUM an RB power to use to confirm Intel's claim if necessary
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@Intelligence_06
what is your PM as specifically as possible without getting yourself ejected
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